@@tactic7774 I own a 8" and a 12" and my 8" sounds great! But for some odd reason, the 12, not so much. Even tho I bought them both brand new, but at different times & diff. sellers via ebay.
So, my friend and I did a much cruder version of this in high school. We wanted a china cymbal, but the school wouldn't provide one, so we took the top cymbal from a pair of shitty brass hi hats and kicked the shit out of it until it sounded really trashy. It actually ended up sounding really good for a makeshift china cymbal haha. Sorry high school music department, but we had to do what we had to do 🤷♂️
@@mrcrabs8787 Don't think they ever even noticed. My friend and I were the only active drummers in the school at the time, so the brass cymbal went from having zero use to being useful, so I'm sure they won't mind haha.
@mrcrabs8787 We used to get up to some shit in our music room. Music teacher was a strange lady though, drummer in our year stole cymbals, tried to just walk out with them half sticking out of his backpack, teacher was like are you bringing those back? He's like "yeah" and never did
@@seancorbett8777 They actually have lots of hammers for cymbal smith work, I used different size carpenter hammers before, but ball is also used a lot on cymbals.
I am Chinese. bronze percussion instruments were first developed by the Chinese and Turks in East Asia. Irregular or crimped, to prevent the resonance of the copper sound delay. Turkic people pursue sound extension, the cymbals made as smooth as possible. But beyond that, the alloy ratio is important. Chinese make cymbal alloy, use 13% to 16% tin since 3000 years ago, is very different from the Turkic cymbals
So my Wuhan crash cymbals aren't even b20 alloy, errr.. but they still sound good for the price! I'm only joking because I'm pretty sure they are b20, very thin crashes and rides and Wuhan makes some of the best China crash out there!
I have an old drum set with one cymbal(besides hi hat) and it’s basically a thick tin sheet, and it has small bends on the edge and is missing the felt to support it 😢
@@hedgeearthridge6807 Yes. As I stated a claw hammer is NOT for shaping metal, so the metal its made from is more brittle. Never shape metal with a claw hammer. Proper tool usage 101.
I get what your trying to say here but I've been in the trades for close to 15 years now and I have never shattered a hammer of any kind and I've smashed pretty much everything you can imagine with a hammer.
It was a straight fold, with part of the cymbal pointing upward. He tried to get Paiste to make a cymbal with the same sound, but they refused. I'd buy it if someone made it.
I think trashy is an actual adjective that drummers use to describe the sound of a cymbal (more specifically a China cymbal). I'm not a drummer so don't quote me on this.
Bro this happened with the first cymbal I got I 5 inch crack down the middle and whenever I hit it it turns into a china, moral of the story, if your new to drumming don’t beat the absolute shit out of the cymbals cause it will break them
Dude, it kinda sounded like a cookie pan, honestly… try drilling some medium to large holes in it…. Just a suggestion… Keep up the good work! *DRUM IS FUM*
@@RasputinPrime75Whether the tone is good or not is pure taste. But I’m certain the amount of fidelity loss is negligible for the purposes of this demonstration. We’ve moved beyond that era a long time ago where the average recording device failed to reproduce even a human voice properly. Ignoring the fact that most modern devices like laptops and phones have decent microphones, the fact remains that a proper sound source will still sound like itself when recorded and played back even on a phone or even something as random as an old Kodak digital camera from 2005…
I do like it. But yaknow. This cat needs some posters. Help cover his wall by sending me money and I’ll tell him. See? Doesn’t even need a bank number. Just a social security
Un mazo de goma te ayudara a que el metal se deforme sin perder espesor, así el sonido no será tan brillante y evitarás que con el tiempo se agriete fácil 😊😊😊
Next time you want to hammer your cymbal and actually have those differences in density… Don’t hammer on a carpet. You can beat the living crap out of any cymbal and it will become a trash crash. I’ve got like 6 of these stupid projects and they always end up in the bag, not on the kit. Build yourself some acoustic baffles, or wide- band absorbers. Waaay more fun.
My drummer used this same type of generic crash for maybe 2 1/2 years of us playing gigs and by the time we had finally gotten some new cymbals, that crash looked like the one in this video. Worst sounding cymbal ever
A better way would have been using a ball pien hammer. Because those are exactly what those are used for and you probably would have been able to find tune the sounds a little bit better. But hey man creativity knows no bounds good job bro
next time grab a butane torch and anneal it before bending, then reheat dunk and swirl in water. will help prevent cracks. they might not be there now but with use it will stress crack.. ask me how i found out.
