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  • @hansolo8080
    @hansolo8080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    I would love to see an episode (maybe Extra turns?) where you play these Precons that were upgraded for 25 bucks.

    • @digitalstatictv
      @digitalstatictv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes!

    • @angelowilliams5239
      @angelowilliams5239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hell yes!!

    • @rodgerlang884
      @rodgerlang884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s a phenomenal idea

    • @brawlerike1
      @brawlerike1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This would be a lot of fun actually!!

    • @twurtle4136
      @twurtle4136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      YESSS I AGREE. Especially after having just purchased the cards to upgrade my deck

  • @unstable7505
    @unstable7505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Cards to add:
    Cosmos Charger
    Glorious Protector
    Depart The Realm
    Doomskar
    Alrund's Epiphany
    Shepherd of the Cosmos
    Starnheim Unleashed
    Mystic Reflection
    Amphin Mutineer
    Archaeomancer
    Peregrine Drake
    Lavinia of the Tenth
    Eldrazi Displacer
    Cosima, God of the Voyage
    Reconnaissance Mission
    Skullclamp
    Ephara, God of the Polis
    (Btw some of the cards on there are extra so you do not have to add them. These are all recommendations.)
    Cards to take out:
    Surtland Elementalist
    Day of the Dragons
    Storm Herd
    Evangel of Heliod
    Iron Verdict
    Replicating Ring
    Arcane Artisan
    Mist Raven
    Migratory Route
    (I only found nine if you see the tenth one tell me in the comments and I will change it)
    :D

    • @hansolo8080
      @hansolo8080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same, I was wondering when they didn't mention the last card.

    • @toddkrause197
      @toddkrause197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Thank for verifying they only mention 9. I thought I was going crazy. I would cut or kor cartographer.

    • @WillisPtheone
      @WillisPtheone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@toddkrause197 Or Meteor Golem its 7 Mana for a removal spell and Amphin Mutineer fills in better. Cloudgoat Ranger is a easy cut. It only makes 1/1 Kithkin Soldiers and takes too many resources to get any real use out of it. Even better cut all three add in some of the other suggestions and/or Path to Exile or any other instant speed white exile or blue bounce / counter spells.

    • @benfriesen3171
      @benfriesen3171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think Josh meant to take out Cloudgoat Ranger, cuz that’s more non-flying tokens that don’t do a ton (and he mentioned taking out more Giants)

    • @MathieuHouel
      @MathieuHouel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the tenth card to take out is Hero of Bretagard (that's what I see whith Day of the Dragons when I look at the miniature of the video) ^^ They were not really excited when they talked about it in the new cards section.

  • @TheBigDirty716
    @TheBigDirty716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    This deck unaltered is actually really fun for someone like me who never played azorious before. Excited to see what you guys did here.

    • @WillisPtheone
      @WillisPtheone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai Ya Vega will be the better commander down the line it creates a awesome platform for a bunch of different options. Rebound Flashback Jumpstart Retrace Cipher. There are some finally

  • @bartobär1991
    @bartobär1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Jimmy just ignored the draw part of the Ethereal Valkyrie. That thing is pure card advantage with an included mana reduction. It doesn't make your hand smaller.

    • @EnemyToad
      @EnemyToad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      thank you for this. the cantrip is huge, AND it hits every attack, AND you can blink it, AND you get spirit tokens if Ranar is on the board? one of the best top ends you could play in this deck IMO

    • @Soulus101
      @Soulus101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Came to say this. When I played this it dominated.

    • @ehyoflake8315
      @ehyoflake8315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah very clearly missed the part of the card that says 'draw a card'.
      The thing is is a house, especially if you're playing it in this deck.

    • @faerie7dragon
      @faerie7dragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He likely saw it costs 6 mana and doesn't win the game then assumed it was bad.

    • @TheUnderJaker
      @TheUnderJaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think they totally read this deck wrong. For telling itself with the commander is a value engine. What I do not like is the token creation on Renar. It makes you think the deck could go towards tokens. Clunks up the deck IMO

  • @dtopa7524
    @dtopa7524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    You don't "run out" of cards with Ethereal Valkyrie, it cantrips on ETB and attack into exile. I've found this card to be a value train in my games since most players are as oblivious to it's effects as you guys are and tend to let it stick around for several rounds.

    • @0ViciousV0
      @0ViciousV0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yea I was thinking the same thing it draws so how can you run out of cards if its helping you draw and foretell

    • @thiefofhyrule8000
      @thiefofhyrule8000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Shh... let's just keep it between us. Lol.

    • @rhainex5952
      @rhainex5952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ive fortelled so many cards because of this card. Its an amazing card especially flickering it with thassa and conjurers closet.

