Light is contextual for us so I get it. Shame I just often pick the wrong colors. Gotta work on that. Thanks, this is just in time for me to work on my norse bloodbowl team.
I was challenged in my thinking here. I am installing some shelves to get more desk space today. After I do that, I will have to think about this. Good video for a cold winter's day.
I'm not a great painter or anything, but I wanted to observe on “night/winter” as a category. Moonlight is very desaturating (because your colour sense starts to turn off below a certain illumination level-there are actually some colours one can see at dusk that don't really exist in full daylight, even though the moon may still cast quite sharp shadows), and English winters have very grey and diffuse light. But _Canadian_ winters have super high contrast, painfully sharp specularities, and an abundance of blue both downwards from the sky and upwards from the snow, because the air humidity is essentially zero and the snow is really reflective when the temperature drops below -20. The sun angle may be very low, but there's no process making it kinder. So … maybe not the same situation. And the video, as always, is fantastically instructive.
Great video that really sheds some light on shadowy highlights. The colors and tone would be perfect for Genestealers too. Gives me something to think about.
Great video, the blue green turguise tip was a God send, you've helped me with an issue with my lord veritants Cape I had painted purple. Thanks for that heads up.
Please Please Please Vince and Jon you need to do a new channel that is just the two of you trash talking each other over Zoom while you paint minis. Every time there is footage of just the two of you together, lovingly tearing strips off each other, it’s absolutely hilarious and engaging. I would 100% click bells and dings on that channel
With cool light covered by the NMM and matte fabrics, what might "hot" shadows look like? Would it be something along the lines of a mind melting concept from a Wappel of internal lighting or does hot always equate to OSL like torchlight?
Depends if you mean, hot or warm like in moonlight you will have warm shadows. That’s just slightly red infused if you’re talking about actual hot where there’s a glow then that could be because there’s a bounce light or secondary light on a reflective surface or just something motivating that light but if there’s truly nothing there then yeah I’d be some kind of glow
you know my theory is that cool colors have a negative emotional affect (like the minor key in music), a warm red can be passion but a cold red is anger (a negative emotion), blue can be calm if its warm and like a deep sea at sunset or sad if its cold. green can be natural if its warm but envious and malicious if cold. its just like music theory.
"I look forward to seeing you fail across it" hahaha, Vince, you're the best! Edit: Jon, I believe you will fail beautifully across it! Edit 2: Well done Jon! I didn't realize you completed your video on it 2 weeks ago...
Vince, please, PLEASE don't take this the wrong way, but until now I had not EVER seen you painting works, and I gave for granted (MY BAD) that you were a very clever guy, with absolutely great hobby cheating videos, giving really good and useful advice (I can't tell you how many of your videos have contributed to making me a better painter), and on top of all, a good guy, BUT maybe not a top-notch painter. I was wrong. Your brush control has made me stop de video to write this comment, your painting talent is beyond belief, and I was in awe when I saw the elf. You're incredibly brilliant, not only as a "teacher" for our hobby, also as a painter. You really ARE a top-notch painter. Sorry for not having noticed that before, I should have searched for samples of your amazing work. This said, also thanks for this video. I wouldn't ever dare to use turquoise to highlight purple, in my mind that just does not work. Until I saw what you did. Oh, my, I don't know if I will ever be able to put into action like 1% of what I've learned from your videos 😂 Thanks for all the help you give and for sharing your immense talent. As soon as I have the time I'll watch part 1 of the painting process of the Dark Elf. Insanely amazing job, Vince. You're great 😊
I don’t take offense at all. It’s hard honestly to show your best work when making videos. The reality is when you’re doing a lot of very careful detail work. It’s very slow. It’s very time-consuming. It’s very fiddly and so it’s not something that really goes on camera so I will often try to teach little lessons that will help you build up to that high-level display work, but it is very hard. And to be honest about my own place on my journey, I still feel I have a lot of room to grow in advance. That’s the whole fun of the hobby. It is an infinite learning journey.
@@VinceVenturella , looking at your work, it's hard to think you can be even better, but I understand what you say, and yes, there's always room for growing. Thanks for your reply, you really are a great guy. Thanks for everything you teach on your channel, and keep the good work 😊
What's the benefit of using the ice yellow on the back versus say a ak pastel blue or similar tone in your moonlight setting? Thanks for the informative video
I still want a little white light in the steel since it would go specular and that can help capture that color shift in a way that just pushing it into higher value blue wouldn’t necessarily do it shifts at a little more toward the white, but still keeps it cold because if it’s mixed with the other cold tones
Sure, 100% you would just go for more darker reds and you would integrate in those same kind of blue white or similar tones very lightly which is gonna make it push into a sort of pink purple but you want to use that very lightly so you rely on having small volume highlights, and deep shadows
Hey Vince, need some vibrant popping purples for my LRL army. Can you recommend any? My usual go to is Monument as well as Game Air Alien purple. Looking to do something different.
