Great job! The OTT swing has been working so far for me and my dad. We’ve been playing golf for more than 15 years and this is the first time that we’ve felt comfortable with our swings. It even works on my grandfather’s 2 iron with a very small clubface from the 60s that I would sometimes hit on the range. I noticed though that with my driver and woods that I would sometimes hook it with the OTT swing. Any advice on how to remove the hooks? Feel free not to answer. We’ve been watching your progress for years and just grateful for your content 👍🏼
I would suggest you move the ball forward in your stance and weaken your grip slightly. I discovered the same thing. Now, I'm patient on my transition and hit it nice and straight! Thanks for watching!!!
I was at Turnberry for the final practice day and the first round, when i returned home, i was watching on TV rooting for Tom to go on and win, one of the all time greats of gold, well liked and well respected by everyone, incidentally the full coverage of that epic day is on youtube if anyone wants to watch it, i truly believe you are on to something with the Ott swing, easier on the body, especially to a mid 60s senior golfer like me, and look at how long the careers of those players were, whereas so many of the modern players are out injured
Awesome video! One question I had was have you measured your club distances/dispersion with your new OTT swing vs your previous swing? I think it would be an amazing video to portray how you have improved distance and dispersion wise with all your clubs!!! Keep doing what you're doing man, love the content!
Nice job on the video and -yes - many greats swung/swing over the top. My favorite was Julius Boros but I watched Gene Littler a lot as a kid and had an over the top move. You nailed it with your comment about Watson attempting to mimic Jack's swing in the early seventies. In a an interview some years back he did mention that. Watson was 2 months shy of his 60th birthday when he nearly won the Open at Turnberry. Probably would have been the golfing equivalent of Bob Beamon's long jump in the '68 Mexico City Olympics when he broke the world record by 2 feet!
@@MiracleSwingExperience can't wait to try it. I'm an in to out swinger and have learned to let the knees buckle towards the target just like jack and tom, it's really the only way to try to maintain your balance when swinging out to the right with power. I'm hoping to make some changes now because I know there's no way to swing the way I do now as I get older.
Love this series and the content Christo! The fact is what you have presented goes against modern conventional wisdom of how most instructors teach the golf swing. Don't be discouraged by golf fanatics arguing semantics. The inside takeaway allows one to come over the backswing plane but not outside the intended swing plane. If people want to continue to swing straight back and drop it under, enjoy the moment at the end of the round when they open their wallets.
For Christo and whoever else is reading this and is a practitioner of this inside OTT swing: It “feels” OTT maybe because you’re swinging on the swing plane WITH the shoulders ON the swing plane. I note that the “examples” of the “inside OTT” swingers have their shoulders on plane in the hitting area (and before). So it’s a “shoulder turn on plane“ focused swing... and that might make you think of it as feeling OTT. Keeping your spine angle squared to the swing plane - at least at the upper back area - is more than half the battle.
Everyone hopefully can see what I'm showing and listen to how these legends of the game are describing it. Of course they aren't hitting chop slices. I'm not advocating that. I'm saying going over is easier for me than dropping under. That's all.
So what is the move on the downswing.... what is the swing thought? Is it tying the right arm to the front of the chest and rotating hard... is it making the hands go left.... what is the engine of the downswing move to make the swing go left?
With this OTT method, do you think a person can take it more to the inside on the backswing... ie... a shorter backswing with the left arm attached to the chest....if you know what I mean. Because I think you could be more consistent with your backswing position doing that.
I watched a couple Phil Mickelson swing analysis videos on TH-cam with this new insight. I think Phil might use the OTT swing with a low take away and steep going straight to the ball, however the TV commentators say this is bad in the video's. Also, I see people saying OTT is bad. I think OTT creates 1 -3 of the 9 possible shots possible in golf which is all you need to play golf and have fun. Its just easier on the body for a weekend warrior to use with increased accuracy. I am guessing the elite pros can do OTT or Modern Swing or the Trevino to get the ball flight they want under pressure. Tiger, Phil, Bubba...just masters at moving the ball right to left, left to right, up & down.
To me the most important part is making sure you stay connected. This is how I grew up swinging, pretty long back then. Now I'm athletic and can't hit it out of my shadow. I see the range in my near future.