    • @dariocampanella7992
      @dariocampanella7992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rhainex5952 i agree is an amazing card. i tried on my first play of the deck, I was drawing cards and ramping at the same time

    • @augustfilbert6305
      @augustfilbert6305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's easily the most powerful card in the deck, it's a one-card engine!

  • @ptp1999
    @ptp1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    'Rolling over in his grave'. You know Andrew Lloyd-Webber is still alive right?

    • @jonathonleclare9268
      @jonathonleclare9268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is actually something that strikes me so often as weird. I know he's alive, but these musicals feel like they were written in the 1800's. Dissonance, right!

    • @SarahStudt
      @SarahStudt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I thought the same thing 😂 funny enough I just watch Phantom of the opera last week.

    • @Kallistosprom
      @Kallistosprom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Still writing too!

    • @brnery
      @brnery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I vote that Josh and Jimmy send a public apology to him on TikTok.

    • @ridgetownsend1010
      @ridgetownsend1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When I was in high school (2008 approx), I went into my local record store and saw a poster for a Bob Dylan concert a few months from then in Indianapolis. When the store owner confirmed that Bob Dylan was, in fact, not dead, I felt like Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber when he finds out we landed on the moon.

  • @MetatronTrismegistus
    @MetatronTrismegistus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    @1:05:00 Little do Jimmy and Josh know the lurking chill emanating behind the Replicating Ring and its eight copies.
    "And nine, nine rings were gifted to the race of men, who, above all else, desire power."

  • @tygy3088
    @tygy3088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    You're going to get copyright striked with accurate renditions like that

    • @pixelbomb97
      @pixelbomb97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They did arguably better then Emmy Rossum at least.

  • @paizleyramsey1776
    @paizleyramsey1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    inb4 next episode when Josh and Jimmy apologize for saying Andrew Loyd Webber is dead 🤣

    • @Cyberbobafett321
      @Cyberbobafett321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was going to say, im pretty sure he is very much alive lol

  • @sulakkalus
    @sulakkalus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ethereal Valkyrie brings the cost of eldrazi down to a reasonable value and adds more of the element of surprise to your foretell pile. If you're looking for dollar rare upgrades, I highly recommend adding Mystifying Maze and Reveillark. Azor the Lawbringer is a great control mechanism as well, preventing your opponents from casting a lot of spells, drawing you cards, and dealing good combat damage. Clever Impersonator will also always be the best permanent on the battlefield with your ability to blink it over and over. Imagine blinking it into various Planeswalkers and getting to use all of their abilities each turn. I'm also surprised you said nothing about karmic guide or deadeye navigator, which are more expensive but below $10 and help give the deck resiliency against board wipes.

  • @marvin5342
    @marvin5342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amphin mutaneer also gives you the option to exile a spirit and get another spirit as well as a 4/3

    • @dariocampanella7992
      @dariocampanella7992 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am not sure if you want to trade a flyer for a grounded 4/3 but still an option

    • @marvin5342
      @marvin5342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dariocampanella7992 you are not trading since exiling the token gives you a new Flyer you are basically paying 4 for a 3/3 and a 4/3 if you blink the mutaneer you can make 4/3s with the etb without losing flyers

  • @santuli_91
    @santuli_91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually turned my Ephara flash/flicker deck into this, so I was happy to see how many suggestions for the deck overlapped with what I was already planning to do. One janky card I really enjoyed in Ephara is Saltskitter though. Free exile and etb triggers (for cards like Ephara and Cathar’s Crusade) basically guaranteed every turn.

    • @Flailkerrin
      @Flailkerrin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      5 months late as I only picked this deck up now, but thanks for the mention of Saltskitter! Never heard of it afore, but it's such a curious wee creature that absolutely sings in this deck! One of my favourite aspects of Commander is when somebody drops a real niche card from 14 years ago that nobody recognises!

  • @calenhoover1124
    @calenhoover1124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You guys didnt even notice the "draw a card" part of Ethereal Valkyrie. That card can get nuts, also the ability to just make boardwipes cheaper is insane.

  • @vice1013
    @vice1013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Azor's gateway, a chef kiss of an addition.

  • @nathantawfik7100
    @nathantawfik7100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I might be wrong here, so fact check me, but I think with Archaeomancer and peregrine drake on the battlefield you can get infinite mana with ghostly flicker, which is already in the precon. Pay 3 to flicker both, get it back in hand and 5 mana untapped. Float it all and spend 3 to do it again, infinite mana.

  • @jamesbv4862
    @jamesbv4862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If foretell becomes a commen mechanic like flashback then this commander will become amazing in the future

    • @KarmicMishap
      @KarmicMishap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope it does. I've really enjoyed how foretell smooths out early turns. It would be nice if they made a foretell card that searches out a couple lands!