Drill holes circle ov holes and put a nut and a washer in the top and a washer and a lock nut at the bottom , and leave about 3mm movement gap , sounds orsum
57 seconds drawing dots, 3 seconds sound test
And he could've just used a string and spun it around while attached to the centre
Sounds horrible
@@guitarwhisperer6262 subjective
Sounds good to me
Malograste el platillo. O ese sonido espantoso es el qué buscabas ?
That’s actually not bad
Feels like a homemade Zildjian Trashformer, neat!
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Sounded like one, too!
@@SueDohman which one?
@@tactic7774 I own a 8" and a 12" and my 8" sounds great! But for some odd reason, the 12, not so much. Even tho I bought them both brand new, but at different times & diff. sellers via ebay.
@@SueDohman yep sounded like an 8
Someone show this to DankPods
Over on his channel "The Drum Thing?"
This is probably what all the cymbals he's yeeted at the wall look like now
Ohh it is the same guy
@@KhairiHamed Yes.
He's gonna do it on a $900 cymbal
So, my friend and I did a much cruder version of this in high school. We wanted a china cymbal, but the school wouldn't provide one, so we took the top cymbal from a pair of shitty brass hi hats and kicked the shit out of it until it sounded really trashy. It actually ended up sounding really good for a makeshift china cymbal haha. Sorry high school music department, but we had to do what we had to do 🤷♂️
How were you not banned and made to pay asking for a friend
@@mrcrabs8787 Don't think they ever even noticed. My friend and I were the only active drummers in the school at the time, so the brass cymbal went from having zero use to being useful, so I'm sure they won't mind haha.
@mrcrabs8787
We used to get up to some shit in our music room. Music teacher was a strange lady though, drummer in our year stole cymbals, tried to just walk out with them half sticking out of his backpack, teacher was like are you bringing those back? He's like "yeah" and never did
Nice
@mcrabs8787
Haha asking for a friend.
Someone is always "asking for a friend" 🤣
I joke
I joke 😃
consider a ball peen hammer next time! it will help you much more. a carpenters hammer is meant for driving nails. love cymbal experiments, keep it up
Sheet metal hammer actually would be best
@@seancorbett8777So you're suggesting a metalworking hammer designed for peening?
@@Kaye23X4 no, there's no ball or peen on a sheet metal hammer. I'm a tinsmith. I know what I'm talking about, don't patronize me.
@@seancorbett8777 They actually have lots of hammers for cymbal smith work, I used different size carpenter hammers before, but ball is also used a lot on cymbals.
I’m shocked at the number of positive responses to this video.
Me too. It's mess of good cymbal...
@@love_kolya it's a cheap brass cymbal
its literally a 19 dollar unbranded chinese brass cymbal@@love_kolya
Both sound ass
@P-nk-m-naJude 1:7
That hurt me as a drummer😢
Lots of fun to be had with a hammer and those kid drum set brass cymbals. You can DIY a clap stack while you're at it.
it does sound like trash. good content
🤣🤣
They sell many cymbals with the trash in the description too.. Check out Ozone crash cymbals.
Peening works wonders on cheap flavorless cymbals.
OK I'M DOING THIS
update: I did it and it sounds holy. happy with the results. would recommend
Already sounded like one to begin with...😂
You buy trash cymbals from companies
He makes his own
I steal my neighbor trashcans at 2am
WE ARE NOT THE SAME
I did the same thing with my cymbal! It sounds great!
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How exactly are u supposed to make that cymbal make that crash sound
@@dominickraheem8459did you watch the video
He’s ready to play some metal breakdowns.
I am Chinese. bronze percussion instruments were first developed by the Chinese and Turks in East Asia. Irregular or crimped, to prevent the resonance of the copper sound delay. Turkic people pursue sound extension, the cymbals made as smooth as possible. But beyond that, the alloy ratio is important. Chinese make cymbal alloy, use 13% to 16% tin since 3000 years ago, is very different from the Turkic cymbals
I understand
So my Wuhan crash cymbals aren't even b20 alloy, errr.. but they still sound good for the price! I'm only joking because I'm pretty sure they are b20, very thin crashes and rides and Wuhan makes some of the best China crash out there!