I must admit reluctantly that I tried this at the range yesterday and just killed the ball. This stuff works. I just pulled it inside and rode my arms up in the air and just smashed down on the ball and yes...smash factor was high. This goes against all I've ever learned so it will be tough to make the switch.
9:23 I like how level his head stays on this swing. A lot of pros seem to squat quite a bit in the downswing and their head is lower at impact than it was at address. Watson shows here that the exaggerated squatting move is not necessary.
Great stuff Christo, your enthusiasm for the game is infectious! However I don't believe this is the 'secret' to golf, Tom Watson won loads of majors before discovering the secret??!! That's a hell of a bold claim my man!
I enjoyed seeing those classic swings from former greats. My favourite swing in the modern era is that of Rory McIlroy. Where in the spectrum do fellow golfers see Rory's swing? Is he OTT?
One could look at it like that, yes… but the main thing is making sure you’re slightly over the top of the backswing plane. Look up moe norman and watch how inside he takes it and then the hands go over and out to the ball to strike it. Almost like a golden loop swing
You say the pic of Jack from the 60s is better for stability...but ... didn't Nelson make the knees go more toward the target...and isn't the idea behind that to make the club extend down the line longer? So might that be why Nicklaus have changed?
hi a camera man who was near the back of the green on the 18th that day at the 2009 Open said as Tom's ball was about to strike the ground a strong gust of wind hit it !! hence it rolling just too far.
Christo, combining this move along with a float load has me swinging free and fast. I love the feeling of these two combined! Are you still considering yourself a “float loader?”
Seems like certain people are getting stuck on definitions and conflating path with OTT rather than the substance of the content. I say try it. If you like it, call it what you want.
I'm really surprised you've never looked at George Knudson. To me he's the antithesis of this back-breaking C-Shape finish, and yet "more Hogan than Hogan himself"
OTT is almost always causing slices. I would not class an inside to on-plane swing as OTT. A "real" OTT swing makes the swing path go (too much) left, and usually leads to a pull or slice depending on the face. If you would put the oldschool pga pros on trackman im pretty sure they all swing more or less within the optimal swing-path, and have the correct face to path. For example, with an OTT swing its almost impossible to hit a draw
So, Tom Watson is talking about his own swing but it's not "real" OTT? I just don't understand this thinking. I keep giving examples of major winners literally saying this but people are fighting it.
@@MiracleSwingExperience They may be saying it, but feel isn't always real. What @stuff is saying in his comment is that if you put these guys on trackman, you would see that they are probably not swinging over the optimal swing path (original plane) and are actually very close to it. Otherwise they would be hitting drastic pulls/slices because the swing path would be so far left. Just because you take your backswing deep to the inside and come over backswing path doesn't mean you are OTT. You still may be on plane. OTT doesn't mean you swing over your backswing path. I swing with the HANDS OTT of the backswing feeling because much like Tom Watson, I got tired of swinging out to "right field" and feeling stuck/flippy/blocked out. It's just a feeling though. If I actually swing drastically over the top, then my swing path goes too far left and I hit horrible slices and pulls. Look at these two images of Sam Snead. He literally returns the club to the original plane. He isn't OTT, it just looks that way because he takes it so far inside. ibb.co/748r5tK ibb.co/48SXTHg These images were taken from this video: th-cam.com/video/cBM0-HCCwwY/w-d-xo.html
@@Kevin-vn7mg Trackman measures path. I get that you're saying they are not "out to in" so bad that they slice it. But, these greats like Watson are literally saying "over the top" and people say it doesn't mean that. Tom Watson won 8 majors!
Yeah, well Jordan Spieth was making that practice swing at the Texas Valero Open last year and he almost lost the tournament doing it. Jordan has struggled severely ever since. Over the top is bad business.
That is precisely the misguided belief I am working very hard to transcend. I felt that way for decades and I admit I was wrong. You should get the OTT Miracle video and try it out for yourself!
An Ax moves with both arms chopping at a tree will not produce a good OTT swing at all. Christo is not teaching this as a famous You Tube instructor has taught his multiple task oriented golf for 11 years now.
I’ve watched your channel occasionally and haven’t watched all your videos. I don’t know if you have ever differentiated over the top with the hand path and over the top with the shaft path or plane? Seems like you are being dishonest to me!