    • @jasonmalin1010
      @jasonmalin1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And ethereal Valkyrie will be a powerhouse

  • @PromoCodeBalls
    @PromoCodeBalls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was my very first magic deck, I got it on Saturday. I absolutely love this deck and I’m loving this game

    • @titanium0002
      @titanium0002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is indeed fun even though it can get pricey at some times. also how the foretell deck going for you?

  • @rhainex5952
    @rhainex5952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Definitely underrated ethereal Valkyrie here. Ive done some work with this card and its an engine on its own. I feel like josh and jimmy did not give enough a credit.

  • @jokerES2
    @jokerES2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Rest In Peace gets really crazy with this deck.

    • @lukeisstrange1533
      @lukeisstrange1533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Christian Kelly
      "When Rest in Peace enters the battlefield, exile all cards from all graveyards.
      If a card or token would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead."
      So Ranar will trigger.

    • @_GandalfTheGrey_
      @_GandalfTheGrey_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lukeisstrange1533 so does that mean that for each card exiled, Ranar creates a +1+1 creature with flying? Or just a single creature every turn when a new card is exiled? Basically I’m wondering if this triggers as a group of cards are exiled or rather on a “per exiled card” basis?

    • @lukeisstrange1533
      @lukeisstrange1533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_GandalfTheGrey_ It triggers only once for each group of exiled cards bc ranar says "one or more"
      So if someone boardwipes while you have ranar and rip out you only get 1 flier
      But the cool thing is, that with rip and ranar out you could sac a token infinite times (each instance of saccing triggers ranar seperatly) bc after saccing the token, it instead gets exiled which triggers ranar.

    • @_GandalfTheGrey_
      @_GandalfTheGrey_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lukeisstrange1533 Oh very interesting! And where do the infinite tokens come from?

    • @lukeisstrange1533
      @lukeisstrange1533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@_GandalfTheGrey_
      You sac the token to any outlet
      Before it stops existing it would still go to the yard but Rest in Peace replaces that with the Exile
      Ranar triggers bc we exiled something from our battlefield and makes a 1/1 again
      -Repeat-

  • @gunner2o149
    @gunner2o149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Yorion, sky nomad for the fliker part of this deck

  • @benjaminwileman4771
    @benjaminwileman4771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    its cool that sage of the beyond reduces some commander taxes also

    • @santuli_91
      @santuli_91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow I didn’t even consider that!

    • @ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
      @ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sage of the Beyond is bonkers in Haldan/Pako
      Reduces the cost of both commanders by two, then reduces the cost of the things you cast from exile, as well.

  • @dylans.3517
    @dylans.3517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    literally bought this pre-con last night, wonderful timing!

    • @faerie7dragon
      @faerie7dragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also just bought it yesterday, I always wanted to play Azorious without being stax or pure control.

    • @DioStandProud
      @DioStandProud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess everyone woke up yesterday and decided to buy it because I went and bought it too 😂

    • @ZaberFangAT
      @ZaberFangAT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just bought it last week!

  • @mattc4284
    @mattc4284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They should have reprinted Deadeye Navigator in this deck. Surprised it wasn’t mentioned when they were talking about Eldrazi Displacer as well

  • @dustinpulliam9262
    @dustinpulliam9262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I would argue though even with the low print value I would personally say these are the strongest of the mini precons we’ve seen so far out of the box

    • @SacredMagic13679
      @SacredMagic13679 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aesi can do some very, very silly things out of the box.

  • @battl3rais3r
    @battl3rais3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Command Zone. This was the first ever Precon I've ever purchased. I'm new to the magic world and I actually switched Ranar to Brago as my commander which helps the spirit token engine as well. And I haven't switched too man cards.

  • @MstrKipper
    @MstrKipper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Time to learn which cards will get bought out next!

  • @jamesgratz4771
    @jamesgratz4771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you add some more foretell cards and some fliers this deck is a force to be reckoned with. Nice thing is foretell cards are mostly cheap

  • @VincentWolfeye
    @VincentWolfeye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was really bumed that dream devourer wasn't in this decks colors or that this deck didn't include black to have you be able to foretell all your cards.

  • @Rich2799
    @Rich2799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got a scroll rack from a booster pack and thought that card would be crazy in this deck. I’m a little bummed that it won’t make multiple tokens, but I’m grateful you guys explained that before I bought the deck. I still might get this precon, just because it looks fun to play.

  • @mattroach4554
    @mattroach4554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the most important card you omitted is Rest in Peace. With Ranar on the battlefield any creature dying will net you a token. Also, with Ashnod's Altar you can go infinite mana by sacing your own tokens which get exiled which triggers Ranar to get more tokens. Rest in Peace is 3 Euro in Europe so it fits the budget quite nicely. Great video as usual.