Have you done, or could you do, a video on undercoating for speed/contrast/xpress paints? I see Ninjon do stuff like it all the time, and you’ve talked about similar concepts in the past (like how black paint is actually a really very extra dark blue and that is why yellow speed paints look green and not yellow). You don’t want him to continue being my favorite TH-cam mini painter do you? Do you?
If you mean, varying your undercoat so that it works the best with different sort of speed, paint tones, and temperatures. Yes, I have done many videos on those. They’re all in the playlist if you just generally search for anything with speed painting in the title or speed in the title you’ll find all of them. I don’t specifically have a speed painting playlist, though that might be a good idea.
I’m confused about the front part- is the bluegreen on the front supposed to be a cold light reflecting on the purple armor or is the armor partially actually bluegreen?
I just got back into warhammer/painting minis, I used to as a kid with my dad. Finding your channel has helped me so much. You're amazing! :)
Glad to hear it!
Always love seeing an old vet like you, giving a young upstart a chance. Hope that Jon guy doesn’t disappoint.
Light is contextual for us so I get it. Shame I just often pick the wrong colors. Gotta work on that. Thanks, this is just in time for me to work on my norse bloodbowl team.
Perfect timing 👌 also I can’t believe we are at 480 hobby cheats
@@bitflipped Indeed, quite sophisticated my good Sir.
I know!!
More great insight. Thanks, Vince!
I was challenged in my thinking here. I am installing some shelves to get more desk space today. After I do that, I will have to think about this. Good video for a cold winter's day.
Love the snark you and Jon has going on :D
I'm not a great painter or anything, but I wanted to observe on “night/winter” as a category. Moonlight is very desaturating (because your colour sense starts to turn off below a certain illumination level-there are actually some colours one can see at dusk that don't really exist in full daylight, even though the moon may still cast quite sharp shadows), and English winters have very grey and diffuse light. But _Canadian_ winters have super high contrast, painfully sharp specularities, and an abundance of blue both downwards from the sky and upwards from the snow, because the air humidity is essentially zero and the snow is really reflective when the temperature drops below -20. The sun angle may be very low, but there's no process making it kinder. So … maybe not the same situation.
And the video, as always, is fantastically instructive.
Sounds like some aspects of aurora green and turquoise might be at play. It'd be neat to see this.
Super cool video thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video that really sheds some light on shadowy highlights.
The colors and tone would be perfect for Genestealers too.
Gives me something to think about.
Great video, the blue green turguise tip was a God send, you've helped me with an issue with my lord veritants Cape I had painted purple. Thanks for that heads up.
Great to hear!
12:22 best dialog 😂
Thanx Vince
My pleasure!
You are the goat, sir!
Much appreciated!
Think I’m gonna try that scheme on my next figure. Have never done it before, but time to venture out of the comfort zone.
That's really... COOL!
Hahaha.
Thanks Vince!!! Now I have to go watch John fail his way to sucess!! 😂
Please Please Please Vince and Jon you need to do a new channel that is just the two of you trash talking each other over Zoom while you paint minis. Every time there is footage of just the two of you together, lovingly tearing strips off each other, it’s absolutely hilarious and engaging. I would 100% click bells and dings on that channel
With cool light covered by the NMM and matte fabrics, what might "hot" shadows look like? Would it be something along the lines of a mind melting concept from a Wappel of internal lighting or does hot always equate to OSL like torchlight?
Depends if you mean, hot or warm like in moonlight you will have warm shadows. That’s just slightly red infused if you’re talking about actual hot where there’s a glow then that could be because there’s a bounce light or secondary light on a reflective surface or just something motivating that light but if there’s truly nothing there then yeah I’d be some kind of glow
I don t know why, but your love for painting is overwhelming.
you know my theory is that cool colors have a negative emotional affect (like the minor key in music), a warm red can be passion but a cold red is anger (a negative emotion), blue can be calm if its warm and like a deep sea at sunset or sad if its cold. green can be natural if its warm but envious and malicious if cold.
its just like music theory.
My fiancee and I also used dog pee pads as mats when we had friends over for a painting session! Great minds think alike.
Hey Vince, thanks for these weekly videos. I've been going through the backlog and was curious when/where you're doing your next painting class?
