How to Position a Violin Bridge... Correctly!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Master Violin Maker Olaf Grawert talks about the best way to put up and position your violin bridge correctly...
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00:00 Introduction
00:43 Check that there is nothing rattling inside instrument
02:16 Putting on the strings
03:06 Where to position bridge?
05:11 Putting the bridge up
06:16 Make sure the bridge is straight
06:36 Three things you need to watch...
08:24 Putting on last two strings
10:48 Tune up the instrument
10:58 Ready to play....
11:15 Conclusion
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I love it when masters of their craft answer niche questions.
This is going to be a staple video for a lot of new players.
that's why i'm here!
Without those atop the chain to help those bellow, the chain will have no definition
Just got a second hand violin, all I've known is the guitar and saw that piece and this is my first video (likely of many) on how to take care of it. Excited about all of these new stuff
Who's here in 2024?❤
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It was one of the first things I taught myself, how to set a soundpost and bridge, change strings and tailpiece. If you live far away from a luthier it’s very handy. Plus you really get to know your violin and can make adjustments when it sounds off. You know it’s character and how to get the best out of it with the setup. I changed the setup entirely on my violin and now it plays better and sounds the way I want. It was harsh and overpowering, now it’s softer, cleaner and more responsive.
at-home recommendations for a “tinny” a and e string? g and d are marvelous
I would love to know what you done to get those results!
I would love to know what you done to get those results!
So you got me:
How do you set the soundpost?
A master of precision down to the 1/2 millimeter.
A treasure of learning that can do nothing but increase one's appreciation for quality violins.
I'm so glad you are showing how to put up the bridge. I had put it up on my own so many times and each time I'm never sure.
Thank you Olaf, my bridge was 5mm too far toward the tailpiece! Also the sound post is now in the correct place thanks to moving the bridge. I think the sound has improved.
Maestro your bridge shape is just amazing. Best bridge I ever seen!
Thanks for making this video. Very helpful and educational.
Thanks very much, it’s a great help .. I just came across your video today and fixed the bridge.. the violin is giving an excellent sound now .. much appreciated
Thank you so much you’re a lifesaver. I was playing my violin when suddenly the bridge came off. I was really scared because my violin when I bought it it’s already had the bridge on it so I was worried but then I TH-cam it and I found your video and it was a lot of help I really liked the video
Thanks so much, Olaf. My violin arrived today and I was wondering about it's setup. You answered my questions and allayed my fears.
Wonderful as always, Olaf.
thanks for sharing your knowledge
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!
Absolutely gorgeous and educational. Thank you so much for such rich and detailed video. You are a Star!
Thank you! I bought my 12 year old daughter a violin for Christmas, she understood your video very easily to be able to install her bridge she is going to continue to watch your videos to learn more!
Thank you Master for great info.
Thanks Olaf I got my violin yesterday and it helped me so much
sir, I'll be watching a lot of your videos! This is pure gold!
Thank you so much for this. God Bless You out there.
Thank you so much for making this video; it helps us immensely as we don't have violin luther in Guam we recently moved here.
Thank you so much!!
This was very helpful 👌🏼
Thank you, I love your work very informative
Excellent video. Thanks!
Thanks for this video! The bridge of my violin was badly places and this really helped me to place it correctly. I even made my own video about it ;-)
Thank you ❤✨🎻
Very helpful...thanks
Thanks for the idea
Thanks a lot
I learnt more abt my violin now ❤
super helpful!
This video was really helpful since I recently gotten a viola on offer up so I just need a new bow to play now
Good information!
Thanks!
Thanks! 😀👍🏻
Thank you so much just got my violin this week and I don't have a teacher in my uni I was so frustrated because violin music is underrated in my country sudan
thank you
I love this video 😍
Thanks bridge wood quality is very important for good sound
When I first bought my violin. it came set up. I had this fret sticker. And I was scared at first because the bridge fell off when I took the strings off. Well I used a picture as a guide to repositioned the bridge when I restrung it there were indents on the violin where the bridge had been set up. I made it straight as possible. Once the strings were tight I found you could still adjust the bridge forward or backward a little. I did that until I got a consistent sound. I'm glad I was able to do it by myself without wrecking anything.
Due to covid, I’ve been waiting quite a while for my luthier to come back to Thailand to change my bridge as the strings have cut into it 😕...wish I lived near Olaf
Thnx john hero II from south
What is the correct distance from the bridge to the nut, and from the nut to the front of the tailplate? Is 330 mm and 25.5mm correct? Thank you for all of your videos and your enjoyable presence.
Olaf. I enjoyed your video. One question: Should we be concerned with the scale length? I read that it is 330 mm for a full size violin. Is it important to double check the position of the bridge by measuring the scale length?
