Is the 2022 Subaru WRX GT automatic a BETTER performance car than an Elantra N?
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- The ALL NEW WRX GT is here and Subaru has done something different for the top trim. On the outside you will find all new sheet metal, unique 18in wheels, and trunk lid spoiler. On the inside you will be welcomed by Recaro seats, flat-bottom steering wheel and 11.6in infotainment system. Under the hood is a 2.4L turbocharged flat-4 that produces 271HP & is mated to a Subaru Performance Transmission. Is the 2022 Subaru WRX GT automatic a BETTER performance car than an Elantra N?
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I'm in a CVT WRX Facebook page and there are tons of people who have bought the 2022 model and they love it. Case in point: if you want one, buy one. Simple. Fuck everyone who says shit about the SPT. Yes it's an automatic. Big deal. Get over yourselves. I plan on getting this hopefully after I pay off my Civic.
His face was so unimpressed off the line 😂. But for real another great vid! It was cool to see someone experience the “auto” version as I have never driven one nor has anyone I know.
I couldn’t hide it! Thanks for letting me share it with you.
at least he tried to say some nice things about it lol
@@basedSTi it’s all about the balance.
@@chrisg5101 whatever floats your boat buddy 💀
@@chrisg5101 Forget the 87 octane excuse. These need to be modded and tuned put out ok power. 270 crank is nothing
Joe’s face @ 18:26 is the same disappointed face my dad had that one time I brought home a report card full of C and D’s. I’m sorry I let you down Joe!
You just made me freaking laugh!
I was thinking the same thing he almost cried haha
The plastic rear bumper is inexcusable and a crime against humanity.
I feel your pain!
The rear bumper is bad
Revenge for Hiroshima . They build us up, hype the redesign , then annihilate our dreams.
They’re all plastic these days.
@@shredblue8536 FACTSSS
The whole car is a zonk Joe! Love to binge ur vids. Merry Christmas!
Thanks for always tuning in! Merry Christmas!
The look on your face when you first accelerated told the full story on the new duller WRX
Hey Joe, first off I love your videos my man. Secondly I have to correct you on always zonking front fake vents for not being functional, in fact they are quite functional…….at decreasing aero 😂. But yeah I don’t know why these manufacturers always put in fake vents.
You are freaking hilarious!
Hey joe, I got a Veloster n a couple months ago and your reviews helped me make my choice! I couldn’t be happier with the car.
Bruh I'm about to cop one or the 86, idk which to choose!
@@homelackin2234 both are fantastic cars man. The 86 is just a little bit more chill
@@homelackin2234 If you want speed and fun, go Veloster N man. The 86 is a well balanced car that is great for technical tracks but if you're just mostly on public roads and driving in a straight line, the 86 is boring as hell to drive.
The STI will forever be missed.
Is coming back, not dead like the evo.
they remove the rumble in 2015. turn it into a plastic crosstrek in 2022 but make it stronger than an sti. delete the sti. what the hell is next
@@absolutelyfailz4480 I'm guessing some kind of hybrid and a full electric since the FA24 is already about to be out regulated in the EU.
At $45k, that's a tough sell for me. I have owned about 15 Subarus, I got tired of the oil leaks. I used to think I needed awd here in Ohio, but then I found Michelin winter tires.
Good call man! What are you driving now?
@@ChrisPBacon198 prices are out of control!
Holy crap, what is Subaru smoking. That's way overpriced.
Even the WRX STI back in 2021 was a tough sell for me at 40K. Now they're asking 45K for an inferior trim. I'll stick with my 2023 1SS I got at MSRP very luckily
Isn't type R MSRP 45k as well? And this is just a CVT WRX. My god.
This seems like it was geared for people who loved their previous WRX or STIs but are now older and no longer want to deal with a manual. Still rocking my older GR Hatch and I'm convinced that the 08-14 model was the last best WRX/STI we're gonna get before things go electric. Great review as always, hope y'all had a good New Years!