You might as well say... Bobby Jones - invalid. Sam Snead - invalid. Arnold Palmer - invalid. Just look into it. Being immediately dismissive is by definition closed minded.
@@alanshinny4565 what secret devise of the pivot are you talking about? A pivot is an exchange of ground pressure between the golfers feet stepping with with one foot at its point of contact with the other foot at it point of contact to the ground. The golf swing is like walking only with one step. To walk forward with 2 steps you would have to do what Gary Player did after his swing stepping out of his golf shot. That perhaps is the secret of the pivot in which you speak. And if so the correct OTT swing that Christo and I now teach is part of the secret of the pivot of which you speak. Believe me it is not a fad and once golfers understand it better every golfer on earth will enjoy their game better. Cheers
Great job! The OTT swing has been working so far for me and my dad. We’ve been playing golf for more than 15 years and this is the first time that we’ve felt comfortable with our swings. It even works on my grandfather’s 2 iron with a very small clubface from the 60s that I would sometimes hit on the range. I noticed though that with my driver and woods that I would sometimes hook it with the OTT swing. Any advice on how to remove the hooks? Feel free not to answer. We’ve been watching your progress for years and just grateful for your content 👍🏼
I would suggest you move the ball forward in your stance and weaken your grip slightly. I discovered the same thing. Now, I'm patient on my transition and hit it nice and straight! Thanks for watching!!!
You just take it inside and swing OTT?
I was at Turnberry for the final practice day and the first round, when i returned home, i was watching on TV rooting for Tom to go on and win, one of the all time greats of gold, well liked and well respected by everyone, incidentally the full coverage of that epic day is on youtube if anyone wants to watch it, i truly believe you are on to something with the Ott swing, easier on the body, especially to a mid 60s senior golfer like me, and look at how long the careers of those players were, whereas so many of the modern players are out injured
Awesome video! One question I had was have you measured your club distances/dispersion with your new OTT swing vs your previous swing? I think it would be an amazing video to portray how you have improved distance and dispersion wise with all your clubs!!! Keep doing what you're doing man, love the content!
This is a great collection of past videos!!!! Fantastic.
Nice job on the video and -yes - many greats swung/swing over the top. My favorite was Julius Boros but I watched Gene Littler a lot as a kid and had an over the top move. You nailed it with your comment about Watson attempting to mimic Jack's swing in the early seventies. In a an interview some years back he did mention that. Watson was 2 months shy of his 60th birthday when he nearly won the Open at Turnberry. Probably would have been the golfing equivalent of Bob Beamon's long jump in the '68 Mexico City Olympics when he broke the world record by 2 feet!
Absolutely love how perfect Tom's balance is in those clips. Never once looks strained or out of balance
Agreed. I've found my balance is vastly improved since beginning this swing because my weight is moving more into my left heel after impact.
@@MiracleSwingExperience can't wait to try it. I'm an in to out swinger and have learned to let the knees buckle towards the target just like jack and tom, it's really the only way to try to maintain your balance when swinging out to the right with power. I'm hoping to make some changes now because I know there's no way to swing the way I do now as I get older.
@@kourt2469 Don't be afraid to test the waters. I was! I regret it now and I'm 53.
Love this series and the content Christo! The fact is what you have presented goes against modern conventional wisdom of how most instructors teach the golf swing. Don't be discouraged by golf fanatics arguing semantics. The inside takeaway allows one to come over the backswing plane but not outside the intended swing plane. If people want to continue to swing straight back and drop it under, enjoy the moment at the end of the round when they open their wallets.
I'm winning a lot more nowadays! It's like stealin'!
Thank you Tom Watson and thank you Christo Garcia! Great work on the swing!
Wow great video thank you Christo!
I appreciate it, Rick!
For Christo and whoever else is reading this and is a practitioner of this inside OTT swing: It “feels” OTT maybe because you’re swinging on the swing plane WITH the shoulders ON the swing plane. I note that the “examples” of the “inside OTT” swingers have their shoulders on plane in the hitting area (and before). So it’s a “shoulder turn on plane“ focused swing... and that might make you think of it as feeling OTT. Keeping your spine angle squared to the swing plane - at least at the upper back area - is more than half the battle.
Right. I'd say it's a down the line swing, DTL.
