Gentrification of Mexico City │ What’s the Real Cause?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video we discuss the factors contributing to the gross gentrification of CDMX, especially La Roma Norte and La Condesa. Are Gringos really to blame? Or is there more to this sad story.
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Regarding the first story, I think that if you are in a public space like a park, it's not fair to ask other people to move just because you set up a camera and like the lighting. People are allowed to move freely within public spaces. If I get to a park and sit down to enjoy the view and play with my dog and someone asks me to move because I'm in "their frame" I would find that rude and entitled (regardless of nationality).
While I would completely agree 99% of the time, this guy clearly did it out of spite and the bystanders most definitely agreed he was out of line. But I totally get your point. Thanks for sharing
First of all, it's important to be mindful when asking a local, especially in their own neighborhood, "Are you almost done?", is not the question in on itself but within the context it was asked. Even in a public space, this kind of question within that context, can come off as rude or intrusive in many cultures, including Mexico, it might be seen as offensive, even if that's not your intention.
As for gentrification, it's true that it's often linked to the influx of gringos, but the real driving force behind it is large real estate corporations. These companies target "hot markets" around the world, buying up properties in bulk, which gives them the power to raise rent prices. This creates a ripple effect, forcing smaller landlords to raise their prices to compete, which makes rent skyrocket. It's a global issue, and it's particularly out of control in the U.S. This is one of the reasons why many Americans are moving to Mexico, and unfortunately, the problem is following them here.
It's also worth noting that this isn't the fault of individuals like former mayor Claudia Sheinbaum. No one really anticipated such a large number of young, working Americans relocating to Mexico City. Historically, only retirees moved to smaller towns like San Miguel and coastal towns, but this wave of gringos migrating to major cities is new. You might want to look into "RealPage" property management platform-it's an algorithm used to set rent prices around the world. NBC has a documentary about it. Good luck Gringito.
Very interesting my friend I’ll definitely check that out!! Such a huge point about the corporations such as State Street, Blackrock, Berkshire and their subsidiaries dominating the hot markets in the US. That is indeed a huge driving factor but was beyond the scope of this video to properly cover. Thanks so much for sharing! 🇲🇽❤️
HI!!!! TRUE gentrifier here!!!!! So, gentrification is done by people like me: OWNERS, we own the apartments, houses, stores, etc, and we rent them as a businesses. Second point, 95% of us are MEXICANS. Again, OWNING, comes with rights, one of those is to do with my property as I please, and if I please to milk the blond cow, temporarily grazing on my pasture, well, so be it! And NO, Mexico's main income IS not remittances, remittances are like 7% of the GDP, aka, peanuts...
YES!! Thanks for openly sharing this! And who could blame you? As a business person, you are doing the right thing. “Milking the blond cow” 🤣🤣🤣. I’m without words and so grateful to have your perspective here. Pure love and respect. ❤️🇲🇽
Yes I understand that manufacturing is like $260 billion but $70 billion would be some delicious peanuts 😅
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You are not an owner...you are just an opinionated woman that can not keep her mouth shut., specially on matters you know st about.
Your opinion is entirely fabricated ignorant BS .
Sth up.
There are historic reasons why some Mexicans dislike Americans, and it does not really have to do with "gentrification." Today, there has been an incredible influx of Americans and other foreigners to a couple of neighborhoods in Mexico City, and this has caused displacement of locals. But the displacement is caused by the owners of the real estate that raise rents, or rent via Airbnb. There is nothing wrong with people being business minded. Mexicans are by an large business minded, and welcoming! And, there's so many other neighborhoods in Mexico City and elsewhere that are economically depressed, and so the displacement of the locals from Condesa or Roma will improve those other areas as they move there. It is great to see Mexico having momentum and attracting immigration. In the end, Mexicans and Americans have a shared future - nearly every Mexican has a friend or a relative living in the US. We are two nations sharing a past and a future like no other.
I think it’s important to remember that the Mexicans who live and work in the United States are continually subjected to judgment, hate, and verbal abuse. In fact, the hate and judgment toward them is part of why I packed it up and moved to México. If I have to take some heat while living here because of the current and past grievances against them, then so be it. After all, the kindness I receive from 99% of everyone else I encounter continues to feed my soul. 💚🤍♥ ¡¡Gracias México!! 💚🤍♥ As far as who is to blame...
You said you want our thoughts, and my thought is it's not our country. Therefore, how they want to run it and how it impacts us is irrelevant. I know it's hard for foreigners not to have comments, concerns, or feelings about our experiences in México when something is so foreign to us. However, we are guests/immigrants/expats, and if we want to live the way we did, then we need to move back to where we feel most comfortable. Never forget, we moved here because WE LOVE México, its culture, and its people. Your facts and presentation may be true, yet it's still coming from an us versus them mindset, That's my perspective, and I am open to a conversation. Peace to All!!
PS, I feel your heart, sensitivity, and concern. Please do not think I am discounting that.
Really appreciate you sharing your perspective my friend! That was my real hope with this video. Many thanks 🇲🇽❤️
@@theropemonster Aww... so sweet you are!! No anger or pressing back. Your heart is true and genuine in your quest. 👏👏 🇲🇽 ¡¡Viva México!! 🇲🇽
Fist of all, people (both Americans and Mexicans) are using words that they don't know the meaning:
Gentrification is the process whereby the character of a poor urban area is changed by wealthier people moving in, improving housing, and attracting new businesses, typically displacing current inhabitants in the process. So This happens in every city in the US too.
2) Mexico's economy is the #15th in the world. There are thousands of Mexican people living Mexico city making more money than if they were living in the US, Why? because of shortage of a high educated individual to run multinational companies in Mexico.