  • @thiefofhyrule8000
    @thiefofhyrule8000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful precon I definitely recommend it. I built it, and I'll say for my first Azorius, it's very fun. Primordial Mists is an amazing interaction.

  • @Iwoqvossik
    @Iwoqvossik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Used this as the base for a Vega the Watcher deck.

    • @Bstone410
      @Bstone410 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vega should lean more into casting from the graveyard, top of your library ect. Vega goes good in Ranar but Ranar doesn't go well in vega!

    • @dariocampanella7992
      @dariocampanella7992 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bstone410 i mean. I swapped vega out because how nany cards are you expecting to play in foretell with vega out. best 3 or 4. I thought that keep watching cost the same and you have a bunch of flyers so you get maybe the same amount of cards but in one go.

    • @Iwoqvossik
      @Iwoqvossik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      While I don't totally disagree. I have Echo of Eons, Sevinne's Reclamation and Mass Diminish in there along with effects like Precognition Field and God-Eternal Kefnet. A lot of the other cards that cast from graveyard in Azorius felt pretty lackluster, or on the same level as their Foretell counter parts. I get the added benefit of not getting blown out by graveyard hate such as WAR Ashiok or Tormod's.

  • @tcgnerd1962
    @tcgnerd1962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sage of Beyond reduces cost for the Commander from the command zone or flashback cost aswell , i think this is worth mentioning 😋

    • @ricohard1986
      @ricohard1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, Doesn't it go really well into Izzet+ decks with Impulsive draw type 'exile X cards you may play them before your next endstep'? draw and mana reduction?

  • @jamessaibot5681
    @jamessaibot5681 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rock the local game store with this deck. Upgraded of course, stp-Isocronic Scepter-manifold key early wins every time with ranar, brago, soulherder, hero of bretgard. Added teferi's prot. Bonded Fetch, palace jailer and cloudshift.

  • @Mich3linM4n
    @Mich3linM4n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find running one Wastes as one of your basic lands is often enough for Eldrazi displacer because you can use cards that fetch basic lands to find it. And if you're in a 3-4 color beck the panoramas can often fill the colorless slot too.

  • @Alessandro-vv2fh
    @Alessandro-vv2fh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought at Ranar as a spirit token generator (with Flicker/Foretell sinergies), so I made a pretty interesting Flicker/Foretell-based Spirit Tribal deck with some strange flying sinergies and it has become one of my all-time favorites! So versatile and quippy!

    • @cautiousowl
      @cautiousowl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What did you add if you don’t mind me asking?

    • @Alessandro-vv2fh
      @Alessandro-vv2fh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cautiousowl Well, I changed quite a substantial amount of the cards.
      I made a "Spirit Lord package" to make the tokens substantially bigger, with cards like Supreme Phantom, Empyrean Eagle, Rally the Ranks, Drogskol Captain and Rattlechains alongside some other spirit token generator alongside Ranar, like Custodi Soulbinders, Clarion Spirit and Court of Grace; a "Spirit matter" package, with March of Souls, Shacklegeist and generally good spirits like Bygone Byshop, then a "Flicker enablers" package with cards like Ephemerate, Essence Flux, Soulherder, Brago, Deadeye Navigator and Spectral Shepherd alongside a "Flicker payoff" package like Forbidding Spirit, Topplegeist, Spell Queller, Karmic Guide, Nebelgast Herald and Hanged Executioner. A "Foretell package" is just a plus to activate alongside Ranar, specially Etyhereal Valkyrie, Cosmos Charger, Cosmic Intervention, Depart the Realm.
      Now, the cards on EDHREC aren't actually 1 on 1 on how I built it myself, but they are looking pretty darn similar.

    • @cautiousowl
      @cautiousowl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alessandro-vv2fh yo this was so helpful thank u!

  • @Sinfamous81
    @Sinfamous81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would love to see you guys have a show pitting the "mini" precons against each other!!!

    • @DUES_EX
      @DUES_EX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have. Check there oldest Game Knights videos

    • @Sinfamous81
      @Sinfamous81 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DUES_EX I have watched every video they have lol. I'm talking more specifically about the most recent set decks. I would love to see them played against each other

  • @leemiller6977
    @leemiller6977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another great deck tech of a newly released pre-con deck. I already have the deck and also most if not all of the extra foretell cards from the new set to put in here. Divine Visitation is absolutely going in my deck too....my buddies will soon all be getting wrecked from spirits/angels/removal/wipes!!!

  • @moisesmela5091
    @moisesmela5091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been waiting SO LONG for this one, bought it as soon as I could to get pieces for my monowhite deck, but the thing itself deserves to be made into a deck. It's so fun to just go off with it.

  • @philippebf10
    @philippebf10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    20 years ago ultra pro were great ... Now its all in dragon shield mate

    • @LeKrutes
      @LeKrutes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They where crap then 2. But we did not know any beter. Know dragon shield is king.

