How Did We Buy A Woodland? And Why We Own Our Wood.
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- The story of how we bought our woodland and why. Talking head video!
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Hi , nice video , can't think you touched in the subject but it her benefits of owning woodland is that any income derived from woodland is tax free and after two years of ownership there's no capital gains tax if you sell it
Can you live there full time or build on it because if you can't where's the investment I'm not being negative it's because I'd like to do the same but selling firewood and renting to campers wouldn't bring in enough to run a car I must of missed something
@@callumward5112 Its a capital investment, not cashflow at the moment. :)
No problem I really didn't wanna sound like a hater lol because it's something I'm really interested in to but I would like to be able to live in a self sufficient cabin in the woods is that possible do you know and thanks for the reply too 😊
@@callumward5112 It 'possible' but difficult. You'd need to buy woodland thats free from any covenants (so not from woodlands.co.uk or from woods4sale) and then you'd need to get planning permission. I'd say, learn as much as you can about planning laws. Start by contacting your local council, they can point you in the right direction with planning.
Another option may be to live as a farm hand on a farm. They are allowed farm workers living in static caravans and the like on their land. Many farmers have sections of woodlands as well.
I rent my house, and have a low income, I also own a 3acre plot of pasture land, lots of people find it very difficult to understand why I didn't put that equity in to a mortgage. Simply the kind of house I could get a mortgage for would not allow me space for growing food and camping and for my kids to run free! You don't have to follow the herd and get a mortgage.
I would love this for my family. How is this possible?
well said
Thanks for the interesting video. I have owned a 4 acre woodland in West Scotland for the past 10 years and have thoroughly enjoyed the management and peacefulness that it offers. If anyone is interested in buying a woodland, certainly in this part of the country, be aware of the danger of ticks. Two years ago I contracted Lyme disease from a tick bite, which resulted in me being hospitalised for 6 weeks. As a result, my grandchildren seldom access the woodland unless they are clothed appropriately and legs and arms sprayed with tick/insect repellent - not ideal! I am not trying to be negative about owning a woodland, as it is a wonderful privilege , but just to make people aware of one possible hazard. Anyway I am sure this doesn't apply to the vast majority of woods in the UK and I hope you and others get great enjoyment from the pleasure that they offer.
I've been living in my woods (26acres) for 17 years now and love it 😍
Are you in the UK?
Some good points which I agree with, I invest in a small woodland so i did 4 years ago, its increased in value up over 35% and as you say means I didn’t have to give loads of money to a bank. It’s fantastic to have your own place where you can within reason do as you want. It’s important I think to look for land with no public right of way across it or up to it.
I would love my own woodland. And I would just sit there on the ground, and watch, listen and be at one
We have bought woodland too and as like you we live in rented accommodation. We’ve had ours for over 7 years now and the value has increased more than housing prices by a long way 😊. All we have done is built a Bender to sit in and chill at the weekends and we camp occasionally too. Our lives have changed for the better now and so will yours. We enjoyed your video keep it up 🌲🌳🏕️⛺️
There's always been a bit of contradiction about owning land and living on it yourself. Years ago I did a little research and came upon an organisation called the shack development association.
This was actively working to protect your rights under some old English laws steming from a man's right to provide for his family, chicken and hen keeping is an English man's right, which cannot be overturned easily by beaurocrats. Which is why people were given strips of land to cultivate which eventually produced the allotment association. Another aspect of living on your own land extends from farming and also pubs and hostelries. This states that your allowed to put up buildings or facilities in order to provide security to the property and in order to work the land, maintain and cultivate it, woodland dwellers need somewhere to live in order to coppice and manage the type of property.
Most people would put a mobile home on the property in order to accommodate this. Remember also, most caveats only last so long and can be challenged after a time. We live at a property which excluded us from fencing our property and parking a sign written vehicle on or near it. Understanding the law I got some strange remarks when a neighbour commented that I wasn't allowed to put in a hedge as I was planting one on our boundary. I did tell him to F off but never heard anything else about it. I think he must've been told the truth when he did his fake saintly bit and tried to report me to the council. Stand up for yourselves and best of luck.
