Completely agree with the reference to the 'EP3'. I owned an EP3, from 2013-2017, buying a 197 in 2021. I am a 'Honda fanboy' and once I drove the 197, one of my first thoughts was, "It is like Renault waited to release this at the end of the EP3 run" As it really is a better handling car... OK the gearboxes are worrying, but get them rebuilt and treat them gently.... they are amazing! Just wish I had the funds to throw a K20 in mine, ha!
I bought mine (east coast Australia in 2016) with 82,000 km. Still my daily driver, now with 122,000. Apart from crank angle sensor and washer pump, nothing has broken. Remarkable, and what a hoot to drive. Lovely gearbox. Currently running Pilot Sport 6 rubber. Very sticky and simply superb brakes. Uses 7.5 l/100 unless I'm really on it. Only complaint, noisy at high speed (compared to my last car, a V6 Bora 4-motion VW).
I have Clio 3 RS color Nimbus, year 2007, all original. Zero Accidents, all original renault maintenance book, never general mechanics. Very good condition and painting and also inside and outside very good condition. it has little KM. Classic. That's fine with me.
Got one which looks the exact same almost 3 months ago, only difference is that I have leather and a sunroof lol. Got it for £3.7k with 75k on the clock and is a cracking car. Do not want to ever get rid of it, even when I eventually get another car.
Good video mate.. Recently bought a 2007 Renault clio 197 and handles amazingly well and so much fun to drive. Few gentle upgrades helps the performance more....Great car all round.
@@tonyedwards892 my guess mate would be an average of 30mpg . Probably had 33mpg but mid 20s more likely as it's hard not to drive it hard especially on them B roads.
It will be a long while before the 197/200 's will be hit by the Nostalgia wave and price rise though. The 172/182's on their way, the oldest millenials are in ther 40s now, the right age to have had a 172/182 in the early 2000's. Let's hope that they have the same disposable income as the Gen x'ers did and checking the FB groups, probably like a third of the cars sold and traded around are track builds, I see like a post every week of one being broke for parts. So now's a good time to grab a 172/182 and keep them for an investment.
Id spent the extra on either getting a sorted 182 or a 200. This is coming from a 182 owner. Both great options either of them but slightly different to warrent the price.
Bonne voiture pourquoi personne veux y croire mince Renault peut Peugeot sport on fait leur preuve moi j aime bien les anglaise mais il faut Led coursifier si on veux aller aux max pas forcément peugeot ou Renault et fiât abarth après y a de très bonne ford escort 2000 ❤😮
La v6 clios n est pas finit juste 240 ch alors qu il lui en faut 400 juste 2 turbo le système 4 roues motrice et vous avait le clios parfait faut juste le terminer ce v6 et robuste et n attend que c est deux turbo comme sur le safrane baccara v6 bie turbo un avion de chasse en limousine frenchy essayer ça vous venait ❤
The not fit for purpose gearbox will stop 197/200 from rising value which is the major problem with this car. Every single one of them has a dodgy ticking time bomb gearbox in them. Megane 230 is the one to buy. Similar size and price and skins the arse off a 197. Got all the little Renault niggles yeah but a much better car. 197/200 is a bad buy for anybody fact. Anybody who says mine is ok and all that it’s not they all have the same broken gearbox. I traded in a 2 year old immaculate 182 full fat for a 197 and after about 6 months regretted it. Terrible car be warned. Ps They aren’t fast either when diesel Golfs are skinning it you realise that.
Conter pas sur nous pour mettre du cuir partout déjà parce que c est une voiture de sport et la peaux des animaux n à jamais était notre truc et si c était de la peaux humaines tu roulerai dedans 😢
you are still saying hello guys when it should be poeple my wife is annoyed at you saying that when she is female SO PLEASE CAN YOU REFRAIN SAYING GUYS .
You are right. The MK3 197/200 Clios are the last proper raw naturally aspirated Renault Sports
Completely agree with the reference to the 'EP3'.
I owned an EP3, from 2013-2017, buying a 197 in 2021.
I am a 'Honda fanboy' and once I drove the 197, one of my first thoughts was, "It is like Renault waited to release this at the end of the EP3 run"
As it really is a better handling car...
OK the gearboxes are worrying, but get them rebuilt and treat them gently.... they are amazing!
Just wish I had the funds to throw a K20 in mine, ha!
Excellent, mature review without the constant attempt to be a comic. Nice one
YES! Any other colour than black though 😆 Liquid yellow, that pearlescent red or that metallic blue 😁 🥰
I bought mine (east coast Australia in 2016) with 82,000 km. Still my daily driver, now with 122,000. Apart from crank angle sensor and washer pump, nothing has broken. Remarkable, and what a hoot to drive. Lovely gearbox. Currently running Pilot Sport 6 rubber. Very sticky and simply superb brakes. Uses 7.5 l/100 unless I'm really on it. Only complaint, noisy at high speed (compared to my last car, a V6 Bora 4-motion VW).
