Thank you, Babz! This is EXACTLY what I was talking about. You make it so much simpler than what I've been doing with counting dots and half-cups and green speeds (and often missing anyway!) - I have a feeling I will be watching this video a few more times. Really appreciate it!
@@Babzilla33 just one quick question to make sure I understand something: are you taking 25% off the distance on these putts to compensate for the 12-speed greens or not? Sometimes it seems you’re not…
I’m not taking anything off the distance with these putts. I calculate them all the same. What I’m simply doing is getting an idea of where my starting ram point is with the given distance/elevation, then make modifications to it depending on green speed and the extra 5% power in adding
You know what screws me up? If I was calculating that Pebble Par 5 (10:56) - 6.1ft, down 3.4 in - I would take 6.1 - 3.4 = 2.7 then adjust for the green speed (x .75 for 12 spd) and get 2.025, which is only 13.5% of the 15 meter. Your initial number is just 2.7 (18% of 15 meter) then you ADD another 5%. Now wonder I'm always hitting beneath the break! Should I not be bothering with the .75 for 12s, .69 for 13s, etc?
Generally what my putt distance formula looks like is this: (((7.9/green speed) x distance) + elevation) +2.1 This gives me a pretty firm putt % to start with. Because my mindset in this scenario is ramming, I choose to add the 5% power to the putt. However I have to understand that this will eliminate a good portion of the break. So by learning the tendencies of the green over time, I can judge how much aim to reduce for the extra power. I’ve always been a firm putter because I don’t want the ball to fall in the hole, I want it to go 1-2 feet past if I miss. This allows me to utilize break and with the mindset of aiming on the high side, I can increase my odds of making putts.
I Truly love WGT Golfing and I love all these Videos. TY While all of this is over my head, I'm finally starting catching on your Off Ding Logic, and... I'm actually reading the green, before I shoot. (Wow) Your videos are always exceptional, with Amazing Graphics! // * Without being condescending * If you created a video about "opening a jar of peanut butter... " It would be enjoyable to watch)) 😀
Please excuse my ignorance but I am not familiar with how the adding or subtracting is giving you the break offset. With your technique how wide is a full grid?
I am essentially using JC Sneed values, where half a grid (first line) is 10, then full grid is 15. This is a quick method of practicing short putts when someone doesn’t feel like counting dots. So I add the 2 values for downhill, and subtract for uphill. I make a final decision based on the line I see. Improving green knowledge is the key
@@Babzilla33 Thank you sir. So a half grid is 10” and full grid is 20”… a useful piece of information as I was under the impression a full grid was 24”. Thanks very much.
In terms of JC Sneed which is what I use, only the first line is 10. Then 1 full grid is 15 (aimer in the middle of the box to hole in the middle). Every subsequent “line” thereafter is 7.5. So it would go like this: 10,15,22.5,30,37.5,45,52.5,60. Half, 1 grid, 1.5 grid, 2 grids etc etc
Different greens speed would require a slight variation. For instance I may add/subtract less elevation to/from the distance if the green speed is slower. So 12 greens with a 7ft down 2in putt would be “9” Jc sneed. But on 8-9 greens I would maybe only call it 7. The key factor is what your eyes begin to learn about the green and how it responses to the putt.
Hey babz. U might have already mentioned this but how are you so quick to know how much power to hit it!!?? I’m understanding where to aim but not power
@@Babzilla33 that would be putting power? Don’t u get that by distance then plus or minus elevation then times the green speed which tournament is .75 or do you get putting power another way?
This is the formula I use to get my adjusted distance. (((7.9/Green speed)* Distance)+ Elevation) + 2.1 Once you have that number, divide it into your putt meter increments and you'll have your power %. This can easily put into a sheet so every time you change the green speed, the power will change with it.
Thank you, Babz! This is EXACTLY what I was talking about. You make it so much simpler than what I've been doing with counting dots and half-cups and green speeds (and often missing anyway!) - I have a feeling I will be watching this video a few more times. Really appreciate it!
You got it sir!
@@Babzilla33 just one quick question to make sure I understand something: are you taking 25% off the distance on these putts to compensate for the 12-speed greens or not? Sometimes it seems you’re not…
I’m not taking anything off the distance with these putts. I calculate them all the same. What I’m simply doing is getting an idea of where my starting ram point is with the given distance/elevation, then make modifications to it depending on green speed and the extra 5% power in adding
@@Babzilla33 gotcha - that’s what I thought. Thanks again!