3) Gentrification is not new in Mexico City, it's been happening for decades. This is why 22 millions of inhabitants live in the Metro area of Mexico City. Yes, Mexicans have been displacing Mexicans for years. The difference is that with the Pandemic a few more thousands have arrived at only 4 areas making this trend more visible than before. Do Americans really move the Mexican market? Not really, real estate prices move up at the same rate in the entire city. Yes, no all zones are the same but they move the same rate.
4) I give you an example why people moving to Mexico city from the states do not matter, only 10% of Mexican GDP comes from tourism and out of this 10%, 8% is Mexican tourism (Mexicans moving within Mexico) and 2% is foreign tourism so 2% is relatively nothing as a percentage of the GDP. A few years ago there was senator from State that has a lot of beaches well he proposed to ban spring breakers he argued that they bring more problems to his cities than what they leave in revenue. So guys please just stop with that argument that Mexico needs your money.
5) it's laughable but many people that are complaining about Americans in the Mexico are South Americans and Centro Americans.
6) By the way, only 5% of the mexican population speaks english so when people write a negative comment in english, I said that most probable is that they are not Mexicans commenting.
7) Most Mexicans see the benefits that the US and Canadians bring to the country something that can not be said about South American and Centro Americas
I really appreciate you sharing!! All great information backed with real data!! The Mexican economy is a powerhouse and indeed relies very little if at all as a whole on foreign tourism. Many thanks for taking the time here to drop some serious knowledge on this matter. 🇲🇽❤️
The Gringo has a point, corruption is the root of the problem. Americans shouldn't be blame for the policies approved by the politicians we voted for that favor only the Real State corporations and the politicians themselves.
Thanks for sharing Eduardo ❤️🇲🇽
I think greed is largely to blame. Greed is a natural human characteristic, so there is little that can be done. Those that are in a position to exploit will do so. Those folks with extra apartments will prefer to "rent" or Uber to a foreigner that can afford 30k pesos for a nice apartment in a nice neighborhood, instead of renting to their Mexican countrymen for a (much) lower price. Politicians will sell their souls every chance they can, so that is not surprising.
However, absolutely, the high demand exists directly because of the folks that come to CDMX from other countries where rents are higher still. TH-camrs, digital nomads, remote workers, retirees are a portion of these folks from elsewhere, that drive up the rental prices for everyone.
If there is less demand, the prices will go down and may return to reasonable levels, although this is doubtful at this point.
It's entirely possible that the same happens the other way around, where workers come to the US and undercut the American workforce. This also causes strong animosity against the foreigner worker. Also, human nature.
Continue to do what you do.
Thanks so much for the insight my friend. Well-said and I couldn’t agree more. The foreign worker/job loss is a very real thing in my state.. but once again it comes down to greed, in this case by the employers, managers and corporations. Once upon a time I had a job in Key West, Florida, renting scooters and golf carts to people… the big boss started me at $10/hr (this was in 2007), while meanwhile, my Brazilian co-workers who had been working there 6 months, were getting $5/hr. He doubled his labor force by being a greedy dirtbag.
I am Mexican
Welcome to Mexico
Don’t listen to the complaints about migration.
It’s Mexico city
Just try to dress more local and you can pass as a Mexican
Yea I definitely still have the Playa Del Carmen wardrobe! Thanks for the tips and for checking out the video 🇲🇽❤️
I’m sorry but those gentrified areas would still be forgotten ruins from the 1985 earthquake if it wasn’t for the creative people with some money moving in. Those people complaining are probably not even native chilangos themselves. That guy riding in the passenger side is bitter because he has to get a ride from others 😂
Most of us Mexicans are very welcoming, please don’t get discouraged about a few bad apples. As long as you come and help your community, help the economy, you are very welcomed. Greetings!!
Thanks my friend!! Muy amable 🇲🇽❤️
Great video. Gentrification happens everywhere. In this case, the major of CDMX made a bold move that affected the rental market for locals. Americans living in Mexico City with purchasing power is a great thing for restaurants and coffee shops. The salsas are a different story. Please learn to enjoy picante.
I’m all about the spicy 🥵… I go to a place Sinaloa 172… 12 peso tacos and literally all 3 of their salsas are enough to melt your insides 😭😅. Thanks for watching ❤️🇲🇽
Thank you for this video. Very helpful!
I, born in Mexica and raised in the USA, can't understand why you would ask someone in a public space "when he'd be done (it's the same)". I understand why we could do it here in the states but also understand why you wouldn't do it in Mexico. So despite your experience in Mexico there are some things to learn....It's OK. As for gentrification, lose lose situation unique again to Mexico. Despite the US being full of Mexicans, the feelings of Mexicans being pushed out of the market in Mexico is mostly bad because while the rich will just benefit more than they already were, the poor will be hurt more than they were already (double whammy). What's the worse that can happen? More money makes it into Mexico with little trickle to the working class and some nice neighborhoods become more like a US neighborhood and less Mexican????? I think we can all agree that is not necessarily the best outcome.....I don't know I don't have a solution-
What the city really needs from foreigners is to get to know different places and neighborhoods that are also good places to live, such as Pedregal, San Angel, Tlalpan Centro, San Jeronimo, Napoles, La del Valle, and countless other neighborhoods, even in the State of Mexico, such as Huixquilucan and other places, and thus the interest in more places could be dispersed and the multiculturalism of Mexico City could really be taken advantage of. Not everything is Roma, Condesa, Centro, Reforma, Polanco, and Santa Fe. Show places like Ciudad Universitaria, the Coyoacan nurseries, go into the ecological zone of Cuemanco with its pier and canoeing trail, the National Film Library, the Interventions Museum, and hundreds of other historical museums,the librarys, not always the anthropology museum, the plant markets of Xochimilco, areas like Ajusco, the Central Market, the Desert of the Lions, get to know the Cuicuilco Pyramid, and other activities. different from having coffee and eating in restaurants in the Cuauhtémoc district, that would disperse resources more and they would be very welcome everywhere.