I would make a stack out of that cuz you can just melt it and flatten it then stack on some other cymbals
I have an old drum set with one cymbal(besides hi hat) and it’s basically a thick tin sheet, and it has small bends on the edge and is missing the felt to support it 😢
Cymbal* sorry but writing symbol is offensive. Peace
@@kcChicken123 thank you my autocorrect must have chosen the wrong one :)
Excuse me how is the word "symbol" offensive? I don't get it
@@Cody_Cigar that “symbol” means something that represents something else, but ‘cymbal’ means a cymbal that you use
Couldn’t you basically flip the cymbal over and call it good
I can't complain. Those cymbals are cheap and mostly for display. Go nuts!
I did mine more china sloped from lancecampeu
Saved my old 13 inch hats.. top hat for china and bottom for stack
Jesus. No anvil, no proper hammer no know how, just SMASH
I did this with my crash
unintentionally
For working metal, use a Ball Pean hammer. The claw hammer you used is too brittle. You're lucky you didn't put a sliver into your eyeball.
Engage safety squints
It's a piece of sheet bronze on a carpet, there is absolutely no way that's even an issue. Not any more than it's an issue with mild steel nails
@@hedgeearthridge6807 Yes. As I stated a claw hammer is NOT for shaping metal, so the metal its made from is more brittle. Never shape metal with a claw hammer. Proper tool usage 101.
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I get what your trying to say here but I've been in the trades for close to 15 years now and I have never shattered a hammer of any kind and I've smashed pretty much everything you can imagine with a hammer.
Bill Bruford used a similar contraption (a bent Zilco cymbal I think) on Red by King Crimson.
It was a straight fold, with part of the cymbal pointing upward. He tried to get Paiste to make a cymbal with the same sound, but they refused. I'd buy it if someone made it.
You just ruined a perfectly terrible cymbal!
Normally trashy is a bad thing, not so here. I like it.
I think trashy is an actual adjective that drummers use to describe the sound of a cymbal (more specifically a China cymbal).
I'm not a drummer so don't quote me on this.
Bro this happened with the first cymbal I got I 5 inch crack down the middle and whenever I hit it it turns into a china, moral of the story, if your new to drumming don’t beat the absolute shit out of the cymbals cause it will break them
Pode jogar fora não presta do mesmo modo
Cringe
How to make a shit cymbal sound shit in a different way 👍
Sounded good to me lol
No era más fácil comprar o ahorrar y comprar
It sounded bad enough to start with.
Making a china with pre-distorted edges. lol
Se siente como un Zildjian Transformer casero
You should have given it to me…
Does this work with E-Kit Crash?
It's easier to put some holes in it
Omg ...is a Crapian 😅😅
Sounds better than my china
드러머는 한국이나 서양이나..ㅋ
손재주들은 다 있구나~^^
Bah limite t aurais dû garder la première
As a drummer me: why would you broke your own cymbal😭
@@pingooffical they’re really cheap cymbals, I wanted to experiment with them rather than buy an expensive china cymbal
Sounds better than the most lines of Zildjian 😮
Wasnt even good as a crash lmao
Where’s the sound check??
Sounds like crap
Iughhhhh sounds awful
Quedo como tostada 😂
My trash crash is sweating rn
a beggarly sound
Now, paint it like a rustic blank, put a zildjian logo and sell it on ebay for a thousand dollars. Ur welcome.
Horrible sonido
ASMR sound! :D
Do a ride next
This is something I might try thanks for the idea
Just don’t ruin a good cymbal haha, this was stock cymbal from the Ludwig Backbeat complete kit, it was a naturally undesirable cymbal
@@kietursarcade this is exactly the type of cymbals that I can afford tho
Dude, it kinda sounded like a cookie pan, honestly… try drilling some medium to large holes in it…. Just a suggestion…
Keep up the good work! *DRUM IS FUM*
I had the same thought
It may sound differently if you were actually there. The sound recording in this video may not be that great.
@@RasputinPrime75Whether the tone is good or not is pure taste. But I’m certain the amount of fidelity loss is negligible for the purposes of this demonstration. We’ve moved beyond that era a long time ago where the average recording device failed to reproduce even a human voice properly.
