By using simple tools and cheap materials you have obtained great results! Many factory-produced fans are worse. I didn't notice the vibration so the balancing method used worked well. You have found a very good method of matching the engine load to its rated parameters. Great job, you will paint it elegantly and everyone will be convinced that it is a factory product. :)))
Do you know your video is genuinely one of only a few sources on the internet where one can actually learn how to build and design a dust collector impeller and its related housing assembly in detail? You did such a great job making it easy to understand, replicate, and even modify. I really appreciate the work you put into this. Thank you. You saved me a lot of time and effort; reading and studying scientific research papers about the "optimal" way to design an impeller assembly where all of the relevant info is either missing because they assume you already have a mechanical engineering degree and it would be too basic to include, or is "encrypted" in unnecessarily complex language/jargon that takes forever for a layman to decipher and subsequently understand, let alone put into practice. You have my heartfelt gratitude; truly, I thank you. I will save so much money replicating this, and have internalized concepts you have shown here that I may later extrapolate from to bring my own original ideas to fruition, beyond "just" an impeller assembly. All due to your selfless sharing of knowledge in a way that is easily digestible to the layman.
If you like this type then check put mathias wandel and marius hornberg also (probably spelled wrong but it's close enough). Good videos are far from eachother and this one seems to be one of the good ones 😄
Such a practical person, no bullshit or over complicated processes or tools. Robust and working results. Watching someone like you that knows what is doing makes it so that even a baby watching understands how impellers work and are made.
As soon as I saw you using proper geometry technique to layout your impeller blades......... I subscribed to your channel. Then when I saw how your table saw top actually moves like a sled........ I was blown away. Your designs are very unique. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Very nice and much respect.
That's a very credible result, and a project I'd be over the moon for. What I found even more interesting were your solutions to some mainline tools I've not seen elsewhere. The sliding mechanisms are a stroke of inspired genius!
Ingenious. This is what I need for a < 1” decorative landscape aggregate vacuum. To lift aggregate into a hopper to separate >1”, 1/4” and sand. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
You should do a follow up video showing static pressure measurements as well. Looks like that would be rather significant seeing as how you paid significant attention to the impeller inlet and attempted to close the gap between the impeller and inlet as much as possible.
Well done, I like your logical and analytical approach to design and construction. Wow what a dust collector. At first I thought the 1Hp motor was over sized but I liked the outcome. When I saw you measure the FLA of the motor under load I liked the methodology of your design. Very impressive on the air flow, both of them. Thank you good video
Wow this is the real deal, I'm working on a system but never got the satisfaction. Taking my old vacuum cleaner apart i noticed the housing was curved like a rolled up hose. This would help the airflow also tapering the ends of the propeller would help. The same for inlet and outlet, but man you hit the nail without a hammer great thinking and execution. You got yourself a new subscriber. Thanks for sharing from Mexico.
I subscribed after this first video. He had me cracking up with his measured marks vs pencil lines. You got it close enough. Also, legend has it, that the arms on your circle-making compass are 8 8 meters long. Wow!
Must feel good getting those results after all the design and building work. I like to quick release part of the design. Great idea for testing and evolution of the design.
Dear John: I am delighted with the videos in your channel. May God bless you and your loved ones with great success, prosperity, health, fame and spirituality. Happy New Year!
Luarrr biasa, ada plastik Indomaret juga pak, saya sebagai karyawan swasta sangat terbantu sekali dengan video bapak, semoga bisa menjadi inspirasi kaizen ditempat kerja saya pak.
With in like 10 seconds of watching you viedo and hering you talk about your project i could tell that you do some cool stuff and quality work. subscribed!
Ini video pertama kali saya nonton chanel Mas. Kesan pertama aku kira orang Philippines atau melayu yg lagi ada di luar negeri. Jadi ragu mau koment takut blewer English ku... 😁 Tapi pas kulihat kreseknya, aku jadi yakin... Gak akan susah buat ngomentarin videonya. 😁😁 Mantaap mas.. Lanjutkan. 👍👍👍
Good work. Loves to build things myself too. I am a constructor, car electrician, car reconditioner, mechanic. Right now since 7years back Im working as a workshop manager in a door factory. Im the one fixing all the machines etc in the production and the paintshop.