Definitely a valid point that I’m not hearing many people talk about! Thanks for sharing that ❤️🇲🇽
I think is a mix of the historic racism and attitude us citizens when Mexicans immigrate or as you call them become expats in the US
Also the fact that there is no recognition that they are immigrants themselves to the point they call themselves something else as expats to separate themselves with the immigrant term.
Also the fact that there are right out aggressions against Mexican culture in many instances that we know of and we assume there are sparse ones that he have no knowledge of m.
Also there is a lot of crime tourism. USA citizens do in Mexico.
That together with other factors you’ve mentioned has started to shape people’s minds.
Very interesting take! Thanks for sharing your thoughts 🇲🇽❤️
@@theropemonster I mean a lot of these actions come from many preconceptions experienced and also sadly it is political. As you mentioned no one mentions Sheimbaum deal with Airbnb. I’ve found out a very small amount of the population knows it. Just like the political environment in the USA is permeated with blind followers who won’t listen to reason the same with morena. You can show these people how the ruling party is tearing the country apart and they refuse to listen and to see it.
To be honest I believe that you and your community should just try your best to educate yourselves. I suggest you to make Mexican friends learn Spanish, learn about the culture, cooperate the best way you can, if you are not paying taxes and there’s no way you can contribute to that then volunteer by teaching English to people that could greatly benefit from them for instance. Act as you know they like immigrants to act like in the US for example.
And maybe this may sound silly but you don’t see Mexican men wearing shorts in Mexico City do you?
Another thing is that you don´t pay taxes in Mexico, you pay in USA, you just take and not return to the country.
Pretty sure I actually contribute plenty here in Mexico economically and to the local and indigenous people.
Why would he or any other gringo or expat pay taxes in Mexico? They spend their money there, so they only give in my opinion. It is just as any other tourist who visits Mexico. If they are working in Mexico (a legit job)they would be paying taxes.
Don't be so sensitive. I'm a Mexican living in Arizona, and the same issues occur here also due to California's moving to Arizona, and everything has sky rocket. It used to be cheap to buy a home here, but no more! There are cruel people everywhere don't let it get to u.
Facts, thanks Dora. I used to live in Phoenix, AZ and believe it or not, I bought a condominium there for like $70,000 in 2010. Those days are definitely gone. Thanks for watching 🇲🇽❤️
if you're not here how do you know how it is? i was shoved into the ground in the street from behind by a woman on. a bike and told to go back to the US (I am not even from there). this kind of hate leads to violence. i was lucky i didnt get hit by a car.
My father always told me, "Al pais que fueres, haz lo que vieres" that goes like "Whatever country you go, do what you see" We Mexicans are very different from USA and European culture, we value community and kindness, also we have a little resentment towards gringos, so be mindful when you are here, because we open arms for everyone and welcome everyone to our home, but dont forget you are guests here. We hate people from outside telling us how to do things and specially and Im being very honest with this, gringos are the least type of people to tell us what to do, be wary of that next to you say something like "Are you almost done?" to a local, because if you were in a more barrio neighbourhood it could take a bad turn.
Regarding gentrification, its a problem mainly from big corpos and very rich people that speculates with housing, people coming is not the problem its the result of poor laws for protecting local housing, still we welcome everyone but we demand cultural respect, we wont change and we hate that foreigners try to change us.
Thanks for sharing!! 🇲🇽❤️
I think point #1 is not CDMX policies, that's #2. #1 is what is happening in the US, because #2 alone is not what makes people move into Mx. What is happening there that is driving all people to migrate? California to Tx and other states, and other states in turn, to other countries. Is it greed from digital nomads, or the fact that wages in US cannot keep pace with inflation? I've seen several videos where people say the cost of living in several US cities is just not affordable anymore. Is this due to US Policies? Corporations? Even Pandemic?
Now, Sheimbaum might have had that arrangement, but CDMX is not the only place where gentrification exists (Aijijic, San Miguel, Merida, Tijuana, etc...) so I wouldn't think CDMX policies alone is the biggest contributor.
Very valid points indeed Pablo!! Thanks so much for contributing to the discussion and for taking the time to check out the video 🇲🇽❤️
CDMXer here. Like other Mexicans commented already, we love to see foreigners love Mexico and most are happy or at least ok for you making home here. This is easy to proof, one just needs to jump into any expat TH-camrs’ channel and read the comments. Most Mexicans are in approval. The key here is respect our culture and enjoy with respect. Your enjoyment is our enjoyment as you guys put Mexico in a good image. Much needed as the MSM hasn’t for ages. (worldwide, including our own MSM).
Of course there would be a few bunch who would not want expats here but this isn’t personal or anything to do with ‘gringos’, this happens everywhere.
As long as expats adapt to us and not the other way around, things should move smoothly most of the time. (Not perfect, but most of the time). That’s my take. Cheers amigo.
Thanks so much for sharing that Alfredo!! Really appreciate hearing your take on things. Salud amigo 🇲🇽❤️
alot of mexicans hate us and tell us to our face. sorry, you're not aware of the reality. and yeah, it does happen everywhere and you know what else happens everywhere after this kind of hate boils up? violence.
Yo no se los demás.....pero yo aprendo inglés con tus videos......hablas claro y no muy rápido. 👍👍🌵🌵
Mejor aún, si le bajas un poco la velocidad al video jeje 🤭 Es muy agradable el teacher Rope M.
