Experiment Kraj vs Maraxus vs Emmara vs Chainer EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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  • @allenlarocque6162
    @allenlarocque6162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    At 13:30, I don't think that Vincent can use inspiring statuary that way - they don't create mana, so can't be 'spent as any colour'....Am I wrong?

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That's correct: he can tap artifacts to cut reduce the colorless cost, but colored mana must be paid with actual mana.

    • @joshualo8226
      @joshualo8226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The dt was cast from stolen strategy which I’m think allows to cast with any coloured mana.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It was from the Stolen Strategy, which specifies that he can spend mana as though it were any color.

    • @CA-zn8hu
      @CA-zn8hu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Improvise doesn't actually generate mana, though so it doesn't work in that way.

    • @NMS127
      @NMS127 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's right, he needed actual mana (of any type) for the black symbol. But he had mana to spare and it didn't change the amount of damage Maraxus did.

  • @darkywaf
    @darkywaf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    A lot of Massacre wurm triggers were missed when the arcbond killed everything

    • @hiddenleaf414
      @hiddenleaf414 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      darkywaf Massacre Wurm is a MVP in my Yarok deck and everyone always thinks the 2 life loss is only triggered from creatures that die to the ETB.

  • @DeltaFiend
    @DeltaFiend 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    It was nice seeing a Maraxus deck, back when I first became interested in MTG I had a magazine that used his card art and always found it super cool looking despite its simple enough design. Just a big buff guy with a mask and a big knife.

    • @Ceracio
      @Ceracio 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It reminds me of an old MTG video game (that was pretty bad tbh) called Battlegrounds, where Maraxus was the final, and thus most powerful, red hero. (For reference, White was Akroma, Green was Multani, Blue was Arcanis, and Black was Ihsan's Shade, of all things)
      I find it funny how Akroma and Arcanis were (and are) quite powerful and famous cards, but the other three (except possibly Multani, because Dominaria) are relatively weak and hardly known. I mean, Ihsan was in M25, but he's not exactly good, though I suppose he might have been when he was first printed.

    • @Tryo707
      @Tryo707 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ceracio By chance did you ever play Shandalar?

    • @Ceracio
      @Ceracio 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tryo707 This is the first I've heard of it. Funny that it was produced by Sid Meier.
      In any case, no, I didn't get the chance to play it, I'm too young really, I was 1 when it came out.

    • @Tryo707
      @Tryo707 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ceracio Well if you like old slower computer games you can find it for free very easily. Or watch someone play on YT.

    • @wigglytuffgaming
      @wigglytuffgaming ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@CeracioI'll clap you any day at Mtg Battlegrounds.

  • @rentonnoah7961
    @rentonnoah7961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Another great video, I never believe Maraxus would get that big but he quickly dominated with that Commander damage. Now, I have something new to build

  • @WIBYTIEDH
    @WIBYTIEDH ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos with unorthodox and unpopular commanders are awesome. There needs to be more of these to this extent

  • @cdmusic850
    @cdmusic850 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love seeing chainer gameplay, he is my favorite deck to play
    Also R.I.P. Gary

  • @AffinityForCommander
    @AffinityForCommander 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Maraxus looks like a really fun deck! I love seeing old school commanders do well against the new legends! 😄

  • @aarong2606
    @aarong2606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Incubation "sage" into inspiring "sanctuary" oof...good game though haha

  • @middknight5202
    @middknight5202 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm a simple man, I see my love Emmara The Honda Accord and I friggin click!!!!

  • @ctheos69
    @ctheos69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That Maraxus was great to watch! Mono red Voltron is pretty underrated, one of my friends has a pretty powerful Ashling Deck and it's scary to play against haha

    • @ScapeWard
      @ScapeWard 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      lea leroy I’m surprised no one decided to get rid of the card that gave his shit improvise

  • @SidneyGutteridge
    @SidneyGutteridge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So cool that you guys are in Montreal! Represent

  • @leudyrodriguez2488
    @leudyrodriguez2488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone else already said this but it bears repeating:
    Effects that last "until this card leaves the field" don't happen when the owner dies. That player and their cards cease to exist from that point on, and their cards don't exist to create triggers that would return something that was exiled (for example)

  • @aidennoir597
    @aidennoir597 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I highly recommend Vorel of the Hull Clade as a Simic +1/+1 counter commander. I've had my deck for a couple months now and it might be my favorite deck. People tend to underestimate Vorel in my experience, so he tends to stick to the board and quickly gets out of hand. Going from a single counter to 60 over a couple turns is not unheard of, and there's nothing better than doing that to a Fathom Mage.