I could not imagine enjoying a CVT. I have an 05 STI that I take out in the summer, and a DCT Veloster N for all season driving/dailying. The DCT is awesome, and I can throw it into manual shift mode and paddle shift or rally shift it with the stick and I get amazing response times and hard shifts on that kind of transmission. You just don't get that kind of feedback with the CVT.
Listen to this man.. He knows his stuff. I had to get rid of my maxima since the cvt was horrible and is known for their reliability issues. I havent driven an automatic wrx so i dont know how good the subaru cvts are but yeah cvts on performance cars is a horrible idea. I am currently driving the stinger and even though the torque converter is nowhere near the performance level as the dcts in the N cars, its sooo much better than the CVT
My parents have a Subaru Ascent and recent Crosstrek, both with CVTs and they aren't as bad as people make it out to be (at least to me). Obviously doesn't compare to a DCT, but makes for a good daily or long trip car. My parents are in their mid 60s though, so understandable they prefer the more comfy transmission.
Manual is the only way for me if it's a sporty car, otherwise I'm likely going to get an electric car if/when my WRX dies.
CVT's will cost a lot more to maintain and service in the longterm, than the manual. I'll stick with the 3pedals, until its gone from the lineup.
no no. These were made for people that never had a WRX and are now 45 yrs old and think this is a WRX. It isnt.
Great review joe! I have seen these with the black panels painted body color and they look awesome! Two things have gotten out of control with this car: the weight and the price. They are asking CTR money
Ya for 43k there is so many better options . That price is ridiculous
"gone are the days of that raw raw feeling" truer words couldnt be said.
They're smart using the Recaro seats and Alcantara in only the automatic GT model as a selling point. I actually don't mind the fender trim but the rear bumper looks a mess when not color matched.
That a group of professional designers sat down in multiple meetings, went through multiple sketches, designs, and models, and ultimately came up with this, is beyond me. It's like Subaru hired an outside design team who had absolutely no idea what a WRX used to be. It's like they hired the Family Dollar to design an Italian suit. And then, to make matters even worse, Subaru's OWN PEOPLE decided to finally put adaptive suspension technology in a vehicle and then made it CVT only! This car was built by accountants, not engineers, and certainly not Subaru enthusiasts.
fun fact, the head designer for wrx/sti left subaru sometime around 2014..
I have a 2022 wrx base with the cvt. I have never driven another car with a cvt but ive driven go karts and rzrs with them so I can asume how a cvt car would feel and the wrxs cvt is really interesting. Everyone clowned on the "Subaru Performance Transmission" but it really is cool as it imitates the feel of a manual in sport# mode complete with engine braking. It automatically turns off the fake shifting when your flooring it, but the fake gears really shine with the paddle shifters.
Would be cool to see some "on-throttle" dragy numbers in future videos 🤔
Been waiting for this one Joe!!!! I hope you still have the Type Ra, loved all those videos!
I hope it was worth the wait! I sure do!
I have a Subaru BRZ 2013 and Skoda Octavia RS wagon, both great cars in their own right. I test drove an Elantra N DCT Premium. The Elantra N is a very impressive bit of kit. I test drove the last generation WRX with the CVT. It was pretty good, but not good enough to best the Skoda at the time. Haven’t had a chance to drive the latest, but can’t imagine it’s going to be better than that weapon from Hyundai.
I totally agree with you Ben!
For the fenders and the rear bumper you can purchase aftermarket painted fender flares and there are painted pieces you can purchase for the back bumper or take it to your local body shop and they'll hook you up.
Great review as always. I just couldn't do it because of the cvt. I really am not a fan of cvt transmissions.
Trust me I know how you feel!
Would like to see you test it on a bumpier road with those different adoptive suspension settings...
Until Subaru stops try to make CVT's happen on their entire lineup. You basically either buy the manual gearbox, or go grab any other performance sedan on the market. There is one thing to have the "peppy-ness". It's another thing if there is no emotion in putting rubber to road.