You bought it because as a child you watched, Animals of Farthing Wood ! Well even if you didn't, I did lol. I guess that's why I'd like to live in the woods !
Just came across this.... my goodness we certainly share your sentiments around camping in public 🤦♂️. How inspiring, thank you 😊
Great video, thank you! I’d definitely be interested to hear more about the process and covenants 🙏
I'm so glad I came across this video. It was really well analysed and presented. I've been looking into buying a small piece of woodland for a while. Eventually the right plot at the right price will come up . . . . hopefully!
Well done! We have done something similar. We bought an acre near our house, mostly woodland but also a bit of field where we grow vegetables. Like you it provides us with free camping and mostly importantly, a place to go to get out of the house and be in nature.
In regards to the comment about the alternative of buying debt (mortgage) vs land, I still think buying a house with the bank's money is still almost always better than renting if you can swing it. Once you're a few years into the mortgage, the interest you pay each month will be far less than the rent on an equivalent house. All the principle (minus upkeep and selling costs) is going to your asset balance.
But back to the land... having an asset that you own outright and have no costs on is priceless. Highly recommend this to anyone.
That's lovely! I hope you enjoy your land as much as I do mine. Your field for vegetables sounds great.
We will own our home but are on our way to buy outright. Having run the numbers, we'll own outright faster that way. Certainly nothing against owning but don't want to pay over the odds if we can avoid it. Right now, our rent is lower than the interest we'd be paying. We are building other assets in the mean time. It's all part of the long term plan.
How wonderful to have that opportunity ;D Enjoy , we all need as much time as possible in and near nature because we are essentially part of it
Thank you for great honest advice - very refreshing to hear.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching your video. I always said when I had the money, I would buy a field so that no-one could build on it. Recently small woods near me has come up for sale so I am delighted and have shown an interest. Keep your fingers crossed for me
did you get it?
@@Da51lva there’s an issue with access at the moment that needs sorting
Hi there's always a downside to any piece of land but don't be put off. Follow your gut instincts and your own vision. Above all don't take any notice of what other people think they will just put you off your dreams. I bought fourty acres of woodland with all manner of problems including access. Several years later, I did a deal with a neighbouring farmer and I now have my own access. My advice there's always a way, just go for it.
@@timdougall5415 that sounds like a great piece of advice thank you Tim 😊
I don't wont to burst your bubble, but have you heard, of compulsory purchase order. "you will not be able to stop it."
I think owning your own woodland sounds lovely!
Beautiful story, you are absolutely right. I live in the french Pyrenees and have 8.5 acres of woodland - fire wood for the rest of my life, a great investment, and as someone else said in your comments "they don't make land any more". Well done you.
Superb video! Interested in buying my first piece of woodland as well. Good luck guys !
Inspirational stuff and food for thought, thank you ☺
This was such a great video. A real honest insight. I would love to hear more about all of the ins and outs of the legal process!
Same, I'm interested in knowing the the regulation behind that and would be happy to see a video detailing it
This is more WHY rather than HOW.
Hi Lissi, I am now in a similar situation as you describe when you started your project. Thanks so much for your suggestions. I'm on the cusp. Currently I work in grounds and woodland management, close to retirement and new aspirations, with close associations in what's left of the forests of Jamaica and Morrocco. Thanks to you and your family, all the best Patrick.
Brilliant video. Not many like this. Thanks!
That's cool! We looked into woodlands in the UK but seemed to have too many restrictions around them to do much with. I also got sick being on public camp sites, but I also have fibromyalgia. On our plot we now have our hobbit horse truck where we will have a sauna which will be good for my illness. Also an introvert and want to be alone when camping. Gonna make it a rental experience for guests too :)
Lovely video,I wish you lots of luck and hopefully your land gives you what you want and need. 🙂
Thank you, good basic reasons, very helpful, we may be considering this in the future. ☺️
Hello how are you doing?
Your story is so spookily similar to ours, but we got rid of our nightmare tenant, took a deep breath paid out for the repairs, found a new agent and found a great tenant so we do feel lucky now. After a 6 year search we bought our woodland in mid 2021 after a 9 month battle with solicitors and councils not wanting to do any work throughout the pandemic, yet we both had no time off, no furlough and fitted into no category for help so although we know the woodland is a selfish purchase but we really do feel like we deserve to get to this point after the sacrifices made. Like anything in life, if it's easy, everyone would do it. Congratulations on making a step into getting in touch with nature, I hope your woodland make you feel as good as ours does when we walk into it.