Me hace feliz saber q aprendes con mis videos Rafa!! Muchisimas gracias ❤️🇲🇽
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Dont take it presonal bro as a Mexican tell you many Mexicans are in the usa working even with no papers, wouldnt be fare to ask foreigners to laeave you do an efford to learn spanish, talk about
Mexican culture and we are
grateful for that, Just ignore bad comments, mexican governent wasnt ready for lot of changes in the World and People like you that contribute and Mexican econony, blogging about Mexican life, showing other People around the World that everyone is welcome we really aprecciate, thanks for your time and love the walks that you do around the neibourdhood with great quality picture and great energy that you have, also While you show the World how México is we also learn english from you!
Really appreciate the kind words and feedback! Reading this really lifted me up during my morning coffee!! ☕️ 🤗
Nice video! Its a touchy subject for sure, i just started publishing content in Mexico and I am seeing the comments and anger at it as well.
It will always be a mixed response but someone needs to start these conversations regardless of the heat they may take! Great job being one of those people. Respect and thanks for watching my friend. All the best to you 🇲🇽❤️
I mean this is true. It's both sides. The same happened in the Bay area California...but we are not rude to Asians or Indians Indians...but this is a topic the need to be out spoken. I'm know there's resentment in this area but not all Mexico. Wishing Peace and Love 😘❤️👌
Many thanks!! Abrazos de CDMX 🤗 🇲🇽❤️
Yo por eso soy apolítica 🙈 ... En México al gobierno le importa un comino el pueblo y lo que pueden perjudicarnos, y justo son todos los ingenuos que aún creen en el gobierno, son los que protestan y están peleados con la vida y se les ocurre la brillante idea de buscar extranjeros para desquitarse con ellos atacándolos.
Lo mejor es no esperar nada del gobierno y luchar para salir adelante nosotros mismos para poder sobrevivir en este mundo difícil en vez de desgastarnos quejándonos.
Es mi manera de pensar, espero no se ofenda alguien de los que molestan extranjeros! 😂
Jeje otra apolítica aquí jeje y pues ojalá todos dejaran las diferencias de un lado y nos tratáramos unos a otros d la misma manera q nos gusta q nos traten ❤ gracias por tu sinceridad y buenas intenciones de ser mejores personas cada día
Un abrazo enorme Nohemi!! Gracias por compartir! Yo tmbn soy apolítico y solo busco la paz… y los tacos 🥹😅😅
@@anayvisAsí es Anita! ❤
@@theropemonster 😂😂😂 La paz del señor esté contigo 🙏
Ahhh¡
Cuando vayan a Coyoacán, les recomiendo que entren a los Viveros de Coyoacán, les va a encantar pues ustedes disfrutan caminar pero ahí sería rodeados de naturaleza aire puro!
Aunque puedo entender que el marco legal y urbano para que se haya dado la gentrificacion haya partido (en parte) de las autoridades mexicanas, no es que los gringos no tengan responsabilidad alguna en aprovechar dada situacion, en primer lugar, y que no tengan demasiado respeto a la cultura mexicana.
No creo que sea justo que les pidamos que cambien su manera de vivir completamente para ajustarse a la nuestra (aun cuando ellos hacen esto mismo), pero muchas veces vienen con muy poco respeto y muy poca apertura, queriendo vivir tal cual vivian en sus lugares de origen. Yo no vivo la realidad ni de la Condesa ni de la Roma, que son barrios que aún antes de la gringuiza ya estaban en un proceso de gentrificacion muy fuerte, pero puedo entender que no nos guste que vengan a tratar de imporner su forma de vida, aprovechando una situación economica que nos desfavorece como mexicanos, y que de la cual como país sacamos muy poco provecho.
Estoy tratando de ser lo mas imparcial despues de escuchar tus argumentos, pero lo cierto es que gran parte de la población mexicana no les tiene ningun cariño ni ustedes como personas ni a su país, por razones económicas, históricas, culturales y muchas más. Y me parece que este videos es un buen acercamientos a tratar de hacer un dialogo entre las dos partes, por lo que me parece que mereces mi honestidad: Fuera de la situación urbana que se esta dando en nuestra cuidad, siendo claro, odio a tu país y odio a tu gente. Se que no es una postura racional ni justa, pero es una que mucha gente en México comparte. Mucho de este problema no viene de la situación en si, sino del desprecio que les tenemos. Siento que sea así, no me siento orgulloso, y te pido una disculpa. pero así es.
Haters will always exist, some TH-camrs are playing some part there, and yes, people who owns apartments for rent are getting greedy, some are even looking for ways to make long-term tenants to leave the place so they can rent the place to foreigners for more money, President Sheinbaum most take care of that issue.
Facts! Thanks for sharing Ramon! 🇲🇽❤️
Thank you RM for covering this so important, controversial and difficult subject. The same thing is happening in Toronto, Spain, Indonesia and all over bc of foreign investors setting up shop. To get affordable housing, you have to move out of the big cities. But as you said, it's a shared responsibility btw locals, governments, and ex-pats (aka immigrants).
For this reason, I always try to stay at hotels vs airbnbs, and eat and shop locally as much as possible.
