Brock PaverBase DIY Patio Project
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- Brock PaverBase Panels have revolutionized the way contractors and do-it-yourself'ers install paver patios and paver walkways. This video shows a great example of how you can transform your backyard into your dream living space.
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The Brock PaverBase works perfectly in Houston over crap clay. I am on my third paver project today at my residence in Houston. My first project was 2 years ago, over 30' long and 5 feet wide and looks as good today as the day I laid the stones over Brock PaverBase with sand.
Hi. I also live in Houston and have cheap, dying st. Augustine grass over clay in my back yard.
Any pointers or resources I can follow?
Company claims that it replaces 5 bags of base (200 pounds) but with sand being $5/0.5-cu ft bag these days I have to question the savings with $13 2x3 panels. The drainage through limited holes is also very questionable. Not arguing that it is easier to level however compacting sand becomes crucial and a compactor may be needed. See benefits of better weed control though
its going to replace the 4" of base material (High Performance Base, 3/4 minus, etc) that you would normally put under a pedestrian-traffic paver area. it's not just the cost of the material, its the labor to pick up large quantities of base (usually a trailer and buying a yard at a time from a stone/gravel supply yard), and then the labor of moving that from the trailer to the project area, then spreading, then compacting in 2" layers at a time...vs leveling your ground, rolling geotextile, spreading sand, and snapping 3x2 panels together. If you are doing DIY and price your time at $0 you may not see a cost difference...
I'm using this on clay soil, after screeding 1/2" of leveling sand, watering the sand for cohesion, hand-tamping it with a 10lb hand tamper, then adding a bit more sand to cover in the spots left by the tamper and screeding again...placing like 4 panels and 2 (large) pavers and testing, I noticed there's a little give to the pavers when I walk on them. I don't know if this is normal or expected.
I was confused about the paver edger in the video it was put above the panel would the sand under the panel be able to move away then?
What about any air pockets under the paver panels?
I assume it's pretty impossible for them to all lay perfectly flat on the sand. ??
You shouldn't have any pockets under the panel. If you properly compacted and leveled under it, you should be sitting flat. Any curve in the panel material should be corrected by the weight of when you start laying pavers.
Should’ve tamped it before laying the Brock panels
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Great information and very helpful.
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I’m installing 16” paver stones in a channel 10 ft x 18” over a concrete cut out that’s 4” deep. Stones are 1 1/2 “ thick. Do I still need a sand base on top of the concrete base? 😮
I think the sand is just for leveling. If the concrete is flat probably shouldn’t be an issue.
I also want to extend my patio and cover existing with pavers. Did you only put those panels over the new part of the patio, not over exiting cement? Did you just put those panels level with the old patio? Do you need to compact sand prior to laying panels?
I really wish someone would answer this question. I have the same one!
Any tips on what kind of sand to use? Any particular brand?
Did you put the Brock Paverbase on the existing concrete slab? Did you do anything else to prep the concrete slab?
I put sand down, but wondered if it was needed since the base was concrete and not going to sink in the ground, and the paver base would be on top.
I'm confused about how to create a slope. I know it needs to be about 1/4 inch per foot away from the structure. But do you create the slope when digging and tamping the soil, or when laying the sand?
Probably a slope when digging, and then you'd just need an even layer of sand over the dirt.
Get a four foot level, tape a one on block to the bottom of the level on the far side. The block sits downslope and the normal edge sits up. If the bubble is in the center of the two indicators or slightly above the indicator on the upslope, you know you have a downward slope. The measure every four feet depending on length.
How level does the ground need to be before putting down leveling sand?
close doesn't have to be perfect.
What is the long term stability of this product on sandy loam using small pavers? Do we need weed barrier installed under the sand?
Yes, the weed barrier is to retain the sand
Anyone have experience using the brock panels on clay soil? Is it still holding up? Also, my understanding is that gravel used under pavers not only provides strong foundation, but also helps with drainage.... would the soil under brock remain wet.... drainage?
Thanks in advance for your input.
using these panels assumes you already have a normal draining area. Your job is to level and compact to add stability. The pannels are large enough that downward force is spread out and won't move the pavers. Border provides prevention for lateral movement. As long as your area is level and free of draining issues currently, and you follow the steps installing, your drainage should be fine.