Great review as always Joe!
Is the WRX an CVT?
What's the 0 -60 mph time?
@Brian Lee oh ima think it. Sure it’s way better then the other cvt but it still isn’t a dct or good torque converter auto
@missingremote yes the WRX with the automatic transmission is a cvt with some programmed "gearing" to make it FEEL like a geared transmission. Supposedly the 0-60 is 6 seconds flat, which is nearly a full second behind in some cases to its competitors.
@@missingremote4388 There are 4 WRX trims, the only trim that comes with the cvt is the GT but the base, premium and limited are all manual (non cvt).
@@bryanpanamera Base, Premium, and Limited come with the option of the CVT; the GT gets CVT as standard
people just dont realize the sonata n line is way better. U get more tech, more hp, better mpg, and it runs on regular gas
Not to sure about that!
Got a black VB and came from my VA. would do it again 1000 times over. Most people thinking this car isn't as good as the last gen haven't spent time with one. This car is as fast as my buddys stock 2020 STI and the tuning potential is great.
well, I own a 2022 GT, I am disappointed in your review, I am not sure why you did it, if you are coming in biased against the SPT, I have been watching your reviews for years. You state the obvious facts about the speed at the beginning. I know you are biased to 6 speeds, but lets be honest, they are not as fast. I have owned a Veloster N and a Kona N, they are fast, but ride like crap, and are not as well put together as a Subaru. The 8speed DCT has been recalled by Hyundai. The material is NOT Alcantara, its Ultra Suede and Real Leather. You ignore the Eyesight system, the blind spot monitoring, Rear cross traffic alert, and other safety features. This vehicle is good for those of us that may be older, have owned our share of manuals in the past. I can tell you didn't do much research on the vehicle before testing it. Your comments on lagging are basically ridiculous, it does not lag, The Elantra N is not even available with all wheel drive, and is worthless in snowy weather. In the future, if you already have a bias on a vehicle, don't do a review on it. You don't give a complete review of all the modes that are available. Sorry to vent, but I enjoy my GT so much, and you don't give a fair review on this one.
Love your reviews man!! You got a unique style and a good sense of humor!
Thank you for being so supportive Corey!
Hey Joe nice review on the Subaru it's in my favorite color, however I wish it came in a 6 cylinder model happy holidays to you and your family and your viewers.
I was hoping it had a manual
Great job Joe!!! Can't wait for EV6 Gt
Stay tuned brother
@@RaitisRides Dint forget about the refreshed 2023 Subaru Ascent Joe!
Thanks for reviewing the official car of Duluth, MN. I see a lot of these there. Combination of low center gravity, awd, and snow tires is the answer to a winter in a city that slopes steeply towards the lake.
Great review! I like this model because it is the only WRX that comes with Eyesight. Too bad it doesn't have a DCT instead of the SPT. Also, I wish the body cladding came color matched.
Those two things would really improve it!
Thousands of people painted the plastic things n rear bumper check some yt videos of it
They will do the colour matching cladding in the next face lift (following the Lexus UX) 😂
@@chrisg5101 Eyesight is only on the GT
Eyesight is on any model WRX with the CVT. Says so on the build sheet on the Subaru website, the “Build your Own” section. Though I’ll be rowing my own gears, thank you very much.
You seemed way happier reviewing the EN. Like all smiles and feeling amazing. This car didn’t have the same reaction seeing you drive it lol. Hyundai did really good
You are so totally right!
@@layne4376 id still take that risk over owning a honda or Subaru 😂 thanks but you tried.
@@layne4376 I've driven 2 Elantra N and own a velsoter N. Those cars are winners. Transmission issues be damned.
@@wdnalo I don’t care about resale value and I don’t care about peoples skewed perspective on Hyundai lol. I can afford any vehicle in the 30->80k range and I still choose this. The EN is amazing. Tesla was my first choice but honestly in comparison it’s boring.
