I should note at 3:00 I was trying to articulate that it was actually for trade reasons without the Rangers saying it but got lost in thinking about the Lindgren clip. Thanks for tuning in everyone!
For any team to chew a big contract, the Rangers will lose Cuylle. Guaranteed. Ive said it before, this team needs to tank a few seasons, load up on blue chip prospects, and actually develop them properly, unlike what they did with Kakko and Lafreniere. The Rangers have some decent young core pieces to build around, but they have just done it all wrong. In my eyes, Kreider and Kakko might end up going, and neither you will get a big return on, considering Kakko has struggled his entire career except for this season, and even at that, he was supposed to develop as a sniper, but only has 4 goals to show for it. Hes on pace to score less goals than last season. I can definitely see the Sens take a shot at Kakko considering the only thing that holds any real value in Kakko is his contract is up at the end of the year, and will be a team friendly contract, which the Sens need, that could see a better fit with Kakko, and allows the Sens to waive Armadio, who hasnt done anything with the third line at all, and would be a good upgrade to the third line and give Kakko a chance to thrive in what he was meant to be, and thats a sniper on the Pinto line. Kakko needs a new home where he can excel, and Ottawa might be that spot that works the best for him. Now with Kreider, I think he still has value for a team that needs a good net presence on the offensive line, so teams will be interested in Kreider, but anyone else, the contracts pin them down to remain as Rangers unless they give up a ton to get rid of those said contracts, and thats too big a price to pay. Drury should have never signed Shesterkin just yet, cause now the Rangers will go into a rebuild with an 11.5M goaltender. If I was in a rebuild, I definitely would not lock up 11.5M on a goaltender, no matter how good he is.
@@chrisfortin984 Sens have been a poor franchise and he will be an easy blame when things continue to go wrong. He needs a losing or developing team. Anaheim, San Jose and even LA
Every time Kakko has been scapegoated, has that made the team better? They lost when Gallant sat him vs TB in playoffs. Kakko was responsible for getting both Chytl and Cuylle going. This kid gets no love but gets blamed for everything. I hope he gets traded so he can go where he is appreciated for what he can do versus punished for what he cannot do.
Good point. Overall, everyone seems to be picking out individuals as the cause for poor overall team play. When an entire team has tanked, maybe we should be looking for an off ice reason. Personally I have not been a fan of management since Jeff Gorton left.
@@jamesbrymn7353 Kakko will join a long list of players traded by the Rangers who go on to become stars wherever they go. I hope we keep him but the Rangers have a track record of doing stupid things
Ok but tbf they would’ve lost either way with or without him in the lineup lol. He definitely shouldn’t have been scratched but seasons more than over let’s be real here.
@ yes it is over. Now is when Drury can jumpstart the rebuild by trading Panarin and Mika. They’ll get a king’s ransom for Panarin and maybe a bigger younger player for Mika.
Scratching Kakko one of the players who played better and the coach saying using fresh legs it proves how this team is run by fools including the general manager,
A "half truth" - Florida has some huge contracts, they still managed to win.. And they're not the first ones... Players need to hold each other responsible, that's what lacks on the Rangers. They need a leader on and off the ice, that can play with high intentsy/grind and also is not afraid to call out his teammates. That's what Bill Zito realised, hence the M.Thatchuk trade... Genius!
I'll say what Friedman doesn't have the balls to say -- the veteran Rangers players have quit on Drury, pure and simple. The line forms at the left . . .
I just feel like the room didn’t like what Dury did with Barclay. Maybe the room doesn’t want him and are trying to get him fired idk just a thought that came into my mind. I feel like this past off season he did a lot to burn bridges between players.
As someone who has watched probably all but like 10 games the past 15 years or so, this is the least bought in team I've seen. A part from a few, they dont seem to care at all. "Ooops, bad start again... well we got another game in 2 days so we can maybe try then." We need to bring in a real leader, who we probably havnt had since Callahan was traded. Also need someone who drives plays, a trait that has only been portrayed by Chytil(pretty much) this season. I don't know if its fixable with all these contracts we have..
What does everyone think of ex-ranger George McPhee and now LVKnights? I still believe he is the franchise's GM president and a replacement for Drury. LetsGoRangers🤘🏼!
Drury is a big problem. This team lacks speed throughout the entire team, and size on the blueline. Even though Miller is big, he's a stick checker only. Schneider is the only D-man that uses the body. Lindgren has suffered too many injuries, and looks done. Fox is not physical at all and has always been slow. They also could use more toughness (size) at forwards as well. Very confused about Kakko benching, which makes no sense at all. Also need Rempe up with team.
two things that I'm grateful for, not wasting my money for the hockey package on dish, and seeing the Rangers win the cup in '94. That's probably the last time they will ever win it.
@Made_In_NewYork most high level positions are not earned. That's why so many stupid decisions are made. Just bcuz you're not an expert in a field it doesn't mean you can't have a valid opinion.
@@samw31 it is true that he is slow = especially first step. If he had first step quickness, that makes up for lack of speed. However, SamW, do u think AF23 - you know the top Dman with 1 empty net goal this season - could beat grandpa with his walker in a nursing home race?
Igor carried them twice to the ECF vs the eventual cup winners TB and FLA. Still takes a lot of depth to build a winner. A lot of other top teams like BOS DAL CAR EDM TOR but NY fans and press think a cup is automatic.
This team needs a core player on the center side. They only have one first line player and he’s a winger who is sidelined. I don’t think they have the juice to trade for such a player and they rarely become available.