Ignoring the fact that most modern devices like laptops and phones have decent microphones, the fact remains that a proper sound source will still sound like itself when recorded and played back even on a phone or even something as random as an old Kodak digital camera from 2005…
I have one of those and I do love it but it just breaks after using it a few times. Well that's what you get for using low-end cymbals.
Is this how to fuck up a cymbal? Man, I've been looking everywhere for this. Cuz who wants to order the right symbol?
I do like it. But yaknow. This cat needs some posters. Help cover his wall by sending me money and I’ll tell him. See? Doesn’t even need a bank number. Just a social security
I'm not trying to be rude but why ruin a perfectly good cymbal why don't you just buy a 1950s cymbal.
I have a crash cymbol , I accidentally dropped it 2 or 3 times.. now it's sounds like China cymbals 😅🥲
You can get tje same affect by driving over it with a Hyndai. But not a BMW, cause that's not trashy enough.
Un mazo de goma te ayudara a que el metal se deforme sin perder espesor, así el sonido no será tan brillante y evitarás que con el tiempo se agriete fácil 😊😊😊
Why not just put it on a stand and spin it around while the marker touches it spot you want to bend?
I made Something very similar with a crash ride 18" solar and a 13" B8 bottom hat, I have created two cymbals with awesome sound! 🤩
Next time you want to hammer your cymbal and actually have those differences in density…
Don’t hammer on a carpet.
You can beat the living crap out of any cymbal and it will become a trash crash.
I’ve got like 6 of these stupid projects and they always end up in the bag, not on the kit.
Build yourself some acoustic baffles, or wide- band absorbers. Waaay more fun.
Why don’t u buy one. Paiste makes amazing chinas. Signature 20” Thin 👍
Would've been nice to hear a comparison. The no name cymbal probably sounded like that to begin with.
My drummer used this same type of generic crash for maybe 2 1/2 years of us playing gigs and by the time we had finally gotten some new cymbals, that crash looked like the one in this video. Worst sounding cymbal ever
I’m from New Orleans we had a man in the 90s made a whole set out of large chip cans busker In da quarter
Na that’s straight china now fully converted no longer a trash crash😂😂😂😂😂
A better way would have been using a ball pien hammer. Because those are exactly what those are used for and you probably would have been able to find tune the sounds a little bit better. But hey man creativity knows no bounds good job bro
Or what you do is buy a crash cymbal. Play the f word out of it. Crack it. Same results.
Tenía sonido de yunque y quedó todo un chinese...recursivo y a ese plato en estudio se adorna mejor
next time grab a butane torch and anneal it before bending, then reheat dunk and swirl in water. will help prevent cracks. they might not be there now but with use it will stress crack.. ask me how i found out.
Como lo descubrió?
Who didn't made it 10000 times with shitty cymbals only using his own hands? 🤣
At the first of the video, your face and hair are really cute 🤘🤘🤘
Чейные тарелки не дефицыт и не дорогие, зачем портить инструменты то😮
I know I might be alone with this thought but damn I hate seeing people use a claw hammer to do metal work.
That cymbal was already trash to begin with. You ain’t doin dat to a B20 either.
How thick was your crash? I’m trying do the same but I think my crash is too thick, maybe I should use more hammer.
bros foldin that like tin foil
basically is!
Do you think doing that at 2 cymbals and stack them up will make a sound kinda like a trash stack?
Drill holes circle ov holes and put a nut and a washer in the top and a washer and a lock nut at the bottom , and leave about 3mm movement gap , sounds orsum
Hardly any difference, both sound BAD.
St anger china symbal
Works if you just turn the cymbal up side down too🤨
Dude you should drill like, some holes in it and make a holy china type thing lol
Kid, just save your allowance and buy a real China crash.
Dañar un platillo para ese cacharro d sonido...recomienda una tapa de ollaaa..
Nunca hagan eso (aparte de que se ve bien feo, pierde todo el matiz de los armónicos) y se ve muy horrible 🤮🤢 muy mal amigo 😉👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
No it’s good. It sounded shitty beforehand so there’s nothing to lose.
Why would you make your cymbals sound like a trash can?😭
У меня пердечный сриступ от всего этого.....
I shot a cymbal with a gun
Sounds pretty good
The original sound it produced wasn’t bad.
I mean, it sounds more like a splash than china, but cool idea
Wow man awesome dude brilliant buddy!!
Sigue sonando a mierda como al principio.... 🤣🤟🏻