To each, their own. Enjoy whatever car you have 😂
@@johnquintmatt1986 Fellow VN owner....such a fun vehicle.
And great job you three!
This was a dream car for me in my 20’s. Now I can finally afford it…and I’ve moved on to not being able to afford Porsches.
43k?!!! Holy shit man. This doesn't have the luxury or performance to be asking for 43k dear god.
Hey Joe,
What color do you like best on the 2022 WRX with its’ excessive black cladding? I love the WRX GT, but I am not so happy about the excessive black cladding. Another great ree ER view 👍 Thanks Joe.
I think black obviously would be the only way to make it blend in the most. For me I can't get a WRX or STI in any other color than WR blue!
@@RaitisRides
Yes, we agree. The only color for the WRX (and the BRZ) is World Rally Blue. Thanks Joe.
The vent is functional Joe. There is a opened section to the corner for air to pass through. Check it again.
It’s a nice car but the cladding on the wheel openings reminds me of an ‘90’s Pontiac Aztek🎉
Awesome video like always Joe. But does the GT have remote start?
Yes, through the my subaru app
Surprising that dealerships in the Bay Area have the manual transmission base and premium for $3500 under msrp and still sitting
RIP STi. Happy holidays, Joe and Lori!
Thanks Eric! Same to you and yours!
Happy Holidays Joe, Lori and Steven! Thanks for all you do.
You are so very welcome! Same to you!
I love the Subaru WRX I feel like the fake vents and the flat black cladding as well as the incandescent bulbs on the rear turn signals are nice and they give it style as to a plain and boring blue bumper. I enjoy the flat black cladding Especially how it looks good and the Incandescent bulbs on rear turn signals look great also. They may not be the brightest but the car is a dandy.
I’m glad you are loving this one Luis!
@@RaitisRides True true
@@luiselapostolfeliz2421 thanks man
I like all incandescent bulbs and halogen for headlights. And or
Yellow Fog lights
Elantra N unless you really needa that AWD.
I personally have no issues with Elantra N fwd. Pop a cheap set of winters from my previous ride on the EN. Drove 40km to work on a snowy day and back in 1 piece.
It's all about how you drive
CVT = major zonk. Happy holidays Joe!
Big time! Same to you!
The Elantra N needs an aluminum hood and some LeMans style GT dog lamps... Then we'd be cooking. Maybe some subtle fender/hood vents and that'll complete it. The next one (next gen Elantra N) I hear will have the 2.5L turbo from the Sonata N line. Maybe a fender vent... At least?
I would prefer a manual previous gen STI over this. Does look like a nice sporty daily driver with great seats.
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to be honest i got my 22 wrx and paint matched it the day i got it. car looks great now😂😂
Joe, I woke up today in Ohio & it was -5 with 4 inches of snow. I own a Premium Ignition Red with the SPT. I had to be at work at 8AM. I hit the remote start, de-iced, off to work I went. I felt like Chris Kringle in my Red Sleigh! I have Pilot Sport All Season 4's; they did amazing. The real world, real morning traffic, high way traffic, snow/rain this is why I have this machine. It's phenomenal! Love your videos. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to see a new video of you in your Type RA ! Merry Christmas!
Hi Chris! Thank you fir sharing that awesome but cold experience! I will get something together with my Type RA! Merry Christmas!
Now imagine if you had Michelin Xice tires on it or some other top tier winter. It would further transform the car into something even more capable and fun in snow!
CVT question. Subaru SPT or Hyundai Kia IVT? Which do you prefer? I haven't driven the new WRX, but i have driven an Outback Wilderness. I didn't like the transmission compared to the IVT.