Sometimes I think that we gringos should be renting at a higher price bc we can afford it, and leave the more affordable rentals for locals, but sometimes I think that it's not the way to go? It's so complicated, and it's hard to know the right thing to do 😢
It’s definitely a complex issue Jiji! We had the same thoughts about showing the Hotels some love when we first got here to CDMX and did that for about 10 days before finally renting a place directly from a local at a very fair price for the both of us! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Heading out to Amorino now to get Ana some ice cream, espresso for me, and of course play Uno and accuse each other of being tramposos and laugh til our cheeks hurt 😅😜❤️🤗
@theropemonster Haha! Awesome! I haven't played UNO in years! I think I might get myself a deck and play with my friends and family also! Nothing like a good stomach laugh! All the best to you and Ana ! 🥰
So is the Same here in USA. same happened to me here in Charlotte NC. There is a park with beautiful view. nice ligtning for Fotos so 2 White girls close to me and just stand beside me and they said to me. I can not take pictures because they are Taking pictures too. Because they pay Taxes bla bla bla. I was like well i pay taxes too. And this is a public park. long story i could go longer talk about it. So do not put Mexico like is not Safe or welcoming. Every country has bad and good people. So do not talk about my Mexico. Bro
That guy was out of line “bro”. You weren’t there.
CDMX is an awesome City, Mexico is a great nation, it's close to the US, and it used 2 be affordable.. (kiss those days Adios)
It is truly a special city, no doubt! Thanks for watching 🇲🇽❤️
MANUFACTURING is the main source of income for mexico. NOT remittance. But I agree with the fact that the Mexican government is to blame for gentrification
If governments (mostly USA) would quit the money printing frenzy it would probably bring down inflation / rising costs, but it ain't gonna happen. Inflation hurts the poor and working class disproportionately because the wealthy have assets that grow in value with inflation. Sheinbaum saw an opportunity to add to the cities revenue and either didn't understand how it would affect locals or just didn't care.
Now she’s president, so I guess we’ll see her true colors on a huge scale and see what she’s learned from this particular situation in CDMX. Thanks for checking out the video Chris 🇲🇽❤️
Gentrification is to blame on both sides, no? OK Gringos might overpay everything, but mostly because they don't know any better. They go and ask for a rental price (in English and so it is in some sort their own fault they get overcharged) and they are overcharged by the owner. And they pay because in their mind it is stil prety cheap. The owners on the other hand see a gringo come and ask for a rental price in English and think "hey, that gringo doens't know anything about renting prices in this neighbourhood. I can ask a lot more". So they overcharge. Other owners see this and think "why would I rent to a Mexican that I can only charge 10k pesos if I can rent to a gringo that i can ask 20k pesos and who pays this sum without any question asked?" Is there a solution to this? I don't know. There is theoreticaly. Gringos learn Spanish and look into current rental prices in a certain neighbourhood. So the don't pay double or triple the prices. And owners should be asking the same prices to gringos as they ask to Mexicans... but it is only human to try to make as much money as they can. Only other solution is the governement setting seilings on (rental or buying) prices. But if that is doable in Mexico?
Someone already commented my thought about the REAL cause of gentrification (I don't really like that word) is GREED If Mexicans don't want the rent, food, car ect prices to go up, stop charging higher prices to foreigners, just because you know they can and will pay. Even the simple stuff at the market, prices double as soon as my white face shows up. This has happened to my wife n I several times through the years. My wife being Mexicana shops without me being near her, so we get a different (better) price.
You have made valid points on all parts of your topic here. Viewing the topic from both sides realistically. A pat on the back for staying calm and polite. But also using the situation to educate.
@@mexsouriman05 All valid points my friend. There is certainly a lot of greed surrounding these issues and there no shortage by the people running the short term rental operations or allowing them to operate at such scale with zero regulation.
As far as the shopping, I just experienced that lol… this guy at the market tried to charge me $120mxn/kilo for avocado…I obviously declined…shortly after asking him the price, I asked a nice old lady how much she had just paid for her avocados and she said $70/kilo. Why not just double it for the gringo, sin vergüenza?! 🤷🏼♂️😅😅.
@theropemonster the struggle is real my friend. We just stay humble and be ourselves. Thank you for always responding, I appreciate you.
Also, you are a young, good-looking guy who locals sometimes think you're privileged. Confrontation because of jealousy can happen . Stay safe 🙏
Thanks William, could definitely be a factor! As always, really appreciate your thoughts here. 🇲🇽❤️
Son interesantes tus videos , la manera de narrar es muy entretenida , no dejes de hacerlos , saludos
Muchisimas gracias! Saludos 🇲🇽❤️
If your a inmigrant legal or not in Mexico support local businesses and buy local .
Estoy de acuerdo 💯!! I do my best to get my bread, produce etc from local businesses and farmers! There’s a sweet old couple on the corner of Jalapa y Chihuahua… every day after 1pm I go there and get chuleta ahumada, aguacate, mango, nopales, huevos… tienes todo! Thanks for watching 🇲🇽❤️
@@theropemonster Órale enjoy Mexico
En Mexico hay doble estándar, queremos que nos traten bien cuando estamos en otros países pero en casa no tratamos bien al migrante ni al visitante.
Gracias 🙏 nos encanta escuchar estas opiniones sinceras ya q realmente amamos México y su gente a pesar de no sentirnos bienvenidos siempre… gracias
Todos somos humanos en esta tierra ❤y deberíamos amarnos como tal ❤
Claro que No, yo trabajo en el turismo y te puedo decir que de hecho es lo opuesto, los mexicanos siempre hemos sido conocidos por ser amistoso y recibir extremadamente bien a los visitantes y ese es justo el problema.
La mayoría son unos agachados qué les da miedo decirle algo a los turistas cuando están haciendo algo mal, porque se vayan a ofender, o peor con tal de que les dejen dolares les dan la preferencia y los dejan hacer cualquier desmadre, como privatizar las playas, o andar menospreciando y denigrando a los mexicanos en su propio país con su depotismo y RACISMO.