  • @ryestar7395
    @ryestar7395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like faerie artisan in the deck every new token exiles the old so you make a tone of spirits.

  • @SpidersDenGaming
    @SpidersDenGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Anointed Procession and Divine Visitation would be great in this deck

    • @marendrayudapratama3827
      @marendrayudapratama3827 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      cathar's crusade is more better and cheap i think

    • @SpidersDenGaming
      @SpidersDenGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cathar's Crusade adds +1/+1 counters...I was talking using Anointed for doubling tokens and divine to make them all 4/4 Angels

  • @MakeVarahHappen
    @MakeVarahHappen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just found out about Angelic Ascension, which is which is an 18-cent uncommon from the last coreset. It exiles a creature or planeswalker for 1W and the controller creates a Serra Angel token. Optimally it is a surgical removal tool for whenever you're about to lose the game and just need to remove something and you don't care what happens after it (ala, a win the game planeswalker went down in a Super Friends deck and is about to ultimate because of doubling season) and ot hits planeswalkers which is rare. Most of the time. It's never dead in your hand though because if your commander is out you can target your own Spirit and it reads 'create a 4/4 Angel for 1W' which is an amazing rate.

  • @jamesprior8090
    @jamesprior8090 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I built this deck and it is awesome. Leaned into flicker and added Orvar, who is insane! Added a couple of Mass Polymorph cards as finishers 👍🏻

  • @bedazzled6534
    @bedazzled6534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fellas, I think you missed ethereal Valkyrie draws a card whenever it does its thing. You never run out of cards, and it reduces the cost of all the cards it exiles by 2. I think that’s pretty solid, close to sun titan territory.

    • @dariocampanella7992
      @dariocampanella7992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i want to argue that is far better than sun titan since has evasion and kinda ramp you as well

    • @jasonmalin1010
      @jasonmalin1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just don't get what they didn't think it was sun titan but haven't ng both in deck is deece

  • @donpettit2263
    @donpettit2263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When it comes to Flicker/Token Generation, if You add Felidar Guardian and combo it with Restoration Angel, you could almost have an infinite spirit token engine by having them blink each other constantly, then go in for the win with an army of spirit tokens.

  • @Soulus101
    @Soulus101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really wanted to make Storm Herd work... the sadness I felt removing it was palpable.

    • @IkeanerReborn
      @IkeanerReborn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's better that way - I just felt the sadness of having it countered.

  • @lukeisstrange1533
    @lukeisstrange1533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A card which became pretty expensive but feels like a really good include for the deck would be Rest in Peace
    Now with RIP you could sac your tokens or block with them and you get a new flier back instantly. Think about Skullclamp for example. And there are many graveyard decks out there, not only do you support your own strategy but you stop many other strategies at the same time with just one card

  • @Jamie261090
    @Jamie261090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mystic Reflection doesn't specify YOUR creatures. How often do you think your opponents will be able to steal you spell by flashing in their own creature after this resolves, but before your creature hits the battlefield?

  • @TooShortPlancks
    @TooShortPlancks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    True story, playing one one one against the Elven Empire deck, I went to magical christmas land by foretelling Storm Herd and spamming out 40 1/1 pegasuses. It was glorious. And so janky. But glorious!

    • @brockbowen2428
      @brockbowen2428 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I played a game where my buddy cast it n got 26 . I made him draw 26 cards n take 26 life with black card in elves deck on my turn. He went from happy to sad pretty fast.

  • @GTezla
    @GTezla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Already enjoying this video with the pro level acapella intro! 😂

  • @ChromaticMonster
    @ChromaticMonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Evangel Of Heliod is part of the reason I usually win games with this deck. I blink it and get a bunch of tokens and use them for blockers and have get a +1/+1 everytime I play a creature. So, I make the token massive and then swing everything

  • @EnemyToad
    @EnemyToad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Azor’s Gateway is a cool card. Cheap card selection, make a few spirit tokens, maaaaybe flip it and have arguably the best land in the format. not saying the card is better than cradle or even close (at all) but sanctum of the sun itself might be. and it’s all upside in this deck!
    Ranar was born to hold Godsend. Flying. Vigilance. Exile. It’s kind of pricy to equip, but it’s so cool.
    Ancestral Vision is good here, and this is the only deck in which I would ever consider playing Mox Tantalite.
    Misdirection. Droskgol Captain. Both cheap and both excellent here.
    then if budget isn’t a concern: forces of will and negation, scroll rack, city of shadows, martyr’s cry for the lulz, and t3feri for the opposite of lulz
    If you can’t tell, I love this deck, and this commander - kind of a sleeper in an unpopular guild and standing next to GOLGARI ELVES of all things but it has won me good number of games so far.
    Obligatory: Jimmy didn’t read Ethereal Valkyrie, it’s one of the best cards in the deck, etc. Otherwise great video as always and a great place to start. Thanks for all your hard work CommandZone team!