Idk, I think Mika is playing alright not up to contract but not as bad as people are blowing it up to be. Think our biggest problem is the defense, feel that if you get confident dman who play physical and can actually play the puck our team will be better off rather than trading people like Mika or Kreider. Feel that once we pickup the game there the whole team will just naturally play better.
Defense has been weak since Miller was drafted a gifted a top 4 slot he so clearly does not deserve, but the rest of the team and Igor was enough to cover for the weak D. Well, now they won't play for Drury. Bringing in a guy or two isn't going to change it. The locker room is poisoned, you move everyone or give the players what they want - fire Drury.
Let’s try not to forget that many of the targets for criticism are the same players who led the Rangers to the Presidents Trophy last year. We all thought they were great. Maybe the problem is not the personnel on the ice, but how they are being used by the coaches and management. Drury seems to have undone all the great work of his predecessor and is now trying to dump scapegoats in an attempt to save his job. Smacks of desperation. Unless his goal is to gain the first overall pick next year.
The Rangers have a smaller defensive unit that doesn't either skate well (Fox) or make good passes out of the defensive zone. This year, it's gotten 10x worse with the other forwards not playing defensive hockey as well. There is something wrong with the chemistry of the team this year or something within the organization that has taken its toll on the vets. It seems to be only the young players like Cooley , Berard, and Laferriere. Even the bread man has slowed down from a red hot start. The question is do they need to rebuild now?
Jimmy Vesey and Johnny Broadway are sitting because Brett Berard is outplaying both, I believe Lavy when he says he values both and enumerates each of their strengths. It stands to reason that getting fresh legs into a back and back, especially given the team’s failures, is a solid choice that requires no defending. On the question of who to scratch besides Bread for health reasons, my choice would have been Kreider, except that makes little sense if the team is shopping Kreider. Unless Kaako is traded before the next game, it’s reasonable to assume he would be the choice to scratch by default, as unfair as it may seem
Mika is one of the most fun players to watch (in the regular season) but replacing him w/ a more stable player of similar calibre would do a ton for this team. I dont think you win anything w/ Panarin and Mika. both are too streaky and ? in the playoffs.
The LA Kings were out of playoff contention when they fired Terry Murray in Dec. 2011 & hired Darryl Sutter. LA went on to win the Cup in ‘12 & ‘14. And let’s not forget the Oilers’ horrendous start when they fired Jay Woodcroft in Nov. 2023, hired Kris Knoblauch & went on to the Cup Finals. Not saying that it will happen for the Rangers, but clearly, this team is underachieving. Maybe there needs to be a new voice to replace Lavi. May as well try a new coach first & see if there‘s lightning in a bottle. Blowing up the core is a last resort.
@ You THINK that a coaching change won’t work, & that’s fine. I’m just saying that it MIGHT work. And if it does work, great results could happen quickly. A roster tear down takes the Rangers out of playoff contention for several seasons, for sure. BTW, there’s no reason to do a tear down to protect the coaches, as Lavi isn’t likely to make it through a full-blown rebuild anyway. So we may as well roll the dice with a coaching change now, & see where that leads us for the rest of ‘24-25.
I don't know how you undo the damage Drury did dumping Goodrow this is all a mental thing.Also think they fingure lets coast to the playoffs and have something left in the tank IF they get there @SamWesting
Drury needs to be fired .its management and players fault .with all this talent and no effort. And sitting Kakko out makes no sense .how the hell did this all happen. Again fire drury.
i feel that Drury needs to trade Lindgren, Kakko, Miller, and Chytil. if Mika gets thrown , thats ok too. Lindgren and Chytil are too injury prone. Get something while you can. Miller is a a stick guy, you beat him and he gives up. Keeping mindful that the kids who come up and get ice time be aware of roster decisions ..... trade for players who are hungry to win. otherwise the next trade target will be Igor. You would be able to upgarde your entire team by trading him away.
scratching Kakko can only mean he is being worked out for a trade and good for him. the Rangers have done him no favors with developing him or giving him a chance to develop. Trading him would be the kindest thing you could do this kid. Keep cutting Mika's ice time so he finally relents and is willing to waive his NMC. This season is done, there's no coming back from this. Kreider and Mika are not the leaders they need to be and everyone is waiting for someone else to keep standards high. Salvage some picks or prospects by moving Lindgren and Riley.
he was scratched because Lavy does not like him. Drury knows that he can go elsewhere and someone will unlock his potential. That is why he has been hesitant to give him away.
I'm thinking the team they have this year is basically the team they had last year. And, that team should have won the cup. But, they ran out of gas against FL. So, clearly, the elephant in the room is, if we couldn't get it done last year, what's the point if it's probably not going to make it this year. I'm Bruins fan myself but started out as a Rangers fan. So it's Boston #1 and Rangers #2. I had a #19 Rangers shirt whenever I played street hockey....Jean Ratelle.... I do watch all the high lites (or low lites lately for both the B's and Rangers). I watch all the games hilites. I find myself rooting for Vancouver (JT Miller, Jake DeBrusk, Elias Petterson and Brock Boeser) and the Red Wings (Patrick Kane, Vlady Tarasenko, Alex DeBrincat and Dylan Larkin.) Basically, I think the Rangers have just given up for this year after last year. It's probably going to be Tampa Bay this year with Nakita Kutcherov, Brayden Point and how about them getting Jake Guentzel. That's one terrifying line. The depth is real good after them. Not looking good for the B's and the Rangers this year. I also think the Penguins never got over losing Guentzel. He was Cyd's guy. That's my 2 cents.
