Pela E6S1(Jiaoqiu lc) Vs Jiaoqiu E0S1 ft Acheron E2S1 vs MOC 2.4 0 cycle

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  • #acheron #0cycle #hsr #honkaistarrail #hoyoverse #memoryofchaos #jiaoqiu #hoyocreators
    Acheron E2S1 crate 56, cdmg 240, atk 3600, light orb 4x piooner 2x izumo
    Aventurine E0S1 crate 48 cdmg 220 def 4100, 4x piooner 2x broken keel
    Sparkle E1S1 159 spd 220 cdmg 4x messanger 2x broken keel
    Jiaoqiu/Pela 160 spd 160 ehr 4x eagle 2x vonwacq
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  • @smirking_moon
    @smirking_moon 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    Remember , they also work very well toghether too (Pela+Jiaoqiu) in a Acheron team

    • @bluuchandesu
      @bluuchandesu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      for e0/e1 yes, but e2+ no its better to use one nilhility + harmony.

    • @smirking_moon
      @smirking_moon 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      @@bluuchandesu yeah but not everyone has parents with money for that 😭

    • @bluuchandesu
      @bluuchandesu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@smirking_moon never claimed anyone did but it was a clarification plus this showcase is showing off an e2 acheron.

    • @jasquezmarxis4751
      @jasquezmarxis4751 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      @@bluuchandesu thank you captain obvious

    • @ThanhPham-tg4jb
      @ThanhPham-tg4jb วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smirking_moon acheron banner release along with hoyo birthday events, u can easily get her e2s1 if u have at least 100 pull before that banner

  • @thouartseraph
    @thouartseraph 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    It’s V1 chat. By no means will this be comparable to launch. Could be better, could be worse. Just putting this out there.

    • @TheoDimitry
      @TheoDimitry 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      it's v2

    • @jerryeljeremy7790
      @jerryeljeremy7790 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheoDimitry V2 with no changes

    • @Whopper-Pixbells
      @Whopper-Pixbells 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When is V3 available?

    • @RealMelodyHinari
      @RealMelodyHinari 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Whopper-PixbellsV3 within some hours for now

    • @Whopper-Pixbells
      @Whopper-Pixbells 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RealMelodyHinari Thx

  • @3.16music
    @3.16music 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    And here I was hoping for Ruan Mei tier nihility support... alright... 😭

    • @Vindenci
      @Vindenci 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      v3 tomorrow, lets see what will change
      and don't copium hard another unit like Ruan mei will take some time to come

    • @3.16music
      @3.16music 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Vindenci I mean yeah, but harmony is eating good while nihility (supports) is starving. If they can make OP harmony, what stops them from making OP nihility

    • @sigewinnieee
      @sigewinnieee 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ngl i cried abt this 💀 why couldnt they make him not niche asf? i love that man and ill get him anyways but i dont want to feel like im losing dmg just cuz hes not with acheron

    • @dragunityx12
      @dragunityx12 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@3.16music "what stops them from" broke playerbase stops them. not me though, my money is UP

    • @gambit2324
      @gambit2324 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@3.16music op nihility? you mean like acheron?

  • @MidFed
    @MidFed 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    He really needs a good buff to put him above other debuffers if he's gonna be worth pulling

  • @vaderglenn
    @vaderglenn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Last time I saw people say a character is just the 5 star version of "x" it was Kazuha and he ended up being the most disgusting support in genshin. Even if gets nothing in v3, I'm still swiping for him and lighr cone. Cant have an acheron team without everyone's signature lc.

    • @sorashizen5130
      @sorashizen5130 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      He got nerfed a lot

    • @Kindi001
      @Kindi001 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      you miss the point. buff value wise Succrose still better. Grouping wise kazuha better. but its not the same with this Jiaoqu (?) and Pela. if your Acheron at E0 Abillity pela to still debuff and generate sp is stupidly high. and if using pearless sweat S5 thats mean Pela cannstack 56% deff shreed and its insane honesly.

    • @justforfunje
      @justforfunje 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      we already have Ruan Mei as Kazuha of HSR, this V3 fox definitely no another Kazuha

    • @feyandhisstuff9888
      @feyandhisstuff9888 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Kazuha is much more stronger and universal unit than any of HSR’s units tho. Because you can’t really use chars in any other than designed state and kazuha even more universal than ruan mei

    • @justforfunje
      @justforfunje 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@feyandhisstuff9888 they are not even in same game, and you arguing about who is stronger, LOL

  • @11_ikadekdwiaditya22
    @11_ikadekdwiaditya22 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Omg thank you for the vid

  • @deedee3355
    @deedee3355 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    “Worst then Pela” they said
    Base on a showcase which both of them finished in the same amount of cycle 😂.
    He clearly better than pela, yes they perform the same in this scenario, but have you people ever think about PF and apocalytic shadow? 🤷‍♂️

    • @substainablejuices9695
      @substainablejuices9695 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      they would perform the exact same in apoc, but in PF yes he is better, would actually make acheron viable in there