  • @Bluejayount1
    @Bluejayount1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sage of the beyond also helps cast your commander!

  • @hotaruasmaria7504
    @hotaruasmaria7504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one that exiles at the end of turn has been clutch in my games. And been used to draw thirty cards and create 50 tokens in the two games I've played with it.

  • @mikebott6940
    @mikebott6940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both of new U Gods are amazing in this deck. Feeling that I'll build this as exile/spirit tribal.

  • @EliyaSelhub
    @EliyaSelhub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suspend triggers Ranar's ability. Riftwing Cloudskate is a nice addition. Also Reflector Mage as a flicker target.

  • @fanaticalproductions9661
    @fanaticalproductions9661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Opinion: Tales of the Ancestors should have been white

    • @moisesmela5091
      @moisesmela5091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed.

    • @final_forest7397
      @final_forest7397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why do they keep doing this? The best two cards in Legends could’ve been white. I swear Wizards is doing it on purpose 😂

    • @christopherreichle6670
      @christopherreichle6670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is not opinion; this is factual

    • @Soulus101
      @Soulus101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you watched Gavin Verhey's vid on improving White? This was one of the pillars of their future approach (asking "should this be in White?" when designing cards for other colours), but it's something we'll only see in print over the next year-18 months.

    • @MakeVarahHappen
      @MakeVarahHappen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Y'all really want them to print Brainstorm in white. That card is as blue as they come.

  • @andrewwest5018
    @andrewwest5018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some cards I added to the deck right away where Alrund, God of the Cosmos, and Promise of Tomorrow. Alrund cares about your cards in hand and in foretell and promise of tomorrow is a great way to turn dieing creatures into 1/1 flying creatures not always the best but can come in handy.

  • @Danielsworlds
    @Danielsworlds 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The version that I took mine and was basically Spirit tribal flicker where soul herder is the secret Commander because he's basically everything the stack wants and needs

  • @unifin
    @unifin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching Josh gradually lose his British accent in every ad is the highlight of my week

  • @VaeDesigns
    @VaeDesigns 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I was showing my build of this, my friend really liked my addition of mirror mockery! This is a cheap rare 1U Enchantment Aura that says:
    Enchant creature
    Whenever enchanted creature attacks, you may create a token that's a copy of that creature. Exile that token at end of combat.
    I also think the way this deck plays well is by drawing as much as possible. Reconnaissance mission, bident of Thessa, ancestral vision, azor's gateway, and Kumena's awakening are all great inclusions in my opinion. So many foretell answers feel like you don't need to worry about max hand size because you always have card advantage in this deck. A above average focus on draw really seems to put this deck at an advantage while you're utilizing exile triggers every turn to generate blockers or pressure very effectively.
    Another fun way to capitalize on your spirits is by thinking tribal! Not too much, but enough to make yourself scary when your board is just full of intimidating trap card looking face down cards. Drogskoll captain, skyclave apparition, supreme phantom, intangible virtue, ruin ghost and hanged executioner fit very well also. I cut nearly everything thats over 4 CMC if I remember correctly because you win by having one really long turn. The Drake is a must have here for certain. Most expensive card i added is deadeye navigator!

  • @Gilderin
    @Gilderin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    These cardvalues is just straigth up ridiculous if you are from Europe.

    • @0ViciousV0
      @0ViciousV0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As in high or low? Lol

    • @Gilderin
      @Gilderin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@0ViciousV0 Magic cards are way less expensive in europe just have a look at Cardmarket wich is an equivalent to tgc player, in europe

  • @santiagolasso141
    @santiagolasso141 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drogskol captain, angel of invention and Sephara, sky's blade are also awesome additions. Specially angel of invention, pump your flying tokens while having an ETB effect. Loved the content btw :)

  • @Phillard87
    @Phillard87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Etheareal Valkyrie is an awesome card .. its basically a 4 Mana 4/4 flyer with card draw, because it reduces the mana cost of something else right when you play it.. and.. you reduce your handsize which is important for the card you just talked before.. Tales of Anchestors.
    Also .. those cards remain foretold even when Valkyrie gets removed. And! .. you can foretell every card .. so it synergizes well with cards from old format.
    It´s just awesome .. I use this cards in every white/blue deck from now on

  • @andrewhoffman1087
    @andrewhoffman1087 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the changes I made to my Ranar deck a week ago were almost completely identical to this. A few exceptions, of course, but VERY similar!

  • @c1dv1c1ous
    @c1dv1c1ous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played this out the box tonight and it did well. I won. It was a long game tho. So many board wipes were played but this deck kept bouncing back.