The Rangers are a disaster when it comes to how they handle their prospects and young players. Kaako should be a part of their solution and they’re making it seem like he’s part of their problem. The rebuilding of the team has to start now. Drury should put Panarin on the block. 20+ teams would be calling the Rangers to acquire his scoring prowess. Trading him would bring back a kings ransom of young talented players and prospects. They need to also speak to Mika and have him relax his no trade clause and move him as quickly as possible. Drury is becoming the problem but he’s not the problem.
Carlos - it was Kakko's passing to both 50 and 72 that got them up and running and built their confidence. You may want to go back and look at how the season started and continued before posting incorrect info as if u have a clue...
KK has been one of the better players on the, it just doesn't show up on the score sheet too often. It's baffling really, the puck just won't go in for him. But he plays hard 200 feet. He's never a reason the team loses.
Seems obvious to me: This is a core that has been able to remove 3 coaches successfully and now they want to move out the GM. The whole team is in mutiny except for the guys on small contracts. Laffy was playing great until he signed a big contract and joined the picket line. Igor was playing great then he signed a big contract and he's joined the strike. Anyone talking about this guy or that is just missing the big picture. Fire Drury and this team goes on a winning streak. The only alternative to move out all the big contracts and start over. Drury disrespected the team's leaders and they are just not going to play for him ever again. Maybe Drury can make the peace but he seems to be on a power trip at this point so that's that. A prez trophy team can't win a game? They didn't forget how to play, they just won't.
Instead of working on improving the team in the offseason and shoring up morale in this rough patch... management continues the rumor mongering. This has been going on for weeks now. Anyone that's ever been in the Army knows this is no way to lead... nor is refusal to sanction or sit those who are wasting 18 minutes of ice time night after night.
It was 3 zip by time I turned on as I was watching Broncos game. Were they that bad early? They made a push in third at least. And yes a lot of others could be benc3d to send message.
I will see how this all goes down with the team. Benching Kakko is a head scratcher unless of course, there is a deal in the works to move him., which would be stupid, yeah he’s not living up to a second overall pick, but he’s still a net positive out there on a team friendly contract… they just seem like a bunch of morons from the owner and GM on down
I can see the Sens going for Kakko to get him in the mix with Pinto to get some more scoring on the bottom 6. If that happens, Cousins could be on the waiver wire to make room for Kakko and get a sniper in place if he works out, could take the place of Claude Giroux if he chooses to retire and pair him with Stutzle if Staios decides not to move Josh Norris. He would have a chance to move up with the Sens and be with a quality line, especially if the Sens also decide to try to go after Trent Frederic from Boston to solidify the third line, and we see Gregor re-paired with Gaudette, that did work early on in the year.
@@TheMediumChannel ooh god, Kakko for Tkachuk, Staios would be fired lol. Kakko is worth a 3rd and a prospect at best. At best. The biggest piece personally I would want from the Rangers is Braeden Schneider as he signed to a 2 year contract, and a guy Ottawa could really use if the Sens want to part from Zub and pair with Sanderson to lock up their 6D. Kakko would be a part of the package aswell and a first rounder (i would prefer in 2027 or 2028 draft, whichever draft Lamon Dupont is eligible to be in) unprotected, and the Rangers would also take Travis Hamonic, but again, that trade wont happen cause the Sens are locked with Brady and arent moving him. If the Rangers truly are open for business, they should really look to trying to get Schneider and Kakko (if the price is right), but Schneider is my guy I would go for big time. As far as the trade for Kakko, to me, would be perhaps an Ostapchuk and a 3rd or a Donovan and a 3rd. For a Schneider, that I could possibly see in a bigger trade that could involve maybe a Ridly Grieg and a 2nd for Schneider. Grieg is in the same boat right now and trying to find a spot for him, but the Rangers could definitely use a guy like Ridly Grieg and could also use a guy like Zach Ostapchuk, and could be expendable to the Sens since they found lightning in a bottle in Adam Gaudette. The trade would serve both teams well. Sens would sure up their 3rd line and solidify their D-core, and the Rangers would be well on their way to rebuild the prospect pool while getting good value from the Schneider trade and get pieces you can build a new core around, especially if they want to protect Cuylle, who will be the face of that franchise going forward. Dont let the stats fool you with Grieg. He's becoming that Brad Marchant who is annoying to play against, gets under your skin and can draw a lot of penalties. The Rangers can definitely use him, and get extra draft picks you can use to try to move a big contract out without hopefully using the draft capital the Rangers currently have.
Why is Lavi putting on the ice the worst, unproductive group of players in the last minute after pulling Quick. Where’s the guys that have been playing well during the game. Horrible decision Lavi, what’s wrong with him?
The Rangers were not that good last year… they got a lot of gift power play time which helped them win a few games when they were behind… I’m starting to think hockey is fixed like the National Fake League. What gives me that feeling is the way the Oilers came back against a dominant Panthers team… Florida up 3 games to none and flying through the Oilers then they forget how to play for 3 games and wake up to win game 7 ….. it’s all about revenue and betting … predetermined outcomes folks. The Rangers got help from the league to make them relevant last year. Now no help they suck again.
Mika needs to go. He's useless.. Constantly breaks his sticks on critical shots. Skates aeound like hes on the ice capades, no balls, no grit...Mika, Get a new hockey company already. I cant.....