Nice video. How perfect should the ground leveling be before adding the sand ,? Will sand adjust for any little imperfections in the base. My base is level but some light does pass under the level when I check
The ground level will be your rough in. Get it relatively smooth but it won't be perfect. Sand is very good at self leveling so it will fill in imperfections when you level it out to the grade you want
yes!
Nice easy video 👍🏼 I have a question, can paver base be layed on the concrete slab? I have a walkway that’s uneven and I was wondering if I can put a thin layer of sand before laying pavers down? Thanks again! 👍🏼
The problem with this is what caused your concrete to get out of level in the first place? You are covering a problem up if you do it that way and it will transfer to the hard work you put into your new project too. So much of these pannels' success lies on just how well the foundation is under.
You should be fine as long as you fill any cracks in the concrete with sealant to prevent the sand from being washed out from under your pavers
I have 400 sq ft pavers in backyard, but the previous owner made some strange pattern that I don't like, and it grows moss, so I wanna pave again. My question is, can I use this on the old pavers directly?
Can you use the base for an above ground swimming pool
So people have been laying pavers directly on sand for years now, what is the benefit of using these Brock paver bases??
The 4” of gravel at the bottom is no longer needed. Which is a huge step that costs a lot of money and time since it has to be compacted too.
Does it matter what type of leveling sand you use? Lowe's has two types that both say are used for a base when installing pavers. One looks more coarse, one more fine. Which do you use?
leveling Sam's?
@@bonsummers2657 sand haha. Must have auto corrected and I never noticed.
both are fine
How can I anchor a gazebo down if I use this paver base?
Get a gazebo that’s bigger than your patio and anchor it to the ground.
If it’s huge and you can’t… 🤷🏾♂️ I’m not sure if you can lag it to the pavers without them cracking. I’m no pro. I’m watching a DIY video.
@@40_40_Vision Thanks
How deep do I have to dig dirt , to level & put weed material ? How thick is the sand to be ?
The sand needs to be 1/4 to 1/2 inch per their instructions
You will want to do some math for your paver width and how high you want your pavers to sit relative to what's next to it (grass, mulch, rocks, etc.).
Would this be sufficient enough to act as a floor for a 10x10 shed?
I'm about to use this under some larger pavers for an 8x10 shed. If you come back in like 2 weeks I'll be able to tell you if it worked. I just did the majority of the dirt leveling today and will be doing the sand and everything tomorrow. My total area will be 11x13 to accommodate the shed with some additional space on two sides by my fence
so how did it work out a year later? everything still square and level at the edges? no sinking or settling at the edges that you can see?@@Paintplayer1
how deep did you dig?
20
For anyone doing this you need to run a plate compactor over the pavers when sweeping in the sand. You will not have a complete full of the joints and the polymeric sand will not set correctly.
Brock’s how-to instructions on their website say, “DO NOT USE A PLATE COMPACTOR TO VIBRATE THE PAVERS!”
@@alishasouslesoleil you are exactly right, in the video the person is stepping on individual pavers on their toes to compact the sand.
Don't do this- their manual says two times in bold lettering "DO NOT USE A PLATE COMPACTOR TO VIBRATE THE PAVERS"
how thick a is the sand base? 2 inches? 4 inches? 6 inches?
0.5 inch sand base for under the Brock paver base panels.
@@lynnem909 do you tamp the 1/2" sand base prior to laying the panels or just level the sand and lay panels on top?
@@cvelli1312 just level and lay
What is the point of these panels if you still need to use sand...Waste of money and no thank you
It eliminates having to have a 6 inch gravel base which is a bitch to dig by hand, nevermind the tons of gravel needed.
Can you pour concrete over this ?
I wouldn't think so, it drains
Doesn't look like you really save any labor. Your still putting down sand and leveling it
You don't have to dig 6+ inches down and then fill that with gravel base and compact it. It saves a ton of labor... but these panels are very expensive for what they are. But I guess it's the price you pay to save your back. Although I am doing a 12' x 12' patio using these and my back is still sore from taking up sod, digging, and bending over 600 times a day.
Saving the labor of hauling 200lbs of base rock per panel.
Looks faster. Worth it IMO.