Awesome. Thank you. I have a 2hp Extractor but feel the airflow is poor and have been considering an upgrade, and this impeller may be what I look to add. Awesome.
Thank you for your in-depth video! What an amazing contribution to the community! I am about to start building a system based on your "design". I have a motor at the same RPM, only a bit less power (0.6kW). I will start my fan at your final dimensions, and downsize if i see it necessary. The blades, I will make out of plywood (or PVC, I haven't decided yet). I will also add a filter on mine, which will probably slow down the air and draw more power to the motor. After having used your dust collector for quite some time now, is there anything that you would change/do differently?
Did you look at any Bill Pentz dust collection website and videos. Great project. Would like to see amps on static or blocked fan inlet. Looking forward to the actual set up. Cheers From Oz
Yes I did already check that bill pentz and that is great design, and if you ask for the ampere when fan inlet is blocked actually the amps decrease drastically because the fan is turnning with no air volume, The principle is the same way with the water pump without water. Correct me if I'm wrong sir
"Material handling" fans (those processing air with large and abrasive particulates) are designed with flat/straight blades to reduce erosion of the blade surface. Curved blades are more efficient, but increase surface erosion. If the system design has the filters upstream of the fan, that should be sufficient to protect the blades.
agree with you 100%, that's why my diy cyclone design to be big and the intake pipe inside the cyclone are long enough to reduce the materials getting sucks to the impeller, btw that is nice tips from you, thank you
Love the video! You are a talented craftsman. You measured the inlet/outlet velocity differences. I was hoping to see static inlet/out pressures measured and compared. This could be performed cheaply by measuring the height of water that can be pulled/pushed up a tube, against gravity.
@@jhonarief Oh, no problem sir. It's not that it was too loud for my speakers, but that a dieing audio amplifier often makes similar noises. But my speakers are still fine. ;)
Cool design, so I am htinking what is the purpose to get rid of dust in the air, so what causes it, can we change how wood is processed? Can we use water, I see the 19 centruy problem of alway going bigger but nto really ananylzing the problem... SO we don't want dust ot cling ot walls and other places. SO how can we collect dust in a system the most effecient way.. doesa fan do it, you culd have a humidity add moisture keeps dust down to a clumping method but hten sticks ot everything,, but dust does that already... you can redesign the machien and feed end and create a lever arm with weather stripping hatch where you cut and it creates a vaccum into a total colelction system. but then can you do all cuts... the best method is a spearate clean work area, and or also an outfit proepared for hte process... SO Creating a storage system cleaned out with proper storage containers and doors and acutitng area that is solely for cutting, increase swork time, but isoaltes the dust in your work area to a arae that canbe conrolled. You the ncan createa sub wall system... if you want hte fan method of a massive floor ceialing and wall filter fan system taht is cosntantly pouring filter air and oclelcting the dust from teh air, so the cube your cutting in is jsut you basically working ain sealed filter room, wit ha o2 particlaute measure system also. The walls can be filters or a self cleaning walls so the particlaute can stick... There is a lot f othings... Mainly if your using a garage as a tool shop, I suggest putting in the work to create an isoalted cutting area, and storage area... but meh..
Excelente proyecto muy bien desarrollado y mejor ejecutado , una buena herramienta para el taller , gracias por compartir tanta creatividad y conocimientos , un saludo cordial y por supuesto un gran like desde Narón , Galicia (España) 🤓 🛠️ 🔝
I'm not easley impressed but you my friend....one of a kind. Your way of thinking and the way you did make it, that is impressive. Well done and keep it coming, if i could subscribe a thousand times, believe me i would.
You don't need to reduce the diameter of the impeller to reduce the power draw (watt/Amps) just reduce the inlet opening. And for more airflow most centeifugal fans is actually curved the other way around i think it's called "foreward facing" and you can also make it just straight vanes for a little more noise. And for power tuning waith untill most air hoses/ducts are connected and then measure the power and restrict the inlet until the rated power. Plus or minus 10% should be ok but better to be a little low
Very interesting video -great job Jhon... I would never have imagined making this out of wood. How did you determine the balance/counterweights you used? Just a note: you may not have had to reduce the impeller size as you can reduce the amperage by reducing the exhaust air outlet size by introducing a damper valve in the outlet.