    • @Jarubimba
      @Jarubimba 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      The problem is if he ends up being a niche support mostly to Archeron. While Pela is viable in various compositions
      He's by far the best Archeron support. But if ends up being only that, people without her will mostly lose interest in pulling for him

    • @deedee3355
      @deedee3355 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Jarubimba yes im agree with you in some way it is also a let down, but to be frank this game already going to that way since couple patch before, even not only niche support we even get a niche dps.
      Also based on what you said, in my opinion Jiaoqiu is for someone who already have Acheron or at least someone who already play this game since dont know maybe since 1.x version of this game, cause again if we are new its better to have dps or sustain limited character to help us advancing this game further

    • @SekaiCake
      @SekaiCake 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Acheron E2-Haver here.. was hyped about him but yeah..
      From my POV he is basically just a Ult Battery (exclusive to Acheron) and makes PF easier.. but is it worth it? ​@@Jarubimba

    • @deedee3355
      @deedee3355 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@SekaiCake it depends on you tho, do you like Acheron that much it makes you want to have her best support?
      If yes, then he is really worth your pull, cause just like you said, he is just battery for Acheron ult, meanwhile Acheron ult is her main kit.

  • @punyanuchpotiumpol9518
    @punyanuchpotiumpol9518 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    This is so sad I don’t want the yae miko worst than fischl situation coming to star rail 😢 (pink fox real friend)

    • @miguelangelcaballeroaranda9450
      @miguelangelcaballeroaranda9450 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fischl is better at c6, without it Yae is better is most teams

    • @tokyo-sz4zd
      @tokyo-sz4zd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Who is he worse than? He’s legit giving Acheron stacks faster than anyone else in game. Also, this is a comparison with E2S1 Acheron, which lessens his stack generation value.

    • @critanddam9031
      @critanddam9031 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@miguelangelcaballeroaranda9450still fucking sad, the fact that yae needs fischl to perform well is insane

    • @miguelangelcaballeroaranda9450
      @miguelangelcaballeroaranda9450 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@critanddam9031 as a on fielder Yae? Yes, but with dendro she's better

    • @punyanuchpotiumpol9518
      @punyanuchpotiumpol9518 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tokyo-sz4zd in overall kit pela is so much better in MOST team and this is the FACT

  • @jaredtew3302
    @jaredtew3302 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Reasons why u pull him for acheron: 1. e0 Acheron 2. More stacks faster
    Thats basically it. You can choose to pull him if u are dolphin just for e2 because its still even the slightest better than pela so yeah.

    • @OlexiVR
      @OlexiVR 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      even for E2 it's better because any debuffer + Jiaoqiu will allow more ultimate rather than 1 debuffer + 1 harmony

  • @fyrefly6479
    @fyrefly6479 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Given the new changes(the one that makes him and his LC DOT based) could you do E0S1 Jiaoqiu vs E6 Guinaifen with Jiaoqiu’s LC?

  • @Djeeta-rt6iq
    @Djeeta-rt6iq 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    can you try pela + sw vs jiaoqiu in AS

  • @DRealLove
    @DRealLove 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you do the same team with e1s1 Jioaqui?

  • @The_CodFish69
    @The_CodFish69 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Rip they went and made him a DoT hybrid really…

  • @mahibeesifat6727
    @mahibeesifat6727 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can u so a e1 vs e0 jq

  • @Imbolize1
    @Imbolize1 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why Pela wear Jiaoqiu's LC?

  • @myselfmoons
    @myselfmoons 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    0:30 How did Acheron get her 9th Stack fot ultimate??

    • @Kiyoshiii-
      @Kiyoshiii- 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      e2

  • @ghotyolocanisyn2880
    @ghotyolocanisyn2880 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why wait until it becomes acheron’s turn before using her ultimate. Since you were maxed, she missed out on stack(s). Should’ve ult’d right after sparkle’s.

    • @Sirciel
      @Sirciel 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm guesing u meant at 2:46???
      Hes doing that cause he want acheron to have sparkle buff first before ult

  • @Zacharywilliamz
    @Zacharywilliamz วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why not together 😂

  • @mrgg1475
    @mrgg1475 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bro cooked himself

  • @youness4247
    @youness4247 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    can you show the builds at the end please ?

    • @giuseppe99gs
      @giuseppe99gs  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They are in the description

  • @shiron122
    @shiron122 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Acheron e4+lc, pela e6, galgher e6 and rm+lc is enough for me xD just wait another dps for second team, dont hv enough sj for firefly btw 😢

  • @1adelbe133
    @1adelbe133 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hmm.. Deal cycle is strange..😢

  • @felipesouza1792
    @felipesouza1792 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    agora o jogo esta soltando a mao dos elementos fogo kkk pq topaz nem vou falar sobre kkk

  • @35-tranthicamtu35
    @35-tranthicamtu35 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Deal more 10% , yes it is worth it 😀

  • @Green-tt9cx
    @Green-tt9cx 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I be honest. I don't care if he's good with Acheron or not, as long he can fire debuff that is enough.

  • @AdrasAdraki
    @AdrasAdraki 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is opening with acheron's tech on calus a private server thing only?