Desde luego que el turismo es una industria muy importante en México y si queremos una industria sustentable que traiga beneficios económicos a todos por generaciones, como mexicanos debemos de dejar de andar de vende patrias, y hacer valer nuestros derechos y defender nuestra cultura y recursos naturales.
@@misterbuenverde5596 ridic🙄 tu comentario comprueba que estoy en lo correcto ✅.
Well informed and considering both perspectives, unfortunately gentrification is a thing in all major cities it's a never ending cycle
Spot on my friend. Sad but true. Quito is the only major city I’ve been to recently that felt almost untouched by it. But it’s not necessarily the best place to live either. Thanks for watching.
Definitely, your question is morbidly disrespectful. Parks in Mexico are "PUBLIC, NOT PRIVATE". How dare you ask someone in Mexico "hey how long are you going to be here because I want to film here?" You know, you can always come back home to the States. I know that you would not ask the same question to someone in a park in the U.S. We would jump you here! Bla bla bla.!
He did it intentionally to be rude. There’s a difference.
@@theropemonster think about it as a protest more than to be intentionally rude tho. If you really are trying to look at it from the locals perspective thats a form of protest, of reclaiming a space.
Great video, RM . It's a consistent theme in the world: make money, and unfortunately, poor people never benefit from this.
No hay duda de que la relación entre México y los Estados Unidos siempre será de "amor & odio"; estoy seguro de que si un americano viene a México,por cada mexicano grosero que conozca,¡encontrará 8 o 9 mexicanos amables! Lamento mucho que hayas tenido esas malas experiencias,y espero que sean más las positivas.¡Saludos y no te desanimes por haber venido a éste país! Recuerda que lamentablemente nunca nos faltará algún imbécil que se nos cruce en el camino 😅
Awevo que estoy de acuerdo jaja creo que es igual done sea… en Grecia por ejemplo habia mil personas con sus brazos abiertos… y dos o tres con solo un dedo 😅🤣. Gracias por compartir! Abrazo
Did you move to Mexico City from PDC? Just curious if you felt the same issues in Playa? You seemed to really enjoy it. We are looking to buy a condo in PDC, wouldnt want to go through all of that. Also i am also a gringo, my wife is black, always wondered what is she called, gringa or negra?
Hey Donald! This issue is nowhere near as serious or noticeable in PDC. I wouldn’t worry about it. I’m not moving here to CDMX permanently but wanted to give it a chance for a couple of months. I definitely miss the beach and volleyball but the food, architecture, history etc. here is incredible! Your wife would still be called gringa if she’s from the U.S by the way! Thanks for checking out the video and best of luck on your condo purchase.. exciting! ❤️🇲🇽
@theropemonster Thank you and good luck in CDMX, looks like alot of fun. Will keep watching your journey. Working on temporary citizenship now and will be buying in PDC by spring of 25.
@@theropemonster, Mexicans call people from the USA "gringos" not trying to offend but for the fact that they know that they are Americans too, the name of the Continent is America, but many people calls US citizens "Americans" , so the people from the US doesn't really have a name to be called, not like "Canadians" who are Americans too, how would you name the people from a Country named United States of America ?, ...
Both, Mexicans host and ex-pats need to open a dialogue.
If you know mexico, you knew that our government does not represent us and their not a free will elected class.
This is a social problem, not a political one.
Let's start the discussion between both people
💯 agree! Thanks for sharing 🇲🇽❤️
Good video monster. Interesting and relevant subject
Thanks Bjarne, seemed like the right time to have this discussion for sure. ❤️🇲🇽
great points on the interesting topic of gentrification , it's really annoying that gentrification is happening all over the world in every country and even here in florida usa. the only way to control it is local laws or regulations. I saw some video on reddit showing how many airbnb listings there are in cdmx, it was actually bonkers. it was a signficant portion of available housing and behind those profits are usually locals of that country making amazing money off of gringos coming in. we , as gringos , definitely are the fuel that feeds this problem but its up to local governments to do something if it really is affecting life there the citizens will vote for regulation over time. here in florida , these investors have changed our neighborhoods by adding a few airbnbs mixed in with big parties. pretty much everyone hates what has happened here (except investors lol), that's crazy that you are getting hate as a gringo !
It truly is insane the sheer volume of short term rentals here!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts, definitely a global issue and no big city is immune! 🇲🇽❤️
Good video and info. I am in agreement with you, it is not all the “gringos” fault. The government of CDMX and other cities have encouraged AirBnB and other companies to come in and now owners of living units can earn more by renting to foreigners or wealthy Mexicans instead of the “locals”. It is also the fault of the Mexican property owners who want to make a lot more money at the expense of their own neighbors and fellow countrymen. They see the problems this is causing but don’t seem to care. Yes, foreigners have more buying power and can afford the higher rents but the city governments need to implement measures to address this issue. Yes, this is something nobody is or seems to want to talk about. It is a two-edged sword as foreigners and tourists bring in a lot of money that supports jobs but brings with it problems as well. Same thing is happening in other countries like Spain and Italy. I agree, foreigners who stay in Mexico need to adapt and learn the language and culture and not act so privileged, so there is enough blame to go around.
Thanks for the feedback and sharing your thoughts as well! Much appreciated 🇲🇽❤️
You're like those dang Californians now 😂 . Tbh It's the government, its greed, corporations in particular taking asvantage of people, some jealousy, some folks near homelessness due to low wages , so many factors. Great topic bruddah!
Haha right?! Thanks Jesse, always appreciate the feedback from that big brain of yours! More enjoyable than you smoking me at chess ♟️ 🤣🤣
@@theropemonster i actually blame California for all things gentrification in a very basic statement 😅
@@jessekenney8292and who could blame you?! 😅
Amazing vid brother. Keep it up 😊
Thanks my friend! Always happy to see your feedback here 🇲🇽❤️
Maybe don't ask people in public spaces when they're leaving so you can film yourself there. No one would appreciate that.