Congratulations on getting your woodland! I really hope it's going well for you. We may be landlords again one day but not for now.
Thankyou so much for your help. Xx
I’m so glad this video was recommended to me by THE ALGORITHM, I have a friend in a very similar position to you guys with a property that she rents out. It’s been a really difficult for her and land ownership has never been mentioned to her by any financial advisor. She is going to look into it after this so many thanks 🙏
Congratulations!🥰
If i was able and younger i would use the woodland to make charcoal (using the fallen trees, branshes ect). That way you can live on the land and save tons of cash.
Great work sister
Really inspiring
You seem lovely, good luck with your land 🙌🏻
I bought 4acres in 2017....its been a great journey..
Great video thanks
Sounds like a great idea, good luck with it all!!
Thank you kindly :)
Thanks for sharing your story, very interesting. Im a small woodland owner, and love it. Subscribed, and look forward to more videos. Best wishes 🙂🙏
Good on you, what a lovely video. All the very best for the future, kind regards,
Tony Marsh.
Yes I would love to know more detail because we have talked about buying woodland. Thanks ❤
Really enjoyed your fruitful video ! Thanks for sharing 🙌💛🙌
So inspired by your video. Your financial acumen overwhelmed me. I planted a six acre wood in an effort to save the natural environment and in turn the effects of global warming,but you have shown me that that doesn’t matter as long as you make a profit. Going to sell my wood for development. Bye bye purple emperor.
Great video thank you
What a great video👍x
👍🏻 Enjoy your investment and the peace and tranquillity of nature
I got an allotment ..and that is hellish enough for me...
Where I live in a flat in London is horrendous regarding uglyness. Great video. Thank you for sharinging. I would love to have a small piece of woodland.
Love this
I own 6 acres of a steep wood, the biggest problem is that we have Ash Die back, it has completely decimated the Ash trees and they keep falling into our wood burning stoves. I allow public access and the dog walkers love it. Very hard work and required a lot of equipment to keep it going.
So inspirational thank you!!😄💖🤙🙏
PERFECT🎉🎉🎉 My Absolute Dream & Vision!!!!!! Kudos to you both 👏 🙌 👍 👌
Great video & you made me laugh about other people being annoying...mainly because I feel exactly like that 😂
Just found your channel & your woodland looks beautiful. Will watch your other videos & hopefully see more . 🌳🌳🌳
So you're a neighbour! Well done you guys on getting the woodland. I'm in Bromley and it's so difficult to find woodland to actually get away and have privacy and peace and quiet is so hard to find now. I've had friends that have had tenants that have had exactly the same problems and it's hard to get them out. So glad you made a good choice. Exiting adventures ahead 😀
Howdy neighbour! 😀 you're not far at all really :)
Being that bit further south in Kent, away from London a little more, peace and quiet can be found around here tho it's getting more difficult. More and more new housing going up. It's actually pretty shocking how quickly things are changing in this part of Kent. I'm worried our little wood will become an island among a housing estate! Nothing I can do tho. Just need to enjoy it for what it is in the moment. :)
@@AWoodlandAdventure If it does become an island, sadly, it could be worth more when you decide to move forward?? 😀👍
Agree I'm in leegreen & have started looking myself its not easy at all bx
@@AWoodlandAdventure Keep your eye out for the planning of any new site and send a handwritten letter to the planning head of dept. saying you consent to the development if the developer pays you 100k. (Repeat your offer, no matter what their reply is, if any, and find out how to send a letter like this properly first!)
Same in Herefordshire. You'd think there would be lots of woodland for sale, but most of the land is farmed, and folks dont like change much. Unfortunately we're disabled and most sales are in Carmarthenshire, too far for us to drive... Touch Wood....!
Good luck 🤞🏻👍🏻🏴
Ahh this video is as if you read my mind, or at the very least my comments 👍🏼👏🏼 very insightful .