  • @kalkomsksikru
    @kalkomsksikru 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He's a support? I thought he will be in DoT team 😅

    • @SekaiCake
      @SekaiCake 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He is Nihilty/Debuffer (Increasing DMG) and also does some DMG here and there

  • @xeviivry3798
    @xeviivry3798 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    That... Barely made any difference?

    • @giuseppe99gs
      @giuseppe99gs  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      He gives a lot of stacks for acheron ulti, dmg wise is very similar to pela, the stacks are useful in pf or if you don't have e2 acheron

    • @Msaber2012
      @Msaber2012 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@giuseppe99gs I don't even use Pela on my acheron team anyways. I use SW which is more damage. He does seem extremely underwhelming for a 5 star.

    • @meowblaziken5634
      @meowblaziken5634 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Msaber2012 it his v1 kit, he will definitely will be buff/rework

    • @NamRuto
      @NamRuto 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Msaber2012Since when a debuffer wanted to deal huge dmg?? 💀

    • @Msaber2012
      @Msaber2012 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@NamRuto what does that even mean? 🪨🥥🐆🎁🛍

  • @hero2403
    @hero2403 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please do pela vs jiaoqiu in dr ratio team

  • @user-mg2co8xm1p
    @user-mg2co8xm1p 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    4 star sidegrade WTF hoyo cook?

    • @Kristofy1
      @Kristofy1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      pela is truly the xingqiu of hsr

    • @SlL222
      @SlL222 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I remember one dude was claiming that Acheron is TOP tier while using trash supports like pela….
      I wonder when pela became trash….

    • @destock1637
      @destock1637 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@SlL222 to be fair acheron have a free charcater called pela who is better than some limited 5*. Cof cof im looking at you seele fraudfly and black swan.

  • @OwenOnHere
    @OwenOnHere 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    skip, save your valuable hard earned jades

    • @XuanBachTrinh-of3pb
      @XuanBachTrinh-of3pb 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Unless you don't have E2 Acheron

    • @NamRuto
      @NamRuto 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who asked??

    • @r_quiem6288
      @r_quiem6288 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@NamRuto can people not get any more obnoxious? this is a comparison of a character’s viability *in battle* vs a similar character with the same purpose in the same team. if you like the character, pull. but dont yap and cry about it in spaces where, clearly, you are not the target audience 😭😭

    • @NamRuto
      @NamRuto 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@r_quiem6288 You suppose to tag and say this to that Owen guy. Not me xd

    • @cinnaxscaralover
      @cinnaxscaralover 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NamRutome

  • @bjornnilsson2941
    @bjornnilsson2941 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    So... he's E6 Pela. I was so hyped for Jiaoqiu before because he was rumored to be an E6 Pela AND a sustain. Now he's just the most skipable character of all time. Well my Gepard will be happy to hear it, he won't be out of a job! 😂 Is it just me or did Aventurine do nothing but sustain for this team? At least give him Trend. Although enemies actively tried to avoid hitting him so even that might not have done anything lol.

    • @The0desss
      @The0desss 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Jiaoqiu is still in beta, wait for at least v3 before saying that bs.

    • @bjornnilsson2941
      @bjornnilsson2941 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@The0desss I’m not going to cope about him going back to being a solo sustain. If it happens I’ll be happy to be proven wrong but it won’t unless the beta testers complain and even then it’s a slim chance.

    • @thouartseraph
      @thouartseraph 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@bjornnilsson2941he was never going to be a solo sustainer. It was reported and rumored that he could heal, yes. However, the healing was also reported to be very minuscule and by no means good enough for solo sustain. 0-cycle is diff story though.

    • @bjornnilsson2941
      @bjornnilsson2941 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@thouartseraph ok not Luocha level but since you can sustain even with Welt for short battles, if Jiaoqiu had a heal he could probably have sustained for 2-3 cycle clears which is real all Acheron needs.

    • @thouartseraph
      @thouartseraph 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bjornnilsson2941 Acheron doesn't really need anything but more Light cone options for F2P if you ask me.

  • @Jean-op2yp
    @Jean-op2yp 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm so glad, that he worth to pull

  • @pyn.p4511
    @pyn.p4511 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Not worth to pull at all LMAO

    • @NamRuto
      @NamRuto 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who asked?? And its still in V1. HSR players couldnt read lol🐧

    • @pyn.p4511
      @pyn.p4511 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NamRutoand who ask you? It’s v2 wth

    • @Sunhwk
      @Sunhwk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pyn.p4511 V2 of him had no changes whatsoever. And not worth pulling is a bit... yeah. This is an e2 Acheron - and both him and Pela are finishing on the same cycle. In PF or AS, specially if you have e0 - as most players do - he is way more valuable. His value was always his debuff stacks for acheron - debuff wise vulnerability is still better than def shred.

    • @The_CodFish69
      @The_CodFish69 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@pyn.p4511and the V3 is usually the massive change with V4 adjusting the V3 changes just like with Acheron and FF post V3/4 for them to where they are now.

    • @NamRuto
      @NamRuto 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pyn.p4511 Another Honki Star Bucks Player still cannot read moment😭😭

  • @VuNguyen-zc1qe
    @VuNguyen-zc1qe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just a npc after all