Dunce - how would u react to being blamed for everything that goes wrong with the team? He gets blamed for not producing with 20/93 who everyone now knows are terrible. How would u feel if u get no PP time? All he ever hears is what he does wrong.
@@chrisfortin984 the difference is LaF got a chance to skate with Panarin who had his best season ever. Kakko gets stuck with 20/93. What if the reverse happened?
@@jamesbrymn7353 What if is the reason he was under-developed. He never had the chance, and look where he is. If it was the reverse, Lafreniere would be in the same boat, and worth just as much. Before the start of last season I was screaming for Ottawa to go after Lafreniere when his value was rock bottom. Going for Kakko, ya again, Ottawa should go for while his value is still low. However while pondering if the Rangers really are open for business, I changed my mind about going after Kakko and think the Sens should really focus on going after Braeden Schneider. I was really hoping Dorion would have moved up in the draft from the 28th spot and trade up and get Schneider and win the draft getting Stutzle, Sanderson and Schneider. Schneider would lock up their 6D for years to come as they will re-sign Jensen, especially when Carter Yakemchuk comes in next season. Its not hard to trade for a scoring third liner, but getting a guy like Schneider and pair him with Sanderson, and get rid of Artyom Zub, thats a big upgrade to their D and completely lock up their back end, or if Yakemchuk pairs with Sanderson, Schneider can pair with Kleven, again locking up the D-core and keep their depth on D with JBD.
@@jamesbrymn7353 Clown, why is it that other teams first round picks go on to score and produce like they were advertised. If he lived up to 1/100th as he was supposed to he wouldn't be on the 3rd line
There is a discourse between young and old. For example, Lines 3 and 4 were both playing well but a championship contender needs Lines 1 & 2 to be good along with 3rd & 4th lines.
I should note at 3:00 I was trying to articulate that it was actually for trade reasons without the Rangers saying it but got lost in thinking about the Lindgren clip. Thanks for tuning in everyone!
For any team to chew a big contract, the Rangers will lose Cuylle. Guaranteed. Ive said it before, this team needs to tank a few seasons, load up on blue chip prospects, and actually develop them properly, unlike what they did with Kakko and Lafreniere. The Rangers have some decent young core pieces to build around, but they have just done it all wrong. In my eyes, Kreider and Kakko might end up going, and neither you will get a big return on, considering Kakko has struggled his entire career except for this season, and even at that, he was supposed to develop as a sniper, but only has 4 goals to show for it. Hes on pace to score less goals than last season. I can definitely see the Sens take a shot at Kakko considering the only thing that holds any real value in Kakko is his contract is up at the end of the year, and will be a team friendly contract, which the Sens need, that could see a better fit with Kakko, and allows the Sens to waive Armadio, who hasnt done anything with the third line at all, and would be a good upgrade to the third line and give Kakko a chance to thrive in what he was meant to be, and thats a sniper on the Pinto line. Kakko needs a new home where he can excel, and Ottawa might be that spot that works the best for him. Now with Kreider, I think he still has value for a team that needs a good net presence on the offensive line, so teams will be interested in Kreider, but anyone else, the contracts pin them down to remain as Rangers unless they give up a ton to get rid of those said contracts, and thats too big a price to pay. Drury should have never signed Shesterkin just yet, cause now the Rangers will go into a rebuild with an 11.5M goaltender. If I was in a rebuild, I definitely would not lock up 11.5M on a goaltender, no matter how good he is.
@@chrisfortin984 Sens have been a poor franchise and he will be an easy blame when things continue to go wrong. He needs a losing or developing team. Anaheim, San Jose and even LA
Every time Kakko has been scapegoated, has that made the team better? They lost when Gallant sat him vs TB in playoffs. Kakko was responsible for getting both Chytl and Cuylle going. This kid gets no love but gets blamed for everything. I hope he gets traded so he can go where he is appreciated for what he can do versus punished for what he cannot do.
Good point. Overall, everyone seems to be picking out individuals as the cause for poor overall team play. When an entire team has tanked, maybe we should be looking for an off ice reason. Personally I have not been a fan of management since Jeff Gorton left.
@@jamesbrymn7353 Kakko will join a long list of players traded by the Rangers who go on to become stars wherever they go. I hope we keep him but the Rangers have a track record of doing stupid things
Love Kakko too, he makes his line mates better a lot of the time. I also think he could take Kreids place in front of the net in the PP
Ok but tbf they would’ve lost either way with or without him in the lineup lol. He definitely shouldn’t have been scratched but seasons more than over let’s be real here.
@ yes it is over. Now is when Drury can jumpstart the rebuild by trading Panarin and Mika. They’ll get a king’s ransom for Panarin and maybe a bigger younger player for Mika.
Shipping off Goodrow they way the did changed the mood in the room.
THIS
It may have....but grown ups should man up.
Mika needs to put on his big boy hockey pants. Wr don’t offer safe spaces for millionaires
Scratching Kakko one of the players who played better and the coach saying using fresh legs it proves how this team is run by fools including the general manager,
This year is just about all over. They should wait until the offseason. Maybe pedal some players for assets at deadline.
this is what happens when most of the players are already on huge contracts and have no incentive to work hard, play hard, or practice hard.