I am going SPT
Can't stand all that matte black cladding especially on the Mazdas, Some cars like the BWM X1 have a small amount around the wheel arches however you can spray them with vinyl shine spray. VW I think started this on the GTI many years ago. I had the 2015 Subaru Impreza Sport Hatch in charcoal metallic with really nice wheels. Ir was so much fun to drive especially in empty parking lots with snow and a bit of ice. They should make a hatch version of this car. Nice videos Joe. You do know your stuff. Merry Christmas!
No launch control? I've seen many TH-camrs pull off that cladding & rear bumper and paint match it, looks way better!
Totally unrelated to this review, but thanks to convincing me on getting a 2018 Mustang Ecoboost in Royal Crimson, Premium. I love it, she’s enough, I named her Remy.
As an avid watcher you should incorporate the ‘walk up to the camera info’ as you do your walk around because I’m sure I’m not the only one that skips until you get to the business side of things.
you said it best "what are you gonna do.." 🤣
The Recaro seats are nice but what happens to 4 port brake calipers?
Just for a fun series, review military vehicles. Especially those used in WW2, Korea etc. Jeeps, half tracks, duces etc. Use the same format you use now.
Now we are talking!
Great review Joe! WRX is not for me. I’d go Elantra N instead. Thanks for bringing it to us.
You are so very welcome Michael
I wish Subaru would hold a press conference and tell us what drugs they were on when they thought this was going to be a good idea. It’s actually almost a clean looking car If it wasn’t for the horrible fake vents.
Merry Christmas to you and yours!
This is a very good suggestion!
Most ugly Impreza/WRX version ever. Though I agree this new one had some hope..............until something went awol!
Happy with my 2020 wrx no regrets
Hold on to her!
I'd love a WRX (have had three Foresters: 2001, 2008 and 2007 -- one crashed, one flooded by a hurricane, one still have) but I have a right foot drop issue and currently use 2 feet to drive auto. So I need some version of auto. Really would want dual clutch with working paddle shifters. Not sure this does it.
i like how they don’t refresh it ever 2 years. A WRX keeps its style for years.
This one will be interesting
Thanks Joe... don't mean to sound harsh ... but the wheel cladding is really lame (note to Subaru ... "it's not an offroad vehicle but rather a sports car") ... I just don't understand why Sub only offers the Recaro seats in the auto flavor .. remember the last gen WRX the Recaros were available in the non-STI but 6MT variety...the WRX 6MT is still on my list but it's no longer a shoo-in ...Civic SI / Integra A-Spec / Camaro LT-1 are putting downward pressure on the WRX ... Keith Chicago IL
Remember the Legacy GT ? That was a good car , turbo with factory limited slip in the rear . Anything with a cvt is DOA . Subaru isn’t a performance car company anymore , it’s a crossover company
I've got a JDM 07 GT wagon. Auto like this WRX. It's an amazing car man. Handles like a dream. 0-60 in 5 seconds
It is slightly less faster but definitely overall better car especially in colder weathers in Canada. Easy choice over Elantra N. But in Tampa Florida people might consider Elantra N.
Subaru got cheap with their wide body by just placing stickers on the side of the wheels. Honda did it the right way with the Type R, a totally different body panel. I'm assuming they will be doing this to the Acura Integra Type S also.
That first on throttle reaction was certainly an anticlimax...
You better believe it!
His face was so hilariously sad
I have a slight feeling that it's really a 2016 Corolla with different interior which would explain the CVT and the oddly similar body and shifter.
The balance in your reviews between comedy and information has to be studied by a university or something lmao. Definitely my favorite car reviewer on TH-cam!😂😂
I never liked the last gen wrx. Hate the fender looks like a outback. But i admit this is the nicest looking one
A GT trim with the manual (and a few grand off) would be great! Also I'm shocked that it doesn't have rear heated seats, I thought it was the only trim with them.
@@thejoshman1234 I hate how US versions keep getting stripped
@@thejoshman1234lmao dont know where you heard that but thats false
@@thejoshman1234 It gets front heated seats in the US on all models above Base.