Everyone hopefully can see what I'm showing and listen to how these legends of the game are describing it. Of course they aren't hitting chop slices. I'm not advocating that. I'm saying going over is easier for me than dropping under. That's all.
This is gold
So what is the move on the downswing.... what is the swing thought? Is it tying the right arm to the front of the chest and rotating hard... is it making the hands go left.... what is the engine of the downswing move to make the swing go left?
With this OTT method, do you think a person can take it more to the inside on the backswing... ie... a shorter backswing with the left arm attached to the chest....if you know what I mean. Because I think you could be more consistent with your backswing position doing that.
Wish Watson would have won The Open that year, for golf history’s sake. Nothing against Stewart Sink, who is also a great Champion!
I watched a couple Phil Mickelson swing analysis videos on TH-cam with this new insight. I think Phil might use the OTT swing with a low take away and steep going straight to the ball, however the TV commentators say this is bad in the video's. Also, I see people saying OTT is bad. I think OTT creates 1 -3 of the 9 possible shots possible in golf which is all you need to play golf and have fun. Its just easier on the body for a weekend warrior to use with increased accuracy. I am guessing the elite pros can do OTT or Modern Swing or the Trevino to get the ball flight they want under pressure. Tiger, Phil, Bubba...just masters at moving the ball right to left, left to right, up & down.
To me the most important part is making sure you stay connected. This is how I grew up swinging, pretty long back then. Now I'm athletic and can't hit it out of my shadow. I see the range in my near future.
I must admit reluctantly that I tried this at the range yesterday and just killed the ball. This stuff works. I just pulled it inside and rode my arms up in the air and just smashed down on the ball and yes...smash factor was high. This goes against all I've ever learned so it will be tough to make the switch.
9:23 I like how level his head stays on this swing. A lot of pros seem to squat quite a bit in the downswing and their head is lower at impact than it was at address. Watson shows here that the exaggerated squatting move is not necessary.
Excellent stuff!
Thanks a lot, man.
Great stuff Christo, your enthusiasm for the game is infectious! However I don't believe this is the 'secret' to golf, Tom Watson won loads of majors before discovering the secret??!! That's a hell of a bold claim my man!
I enjoyed seeing those classic swings from former greats. My favourite swing in the modern era is that of Rory McIlroy. Where in the spectrum do fellow golfers see Rory's swing? Is he OTT?
Define Over the Top as you see it: Is it as you said, "getting the arms in front of you" basically not getting the club stuck behind?
One could look at it like that, yes… but the main thing is making sure you’re slightly over the top of the backswing plane. Look up moe norman and watch how inside he takes it and then the hands go over and out to the ball to strike it. Almost like a golden loop swing
You say the pic of Jack from the 60s is better for stability...but ... didn't Nelson make the knees go more toward the target...and isn't the idea behind that to make the club extend down the line longer? So might that be why Nicklaus have changed?
hi a camera man who was near the back of the green on the 18th that day at the 2009 Open said as Tom's ball was about to strike the ground a strong gust of wind hit it !! hence it rolling just too far.
Hi Christo. Have you yet featured Corey Pavin ?
Not yet. Next week hopefully!
Fabulous. Thank you. OTT is da way !
@@paulyandle6081 Haha. This is the way.
It's not over the top they just don't drop it excessively under or shallow out out as much which allows the club to not get stuck anymore.
allows the dominant side to get in the swing
Agreed. It allows many good things to happen naturally.
Christo, combining this move along with a float load has me swinging free and fast. I love the feeling of these two combined! Are you still considering yourself a “float loader?”
You know, I have tried the float load with this swing and it's scary how the ball zips off the face. I need to revisit it!
Seems like certain people are getting stuck on definitions and conflating path with OTT rather than the substance of the content. I say try it. If you like it, call it what you want.
I wouldn’t call it stuck on definitions but more like the wrong definition. It’s should be hands over the top of the back swing plane.
@@maeu59 No, I'm going to call it what Tom Watson said, "over the top".
@@MiracleSwingExperience fine with me.
@@MiracleSwingExperience Jim Mclean too.
*Look into Porzak golf channel*
Okay will do.
@@MiracleSwingExperience Adam is the one to get into contact with.
How about Scotty Scheffler.