  • @Ian-to2vo
    @Ian-to2vo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great add-ons friends!!!
    I’ve used this upgraded deck a couple times and it’s great (I won!). Nice that it’s a bit cheaper than Elvish Empire due to the demand for elves...gives you a few extra bucks for add-ons. Card Kingdom delivered the cards in a couple of days!
    It’s funny you mentioned other retailers and lost shipments - I happened to order a few cards for the elf deck elsewhere and the Seedborn Muse never made it 😭.

  • @kgoodfarms
    @kgoodfarms 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching in 2024, just got this precon. It's crazy knowing how Ha$bro took printings to hear you guys talk about the precon values going down.

  • @chrisgallo2236
    @chrisgallo2236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rest In Peace and a sac outlet is infinite ETBs with Ranar if you find a way to take advantage of that with maybe Altar Of The Brood or even if that sac outlet is Altar Of Dementia.

    • @0w3n42
      @0w3n42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Samurai of pale curtain also works in the place of Rest In Peace for this combo

    • @MG-pn2ff
      @MG-pn2ff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      works fine with Blasting Station,.. blow 'em out :D

    • @0w3n42
      @0w3n42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found out that cosmic intervention also works for this combo :)

  • @fuzzybunny7487
    @fuzzybunny7487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you consider doing a series like ultra 101 on cards... meaning showing exactly how to play some of these cards... i am a total newbie and it is so hard to understand some of these cards and how to use them... i think it would greatly help those just starting out .. i watch many of your videos and not easy to figure it out.. I haven’t seen anyone do this well enough to follow...

  • @leonardparangiwicks6083
    @leonardparangiwicks6083 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spectral deluge is super powerful in this deck. It has won me games and I have cast it for both its foretell cost and the 6 mana. It is really strong in so many situations. A card that I slammed into this deck was mystic sanctuary as it just gets so many key spells back.

  • @crossr1984
    @crossr1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This deck is pretty powerful as is. I really want to add a Yorion. I thought about taking out the 10 cmc pegasus spell, but I was able to foretell it with Ethereal Valkyrie (I think you guys don't appreciate that card for what it is) and it was a game winner. I know that won't always happen, but I'm thinking twice about taking it out. Surtland Elementalist though--OUT!

  • @Moardieb
    @Moardieb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the ethereal valkyrie is actually really good with Ranar as it does help you both draw, reduce costs of spells and make flying tokens. Its an excellent blink target and if you have the instant flicker spells you can attack and flicker at the same time getting double the effect.

  • @12fishcake
    @12fishcake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I haven't been into commander for a bit (like a year and 1/2)
    I was looking into these the other night and in a moment of madness, ordered all the commander decks from 2020-2021 (except commander legends I think?)
    Gonna host a mini tournament with them all with a couple friends, cant wait!

  • @michaelhodges9184
    @michaelhodges9184 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually bought the precon and really leaned into the combo aspect of it, adding more of the combo pieces (alter of dementia, blasting station, Rest In Peace, etc) and lots of card draw/Windfall-like effects in the deck to make it a lot faster. I absolutely love the new cosmic intervention card as well since it adds another piece for the potential combo. I also added a subtle spirit tribal undertone to the deck as there are some pretty cool synergies with all of the spirits Ranar makes. Settle the Wreckage is another great card in the deck as well since normally you can make a lot of spirit tokens which you can target with its ability to land ramp in an azorious deck which is quite nice.

  • @danielwomer
    @danielwomer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even though this deck doesn't have much $$ value, I think this is actually one of the more innovative and useful precons in awhile.

  • @MG-pn2ff
    @MG-pn2ff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video Guys!
    I loved to alter this precon, removing all this flying tribe cards, token creators and payoffs, adding hard control, Samurai of the Pale Curtain and Rest in Peace to blow up opponents with blasting station.
    I'm a little bit dissapointed that they didn't mention Yorion, but anyways these were good suggestions.
    But i didn't get why Cosmic Charger isn't in the precon from the beginning xD

  • @andrewcheatwood5970
    @andrewcheatwood5970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t know if anyone mentioned these or if they did, but infinite tokens and mana is easy by adding deadeye navigator and peregrine drake. Plus, adding a foretell card in Starnheim unleashed, you give the infinite mana a place to go.

  • @MadoxXXV
    @MadoxXXV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tales of the Ancestors works with emptying your hand with foretell, then refill

  • @dennisbradford7216
    @dennisbradford7216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Rolling in his grave" !!??? Andrew Lloyd Weber is still very much alive!

    • @Air0Sparks
      @Air0Sparks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right!!!!!