A "half truth" - Florida has some huge contracts, they still managed to win.. And they're not the first ones... Players need to hold each other responsible, that's what lacks on the Rangers. They need a leader on and off the ice, that can play with high intentsy/grind and also is not afraid to call out his teammates. That's what Bill Zito realised, hence the M.Thatchuk trade... Genius!
@@wesc08 The leaders on this team are unified in their effort to get Drury fired.
I'll say what Friedman doesn't have the balls to say -- the veteran Rangers players have quit on Drury, pure and simple. The line forms at the left . . .
interesting take
Seems to be.
FIRE DRURY
I just feel like the room didn’t like what Dury did with Barclay. Maybe the room doesn’t want him and are trying to get him fired idk just a thought that came into my mind. I feel like this past off season he did a lot to burn bridges between players.
If Kappo gets traded, wherever he goes I hope he becomes a huge superstar.
He won’t
@jam1ga He will
He's the next Buch I can see it.
@dman1737 Man, I miss him. DUMBEST trade the org has made in the last 20 years and giving JT away for free.
@@charliebronson1274 Imagine if we kept Buch, JT, and McDonough?
That first clip is shameful. Lindgren should be in Hartford at this point
I think everyone’s gotta go
Front office down to the bench
Start from scratch
trade'em all
As someone who has watched probably all but like 10 games the past 15 years or so, this is the least bought in team I've seen. A part from a few, they dont seem to care at all. "Ooops, bad start again... well we got another game in 2 days so we can maybe try then." We need to bring in a real leader, who we probably havnt had since Callahan was traded. Also need someone who drives plays, a trait that has only been portrayed by Chytil(pretty much) this season. I don't know if its fixable with all these contracts we have..
It appears that C-Loviette possibly lost the locker room there, unlike last season. Could it be coaching? Always,Let'sGoRangers🤘🏼!
Nah, the GM lost the team. Coach is just defenseless in this situation.
What does everyone think of ex-ranger George McPhee and now LVKnights? I still believe he is the franchise's GM president and a replacement for Drury. LetsGoRangers🤘🏼!
Let’s face it they’re slow. They’re soft and they’re passionless.
Drury is a big problem. This team lacks speed throughout the entire team, and size on the blueline. Even though Miller is big, he's a stick checker only. Schneider is the only D-man that uses the body. Lindgren has suffered too many injuries, and looks done. Fox is not physical at all and has always been slow. They also could use more toughness (size) at forwards as well. Very confused about Kakko benching, which makes no sense at all. Also need Rempe up with team.
Drury inherited this team. His draft picks are just starting to arrive. Those picks together with Drury have to be given a chance
@@paulpaluscio3094DRURY IS THE PROBLEM!!
two things that I'm grateful for, not wasting my money for the hockey package on dish, and seeing the Rangers win the cup in '94. That's probably the last time they will ever win it.
It's lasting a lifetime. Thanks Sam🤯
Scratching Kakko and saying putting fresh legs shows how stupid the coach and Drury are! Rangers won't go anywhere with fools like that!
He is one of the slowest skaters in the league statistically
Not saying I agree but that could be where he fresh legs comment comes from
Love these arm chair GMs who think they know more then the organization 😅
@Made_In_NewYork most high level positions are not earned. That's why so many stupid decisions are made. Just bcuz you're not an expert in a field it doesn't mean you can't have a valid opinion.
@@samw31 it is true that he is slow = especially first step. If he had first step quickness, that makes up for lack of speed. However, SamW, do u think AF23 - you know the top Dman with 1 empty net goal this season - could beat grandpa with his walker in a nursing home race?
Dolan rushed the rebuild. Put Drury in charge with no qualifications
Hit the nail on the head, terrible, meddling owner.
Igor carried them twice to the ECF vs the eventual cup winners TB and FLA. Still takes a lot of depth to build a winner. A lot of other top teams like BOS DAL CAR EDM TOR but NY fans and press think a cup is automatic.
This team needs a core player on the center side. They only have one first line player and he’s a winger who is sidelined. I don’t think they have the juice to trade for such a player and they rarely become available.
Goodrow was the biggest loss to this team. He always played tough, winning face-offs and penalty killing
That Lindgren move against Buchnevich might easily be the worst defensive play I've seen in 2 decades in the NHL. LOL. This is sad
Idk, I think Mika is playing alright not up to contract but not as bad as people are blowing it up to be. Think our biggest problem is the defense, feel that if you get confident dman who play physical and can actually play the puck our team will be better off rather than trading people like Mika or Kreider. Feel that once we pickup the game there the whole team will just naturally play better.
Agree
Defense has been weak since Miller was drafted a gifted a top 4 slot he so clearly does not deserve, but the rest of the team and Igor was enough to cover for the weak D. Well, now they won't play for Drury. Bringing in a guy or two isn't going to change it. The locker room is poisoned, you move everyone or give the players what they want - fire Drury.
Let’s try not to forget that many of the targets for criticism are the same players who led the Rangers to the Presidents Trophy last year. We all thought they were great. Maybe the problem is not the personnel on the ice, but how they are being used by the coaches and management. Drury seems to have undone all the great work of his predecessor and is now trying to dump scapegoats in an attempt to save his job. Smacks of desperation. Unless his goal is to gain the first overall pick next year.
The Rangers have a smaller defensive unit that doesn't either skate well (Fox) or make good passes out of the defensive zone. This year, it's gotten 10x worse with the other forwards not playing defensive hockey as well. There is something wrong with the chemistry of the team this year or something within the organization that has taken its toll on the vets. It seems to be only the young players like Cooley , Berard, and Laferriere. Even the bread man has slowed down from a red hot start. The question is do they need to rebuild now?