I did think people would want to know. I would but you don't feel you can ask! Just thought I'd get it out there at the beginning really. :)
I think you've made a great investment, and like you said so much less grief than the rental industry. I've looked at woods 4 sale in the past, sadly I can't really stretch it. Id be happy with half acre if anything that small ever came up.
@@AggyGoesOutdoors They do sometimes. Take a look at woodlands.co.uk as well as woods4sale.
I've seen a couple of half acre plots come up. To be honest, you don't need more than that, how big can you make a camp anyway? The rest is just for looking at and you can do that on any public footpath anywhere!
MORTGAGE: Literal latin translation: DEATHGRIP. You are very wise. Good luck for your future.
Very honest review.weve got 15 acres in scotland it's a conservation area so tons of restrictions.tiks..white tailed eagles .nesting perigrin falcons.bats.barn owls. Great crested newts. Mink. Even glowworms etc .but we camp on it when we want and feel reborn it's awesome...great for kids too.ive subued 😎🤗
It was so great to see this video. Your situation is similar in lots of ways to Mary and myself. We rent somewhere to live and own old allens. I think you are right a lot of people assume to buy a wood you obviously have loads of money and I suspect on TH-cam that creates a bit of negativity from potential new subscribers (for the record I genuinely think your channel should have a few thousand subs by now)...but heck, that's their limiting beliefs and not your or my problem. Mary and I would love you guys (all the family) to pay a visit sometime - and we'd be more than happy to visit you and provide some free labour if you'd like. It's so nice to see your projects developing..keep up the good work!
You'd all be so very welcome at the woods! Thank you for your lovely comment.
That is so generous Sam ;D What a great idea , you all must do that
I would absolutely love to do this.
Looks like Hazel coppice, I sincerely hope you're keeping it in rotation!
It's chestnut that has been out of rotation for many years before I got here. I did have people in to look at it going back to a working coppice wood but, to cut a long story short... they told me not to bother as it's too far gone.
@@AWoodlandAdventure Where is it? I'm likely too far away, but I can probably find someone who will do it for you. There's no such thing as too far gone. If no one else will I'll drive my truck down and do it, we really can't lose such valuable habitat and resource production. It's the one example in the UK where the more resources are extracted from an ecosystem, the healthier it stays.
Thanyou for sharing, very useful information. I've been looking for some woodland for over a year now. I wish to put up a yurt on land and stay a couple weeks at a time. It seems if you ask for planning permission,it's always denied, but then I've heard that one can either put a yurt or caravan and stay in there, also to use for work.
I'm not an expert but my understanding is that you can have a temporary shelter. You are allowed a tent of course so the bell tents fall well within the restrictions. I just make sure that I stay less than the 28 days allowed for recreation.
🎉thank you
We’re just looking into this exact thing
Would definitely like to know more, thank you
Nice video. I have Woodland in BC Canada that I can't really enjoy. I'm always looking over my shoulder for a bear to come charging at me from the woods or a cougar to pounce when my grandchildren visit. Must be nice to be able to relax and walk around without that worry. I'm originally from the UK and thinking of moving (retiring back there) to enjoy the nature without constantly looking over my shoulder. The ideal set up would be a small flat in a village or town and own some woodland close by. What's to stop someone from buying a number of parcels of land and camp for less than 28 days on each plot ( cost taken into consideration)? When you mention camping does that include caravan or motorhome or just tenting?
There's restrictions in Germany as to how long you can stay on land, but true to the stereo type there are many clean, eco friendly sites you can live on for some months before swopping and moving to another site on the chain. I was a 'New Traveller' in the UK, but unfortunately when we tried this, folks would run off with the land fund, or rob the local shop...
Will you be doing a video on costing and what you can and can’t do in your wood?
I agree with you…
I still world have invested in a property,even if you had to get a mortgage, if you compare it to rent, you are getting a property at the end, that will save your outgoings when you retire.
I hope it works out for you, please keep us updated.
So honest and informative. About to buy our own wood and this gave us clarity ... many thanks ❤
Hey there. Just liked and subscribed. Love your straightforwardness, no frills which you get so often, lol. This vlog is a yr old now so how are you all doing??