I think Adepticon is the next time I’m teaching as of right now
"I look forward to seeing you fail across it"
hahaha, Vince, you're the best!
Edit: Jon, I believe you will fail beautifully across it!
Edit 2: Well done Jon! I didn't realize you completed your video on it 2 weeks ago...
Yeah, the timing didn't totally work out there. :) - But he got there. ;)
Vince, please, PLEASE don't take this the wrong way, but until now I had not EVER seen you painting works, and I gave for granted (MY BAD) that you were a very clever guy, with absolutely great hobby cheating videos, giving really good and useful advice (I can't tell you how many of your videos have contributed to making me a better painter), and on top of all, a good guy, BUT maybe not a top-notch painter. I was wrong. Your brush control has made me stop de video to write this comment, your painting talent is beyond belief, and I was in awe when I saw the elf. You're incredibly brilliant, not only as a "teacher" for our hobby, also as a painter. You really ARE a top-notch painter. Sorry for not having noticed that before, I should have searched for samples of your amazing work.
This said, also thanks for this video. I wouldn't ever dare to use turquoise to highlight purple, in my mind that just does not work. Until I saw what you did. Oh, my, I don't know if I will ever be able to put into action like 1% of what I've learned from your videos 😂
Thanks for all the help you give and for sharing your immense talent. As soon as I have the time I'll watch part 1 of the painting process of the Dark Elf. Insanely amazing job, Vince. You're great 😊
I don’t take offense at all. It’s hard honestly to show your best work when making videos. The reality is when you’re doing a lot of very careful detail work. It’s very slow. It’s very time-consuming. It’s very fiddly and so it’s not something that really goes on camera so I will often try to teach little lessons that will help you build up to that high-level display work, but it is very hard. And to be honest about my own place on my journey, I still feel I have a lot of room to grow in advance. That’s the whole fun of the hobby. It is an infinite learning journey.
@@VinceVenturella , looking at your work, it's hard to think you can be even better, but I understand what you say, and yes, there's always room for growing. Thanks for your reply, you really are a great guy. Thanks for everything you teach on your channel, and keep the good work 😊
Good morning, everybody!
What's the benefit of using the ice yellow on the back versus say a ak pastel blue or similar tone in your moonlight setting? Thanks for the informative video
I still want a little white light in the steel since it would go specular and that can help capture that color shift in a way that just pushing it into higher value blue wouldn’t necessarily do it shifts at a little more toward the white, but still keeps it cold because if it’s mixed with the other cold tones
@@VinceVenturella thank you for the detailed answer, stellar as always vince!
In my wildest dreams I would never imagine having a hobby space that huge that is FULLY CARPETED 🤯
for a warm tone color: try kislev flesh
Is it possible to apply this scheme for red armor on a snowy base? Or some other colors needed. Thank you for your vids Vince!
Sure, 100% you would just go for more darker reds and you would integrate in those same kind of blue white or similar tones very lightly which is gonna make it push into a sort of pink purple but you want to use that very lightly so you rely on having small volume highlights, and deep shadows
Speaking of moonlight that hobby cheating about moonlight was great
Thanks!
Hey Vince, need some vibrant popping purples for my LRL army. Can you recommend any? My usual go to is Monument as well as Game Air Alien purple. Looking to do something different.
Royal purple is generally my go from Pro Acryl, I did make the color. :)
@@VinceVenturella thanks Vince!
👍👍👍
Have you done, or could you do, a video on undercoating for speed/contrast/xpress paints? I see Ninjon do stuff like it all the time, and you’ve talked about similar concepts in the past (like how black paint is actually a really very extra dark blue and that is why yellow speed paints look green and not yellow). You don’t want him to continue being my favorite TH-cam mini painter do you? Do you?
If you mean, varying your undercoat so that it works the best with different sort of speed, paint tones, and temperatures. Yes, I have done many videos on those. They’re all in the playlist if you just generally search for anything with speed painting in the title or speed in the title you’ll find all of them. I don’t specifically have a speed painting playlist, though that might be a good idea.
I’m confused about the front part- is the bluegreen on the front supposed to be a cold light reflecting on the purple armor or is the armor partially actually bluegreen?
Are you talking about the steel on the front? That is still going to have some blue tones, but it gets warmer in the lights.
Do you have big plans for HC 500? It's not far off!
10 hrs How to paint Purple Masterclass?
It’s not that far away I guess we’ll see exactly what happens ;)
The infamous Cold shoulder. I feel like this technique may come naturally to my Fiance.Thanks for the video!
Glad it was helpful!
Pickels?
didnt john "stole" this mini from you? he told us that, it was fake news 😦
He’s a tricky one.