Jimmy Vesey and Johnny Broadway are sitting because Brett Berard is outplaying both, I believe Lavy when he says he values both and enumerates each of their strengths. It stands to reason that getting fresh legs into a back and back, especially given the team’s failures, is a solid choice that requires no defending. On the question of who to scratch besides Bread for health reasons, my choice would have been Kreider, except that makes little sense if the team is shopping Kreider.
Unless Kaako is traded before the next game, it’s reasonable to assume he would be the choice to scratch by default, as unfair as it may seem
have to remember were dealing with Chris "im not gonna let it ruin my christmas" drury.
Before any new moves are made Drury has to go.. let the new GM figure this out...
Mika is one of the most fun players to watch (in the regular season) but replacing him w/ a more stable player of similar calibre would do a ton for this team. I dont think you win anything w/ Panarin and Mika. both are too streaky and ? in the playoffs.
No one taking Zibanejad's albatross contract- without the rangers paying a hefty price to unload him. Retention + top prospect + 1st round pick
Hopefully that’s something big that is brewing is getting rid of Drury
4 goals 10 assists in 29 games and Kaako is one of their best players this year says a lot.
Bottom 6 foward at best
The LA Kings were out of playoff contention when they fired Terry Murray in Dec. 2011 & hired Darryl Sutter. LA went on to win the Cup in ‘12 & ‘14. And let’s not forget the Oilers’ horrendous start when they fired Jay Woodcroft in Nov. 2023, hired Kris Knoblauch & went on to the Cup Finals. Not saying that it will happen for the Rangers, but clearly, this team is underachieving. Maybe there needs to be a new voice to replace Lavi. May as well try a new coach first & see if there‘s lightning in a bottle. Blowing up the core is a last resort.
The veteran core is uncoachable, no heart or grit. The young kids are playing better even strength than the veteran core.
@ You THINK that a coaching change won’t work, & that’s fine. I’m just saying that it MIGHT work. And if it does work, great results could happen quickly. A roster tear down takes the Rangers out of playoff contention for several seasons, for sure. BTW, there’s no reason to do a tear down to protect the coaches, as Lavi isn’t likely to make it through a full-blown rebuild anyway. So we may as well roll the dice with a coaching change now, & see where that leads us for the rest of ‘24-25.
I don't know how you undo the damage Drury did dumping Goodrow this is all a mental thing.Also think they fingure lets coast to the playoffs and have something left in the tank IF they get there @SamWesting
Nyr need to tear down everything and actually rebuild. They've tried to avoid it through a retool instead. It's not working
It's not so much that Mika isn't playing well (he's not), it's the lack of effort.
Putting fresh legs in the lineup, when Kreider can’t even skate anymore 😂😂😂
Oh ya he’s proved that when you give him more ice time, he ‘gets in the game’ bench him completely
Drury seems to be the problem
Drury needs to be fired .its management and players fault .with all this talent and no effort. And sitting Kakko out makes no sense .how the hell did this all happen. Again fire drury.
As a Blues fan, what do you want for Kakko? Some other podcast dude in NY was willing to give us Kakko for Saad. I am all about that.
If I was the GM, Kakko isn't going anywhere. Good young piece. One of their 3 best players this year.
i feel that Drury needs to trade Lindgren, Kakko, Miller, and Chytil. if Mika gets thrown , thats ok too. Lindgren and Chytil are too injury prone. Get something while you can. Miller is a a stick guy, you beat him and he gives up. Keeping mindful that the kids who come up and get ice time be aware of roster decisions ..... trade for players who are hungry to win. otherwise the next trade target will be Igor. You would be able to upgarde your entire team by trading him away.
The one common denominator in the Rangers demise is CHRIS DRURY, GET RID OF HIM FIRST!!
scratching Kakko can only mean he is being worked out for a trade and good for him. the Rangers have done him no favors with developing him or giving him a chance to develop. Trading him would be the kindest thing you could do this kid. Keep cutting Mika's ice time so he finally relents and is willing to waive his NMC. This season is done, there's no coming back from this. Kreider and Mika are not the leaders they need to be and everyone is waiting for someone else to keep standards high. Salvage some picks or prospects by moving Lindgren and Riley.
he was scratched because Lavy does not like him. Drury knows that he can go elsewhere and someone will unlock his potential. That is why he has been hesitant to give him away.
I'm thinking the team they have this year is basically the team they had last year. And, that team should have won the cup. But, they ran out of gas against FL. So, clearly, the elephant in the room is, if we couldn't get it done last year, what's the point if it's probably not going to make it this year. I'm Bruins fan myself but started out as a Rangers fan. So it's Boston #1 and Rangers #2. I had a #19 Rangers shirt whenever I played street hockey....Jean Ratelle.... I do watch all the high lites (or low lites lately for both the B's and Rangers). I watch all the games hilites. I find myself rooting for Vancouver (JT Miller, Jake DeBrusk, Elias Petterson and Brock Boeser) and the Red Wings (Patrick Kane, Vlady Tarasenko, Alex DeBrincat and Dylan Larkin.) Basically, I think the Rangers have just given up for this year after last year. It's probably going to be Tampa Bay this year with Nakita Kutcherov, Brayden Point and how about them getting Jake Guentzel. That's one terrifying line. The depth is real good after them. Not looking good for the B's and the Rangers this year. I also think the Penguins never got over losing Guentzel. He was Cyd's guy. That's my 2 cents.