Tiger does that with his practice swing before teeing off.
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I'm really surprised you've never looked at George Knudson. To me he's the antithesis of this back-breaking C-Shape finish, and yet "more Hogan than Hogan himself"
His video on Knudson m.th-cam.com/video/Hd0MKiW7XQo/w-d-xo.html
As usual the brief time Watson spent with Mac Ogrady is never mentioned.
OTT is almost always causing slices. I would not class an inside to on-plane swing as OTT. A "real" OTT swing makes the swing path go (too much) left, and usually leads to a pull or slice depending on the face. If you would put the oldschool pga pros on trackman im pretty sure they all swing more or less within the optimal swing-path, and have the correct face to path.
For example, with an OTT swing its almost impossible to hit a draw
So, Tom Watson is talking about his own swing but it's not "real" OTT? I just don't understand this thinking. I keep giving examples of major winners literally saying this but people are fighting it.
Isn’t OTT when the right shoulder goes out and not down. An inside and over the backswing plane is not necessarily OTT.
@@MiracleSwingExperience They may be saying it, but feel isn't always real. What @stuff is saying in his comment is that if you put these guys on trackman, you would see that they are probably not swinging over the optimal swing path (original plane) and are actually very close to it. Otherwise they would be hitting drastic pulls/slices because the swing path would be so far left.
Just because you take your backswing deep to the inside and come over backswing path doesn't mean you are OTT. You still may be on plane. OTT doesn't mean you swing over your backswing path.
I swing with the HANDS OTT of the backswing feeling because much like Tom Watson, I got tired of swinging out to "right field" and feeling stuck/flippy/blocked out. It's just a feeling though. If I actually swing drastically over the top, then my swing path goes too far left and I hit horrible slices and pulls.
Look at these two images of Sam Snead. He literally returns the club to the original plane. He isn't OTT, it just looks that way because he takes it so far inside.
ibb.co/748r5tK
ibb.co/48SXTHg
These images were taken from this video:
th-cam.com/video/cBM0-HCCwwY/w-d-xo.html
@@maeu59 I don't want my right shoulder to dip under. It's simply going over the backswing plane.
@@Kevin-vn7mg Trackman measures path. I get that you're saying they are not "out to in" so bad that they slice it. But, these greats like Watson are literally saying "over the top" and people say it doesn't mean that. Tom Watson won 8 majors!
Yeah, well Jordan Spieth was making that practice swing at the Texas Valero Open last year and he almost lost the tournament doing it. Jordan has struggled severely ever since. Over the top is bad business.
That is precisely the misguided belief I am working very hard to transcend. I felt that way for decades and I admit I was wrong. You should get the OTT Miracle video and try it out for yourself!
An Ax moves with both arms chopping at a tree will not produce a good OTT swing at all. Christo is not teaching this as a famous You Tube instructor has taught his multiple task oriented golf for 11 years now.
I’ve watched your channel occasionally and haven’t watched all your videos. I don’t know if you have ever differentiated over the top with the hand path and over the top with the shaft path or plane? Seems like you are being dishonest to me!
Jack’s swing looks ugly AF, but damn was he effective
Invalid
That is still manipulation. Invalid. Sounds great because it's t Watson
You might as well say... Bobby Jones - invalid. Sam Snead - invalid. Arnold Palmer - invalid. Just look into it. Being immediately dismissive is by definition closed minded.
@@alanshinny4565 what secret devise of the pivot are you talking about? A pivot is an exchange of ground pressure between the golfers feet stepping with with one foot at its point of contact with the other foot at it point of contact to the ground. The golf swing is like walking only with one step. To walk forward with 2 steps you would have to do what Gary Player did after his swing stepping out of his golf shot.
That perhaps is the secret of the pivot in which you speak. And if so the correct OTT swing that Christo and I now teach is part of the secret of the pivot of which you speak. Believe me it is not a fad and once golfers understand it better every golfer on earth will enjoy their game better. Cheers
@@MiracleSwingExperience is it OTT if they are still coming into the ball from the inside?
TW was my boy when we hacked around around Little Cypress.......I remember our buddy JJ had more of a Furyk move - before it was cool.
Haha. I was into Nicklaus. JJ had a lot of speed with that move! But, it bent a lot to the right.