Awesome idea and excecution. How do you know how to place the counterweights? I don't know nothing of electricity, may someone please explain a little bit?
I think I can explain that. You let the impeller freely rotate (it needs to be on an axel (shaft) and oriented vertically - the shaft being horizontal of course) until it comes to a rest. Mark the top spot and repeat this until you are sure it always stops in the same place of its rotation. Temporarily attach a counterweight (using tape or such) to the top. You’ll have to guess at how much weight and keep adding and repeating the rotation experiment until the impeller (or any wheel really) no longer comes to a rest at the same location. Now you know that all sides are equally heavy - it is balanced. Now just make the counterweight installation permanent. Done.
How would this compare with a factory made dust collector? What is the power of that motor? I looked a lot smaller than the motors on the dust extractors I use. Kudos for making this unit.
By using simple tools and cheap materials you have obtained great results! Many factory-produced fans are worse. I didn't notice the vibration so the balancing method used worked well. You have found a very good method of matching the engine load to its rated parameters.
Great job, you will paint it elegantly and everyone will be convinced that it is a factory product. :)))
No long preamble, no annoying music or endless monologuing and I thank you !!
Do you know your video is genuinely one of only a few sources on the internet where one can actually learn how to build and design a dust collector impeller and its related housing assembly in detail? You did such a great job making it easy to understand, replicate, and even modify. I really appreciate the work you put into this. Thank you. You saved me a lot of time and effort; reading and studying scientific research papers about the "optimal" way to design an impeller assembly where all of the relevant info is either missing because they assume you already have a mechanical engineering degree and it would be too basic to include, or is "encrypted" in unnecessarily complex language/jargon that takes forever for a layman to decipher and subsequently understand, let alone put into practice. You have my heartfelt gratitude; truly, I thank you. I will save so much money replicating this, and have internalized concepts you have shown here that I may later extrapolate from to bring my own original ideas to fruition, beyond "just" an impeller assembly. All due to your selfless sharing of knowledge in a way that is easily digestible to the layman.
If you like this type then check put mathias wandel and marius hornberg also (probably spelled wrong but it's close enough).
Good videos are far from eachother and this one seems to be one of the good ones 😄
oh yeah dude I'm subbed to both those guys. great minds those two.
Such a practical person, no bullshit or over complicated processes or tools.
Robust and working results.
Watching someone like you that knows what is doing makes it so that even a baby watching understands how impellers work and are made.
As soon as I saw you using proper geometry technique to layout your impeller blades.........
I subscribed to your channel.
Then when I saw how your table saw top actually moves like a sled........
I was blown away.
Your designs are very unique.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Very nice and much respect.
Thank you sir
Some great design features and well built while using budget/common materials and tools. Very nice project.
That's their aren't very many people that have the balls to build something like that great job!💪
You've created a monster!
Haha! Nice work, man. I'm glad you did two versions of the impeller for comparison. I learned a lot from this. Thanks!
Thank you
Great video- BRAVO mate- You need to get Mathias the Canadian Wood engineer to collaborate! Awesome content-
Very good video congratulations. Excuseme, the fins can be flat? Why they have to be curved, curved Is beter than the flats fins? Thank you
Totally captivated by your ingenuity and precision. Awesome job!!! 👍🙂👍
I’m amazed by your ingenuity! This blower works so well. I noticed other equipment that you have built and I’m so impressed! You are a master!
That's a very credible result, and a project I'd be over the moon for. What I found even more interesting were your solutions to some mainline tools I've not seen elsewhere. The sliding mechanisms are a stroke of inspired genius!
Ingenious. This is what I need for a < 1” decorative landscape aggregate vacuum. To lift aggregate into a hopper to separate >1”, 1/4” and sand. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Perfect construction, and very clean, descriptive storyboard too. Thank you.
lol when the bag threw away. This is awesome. The results are amazing👌
Its so good to see someone who really knows how to use simple tools. Great work!!