What an interesting and informative video, thank you. So for a left handed player would one just simply set the bridge the other way round?
Hello Olaf, I have an antique J. B. Collin Mezin violin from 1900 & after watching this video I measured the distance from the body to the inner F-hole markers. This turned out to be about 192mm & the string length was also slightly shorter than the standard 328mm.
I have since moved the bridge back a few mm to set up the correct string length, is this correct or should I move it back between the markers?
The top plate has footprint marks where previous bridges have been sitting for over 100 years.
Thanks in advance, keep up the great work with your videos.
I just had someone ring up about a mouldy bridge & they may want to clean it & also to make sure it is sitting correctly, so I said, look up Olaf & this last video, which was rather timely for them. Hopefully all will be OK (I'll hear about it if not).
If only all teachers corrected their student's leaning bridge before it starts to bend. I remember when playing in a certain orchestra that I noticed a cello with a bending bridge & she was playing on a 'Harry' cello. I had to remind her to please do something about it.
Very helpful video, thank you.
One question about the distance from the string to the side of the neck. Should it be even in respect to the side of the string, or from the string centerline? This something that comes up on guitars as well. If it's the former version then the bridge is not in the middle, it needs to be slightly towards the E string side.
Small point, but it makes a difference.
Thanks Olaf. I love your unique teaching style.
One question about this demo. The inside and outside nicks on the F hole are slightly lower on the violin body than the outside nicks. In your demo, you used the inside nicks as the guide to center the bridge. I have been placing the bridge further up so the inside and outside nicks sort of bracket the bridge. Do I need to move the bridge down a mm to line up with the inside nicks?
Move it. Always use the inside nicks to position the bridge.
Hello Olaf, for the positions being aligned to the F-hole, is it the same for Viola, Cello, and Bass? Thanks!
i would add that you should put pencil lead in the grooves to help reduce friction/pulling of the bridge towards the fingerboard. also, the bridge needs to be straight, but it isn't exactly 90 degrees. the general idea is the bridge wood shouldn't be in compression. so if it's too far one way or the other, you're actually squeezing the wood fibers, and if left too long, makes the bridge warped. theoretically if the grooves are lubricated with enough pencil lead, it should be more inclined to stay in the correct position. this is all dependent on the bridge being well made to begin with! some factory instruments, the bridge is of fresh/soft wood. you ideally want the bridge to be seasoned/dry.
Soft pencil lead in the grooves, both on the bridge and the nut grooves. Helps the string glide in the grooves during tuning. Also, some 'E' strings are provided with a tiny plastic tube which is meant to sit in the 'E' groove of the bridge (with the string passing through) to help reduce string wear. I was always taught that the rear (unlabelled) side of the bridge (ie facing the tailpiece) should be vertical, which means that the front (labelled) side appears to lean back VERY slightly.
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When you play a nyckelharpa, with mechanical keys, precisely spaced, and tangents precisely tuned, correct positioning of the bridge requires a tape measure. Exactly 400mm bridge to nut. Otherwise you have 50+ notes that need retuning/checking. At least on a violin your finger positioning compensates for any differences in bridge to nut distances between instruments or setups.
I watched the entire video just cause it was nice to watch, I don't play the violin. Nice content!
Olaf, great video. You are very helpful! A student of mine on a fixed income was gifted a VSO to learn on. I see things that need to be fixed, but I know she doesn't have lots of money. What can she do inexpensively to fix her violin?
1- A good set of strings... Tonica are great value for the sound
2- just getting the top of the bridge adjusted to the right string height, string spacing and curvature.
3- getting the nut adjusted to the right string height and spacing.
4- just putting peg paste on the pegs a d...
5- getting the soundpost adjusted
Very informative thank you. Is it essential to remove the D and A string when putting up the bridge or can you do it with all four strings on the violin?
You can put it up with all strings... Just make sure they are loose
Perfekt LG
This is a great video as always! I take it that this is aimed at players? Would you do a video on advanced bridge placement? Like in relation to the bass bar and geometric center, accounting for scale length, too?
Hi Johannes,
Yes, my videos are mainly aimed at players.
Over the years my biggest frustration has been the lack of information given to students and players about their instrument.
My goal is to have a much better informed string community.
There are some fantastic books for professionals and people looking to delve deeper into violinmaking.
Dear Olaf
I am delving deeper! What books do you recommend?
Where are you located in Australia? We will plan a vacation and bring our instruments to get them tune up to your shop.
From,USA..
My grandfather gave me his violin without setting it up so thanks!
How can we tell the ages of each violin? And what will they look/sound like?
gosh thank you for this i was tuning my g string and i was trying to see what was wrong with it.Suddenly,the bridge popped out.I was so scared,im a begginer as well💀
Very interesting video, thank you very much. What can i do, if the bridge is slightly too high? My e string is 4 mm above the fingerboard and i have the feeling this makes pressing down the string properly more difficult.