    • @Kazz1187
      @Kazz1187 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aiden Noir I was thinking the exact same thing for my kraj deck!

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Whenever I draw so many lands like Muddstah did, it makes me wish I had Retrace cards in my deck...

  • @TheGeekZeek
    @TheGeekZeek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It seems like Romain missed a lot of triggers from Huatli's emblem.

  • @flarenite1004
    @flarenite1004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:01 Don't worry Jerry I'd love to hear a colorless goblin noise

    • @Lucarioguild7
      @Lucarioguild7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flarenite100 *Jerry, he’s one of the spike feeders

    • @flarenite1004
      @flarenite1004 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lucarioguild7 ahhh ayt thanks for telling ill edit it

  • @WondeR871
    @WondeR871 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear MTG Muddstah. All i want for Christmas this year is a video(or more) of Pir and Toothy,. For some reason, no one who uploades videos include these two brilliant commanders. So please, make my wish come true!
    And thank you for a great show!😉👍

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've got a game recorded with them. I will try to get it done by August.

  • @GrundysGames
    @GrundysGames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Funny that I am in the process of building a Kraj deck :)

    • @lracseroom8286
      @lracseroom8286 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck with it. I wanted to build one since I love Mairsil the Pretender so much but he's just...hard to pull off. Getting the counters onto creatures with actually useful abilities is a feat in itself. And if he get's removed a few times he becomes uncastable. I played Momir Vig to try to fix the creatures with relevant abilities problem and...it's just a Momir Hackball deck now.
      I DID end up making Simic counters though. I crossed it with Landfall synergies and have Tatyova at the helm. It works surprisingly well.

  • @marcusforrest3172
    @marcusforrest3172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t comment often but just gotta say I love your content so much, very well produced!

  • @gysahlgemuse7208
    @gysahlgemuse7208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool, mono red :) Unusual commander. Might be fun build around that.

  • @samb123078
    @samb123078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My very first commander deck was an experiment kjar deck. That thing went infinite in the strangest ways using other people’s creatures. Eventually I just stopped because it wasn’t fun.

  • @rosavanopheusden5211
    @rosavanopheusden5211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was a really fun game, but there were quite a few misplays:
    -Vincent used his Inspiring Statuary for colored mana with Stolen Strategy
    -Vincent could have taken Sam out after casting All is Dust as Haunted Cloak gives haste
    -Sam missed a few Massacre Wurm triggers, though they didn't matter in the end
    -Romain missed the Huatli emblem triggers on his soldier tokens

  • @AlexOvTheAbyss
    @AlexOvTheAbyss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't think Smuggler's Copter was too OP, but back before it was banned, I was playing Rakdos aggro and typically had them dead by turn 3 or 4.

  • @Googleflax
    @Googleflax 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was Romain not drawing off the Huatli emblem trigger? It says "Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control", meaning they don't need to be cast, and it includes tokens, but it seemed like he never drew from it despite creating tokens with Emmara while he had the emblem.

  • @steveebeejodd
    @steveebeejodd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    While we're all nitpicking on stuff, if a player dies and had something of yours in exile, like Oblivion Ring or even a Flickerwisp effect, you don't get it back. Ever. It's their effect that would return it, but they're out of the game so their effects don't exist anymore.

    • @magnusmagicus1977
      @magnusmagicus1977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A bit late reply, but this is not true for all these effects. It is true for Oblivion Ring, which has a separate triggered ability that is not going on the stack because the player left the game, but that is not how Conclave Tribunal works. It will just return the exiled card to the battlefield the same moment it leaves.

  • @DerLhurgoyf
    @DerLhurgoyf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you missed the Massacre Wurm trigger at 8:50. It triggers on any creature dying, not just from its ability.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah dang! That was probably a narration flub on my part. Thanks for pointing it out.

  • @kaszael
    @kaszael 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 6:27, I believe Mystic Snake shouldn't have been able to block Emmara, due to Sidar Kondo. Not sure what that would have changed in the game but Jiang Yanggu should have died there and then :p

  • @Foxribble19
    @Foxribble19 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Incubation druid not sage but awesome content

  • @jerrelmorales4052
    @jerrelmorales4052 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want to see some krav and regna decks 😍😍😍😍

  • @jeanmarais337
    @jeanmarais337 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The video quality was super good. A bit dissapointed in your Kraj build...and how you played it. But nice to see some of the newer cards in it.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, Kraj has performed poorly the last few times I've played him. It could be how I built him, but I'm really not enjoying the list.

  • @REON-pw5ze
    @REON-pw5ze 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:52
    nice weed dice man!

