It's a bit sad that the engineer is complaining about the boiler being built in germany, after all we were glad to help. When it comes to preserving the railways, their heritage or even building a new loco, there are no germans or britons, only people who love the railways and steam engines.
When he explained that they wanted someone with experience in boiler fabrication, he didn't realize why: Modern European Pressure Regulations require, that the contractor has at least comparable experience with that. So it was not a choice, but a necessity.
Lars Brodersen Exactly. I just think, we should stop thinking in nationalities, when it comes to preserving our railways. There is no shame in the Brits asking for german help as there is no shame in the germans asking for British help. The guys in Meiningen are Europe's best experts and invulauable. Quite Ironic, given that DB wanted to get rid of the RAW Meiningen as fast as they could in the nineties. You can call it DLW or whatever, but it will always be the RAW Meining to railfans. ;)
In an ironic way, we have to thank communism for the Meiningen workshops still being there years after those in the west were closed and scrapped. Funny old world isn't it?
The engineer was not being anti German, just nationalistic - wanting the whole project to be UK as the original locomotive was. By the way whenever I've dealt with Germans on the phone at work or in person I've always found them very polite & friendly (although I guess there are rude Germans as for every country).
It's kinda ironic as the germans in the 30s and 40s really pioneered the modern railway. That's how they transversed Europe during the war and he was quite fond of trains.
@Berkshire 759 i like the T1 project. but i dont reley think its going to be allowed to go for MALARDS speed RECORD. 100 yes but i think the railroad companys will be that willing to let such a big loco go that fast on there track for fear of damage to the track. But anyways i wish the project best of luck and hope it all goes well for you guys. BEST OF LUCK FROM DOWN UNDER.
But there is a place in the US that can host such an attempt: the Railroad Technology Center in Pueblo, Colorado. They do high-speed rail tests there all the time.
It makes verry much sense to order a boiler from the DB works at Meiningen its a everyday work for them. And a boiler for a brand new loc must been a hounor to make one.
Sure does. That's why all the new builds are ordering boilers from them. I suspect when the restoration engines can't be salvaged anymore they will all order boilers from there.
@@ollylewin I know that in the Netherlands that the veluwse stoomtrein maatschappij VSM ( stoomtrein.org )railway museum build there own new boilers. Some of the volunteers are steamboiler safety inspectors.
Great to see the rejuvenation planned which will hopefully put Darlington on the " Railways Map" of history it deserves. Love the current museum, full of character and well recorded history. I'm afraid the new one does not have this appeal and I hope will not be stripped of all the current fascinating exhibits. There seems to be too much emphasis on 'Space'. Empty space does not tell a story. The NRM York plans seem to have this theme too.
Why was the aspect ratio of the video squeezed from from the proper 16:9 to 4:3, causing everything to appear taller and skinnier that it should? Look at the head on shot of the boiler or any shot of the driving wheels and you'll see that they are oval shaped instead of circular. Very disappointing.
I may be wrong but I think that it is a piece of what is known as "stock" music that producers of documentaries such as this use as and when they need them.
Theres ways to do that, you can start a project to make a guage 1 live steamer or those 1 1/2 guage engines, or start a trust to bring back a long dead beast.
why would they build an a1, if theres one already preserved. and since when could peppercorn use gresley's papers because this literal "scrapheap" looks to much like an gresley a1/a3.
Keegan1104 thier are no a1s left only a2 a3 and a4 class locomotives are left. Tornado is the only locomotive of her class. Though the a1 through a3 do look very similar.
Keegan1104 Scotsman technically, as it’s a superior model of locomotive. But I love the tornado more because it’s pretty much a brand spanking new locomotive.
Keegan1104 AND ARE YOU A BUILDER OF LOCOMOTIVES, AND AN ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN? DO YOU HAVE THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL TO PAY FOR A PROJECT? OR ARE YOU ONLY A CAMERA CARRYING FOAMER RAIL FAN AND WANNA BE STEAM EXPERT? OR ARE YOU JUST AN ADULT DORK STILL LIVING IN YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENT? THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING PROJECT WELL DONE IF YOU HAVEN'T FIGURED IT OUT YET!!
Dangit, I want to watch this, but I can't stand the squished appearance. It's widescreen footage squished into a 4:3 aspect ratio. I can't stand it when that's done; I find it too distracting. I know, it's old and that was the standard ratio at the time, but that doesn't change how annoying it is. There were ways to fix it. Letterboxes could've been added or the sides cropped.
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It's a bit sad that the engineer is complaining about the boiler being built in germany, after all we were glad to help.
When it comes to preserving the railways, their heritage or even building a new loco, there are no germans or britons, only people who love the railways and steam engines.
When he explained that they wanted someone with experience in boiler fabrication, he didn't realize why: Modern European Pressure Regulations require, that the contractor has at least comparable experience with that. So it was not a choice, but a necessity.
Lars Brodersen Exactly.
I just think, we should stop thinking in nationalities, when it comes to preserving our railways.
There is no shame in the Brits asking for german help as there is no shame in the germans asking for British help.
The guys in Meiningen are Europe's best experts and invulauable.
Quite Ironic, given that DB wanted to get rid of the RAW Meiningen as fast as they could in the nineties.
You can call it DLW or whatever, but it will always be the RAW Meining to railfans. ;)
In an ironic way, we have to thank communism for the Meiningen workshops still being there years after those in the west were closed and scrapped. Funny old world isn't it?