Have a luthier make you a new bridge. It's not a job for a novice.
Hi i have an old French violin with a shorter body Stop than usual (about 190mm) , the neck length is 130mm and the body length is 355mm. What do you think i should do about the bridge position and how can I find the ideal position ? Should I ignore the f nicks?
Omg, thank you for the information, bridge backwards the low string would not tune correctly,..now it does,😂
Isn't it 32.8 cm between bridge and saddle for a 4/4 violin? (vibrating string length)
You just saved me $60 / 45.14£
need video on adjusting bridge curvature, they’re always TOO flat and kids always catch adjacent strings!!!
Hello Olaf, I need help translating a violin label that its written in German "Kurrentschrift" font. Is it possible to email you a picture???
What about the curve of the feet of the bridge? last one I installed had adjustable feet. Now this one needs some adjustment to be fitted perfectly on "the belly of the goose".
Hello, I bought a violin bridge 4/4 absolutely raw, and I would like to know the dimension to adjust it properly. Also, it is no post inside this violin, how is it possible to measure it to make one ? Thanks for you advises
Is the surface of the top plate, at the position where the bridge sits, exactly parallel to the base of the top plate? In other words should the bottom surfaces of the bridge completely cover the surface of the top plate/
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So my mother in-law bought me a violin for my birthday and we realized by watching your videos that my violin doesn't have a violin bridge ,she bought it second hand.
Previous video: How to avoid hand patches.
This video: 7:49
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You appear to have a small piece of yellow tube around the E string. On another video of yours I noticed that this was sitting on the bridge but, here you have it just floating on the string. You don't mention this on either video, I'm just wondering where this should be positioned?
Sir I want to purchase good violin from you so what can I do for
I got a bridge stamped "Teller Germany" and it's stamped on the wrong side. For the E-string to go low and the G-string to go high, I have to turn the stamp towards the tailpiece. Looking at them on line, sure enough, the low side is to the right if you're looking at the stamp. Not a big deal, but I played with my bridge backwards for a week! Just sayin' not all bridges are stamped the same way.
i received my violin in the mail. I tuned the strings, and maybe about 5 minutes afterwards the bridge popped out from under the strings. Mine does have a pick up on the violin, so I assume it goes back in the pickup. It is a cheaper violin definitely, but is that normal for that to happen?
When a violin is shipped with the strings slack and the bridge off, I would worry that the sound post would come loose just like that first violin you shook as an example.
I got one shipped to me that way but thankfully the sound post did not move (maybe it is even a bit too tight in there?)
Hello, Olaf! my violin does not have a bridge. how can i use it and is it playable?
I'm having a problem with the intonation of my g-string when the bridge is directly in between the middle of the sound holes I offset my bridge to correct the intonation is there something wrong that I may be doing?
Whats the distance between the strings on the brigde ?
I think I'd prefer to buy one of this man's violins and toss the one I got from Amazon!
My strings are way too tight. How do I loosen them to get the bridge in
I'm changing my strings and I noticed that I can see marks from the strings near the nut. When do I need to have my fingerboard looked at? And, do I need to invest in peg paste if I've had no problems with my pegs?
If you mean marks on the fingerboard, it may be that the fingerboard requires "shooting" (ie smoothing). A violin maker can do this easily.
The nick of my violin are not in the same position so what can I do to place my bridge?
I got a soundpost reset and once I got it pack there was scratches and the varnish on the F hole was scraped off, is there anything I can can do to fix it myself?
To be honest In my opinion the violinmaker that scratched it should fix it...
Where are u located at
I give my customers a stick with a small notch at 325mm. Place the end against the nut, and the notch should fall exactly on the top of the bridge. A quick and non-technical way to assure that the scale is correct and it will intonate perfectly.
What is it peg ?
it looks so easy 😭
Agreed with everything however, final positioning is where the player likes the sound.
is that twosetviolin ?
What if the bridge maker put the stamp on the flat side? Doesn't the curved side of the bridge face the front.
Note my violin is cheap.
Your bridge was cut than the usual bridge may i know what kind or name of cut technique?
The Olaf technique... 😁
But really... After many years of research I've come up with a model that really transfer a lot of the vibration energy of the strings on to the top plate of the violin. 🎻
What if I don’t have a pirastro string packet around to measure the straightness?
🤣... You might have to use a Thomastic packet
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My violin has just fallen ftom the bed and had scratches is that will affect on it. I AM STILL CRYING💔💔💔
Who needs a bridge anyway
Anyone that doesn't play a string instrument
Those who do not have "troubled water" neither.
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what it called? a material between the chin rest and the violin that look like a piece of wood
Cork.
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Thank you,