It's not easy making a blockbuster during the season.
The Rangers are a disaster when it comes to how they handle their prospects and young players. Kaako should be a part of their solution and they’re making it seem like he’s part of their problem. The rebuilding of the team has to start now. Drury should put Panarin on the block. 20+ teams would be calling the Rangers to acquire his scoring prowess. Trading him would bring back a kings ransom of young talented players and prospects. They need to also speak to Mika and have him relax his no trade clause and move him as quickly as possible. Drury is becoming the problem but he’s not the problem.
The Rangers should just play with four guys the entire game. They play better on offense killing penalties 😂
The idea that Kakko is one of the better players this year is delusional. He does not drive the third line-- Chytil & Cullye do that.
Carlos - it was Kakko's passing to both 50 and 72 that got them up and running and built their confidence. You may want to go back and look at how the season started and continued before posting incorrect info as if u have a clue...
@@jamesbrymn7353 So why was he scratched instead of those two?
@@carlor.s.4742 because the Coach does not like him.
@@jamesbrymn7353 Hmm, you'd think if he was as great a player as you propose, the coach would want such a player on the ice to save his job.
KK has been one of the better players on the, it just doesn't show up on the score sheet too often. It's baffling really, the puck just won't go in for him. But he plays hard 200 feet. He's never a reason the team loses.
They need to take the “A” off both Kreider and Mika’s sweaters. They don’t deserve it
Change the letter to an F...
Seems obvious to me: This is a core that has been able to remove 3 coaches successfully and now they want to move out the GM. The whole team is in mutiny except for the guys on small contracts. Laffy was playing great until he signed a big contract and joined the picket line. Igor was playing great then he signed a big contract and he's joined the strike.
Anyone talking about this guy or that is just missing the big picture. Fire Drury and this team goes on a winning streak. The only alternative to move out all the big contracts and start over.
Drury disrespected the team's leaders and they are just not going to play for him ever again. Maybe Drury can make the peace but he seems to be on a power trip at this point so that's that. A prez trophy team can't win a game? They didn't forget how to play, they just won't.
Instead of working on improving the team in the offseason and shoring up morale in this rough patch... management continues the rumor mongering. This has been going on for weeks now. Anyone that's ever been in the Army knows this is no way to lead... nor is refusal to sanction or sit those who are wasting 18 minutes of ice time night after night.
They are playing like they don't care anymore
It was 3 zip by time I turned on as I was watching Broncos game. Were they that bad early? They made a push in third at least. And yes a lot of others could be benc3d to send message.
Fox has not looked the same since last years injury and has definitely lost a step !
again, mika takes the one times, doesnt hit the net, .
Mika Zibanejad is my favorite player on the time and no he does not deserve more Ice Town...you got to move him
Panarin doing good HE'S -6
I want to shake Do Nothing Drury and say what are you waiting for? He's too scared to make the required moves, incompetent, or both.
Fox is a cerebral dman. His biggest detriment, his skating.
Actually his biggest detriment is that he's the softest player in the NHL.
lmao Fresh legs....so Zibaniholycrapheisbad stays in ?!?
The coach is really stupid benching kakko and changing the lines so much....lavi has to go now!!!
Rangers need to cancel a U2 concert or something...
Fox should have never snubbed Carolina.
What a moron
I'm losing faith in this organization
LAV HAD TO GO 2 WEEKS AGO!!
Drury is destroying this franchise
The rangers are struggling and they are not handling it well
Fire sale is on the way
As not a Rangers fan..
Seems to me everything's perfect on the Rangers right now😊
We moved the wrong players
I will see how this all goes down with the team. Benching Kakko is a head scratcher unless of course, there is a deal in the works to move him., which would be stupid, yeah he’s not living up to a second overall pick, but he’s still a net positive out there on a team friendly contract… they just seem like a bunch of morons from the owner and GM on down
I can see the Sens going for Kakko to get him in the mix with Pinto to get some more scoring on the bottom 6. If that happens, Cousins could be on the waiver wire to make room for Kakko and get a sniper in place if he works out, could take the place of Claude Giroux if he chooses to retire and pair him with Stutzle if Staios decides not to move Josh Norris. He would have a chance to move up with the Sens and be with a quality line, especially if the Sens also decide to try to go after Trent Frederic from Boston to solidify the third line, and we see Gregor re-paired with Gaudette, that did work early on in the year.
@ yeah but who would we get? Kakko for Tkachuk? YEAH! BRING IT ON!!! (lol)
@@TheMediumChannel ooh god, Kakko for Tkachuk, Staios would be fired lol. Kakko is worth a 3rd and a prospect at best. At best. The biggest piece personally I would want from the Rangers is Braeden Schneider as he signed to a 2 year contract, and a guy Ottawa could really use if the Sens want to part from Zub and pair with Sanderson to lock up their 6D. Kakko would be a part of the package aswell and a first rounder (i would prefer in 2027 or 2028 draft, whichever draft Lamon Dupont is eligible to be in) unprotected, and the Rangers would also take Travis Hamonic, but again, that trade wont happen cause the Sens are locked with Brady and arent moving him. If the Rangers truly are open for business, they should really look to trying to get Schneider and Kakko (if the price is right), but Schneider is my guy I would go for big time.