Dude did it on purpose to be rude. I was there first.
@@theropemonster ah ok, got it.
@@theropemonster Even if you were there first. It's still public space. Asking people to leave because of that is rude
In a public place, people come and go. There is no "I got here first".@@theropemonster
Hi buddy, generally, as you've noticed mejority Mexicans tend to not be as direct and more on the polite side. If I was going to ask some to move their dog, I would very extremely polite, around: Senior, le puedo pedir un favor? " And explain. Yet not guaranteed result as is up to the person in question. Generally that is how we do it in Mexico. Anything with a hint of a demand would most likely get a definite negative response. Cheers, buen video
Somebody will always be blamed for gentrification. Here in Texas, Californians and New Yorkers are blamed for making everything expensive. It’s a worldwide issue.
No doubt… I think folks in Montana, Idaho and Oregon would also point the finger at Californians…the reality is just that not all economies or real estate markets are equal, and people will Geoarbitrage to have better quality lives, given the clear chance. I can’t even imagine what Austin has become by this point or San Antonio. Thanks for checking out the video my friend.
Ojalá algún día también vayan la ciudad de Querétaro, es una ciudad muy bonita y ahora mismo está habiendo mucha construcción, ya que muchas personas se están mudando de la CDMX hacia acá.
No se queden aquí, por favor
You just inspired me to not only stay, but become a citizen! Muchisimas gracias 🇲🇽❤️
that was a great take from your part, its multifactorial and it wont be easy as you say, im particularly saddened by american people that seem to be more aware of their global north status, and tend to be more open to locals.
problem is theres not enough housing and enough local zoning laws that can provide more affordable housing, we need more of that and better wages
Very nice contribution there Sebastian, thanks! 🇲🇽❤️
You are an easily idenitifiable factor in the price escalations while others are not. The Mexico City Govt could easily ban short term rentals completely as has benn done in other cities around the world but what would the wealthy Mexicans that benefit from the price excalations have to say about this ??
Very valid points! Thanks for sharing JC 🇲🇽❤️
Gentrification is a worldwide phenomenon. Mexico has always been sending people to the US (mainly) for as long as anyone can remember. Nowadays Madrid residents are now complaining that "rich" Mexicans are taking over many neighborhoods of Madrid and increasing the prices to the roof as well, so Mexicans are in fact doing the exact same thing that foreigners do in CDMX. I personally love foreigners, my partner is American and met him in Merida. (I am Mexican, CDMX born and lived all my life), I always treat people the way I want to be treated myself and I understand it is not easy to move into a different country and to effectively communicate with the locals. Learning Spanish is not easy, and it's unfortunate that American schools do not teach Spanish the way many private schools teach English down here., it would make it so much easier to adapt to Mexico.
Such great value added there with your comment and sharing your experiences. Thanks for sharing about Spain and contrasting what’s happening here in CDMX. I really appreciate that! 🇲🇽❤️
@@theropemonsterthere are stupid people ecerywhere, sorry you have those bad moments, people from all over the world are very welcome. BTW is accurate to critize Claudia Sheinbaum 😂, she did the best for the City during and after the Pandemia to reactivate the economy. I don't think mexicans are xenofobic, or against gringos, just a couple of jerks, you should not take it personal.
Welcome!,to México,My Friend.
Gracias Armando!! Muy amable
Its not your fault your are very welcome in México, only landords are rising rent for everyone but thats not your fault, there Will be a New law for landlords to dont rise rents, your are always welcome and contribute to show how Mexico really is from your eyes, i really apreciate your efford and hermano ya eres mexicano ya eres bienvenido haces mucho es lo que la gente no entiende e ignora los malos comentarios es gente que no sabe como funcionan las cosas y se quieren solo quejar contigo ignóralos y espero te quedes aquí en en México hermano 🙏👏
Mil gracias Jeanloo!! I really appreciate your kind words and encouragement! I truly love Mexico and have put forth my best efforts to learn the language. I hope to stay and have a great life somewhere in this beautiful country. Tal vez un lugar con Huachinango y mar 🐟 🏝️ 🇲🇽❤️
Abrazo!
@@theropemonster i really want to see that bro! People like you are welcome everywhere , with the great energy that you have humble and inspiration you Will succeed believe me i can see it! Dont get People anger affect you, its up to them “Conquer anger by non-anger. Conquer evil by good. Conquer miserliness by liberality. Conquer a liar by truthfulness.”
The way you dress, Act like you own the place. same treatment to Mexicans in the USA. Reverse descrimination. we are even. Amen.
Yep, don’t think I ever claimed we weren’t even or equals. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I have a lot to say about this but I will try to condense it. I think you missed one of the bigger points. It’s the entitled Americans, foreigners, etc. that come to Mexico and are rude and condescending. It doesn’t take much to do a search and find videos of gringos behaving badly in Mexico. Matter of fact, I witnessed an incident in Puerto Vallarta myself and had to call an American lady out on her behavior towards other Mexican nationals (I’m a dual citizen born in the states with Mexican citizenship via my parents). Mexicans are some of the most hospitable people on the planet but come at us sideways, and it’s going to be a problem. Then they act like victims, of course (Karens, etc) However, most times cops will side with the foreigners even when they are in the wrong. Imagine how deep that cuts, in your own country? It’s the lack of respect. There are TH-camrs, Tiktokers, IGers, etc making videos about how “cheap” it is to live in Mexico and this is a MASSIVE problem because it’s not cheap for the locals living on Mexican salaries. And so families are being pushed out by all of this. Unfortunately, foreigners often come to Mexico (not all, but most) with a sense of entitlement. This is the real problem. People need to check themselves and be respectful. It is the responsibility of Mexican Americans to call out other Americans on their bad behavior and Americans who get it as well. I was always taught that when I’m a guest in someone’s home, to be respectful or leave. And that’s the mindset that foreigners need when visiting any country in the world.