I'm looking for woodland as we speak , to do much the same as you have...all the business ideas are flying around my head like mad, lol. Having to look outside the box for land in the Midlands, lot of driving and talking to locals and farmers...no luck yet. Be great to hear what you've managed to do.
Regards, Nick.
All land is still owed by the crown
Remove the crown then...
19 acres they dont make land anymore! best purchase i ever made.
Lovely and informative, grateful to hear your honest reasons and decisions. Love the fact you own woodland, how may can actually say that being tied up in the rat 🐀 race of life!....Great thanks.
I'm glad you appreciated it. I did think people would want to know. I always wonder when I watch other channels just how they managed it all financially.
Yes please
Great video and thank you for sharing. We've also looked at purchasing some woodland of a similar size. My biggest concern is other people going into the woods when they shouldn't...is this something you've experienced or have you let things in place to deter this from happening?
We hadn't had any problems until recently when a local started walking her dogs through the woods and allowing them to run and poop anywhere they liked. Ultimately, it's outside and who really owns the outside anyway? Ownership is a made up human concept. But I do understand your concerns. One of the nice things is that it's away from the public, or at least you hope it is. I do have some hidden cameras up that detect movement. I was more worried in the beginning than I am now. I'd rather enjoy myself and not worry too much. If it happens it happens.
@@AWoodlandAdventure A very wise out look and totally agree in regards to the idea of ownership , we are guardians . So to protect a space and make sure nothing and no one is harmed in the area we look over and after is the main aim to being any kind of good guardian. I would love the honour of sharing a space to lovingly guard ;D
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Totally agree with everything you said about the store of value in woodland, the freedom from headache, and the opportunity to enjoy it recreationally. Also nice to see a video without frequent edit jumps!
I'm a bit confused, all the things we would need to know and which I thought you'd talk about, you've said to let you know if we want to know about them!!!!! X much love and God Bless from the UK xx
I re mortgaged my house to buy my woodland , its now worth more than my mortgage, best thing i have ever brought..
Ha yes agree, hope it all goes well.
I hit the like....
Just come across this,.intrigued to watch and see more,.another subby her👍
I’m into personal finance too and I’ve been looking at woodland for years. The problem I’ve found is I wanted to buy some woodland as a campsite but every patch of woodland has covenants saying you can’t use it for this. It’s been incredibly frustrating to find. Good luck with your woodland adventures!
It is hard to find woods without covenants. I dont mind personally but I do understand that if you want to start a business on the land you cant have the restrictions. I hope you manage to find somewhere. Perhaps get talking to local land owners and let them know that if they ever sell any of their woods you would be interested.
@@AWoodlandAdventure thank you. Yes I spoke to a local land agent who told me that companies like woodforsale basically buy large plots of woodland and chop it up (pardon the pun lol) then mark it up 5 fold and sell it off in smaller lots with restrictive covenants on. They gave me similar advice but thank you for taking the time to reply. I’ll follow along for the journey 👍
Seems you don't really own the land if it has covenants on it.
@@JazzFunkNobby1964 You dont really own anything if it has a property tax on it either.
@@anthonydowling3356 Why would you pay a property tax if you didn't own it?
Very informative. Thank you.
I trust you have a log burner at home? 😃👍
As I understand it, there are many restrictions on the use of woodland. You mentioned covenants, and it would be nice to explain these and what other restrictions are in place. Can you camp whenever you like? Are any wood shelters permitted? Perhaps someone can tell us.
I've been squatting in woodland for 15 years ,the worst is just the bugs ,
OMG, I had to do a double. You look just like my niece.
Hi, really great video, thanks! Too true with miserable experiences on new campsites, we just want a place to camp with our kids and some friends. I've been eyeing up buying a small woodland for years and am also looking at mixing up investments
Where do you suggest looking?, rightmove, ebay etc? Thanks!
I have thought about buying woodland before, can't get much for my amount of money but have seen the odd thing. Do you recommend any particular websites?
I think a few of us are grateful for your story, very interesting, and not very often anyone gives as much info as you have 👍 liking how the camp is coming along 😀 any chance you could do a short bit on your camera setup these days?? Do you have the option to set your focus/exposure? Keep 'em coming Lissi 😀
I wanted to give that detail as I think people assume we just have pots of money which so isn't the case.