  • @Cyberium
    @Cyberium 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EDH focuses so much on enters-battlefield-effect, they should add more creatures with powerful activation abilities, so KRAJ MAY RULE THE MULTIVERSE.

  • @ivernedit
    @ivernedit 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see a shadow born deck and I love KRAJ, Keep up the good work

  • @simonlebon2406
    @simonlebon2406 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grand Prix Montréal playmat 🔥 Good game!

  • @Rabid_Wombat
    @Rabid_Wombat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My GF says you sound like an A.I but she's sure that you're a "very nice person" 😂

  • @MarvelOfRain
    @MarvelOfRain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The turn where Vince played the Demonic tutor lost him the game. If I see it correctly and the Skullclamp is in fact equipped (in then moves away from the commander later in the turn from some reason) - he starts with a20 damage (7+7 from lands, 1 creature + 4 artifacts + 1 for Skullclamp). If he just used his Lost Vale to tutor (finding the Valakut and playing it if that was what he tutored for) he loses 1 power but gains 1 from Valakut and they uses the remaining 1 mana to play Romain's clamp leaving him with exactly 21 points of Commander damage.
    With Sam dead, he could have easily killed the other two players.
    Of course, it is much easier to see that for me without 3 people looking at me (I am also not sure what he had in his hand and what he tutored for, that might change the play).
    Maraxus seems like really cool and hard to play well commander.

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Valakut enters the battlefield tapped, so it adds nothing to Maraxus's power.

    • @MarvelOfRain
      @MarvelOfRain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkEinherjar You forgot about Blackblade. It adds 1. A mountain or another untapped land would add 2 and it would be another way to win.

  • @chortlesinthecorner
    @chortlesinthecorner 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not Adapt Kraj before Incubation Druid was knocked out? I know you can't adapt once Inc Druid has a counter on it but does the ability actually go away or is it stopped?

  • @urawhat
    @urawhat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So close to 50k subs 😮😮😮😎
    nice game play 😁😁😁

  • @metalvisionsongcontest7055
    @metalvisionsongcontest7055 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm pretty sure Adam from Friday Nights would love Maraxus.
    Why? "Because he is a big burly boy!" 😂

  • @kroseu762
    @kroseu762 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    couldnt romain have killed maraxus the turn before he himself died by tapping it down with glare of subdual?

  • @TheBalogna7
    @TheBalogna7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I love Chainer as a commander!

  • @kleedrac
    @kleedrac 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I reworked my Ex Kraj deck as well - it's now Pir/Toothy which I find far more fun :)

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I may do the same. Either that or build one of the new C19 commanders when they drop.

    • @hafusan
      @hafusan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTGMuddstah Toothy is a blast and Pir a very good boy. I can recommend giving them a try!

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Inspiring Statuary was the card that kept Vince in the game.

    • @Baektas
      @Baektas 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its so good in equipment decks, especially mono red. Such good ramp.

  • @Cole444Train
    @Cole444Train 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay, Romain looted soooo many times with the Smuggler’s Kopter and still didn’t hit a land. I had to check the deck list, cause that’s some seemingly crazy bad luck.
    Only 34 lands. That explains it. Also I guess the deck is pretty low to the ground, so it makes sense.

  • @K3rm1tFr0g
    @K3rm1tFr0g 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually built maraxus as my second edh deck. It was fun while it lasted but got blown out soooo often.

    • @Baektas
      @Baektas 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could try changing it to a Valduk deck. I currently have one, and the cards that vince played reminded me of it.

  • @romaincegoni5109
    @romaincegoni5109 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always fun to play with you Muddstah! It was an incredible game with that Maraxus threatening our life total ! Ahah keep up the great work and content!

    • @gallowglass3339
      @gallowglass3339 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Romain, what is your playmat name and where can I get it (I'm a new player and love it )?

  • @BangThatGong
    @BangThatGong 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That maraxus deck was hilarious

  • @mikes252
    @mikes252 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have an Emmara deck, won last night swinging x20 25/25 lifelinks at my opponents

  • @bestregards9672
    @bestregards9672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the position of vinces deck/graveyard triggers me

  • @lancer4224130
    @lancer4224130 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You could say Mudstah's deck Kraj 'd and burned.....

  • @itschachie
    @itschachie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think the Cloak would be returned to the field when Romain dies. Conclave Tribunal does leave the field, but it can't put the delayed trigger onto the stack that would return the Cloak.
    EDIT: I'm wrong, see below!