The engineer was not being anti German, just nationalistic - wanting the whole project to be UK as the original locomotive was.
By the way whenever I've dealt with Germans on the phone at work or in person I've always found them very polite & friendly (although I guess there are rude Germans as for every country).
It's kinda ironic as the germans in the 30s and 40s really pioneered the modern railway. That's how they transversed Europe during the war and he was quite fond of trains.
This is one of the most British things I’ve seen in a long time
Quite possibly the most amazing case of, "I told you so" done in modern times.
I just wish steam locomotives were treated this well where I live.
Best episode of How It's Made ever.
So happy they're doing this with the T1 duplex
@Berkshire 759 i like the T1 project. but i dont reley think its going to be allowed to go for MALARDS speed RECORD. 100 yes but i think the railroad companys will be that willing to let such a big loco go that fast on there track for fear of damage to the track. But anyways i wish the project best of luck and hope it all goes well for you guys.
BEST OF LUCK FROM DOWN UNDER.
Its a good thing but dont go for the record. Its a pointless record and going that fast could be dangerous.
But there is a place in the US that can host such an attempt: the Railroad Technology Center in Pueblo, Colorado. They do high-speed rail tests there all the time.
@@stef.b.m.lk1902 They could run it on the Northeast Corridor. That's owned by Amtrak and has high-speed passenger trains running on it daily.
I like steam locomotives and tornado is very beautiful
It makes verry much sense to order a boiler from the DB works at Meiningen its a everyday work for them. And a boiler for a brand new loc must been a hounor to make one.
Sure does. That's why all the new builds are ordering boilers from them. I suspect when the restoration engines can't be salvaged anymore they will all order boilers from there.
@@ollylewin I know that in the Netherlands that the veluwse stoomtrein maatschappij VSM ( stoomtrein.org )railway museum build there own new boilers. Some of the volunteers are steamboiler safety inspectors.
Great to see the rejuvenation planned which will hopefully put Darlington on the " Railways Map" of history it deserves. Love the current museum, full of character and well recorded history. I'm afraid the new one does not have this appeal and I hope will not be stripped of all the current fascinating exhibits. There seems to be too much emphasis on 'Space'. Empty space does not tell a story. The NRM York plans seem to have this theme too.
"The accuracy of the Germans"
As always.
Thankfully Siemens wasn't involved or it would be on fire by now
Beautiful
Got this on DVD
Me too
Why was the aspect ratio of the video squeezed from from the proper 16:9 to 4:3, causing everything to appear taller and skinnier that it should? Look at the head on shot of the boiler or any shot of the driving wheels and you'll see that they are oval shaped instead of circular. Very disappointing.
It's common on TH-cam alas, I don't know why people do it. To watch it as it should be, use VLC Player.
60163 LNER A1 Tornado Peppercorn 4-6-2P was built since 2008.
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You know the only steam locomotive I wish they would bring back is the Dreyfur Hudson and big bertha
Hello everyone! can someone please tell me the name of the piece of music at 7:25?
I may be wrong but I think that it is a piece of what is known as "stock" music that producers of documentaries such as this use as and when they need them.
I also want to build a steam locomotive
Theres ways to do that, you can start a project to make a guage 1 live steamer or those 1 1/2 guage engines, or start a trust to bring back a long dead beast.
1:10 "49 were built" Make that 50 :)
Also see " Tornado 60163 out from shalford stn 8th august 2015 edit 2 "
And now in 2020 there building a p2
PITTY THEY CANT BUILD THE BOILER FOR 3801 PROPLY
The Meiningen Steam Locomotive Works
Deutsche Bahn AG
Dampflokwerk Meiningen
Am Flutgraben 2
98617 Meiningen
Germany
Phone: 0049 3693 / 851 602
We'll have another A1 boiler, and two P2's please 😁
no roller bearings then 11:30
why would they build an a1, if theres one already preserved. and since when could peppercorn use gresley's papers because this literal "scrapheap" looks to much like an gresley a1/a3.
Keegan1104 thier are no a1s left only a2 a3 and a4 class locomotives are left. Tornado is the only locomotive of her class. Though the a1 through a3 do look very similar.
Btw, who do you think i better? Flying scotsman or Tornado?
Keegan1104 Scotsman technically, as it’s a superior model of locomotive. But I love the tornado more because it’s pretty much a brand spanking new locomotive.
lol! What about blue peter? i wonder where is she now
Keegan1104 AND ARE YOU A BUILDER OF LOCOMOTIVES, AND AN ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN?
DO YOU HAVE THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL TO PAY FOR A PROJECT?
OR ARE YOU ONLY A CAMERA CARRYING FOAMER RAIL FAN AND WANNA BE STEAM EXPERT?
OR ARE YOU JUST AN ADULT DORK STILL LIVING IN YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENT?
THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING PROJECT WELL DONE IF YOU HAVEN'T FIGURED IT OUT YET!!
Hey, we people can do big things.
It should run on oil not coal
Dangit, I want to watch this, but I can't stand the squished appearance. It's widescreen footage squished into a 4:3 aspect ratio. I can't stand it when that's done; I find it too distracting. I know, it's old and that was the standard ratio at the time, but that doesn't change how annoying it is. There were ways to fix it. Letterboxes could've been added or the sides cropped.
Who’s here because of the T1 Trust?
Aspect ratio FFS!
60163 tornado is not a train its a locomotive you only call it a train when its got coaches on
J7