As far as the trade for Kakko, to me, would be perhaps an Ostapchuk and a 3rd or a Donovan and a 3rd. For a Schneider, that I could possibly see in a bigger trade that could involve maybe a Ridly Grieg and a 2nd for Schneider. Grieg is in the same boat right now and trying to find a spot for him, but the Rangers could definitely use a guy like Ridly Grieg and could also use a guy like Zach Ostapchuk, and could be expendable to the Sens since they found lightning in a bottle in Adam Gaudette.
The trade would serve both teams well. Sens would sure up their 3rd line and solidify their D-core, and the Rangers would be well on their way to rebuild the prospect pool while getting good value from the Schneider trade and get pieces you can build a new core around, especially if they want to protect Cuylle, who will be the face of that franchise going forward. Dont let the stats fool you with Grieg. He's becoming that Brad Marchant who is annoying to play against, gets under your skin and can draw a lot of penalties. The Rangers can definitely use him, and get extra draft picks you can use to try to move a big contract out without hopefully using the draft capital the Rangers currently have.
@@chrisfortin984 Yeah I get Tkachuk is a pipe dream… but this team is driving me crazy… OMG, I picked a wrong season to stop smoking crack 🙄
@@TheMediumChannel I hear ya. Imagine being a Sabres fan for how long they had to endure the process lol.
Maybe Laviolette has to go. Also, how was trading Jakob Trouba going to ever be a good thing??
There’s nobody on the Rangers roster that interests any other team
NJ is looking for a bottom 6. Maybe Laffy or Kakko
The players that need to go are untradeable need to keep the kids that are tradeable
Why is Lavi putting on the ice the worst, unproductive group of players in the last minute after pulling Quick. Where’s the guys that have been playing well during the game. Horrible decision Lavi, what’s wrong with him?
Who has been good up and down that roster aside from Cuylle? LAvi doesn't have many options here. The problem isnt Laviolette.
Fox has sucked this year too.
No, Lindgren has sucked and is bringing Fox way down
@@Inkwelder yet its funny most people want Fox gone. Thats shocking.
The Rangers were not that good last year… they got a lot of gift power play time which helped them win a few games when they were behind… I’m starting to think hockey is fixed like the National Fake League. What gives me that feeling is the way the Oilers came back against a dominant Panthers team… Florida up 3 games to none and flying through the Oilers then they forget how to play for 3 games and wake up to win game 7 ….. it’s all about revenue and betting … predetermined outcomes folks. The Rangers got help from the league to make them relevant last year. Now no help they suck again.
Even if they win against Nashville they’ll probably lose the next game. Pack it in seasons over.
Mika, Miller, Lindgren and Kreider have to go !
And I think they are playing for draft picks that's the only thing I can think of y they are playing so shitty
Make rempe a d man trade koppo lindgren Mika jones miller
Mika needs to go. He's useless.. Constantly breaks his sticks on critical shots. Skates aeound like hes on the ice capades, no balls, no grit...Mika, Get a new hockey company already. I cant.....
Kakko is slow
Kakko is terrible, he's like the child who is 50 still living on his mother's basement. One day he'll grow up and be what we expected
Dunce - how would u react to being blamed for everything that goes wrong with the team? He gets blamed for not producing with 20/93 who everyone now knows are terrible. How would u feel if u get no PP time? All he ever hears is what he does wrong.
Kakko had the same fate as Lafreniere. Terribly developed. Both of them.
@@chrisfortin984 the difference is LaF got a chance to skate with Panarin who had his best season ever. Kakko gets stuck with 20/93. What if the reverse happened?
@@jamesbrymn7353 What if is the reason he was under-developed. He never had the chance, and look where he is. If it was the reverse, Lafreniere would be in the same boat, and worth just as much. Before the start of last season I was screaming for Ottawa to go after Lafreniere when his value was rock bottom. Going for Kakko, ya again, Ottawa should go for while his value is still low. However while pondering if the Rangers really are open for business, I changed my mind about going after Kakko and think the Sens should really focus on going after Braeden Schneider. I was really hoping Dorion would have moved up in the draft from the 28th spot and trade up and get Schneider and win the draft getting Stutzle, Sanderson and Schneider. Schneider would lock up their 6D for years to come as they will re-sign Jensen, especially when Carter Yakemchuk comes in next season. Its not hard to trade for a scoring third liner, but getting a guy like Schneider and pair him with Sanderson, and get rid of Artyom Zub, thats a big upgrade to their D and completely lock up their back end, or if Yakemchuk pairs with Sanderson, Schneider can pair with Kleven, again locking up the D-core and keep their depth on D with JBD.
@@jamesbrymn7353 Clown, why is it that other teams first round picks go on to score and produce like they were advertised. If he lived up to 1/100th as he was supposed to he wouldn't be on the 3rd line
kakko sucks, he doesn't score............
so do your posts
@@jamesbrymn7353 so does your mom
I wish I knew wtf is wrong with them, they are soft have always been soft!!
There is a discourse between young and old. For example, Lines 3 and 4 were both playing well but a championship contender needs Lines 1 & 2 to be good along with 3rd & 4th lines.
Hopefully they get rid of Mika or ship krieder off to the Boston break up those 2 lindgren needs to go to
"Fresh legs" meanwhile ole moldy legs Mika is decomposing on the ice
Chicago Blackhawks at MSG who thinks they wouldn't lose to the nashville predators who spent a ton of money
Need to lose to nashville. Please lose
I'm starting to dislike Lav
They lost to Chicago so losing to Nashville won't make changes mandatory. 🏒🍸