    • @TheCrazyPlayer
      @TheCrazyPlayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Though their rendition might make him wish he were dead. 😆

    • @danielknmusic
      @danielknmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had to do a quick google LOL 😨

  • @clbaker8356
    @clbaker8356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    swiftfoot boots also seems to be a possible new auto include in the precons now

  • @Mine4dayzz
    @Mine4dayzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just an idea, Arcane Artisan can be used as a bargaining chip to allow another player to use something from their hand. You then effectively have that creature hostage since you can flicker your Artisan pretty reliably. Not strong and pretty niche, I know, but since I'm in a casual playgroup I like these little politics interations that enable cool plays.

  • @ronsmit9834
    @ronsmit9834 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Ranar says ''whenever you exile one OR MORE cards'' which means any card or ability that flickers multiple stuff in one go (cosmic intervention) only triggers Ranar once. You don't get a token for everyhting you exiled with cosmic intervention (or brago for example).

  • @wikidclowne6891
    @wikidclowne6891 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sage of the Beyond, reducing cards cast not from your hand.
    Foretell
    Flashback
    Madness
    Impulse draw from Red
    Cast from exile (i.e. New Tibalt)
    Cast from top of library (i.e. Experimental Frenzy)
    Cast from graveyard (Abandoned Sarcophagus, Gina and Geralf)
    Jump-Start
    Did I miss any?

  • @reviewsstuff711
    @reviewsstuff711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Used some of the blink effects on muldriffter. Almost drew my deck 😂😅

  • @Ginger0616
    @Ginger0616 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got this deck ans even 2 years later in holds up! Beat 2 dr who decks with it and had a ton of fun doing it!!!

    • @chrisschneider2393
      @chrisschneider2393 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you add these upgrades? Sleeving mine up tonight. Excited to try it out.

    • @Ginger0616
      @Ginger0616 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @chrisschneider2393 ya I added these upgrades plus a few more and its a super fun deck to play! Enjoy!

    • @chrisschneider2393
      @chrisschneider2393 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What other cards did you add? Im assuming doomskar and epiphany? @@Ginger0616

  • @RollieB89
    @RollieB89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    On Sage the Beyond and Ethereal Valkyrie, I had the same opinion as you guys at first.
    But then realized Sage the Beyond was a dead card in most games and was only useful as foretell fodder
    But attacking and mostly flickering Ethereal Valkyrie became really useful.

  • @erikohman2294
    @erikohman2294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know what I find great to watch during the pandemic? This podcast. Yeah we all know it but damn, just wanna say that some quality content that keeps coming back for more, its even more appreciated now days. This is actually good. Thanks for all the hard work.

  • @hiddenleaf414
    @hiddenleaf414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is where having blocks still would be nice so that Foretell would get more support throughout 2-3 sets instead of just 1.

  • @ynottony24
    @ynottony24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rest in Peace is the most busted card for this commander...

    • @Grundalizer
      @Grundalizer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exiling "one or more cards" still only creates 1 token, it's not 1 token for each card exiled.

  • @cwba1rd372
    @cwba1rd372 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m surprised they didn’t mention Displace
    “Exile up to two target creatures you control, then return those cards to the battlefield under their owner’s control”
    It fits perfectly with this deck!

  • @playernamedjuju8607
    @playernamedjuju8607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought the deck and I’m looking at this Vid for the updates and results, let’s see how well it works

  • @fishtaco3525
    @fishtaco3525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's funny is my g.f beats my ass with the day of the dragon and storm of the herd combo.. she makes hella spirits then makes a ton of horses then plays day of the dragon..and by the time u see it happ it's to late because you think the deck isn't doing anything

  • @fellishable
    @fellishable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Storm herd is a card I love since a friend cast it and made 35 tokens.
    I had a rakdos charm.

  • @oswaldbuttery7664
    @oswaldbuttery7664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put felidar guardian in. The deck already has restoration angel. It’s a good value blink card, and with it out and angel in your hand. You can make infinite spirits on the end step before your turn.

  • @beardedraven7285
    @beardedraven7285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Timely reinforcements fits the white catch up mechanic narrative.

  • @LucasBuilds
    @LucasBuilds ปีที่แล้ว

    As of right now I'm actually running Replicating Ring in my Mondrak, Glory Dominus deck, but I haven't drawn into it yet-- it might end up getting cut later.
    As unlikely as cracking it with my commander out is, the distant potential of 16 mana rocks at once is too much to pass up.

  • @yetiz_gaming230
    @yetiz_gaming230 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if this is mentioned anywhere but orvar is actually silly in the deck. I cracked one and slotted it in. When you target your creatures with blinks you get tokens of them kinda like a panhamonicon

  • @dkicklighter2535
    @dkicklighter2535 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well felidar guardian and resto angel just make it so you can get tokens on an opponents end step.
    Prince Charming and flickerwisp are also a way to trigger the blue white god every turn.