Thank you for sharing
You should do a follow up video showing static pressure measurements as well. Looks like that would be rather significant seeing as how you paid significant attention to the impeller inlet and attempted to close the gap between the impeller and inlet as much as possible.
Well done, I like your logical and analytical approach to design and construction. Wow what a dust collector. At first I thought the 1Hp motor was over sized but I liked the outcome. When I saw you measure the FLA of the motor under load I liked the methodology of your design. Very impressive on the air flow, both of them. Thank you good video
love your style - your presentation and the shop-made tools.
Wow this is the real deal, I'm working on a system but never got the satisfaction. Taking my old vacuum cleaner apart i noticed the housing was curved like a rolled up hose. This would help the airflow also tapering the ends of the propeller would help. The same for inlet and outlet, but man you hit the nail without a hammer great thinking and execution. You got yourself a new subscriber. Thanks for sharing from Mexico.
Like a squirrel cage on a furnace blower!
Price..
The drumsander jig alone was worth the video. Thumbs up.
Thank you sir
I subscribed after this first video. He had me cracking up with his measured marks vs pencil lines. You got it close enough. Also, legend has it, that the arms on your circle-making compass are 8 8 meters long. Wow!
This simple tools made less noise than vaccum. Thanks Jhon.
Even video has 2years ago, this is still great video, awesome job, what yo doing make me open my mind, much respect from me.
You are 100% genius. Never ceases to amaze me the things you can do
Keep it up , very well done Jhon
Thank you sir
Incredible design, very well thought out. Cheers from Brazil!
Must feel good getting those results after all the design and building work. I like to quick release part of the design. Great idea for testing and evolution of the design.
Dear John: I am delighted with the videos in your channel. May God bless you and your loved ones with great success, prosperity, health, fame and spirituality. Happy New Year!
Luarrr biasa, ada plastik Indomaret juga pak, saya sebagai karyawan swasta sangat terbantu sekali dengan video bapak, semoga bisa menjadi inspirasi kaizen ditempat kerja saya pak.
With in like 10 seconds of watching you viedo and hering you talk about your project i could tell that you do some cool stuff and quality work. subscribed!
Ini video pertama kali saya nonton chanel Mas. Kesan pertama aku kira orang Philippines atau melayu yg lagi ada di luar negeri.
Jadi ragu mau koment takut blewer English ku... 😁
Tapi pas kulihat kreseknya, aku jadi yakin...
Gak akan susah buat ngomentarin videonya. 😁😁
Mantaap mas.. Lanjutkan. 👍👍👍
Buenísimo!! Muchísimas gracias por compartir!! Nose Ingles, pero voy a tratar de traducir!! Gracias desde Argentina!!!
Gede bangat tenaganya ya pak😁, pake b Inggris jadi banyak yang nonton dari luar negeri ya
Incredible and inspiring! Awesome work!
Excellent video, I am going to make mine following your design!
Thank you very much for your effort and expertise.
Oh my God, I've been wanting a video like this for so long. Perfect. Thank you
Good work. Loves to build things myself too. I am a constructor, car electrician, car reconditioner, mechanic. Right now since 7years back Im working as a workshop manager in a door factory. Im the one fixing all the machines etc in the production and the paintshop.
Super ingenious and quality craftsmanship.Thanks for sharing
saya melalang buana di dunia luar, namun banyak sekali orang indo kreatif yang bermunculan. mantap bang.
I am blown away by the tools in his shop. I want to know how to build all of them.
The fan is pretty cool too.
Thank you sir
This is a very nice design. Now I know what to do with that motor I have sitting around!
Best wishes from Uganda.
Mantap sekali. Saya sendiri perlukan benda ni. Thanks for sharing.
Looking forward for the next video.
#staysafe #stayhealthy
Wow!! That was so impressive! Thank you for the video! It was inspiring!
Awesome. Thank you. I have a 2hp Extractor but feel the airflow is poor and have been considering an upgrade, and this impeller may be what I look to add. Awesome.
This guy is on another level...and yes I noticed he actually built the bandsaw....amazing work
That was awesome man! Nice job!
impressive engineering with normal building materials!
Thank you for your in-depth video! What an amazing contribution to the community!