@@thejoshman1234 Yes and I said “It gets heated FRONT seats” which is adding info to the comment. You also said earlier “I’m referring to the heated seats.” Which meant it in general.
I think it is a nice option for folks who want to own a WRX, but don't want to deal with a manual transmission on a daily basis.
I've owned manual transmission cars as a daily drivers, and dealing with bumper to bumper traffic is a chore with one.
Love the color, great hood, but hate the cladding around wheel wells..
I am right there with you.
A redeeming factor could have been putting some unequal length headers for the Subie rumble
The trench of every new wrx, Subaru rolls out a new model, the group criticizes it and mod it to their own likings, Subaru gathers this likings and puts them into the face-lift model. If Subaru paints the fenders and lowers the rear bumper, then this is golden.
I can see the head gasket crumbling from here.
🤣 You crack me up!
I love these new wrx’s
I love my 6 speed manual 22 WRX!
Crazy that regular WRX is the same price STI was just a year ago.
You better believe it!
A CVT WRX is like playing baseball without a glove
Still can't get by those civic rear tail lights, the auto trans is a no for me as well, and the black around the fenders is cringe 😬. Happy holidays though Joe!
I actually love this car. Subaru can’t shake its old simpleton fan base though.
This is a very good point!
Awesome review as always you guys, to many black trims for me and should bring back the STi
I could not agree more with you
Excellent video 📹
A lot of car for the money 💰
Probably better in manual
I don’t know about the cladding. I still couldn’t get it over with. I get it though. It is a rally car. But cmon, it just doesn’t sit right in these cars. Even with the rally guys, no one even uses that. I like the black claddings in my Subaru ascent or outback. But a sports sedan? I can’t.
His face @ 25:25 after "launching" says it all. lol
Just curious if you drove a non GT? As the base does not have a mode sport mode I was curious if sport mode makes a nice difference or not.
Here in Australia it does have the three modes for the cvt. Overall not bad to drive as a daily in S mode.
6k RPM shift in a 43k sports car… not very fun to me especially while having that turbo. Was hoping it would be around that 6.5k-6.8k. Would also have much more fun instantly back in boost even shifting
Last gen WRX started at 27k and that was a couple of years ago. Feels like fiction.
@@xFlared crazy stuff man. I mean 43k for a less than 300hp sports car. For 10k more which is only 100-150 more a month you can have a vehicle like a ZL1 where you get dbl the number of everything. I don’t see much special about it and especially at this price range. I think 30-35max it would’ve been a pretty slick car.
I wish they would've dropped the CVT and went for a 9-speed auto instead. Of course the 6-speed manual can still be standard. Also, can they kill the plastic black fenders?
If only!
Honestly a Kia GT is probably better than this 😅 tad expensive imo
Those seats are clean though!
I saw the jp STI and is not too different from the GT. Can you mention the differences?
Ever since the Evo’s death the WRX has started to deteriorate.
I don't hate it, but I'm definitely keeping my 18 Type RA. With time, I learned to respect and appreciate certain characteristics and features of all cars. Could Subaru have done better? Yes; is it a monstrosity? No. Not having the Type RA, would I buy it? I'm not sure... is just not an STI!
That is the way to go!
Off the line that transmission is just trying to protect itself. Not a serious race car transmission. But looks like a fun daily.
Govern to 130mph ... only has 270 hp ... why would you need to ? Lol. Love the video
I love it Joe and Lori and keep up the good work and I love the video 👍
Thanks for always being there man!
Happy Friday and Happy Holidays Joe! WRX Time!
Same to you Tom! Let's go AWD ON THROTTLE!
@@RaitisRides ;D
This car is pretty disappointing in terms of looks and overall performance. I get refinement and moving forward but the formula got ruined I think.
Still rolling in my 06 WRX teearghhh...
You better keep it!
@@RaitisRides oh yeah 168k and running strong...
But my 14 year old is sure eye balling it😅
@@chi3454 glad to hear she is going strong!