As for the camera, it's my phone. A Samsung S10 with a smashed screen held together with sellotape! Nothing fancy. I can set focus and exposure etc but generally I leave it all on auto. I should stop doing that, it's very lazy of me! Auto focus can ruin some shots as well as you would have seen in this video as it kept trying to re-focus. I need to not use it for talking head scenes at least.
Im glad to hear from you, was wondering where you'd got to :)
@@AWoodlandAdventure I must admit, I did wonder if you had spare cash lying around 😂 Ah yes, of course it is, remember the 'pings' now 😀 sellotape seems to be holding up well! Do you use an external mic, if so, how do you attach it to your gimbal?? Been a few ups and downs, but now finally moved to the forest, and hoping to get out a whole lot more, woohoo! 😆 P.S glad to see you back also 😀👍
Oh wow! You moved to the forrest?! Thats amazing! Do you have discord? I could share some images of the equipment I have if you wanted. You'll find me on there as LissiKent#7747
@@AWoodlandAdventure I do, todaysworld#2344 newbie alert! 🤦♂️
@@todaysworldjw I'm attempting to find out how to add you on there. If I can't do it, you can join my new server using this link... :)
discord.gg/rkxc2S9a
I've been wanting to get a small woodland but have no idea where to start .I want it to use to would camp on and grow produce and hunt .but estate agents don't seem interested
Never buy land via estate agents. Always avoid 'middlemen' in whatever you do in life.
Thanks for the information.
I'm looking for woodland for similar reasons to you.
I'm finding apart from cost finding woodland close to where I live near impossible. I think most recreactional land is sold word of mouth.
Can i ask one thing, is your land close to your home or did you have to settle for something a long way off?
We were very lucky and got our land within an hours drive of home. I'm always keeping an eye on the market and nothing has come up closer in the past 3 years. Not that we are buying any more, just that I like to keep a watch on what is around. We did pounce on it pretty quickly after I found it online!
@@AWoodlandAdventure thanks, keep looking is the answer.
There are many companies around making huge profits buying up huge parcels of land then sub dividing the land into much smaller parcels at what seem attractive prices to those on limited budgets thinking it’s a way out of the rat race… but they have a huge list of covenants restricting you from doing anything other than maintaining it..be very careful what you are buying and always employ a specialist to make you aware of the restrictions…
Very interesting, thanks for the video. Can you advise any good real estate sites in the SE of England?
Any luck finding an estate agent? I'm looking too, thanks
When you own land you don't have to answer to anybody. Not having to answer to anybody is self empowerment. Power to the people.
Hi, where can one look to find 1 acre, to 4 acre listings of woodland for sale etc ? Thank you
From what I'm looking at I need at least 60-70 grand to just get 4 acres. 30-45k for 2 acres. Doubt I'll even be able to own a handful of dirt in my lifetime at this point.
I'm saving to do this as I don't want a mortgage how did you find the woodland to buy iv been looking but there's not much out there or I'm looking in the wrong places
I have been saving up for a woodland. Cant wait to spend most of my days with grandkids in a woodland camping. Hoping i make more money on the next crypto bull cycle. So hoping 2 years i will be finding my own woodland. 4 to 5 acres wood be nice. I love nature. I am very interesting in more info about covenants etc
Lovely explanation and it makes a lot of sense to buy a woodland in your situation. I've been subscribed to emails from woods4sale for a while and the prices seem to be tracking upwards since covid started.
Thank you :)
They do seem to be going up slowly. I think its a great place to 'park' some money. Unlike other investments you don't just sit there watching the value go up and down over time, you actually get to go outside and physically enjoy it!
Mind the ticks.
I did start looking at woodland b4 crypto started to go down last November. 😖
Are there any standing charges for owning woodland (Council Tax etc.)?
I'm glad I found your chan. and have subbed. 👍🏻😎
No, nothing o pay in the way of council charges. I've had 12 acres for 36 years now and never paid a penny to anyone.
@@philattlee1
Thanks for the info. That's great to know. 👍🏻😎
No council tax or anything. HODL BTC! ;)