I am about to start building a system based on your "design". I have a motor at the same RPM, only a bit less power (0.6kW). I will start my fan at your final dimensions, and downsize if i see it necessary. The blades, I will make out of plywood (or PVC, I haven't decided yet). I will also add a filter on mine, which will probably slow down the air and draw more power to the motor.
After having used your dust collector for quite some time now, is there anything that you would change/do differently?
Wonderful. How is it performing?
Did you look at any Bill Pentz dust collection website and videos.
Great project.
Would like to see amps on static or blocked fan inlet.
Looking forward to the actual set up.
Cheers
From Oz
Yes I did already check that bill pentz and that is great design, and if you ask for the ampere when fan inlet is blocked actually the amps decrease drastically because the fan is turnning with no air volume, The principle is the same way with the water pump without water. Correct me if I'm wrong sir
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wkwkwk.... mengangkat kresek lokal mas ini ceritanya
Stellar design and geometry skills.
"Material handling" fans (those processing air with large and abrasive particulates) are designed with flat/straight blades to reduce erosion of the blade surface. Curved blades are more efficient, but increase surface erosion. If the system design has the filters upstream of the fan, that should be sufficient to protect the blades.
agree with you 100%, that's why my diy cyclone design to be big and the intake pipe inside the cyclone are long enough to reduce the materials getting sucks to the impeller, btw that is nice tips from you, thank you
Excelent, congratulations.
What a great project. Your ingenuity is remarkable!
That's absolutely insane.
John, That is awesome 👏
I like those who make their equipment by themselves, I do that also
Love the video! You are a talented craftsman. You measured the inlet/outlet velocity differences. I was hoping to see static inlet/out pressures measured and compared. This could be performed cheaply by measuring the height of water that can be pulled/pushed up a tube, against gravity.
Thank you sir
I thought this was the end of my PC Speakers. 12:30 😅
Sorry qbout that sir, I forgot to turn off my workshop fan
@@jhonarief Oh, no problem sir. It's not that it was too loud for my speakers, but that a dieing audio amplifier often makes similar noises. But my speakers are still fine. ;)
Himate its that backward or forward blade shape?? Wich one is better?@@jhonarief
Great video! You got a new subscriber :) Also I think that making the intake hole smaller will help reduce the energy consumption.
Красивая и грамотная работа👍
Cool design, so I am htinking what is the purpose to get rid of dust in the air, so what causes it, can we change how wood is processed? Can we use water, I see the 19 centruy problem of alway going bigger but nto really ananylzing the problem... SO we don't want dust ot cling ot walls and other places. SO how can we collect dust in a system the most effecient way.. doesa fan do it, you culd have a humidity add moisture keeps dust down to a clumping method but hten sticks ot everything,, but dust does that already... you can redesign the machien and feed end and create a lever arm with weather stripping hatch where you cut and it creates a vaccum into a total colelction system. but then can you do all cuts... the best method is a spearate clean work area, and or also an outfit proepared for hte process... SO Creating a storage system cleaned out with proper storage containers and doors and acutitng area that is solely for cutting, increase swork time, but isoaltes the dust in your work area to a arae that canbe conrolled. You the ncan createa sub wall system... if you want hte fan method of a massive floor ceialing and wall filter fan system taht is cosntantly pouring filter air and oclelcting the dust from teh air, so the cube your cutting in is jsut you basically working ain sealed filter room, wit ha o2 particlaute measure system also. The walls can be filters or a self cleaning walls so the particlaute can stick... There is a lot f othings... Mainly if your using a garage as a tool shop, I suggest putting in the work to create an isoalted cutting area, and storage area... but meh..
Really nice job. Well done. I am making one as well. hope it is as good. Looking forward to part 2.
Excelente proyecto muy bien desarrollado y mejor ejecutado , una buena herramienta para el taller , gracias por compartir tanta creatividad y conocimientos , un saludo cordial y por supuesto un gran like desde Narón , Galicia (España) 🤓 🛠️ 🔝
Semangat terus pak membuat inovasi2 baru🔥🔥🔥🔥
Very useful and good explanation
I'm not easley impressed but you my friend....one of a kind.
Your way of thinking and the way you did make it, that is impressive. Well done and keep it coming, if i could subscribe a thousand times, believe me i would.