Don’t get me wrong, there are some people that will be rude on purpose and that isn’t representative of the majority. But you also have to be mindful and empathetic of situations. Gentrification of the modern day term for colonization….its still happening and brown people have it embedded in our DNA. It’s generational trauma that goes deep. Keep these things in mind.
PS - I wanted to say that I appreciate that you speak Spanish. Kudos for that! More often than not your experience will be better when you take the time to learn the language. Some Americans can’t be bothered and this is also a contributing factor to the problem.
Thanks so much for your insight there Liz, much appreciated! I can’t disagree… I’ve seen some behavior from Canadians and US citizens that makes me cringe in disbelief. Definitely a lot of Karens making it across the border. I think indeed one should have a love and respect for a country they are consider moving to, and for its people. I have however been on the other side of that living in Phoenix, AZ, as far as the police automatically siding with the immigrants/foreigners with total disregard for law or justice, so I know how it feels. And yes, it cuts deep and leaves scar tissue for sure. We can always do better, no matter which side of the border we’re on, to respect and understand the culture where we reside, without forgetting our own. Thanks for watching and sharing ❤️🇲🇽
It’s a fun language to speak and opens up entire new worlds! When I was in Ecuador, it would’ve been rough if not impossible to enjoy life there without Spanish.
Bro in the U.S. soaring rents are the fault of greedy landlords. In Mexico soaring rents are the fault of renters. Rich Mexicans and government policies share no blame and how dare you suggest it as a handsome colonizer. Take an econ course and check your privilege.
🤣🤣 and best comment of the week award goes tooooo… cue the music….Mr. Chambliiiiiis *crowd goes wild* 🥇 🥇🥇
@@theropemonster 🤪🤪🤪
Its a public space man even if your Spanish is perfect you are going to sound like another entitled gringo, just that... don't try to make it bigger issue than it really is.... gentrification is a complex issue, many authorities, companies and businessmen are responsible.... Did you really tried to hold responsible to our popular president elect of this problem?
This particular man did it on purpose to try to start something. There’s a difference. I would never randomly ask someone how long they will be. I have manners and speak to people with the utmost respect.
I had a Camero too. I feel your pain
Yea they are money pits and the ‘86 Berlinetta was indeed a pain to work on lol 😂. Paid $1,000 for it though and at that age it sure felt pretty cool to drive with the T-tops off 😎
I want you to know that I will forward this content to Mexico's immigration department!
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Greedy all over 😢😢😢
Hola, déjame comentar algo de lo que te pasó con esas dos personas, por desgracia si hay gente que tiene resentimiento, pero te puedo asegurar que no es mi el 2% de la población mexicana, en general vas hacer mejor tratado que incluso si fueras mexicano, yo creo que el señor que te increpó es porque está neurótico, te apuesto que si yo igual le hubiera dicho que cuanto tiempo más iba a estar ahí, se hubiera molestado conmigo de la misma forma, hay gente así, que está amargada, lamento lo que te pasó y en general te puedo decir que en México son bienvenidos nuestros hermanos Americanos. Las fronteras las puso el hombre y no Dios, y si cualquier persona quiere vivir en otra parte que no sea el lugar de donde nació, lo puede hacer mientras respete claro, el lugar. Te mando un saludo.
Muchisimas gracias!! 🤗🇲🇽❤️
Gentrification is BS! You can stay in Mexico if that is what you want to do ☺
People are free to live anywhere they want, Mexicans go and live anywhere and they want to be treated with respect they should do the same at home with foreigners.
You need to learn more about Mexican culture. Mexico has an honorific system which doesn’t exist in the English world. You were due to say such a thing.
So was the guy who yelled chi*&a tu madre at me for no reason operating in that same honorific system?!? 🤣🤣
why is this in english
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I think Americans improve any place the move to both economically and just in general. We are just nicer people except in airports. People in airports act like total jerks but i think thats everyone. I had many bad airport experiences in Chicago.
Desafortunadamente esa autoridad del 2022 es la ahora próxima presidenta y es una pena que ella abrió la puerta y ahora guarda silencio. Debería decir algo el funcionario que ocupa ahora ese puesto y sacar provecho a este flujo migratorio que son ustedes porque también están trayendo dinero a nuestra economía.
No mames wey. no te hagas victima
Si me griten groseros sin provocación, mientras espero cruzar la calle…no soy victima de racisma y acoso? En varios paises, eso sería un delito. Amenazar = threatening= menacing= delito. So if someone yells at me and threatens me, technically that makes me a victim. Espero que me entendiste. Thanks for watching.
Dont take it presonal bro as a Mexican tell you many Mexicans are in the usa working even with no papers, wouldnt be fare to ask foreigners to laeave you do an efford to learn spanish, talk about
Mexican culture and we are
grateful for that, Just ignore bad comments, mexican governent wasnt ready for lot of changes in the World and People like you that contribute in Mexican econony, blogging about Mexican life, showing other People around the World that everyone is welcome we really aprecciate, thanks for your time and love the walks that you do around the Neighborhood with great quality picture and great energy that you have, also While you show the World how México is we also learn english from you!
Love this feedback so much!! Thanks again for sharing, really lifted me up during my morning coffee reading this!! ☕️ 🤗