Fun chatting with you tonight!
This is exactly what I needed. I have missed so many short putts.
Thanks
Here for you brother!
Brilliant thanks Ross, as always clear and concise
Ty Steve. Keep up the strong work!
Great putting help here n in previous video. Great to have things explained in-depth thank you 🙏
Cheers mate 💪🏻
You know what screws me up? If I was calculating that Pebble Par 5 (10:56) - 6.1ft, down 3.4 in - I would take 6.1 - 3.4 = 2.7 then adjust for the green speed (x .75 for 12 spd) and get 2.025, which is only 13.5% of the 15 meter. Your initial number is just 2.7 (18% of 15 meter) then you ADD another 5%. Now wonder I'm always hitting beneath the break! Should I not be bothering with the .75 for 12s, .69 for 13s, etc?
Generally what my putt distance formula looks like is this:
(((7.9/green speed) x distance) + elevation) +2.1
This gives me a pretty firm putt % to start with. Because my mindset in this scenario is ramming, I choose to add the 5% power to the putt. However I have to understand that this will eliminate a good portion of the break.
So by learning the tendencies of the green over time, I can judge how much aim to reduce for the extra power. I’ve always been a firm putter because I don’t want the ball to fall in the hole, I want it to go 1-2 feet past if I miss. This allows me to utilize break and with the mindset of aiming on the high side, I can increase my odds of making putts.
@@Babzilla33 Thank you, sir. I will experiment with that. It will be interesting…
@@adamsasso1 Good luck champ!
I Truly love WGT Golfing and I love all these Videos. TY While all of this is over my head, I'm finally starting catching on your Off Ding Logic, and... I'm actually reading the green, before I shoot. (Wow) Your videos are always exceptional, with Amazing Graphics! // * Without being condescending * If you created a video about "opening a jar of peanut butter... " It would be enjoyable to watch)) 😀
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Another helpful video, thanks Ross.
Ty sir 💪🏻
Great vid and so simple to practice. Ty I struggle with aim badly.
Cheers mate!
Please excuse my ignorance but I am not familiar with how the adding or subtracting is giving you the break offset. With your technique how wide is a full grid?
I am essentially using JC Sneed values, where half a grid (first line) is 10, then full grid is 15.
This is a quick method of practicing short putts when someone doesn’t feel like counting dots. So I add the 2 values for downhill, and subtract for uphill. I make a final decision based on the line I see. Improving green knowledge is the key
@@Babzilla33 Thank you sir. So a half grid is 10” and full grid is 20”… a useful piece of information as I was under the impression a full grid was 24”. Thanks very much.
In terms of JC Sneed which is what I use, only the first line is 10. Then 1 full grid is 15 (aimer in the middle of the box to hole in the middle). Every subsequent “line” thereafter is 7.5. So it would go like this: 10,15,22.5,30,37.5,45,52.5,60.
Half, 1 grid, 1.5 grid, 2 grids etc etc
@@Babzilla33 Thank you, sir.
Good luck to you my good man!
Great informational video. Do you take the same approach with different speeds as well? Thanks again brother.
Different greens speed would require a slight variation. For instance I may add/subtract less elevation to/from the distance if the green speed is slower. So 12 greens with a 7ft down 2in putt would be “9” Jc sneed. But on 8-9 greens I would maybe only call it 7. The key factor is what your eyes begin to learn about the green and how it responses to the putt.
Hey babz. U might have already mentioned this but how are you so quick to know how much power to hit it!!?? I’m understanding where to aim but not power
Hey buddy. Are you referring to putting power or approach shot power?
@@Babzilla33 that would be putting power? Don’t u get that by distance then plus or minus elevation then times the green speed which tournament is .75 or do you get putting power another way?
This is the formula I use to get my adjusted distance. (((7.9/Green speed)* Distance)+ Elevation) + 2.1
Once you have that number, divide it into your putt meter increments and you'll have your power %. This can easily put into a sheet so every time you change the green speed, the power will change with it.
Another great video. Thanks
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Another great putting video.
Thanks again!
Great helpful vid Sir