Thank you
wow very well done sir! you made that look easy! I'd like to see a diyer try that, it would be like a bad 80s comedy movie.
Maybe good to have a reference link to Matthias Wandel 👍
Damn! That's really good suction for just a 1hp motor
Impressive shop! You are very handy! Wish I was that determined :)
Man I love you.. this was incredible.. thank you very much for sharing g
Bagus sekali, sepertinya saya akan membuatnya untuk workshop saya.
Mantaapp om, semangat ya , klo ada yg mau ditanyakan seputaran prosesnya nanti silahkan langsung saja dm di instagram saya @jhonariefdiy
How is your diy dust collector holding up over time? Was there any centrifugal force issues with the high RPM and the fan as it was made out of wood?
You are awesome dude. Love all the homemade tools and this project.Please keep making videos.
Thank you sir
You were checking for runout after glueing the impeller. Fyi. Awesome vid!
Yes , I was scrub it with thin piece of scrap wood
@@jhonarief bro, amazing work. Truly inspiring!
Thank you
Very interesting,
what about the static pressure, was there an difference too?
When I saw that DIY track cc saw set up… my jaw dropped!!! STELLAR WORK John!!
I’ll be subscribing for sure. 😃👍
Superb video! It helps a lot! Thank you for the upload!
You can use power factor correction to lower the power draw also. Very simple.
You don't need to reduce the diameter of the impeller to reduce the power draw (watt/Amps) just reduce the inlet opening.
And for more airflow most centeifugal fans is actually curved the other way around i think it's called "foreward facing" and you can also make it just straight vanes for a little more noise.
And for power tuning waith untill most air hoses/ducts are connected and then measure the power and restrict the inlet until the rated power.
Plus or minus 10% should be ok but better to be a little low
It is interesting job.Have you test how many noise is it? Thanks
Thanks for sharing this Jhon, the results are great!! Keep on doing the good work!
Bisa nih jadi mesin vacum cleaner industri, anyway produksi baling²nya gk ya?
Keren banget pak. Tks untuk contentnya pak
Makasih mas
Absolutely magnificent mate! That's an awesome result! 👏👏👏
You had more air flow but what happened to suction? didn't seem to have as much with the 12 blade.
Did you consider making it belt driven?
Very interesting video -great job Jhon... I would never have imagined making this out of wood. How did you determine the balance/counterweights you used? Just a note: you may not have had to reduce the impeller size as you can reduce the amperage by reducing the exhaust air outlet size by introducing a damper valve in the outlet.
Hi Very Impressive Works Very Very Well Good Video
great video. wud have been more useful if you had shown how you are connecting the suction pipes and how the suction is
That will be on the next episode
@@jhonarief thanks. i really liked the way u designed the impeller blades using the compass.
Thank you
Your efforts have earned you another subscriber. I thoroughly enjoyed this upload. A master at work.
That s a really good blowing machine Jhon. Greetings from us in Holland 🌷🌷🌷
Thank you Jan
Sangat menginspirasi.... Keren mas 👍👍
Makasih masee🤗
This is great job. Well done.
Awesome idea and excecution. How do you know how to place the counterweights? I don't know nothing of electricity, may someone please explain a little bit?
I think I can explain that.
You let the impeller freely rotate (it needs to be on an axel (shaft) and oriented vertically - the shaft being horizontal of course) until it comes to a rest. Mark the top spot and repeat this until you are sure it always stops in the same place of its rotation. Temporarily attach a counterweight (using tape or such) to the top. You’ll have to guess at how much weight and keep adding and repeating the rotation experiment until the impeller (or any wheel really) no longer comes to a rest at the same location. Now you know that all sides are equally heavy - it is balanced.
Now just make the counterweight installation permanent.
Done.
@@Colorado-Tinkering Thank you so much, it really help me out
How would this compare with a factory made dust collector? What is the power of that motor? I looked a lot smaller than the motors on the dust extractors I use. Kudos for making this unit.
I use only 1HP motor and I can't compare this DIY with factory made because I don't have the factory made in my workshop, sorry about that
What is the direction of the blade curve with respect to the roation of the shaft?
You make it see easy !!
Thanks for share your knowledge