I am living in Adelaide and planning to get one, may I ask how much did you buy it?
Great video and you are spot on Renault 5 GT Turbos, Clio Williams have all started making big money.
I have Clio 3 RS color Nimbus, year 2007, all original. Zero Accidents, all original renault maintenance book, never general mechanics. Very good condition and painting and also inside and outside very good condition. it has little KM. Classic. That's fine with me.
Miss my 197 so much maybe its time to get one again. was an absolute gas guzzler but so much fun.
I've got the same one, all stock, great condition 😎
Got one which looks the exact same almost 3 months ago, only difference is that I have leather and a sunroof lol. Got it for £3.7k with 75k on the clock and is a cracking car. Do not want to ever get rid of it, even when I eventually get another car.
Wow, sunroof. They were not an option in Australia.
Good video mate..
Recently bought a 2007 Renault clio
197 and handles amazingly well and so much fun to drive.
Few gentle upgrades helps the performance more....Great car all round.
Hi whats the average mpg I'm tempted to get one next month regards Tony
@@tonyedwards892 my guess mate would be an average of 30mpg .
Probably had 33mpg but mid 20s more likely as it's hard not to drive it hard especially on them B roads.
I’m glad to see R27 prices creeping up already
I have a standard mk3 1.2 clio and want one of these to go with it next
All pre 2010 hot hatches are defo shooting up in price 😊 have you still got your fn2 track car ?
Yeah, we still have it. I need to book a track day really!
Thanks for your channel watch everything you do
Thanks Richard!
Nice review! I love these agile, fast Renault Sports.
197 values haven't gone crazy because of the bad reputation of the gearbox. Made of chocolate.
Fair, it will make the survivors more desirable though!
If I had a driveway or garage I would be batting your door down for that one!
Great video nicely looking car
I may have missed it but love the videos, just wish it would give us a rough figure of the mpg your getting from the vehicles in your experiences
Good point, although I don’t usually drive them much so hard to get my own figures
It will be a long while before the 197/200 's will be hit by the Nostalgia wave and price rise though. The 172/182's on their way, the oldest millenials are in ther 40s now, the right age to have had a 172/182 in the early 2000's. Let's hope that they have the same disposable income as the Gen x'ers did and checking the FB groups, probably like a third of the cars sold and traded around are track builds, I see like a post every week of one being broke for parts. So now's a good time to grab a 172/182 and keep them for an investment.
How it compares in your opinion to a Honda type r ep3?
Who would've thought a french car could be called more refined and precise than a Japanese car
I love it!! ❤ is it on your forecourt now?? Great content as always
Sure is 👍
@@ShiftingMetal I’ve sent an enquiry for a valuation on my insignia 👍🏻
Id spent the extra on either getting a sorted 182 or a 200. This is coming from a 182 owner. Both great options either of them but slightly different to warrent the price.
@@Twongz_does_anythingwhat is your mpg In the 197/200 I was averaging like 30mpg in my old mapped 182 and I loved it rear seats remover mine you
Great car, ❤ Great video,
Interesting Tattoo's.. Do you have a Slavic Grandmother by any chance?
No but certainly further down the line somewhere. I just like some of the old mythology 👍
Bonne voiture pourquoi personne veux y croire mince Renault peut
Peugeot sport on fait leur preuve moi j aime bien les anglaise mais il faut Led coursifier si on veux aller aux max pas forcément peugeot ou Renault et fiât abarth après y a de très bonne ford escort 2000 ❤😮
La v6 clios n est pas finit juste 240 ch alors qu il lui en faut 400 juste 2 turbo le système 4 roues motrice et vous avait le clios parfait faut juste le terminer ce v6 et robuste et n attend que c est deux turbo comme sur le safrane baccara v6 bie turbo un avion de chasse en limousine frenchy essayer ça vous venait ❤
The not fit for purpose gearbox will stop 197/200 from rising value which is the major problem with this car.
Every single one of them has a dodgy ticking time bomb gearbox in them.
Megane 230 is the one to buy.
Similar size and price and skins the arse off a 197.
Got all the little Renault niggles yeah but a much better car.
197/200 is a bad buy for anybody fact.
Anybody who says mine is ok and all that it’s not they all have the same broken gearbox.
I traded in a 2 year old immaculate 182 full fat for a 197 and after about 6 months regretted it.
Terrible car be warned.
Ps
They aren’t fast either when diesel Golfs are skinning it you realise that.
Ta 197 passe la à 200 ch et tu aura une vraie gordini ❤ 🙏🏼😟🤲🇨🇵👉🏻☝️
Conter pas sur nous pour mettre du cuir partout déjà parce que c est une voiture de sport et la peaux des animaux n à jamais était notre truc et si c était de la peaux humaines tu roulerai dedans 😢
you are still saying hello guys when it should be poeple my wife is annoyed at you saying that when she is female SO PLEASE CAN YOU REFRAIN SAYING GUYS .