    • @jjjjjjj238
      @jjjjjjj238 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is correct. I was looking for this before I said it myself.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh! Good to know. We weren't sure on the ruling and just kind of ran with that.

    • @dndmasterJDY
      @dndmasterJDY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually that is incorrect. With effects like Oblivion Ring that trigger on leaving the battlefield, the trigger wouldn't go off, but because of the newer wording, the effect keeping the Cloak in exile would cease to exist when Romain dies, and it would return to the field.

    • @jjjjjjj238
      @jjjjjjj238 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dndmasterJDY After researching, I am wrong and you are indeed correct. It is not on the official rulings for this particular card, but I found one with similar effect on Angel of Sanctions "In a multiplayer game, if Angel of Sanctions’s owner leaves the game, the exiled card will return to the battlefield. Because the one-shot effect that returns the card isn’t an ability that goes on the stack, it won’t cease to exist along with the leaving player’s spells and abilities on the stack."
      To paraphrase Einstein: "Learning only ceases with death."

    • @itschachie
      @itschachie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dndmasterJDY Good to know! It's definitely a tricky situation.

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    massacre wurm making great work. cool game

  • @ThaChedda
    @ThaChedda 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:10 game starts

  • @MultiTaz333
    @MultiTaz333 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kraj is a great commander of used correctly

  • @SorcerySpeedConcede
    @SorcerySpeedConcede 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My boi chainer!!! Sam, keep it up!

  • @plain6677
    @plain6677 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great game!

  • @dillpickle694
    @dillpickle694 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Am I the only one who knows there’s a Jiang Yanngu planeswalker that isnt from war of the spark

  • @arbopajur1888
    @arbopajur1888 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    experiment kraj nice

  • @garrett1433
    @garrett1433 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glare might be a wanna be Opposition, but it's still one hell of an enchantment

  • @tristownsproductions7472
    @tristownsproductions7472 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 0/2 token can't crew the copter.

  • @Tryo707
    @Tryo707 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Valakut" ... that was odd, and funny.

  • @joshharper9487
    @joshharper9487 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Emmara the queen of crewing and the husband is King Macar the king of crewing

  • @Gamerdad2008
    @Gamerdad2008 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was gonna be mad if the Chainer player lost to creature decks

  • @lazaruscomplexofficial
    @lazaruscomplexofficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly maraxus surprised me big time

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too! But nowadays when Vincent pulls out a deck with a weird commander, I know I'm in for a treat!

    • @lazaruscomplexofficial
      @lazaruscomplexofficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTGMuddstah I hope i can set something up with you sometime you are in Jersey again myself and my buddy Dan have some fun decks

  • @thijsvisscher7231
    @thijsvisscher7231 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The plant tokens can't crew the copter, oopsie! Edit: and I need to check the entire boardstate, oopsie!

    • @nohwonatol8248
      @nohwonatol8248 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heliods spear gives them +1/+1

    • @thijsvisscher7231
      @thijsvisscher7231 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nohwonatol8248 Now that, is super relevant! Totally missed that, thanks.

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was about to say the same when I first saw it, but then I remembered that Heliod's Spear gave them +1/+1.

  • @kennethtristan1644
    @kennethtristan1644 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beefy boi

  • @BadGamers2024
    @BadGamers2024 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer Lu Bu over Maraxus

  • @mikegibb5082
    @mikegibb5082 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    #teamjerry

  • @dannyboy5531
    @dannyboy5531 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Over 10$/ 10$ or more... why both?!?

  • @joshuakloppers5024
    @joshuakloppers5024 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    #stopthejerryhate

  • @guiga985
    @guiga985 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heeey :D

  • @luigi2.021
    @luigi2.021 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    KrAj Is BaCk

  • @julianhugen8760
    @julianhugen8760 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your voice appear that you are kinda depressed. What's wrong dude?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you must be hearing the lingering elements of my cold. I'm all good, other than that, my guy!

    • @julianhugen8760
      @julianhugen8760 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTGMuddstah Good to know.
      Hey, changing the subject. I notice that in your videos is not very clear when triggers happens. The guys of Playing with Power use a simple flash image of the card is triggering in they videos. Check it out, it can be a nice improve in your videos too.

  • @BAAWAKnight
    @BAAWAKnight 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't like infect, but likes voltron.......

  • @Serberus08
    @Serberus08 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boring Chainer loop, Boo

  • @strahlungsopfer
    @strahlungsopfer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just call him Venison already if you can't pronounce his name lol. I'm sorry, I probably should eat something against my grumpyness

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't follow?

    • @kaszael
      @kaszael 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      he was pronouncing "Vincent" correctly (the french way)