DeSantis, Florida Board of Education facing backlash over teaching of slavery in U.S.
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- The Florida governor and the Board of Education are facing backlash, including from Vice President Kamala Harris, over new guidelines requiring middle school students be taught how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their “personal benefit.”
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#florida #blackhistory #rondesantis
I wonder what benefits Governor DeSantis had in mind for the many Black Floridians whose voting power he greatly diluted by his forced gerrymandering of the state.
black vote doesnt matter in FLA. only 15% of the population there, and many are conservatives in nature.
They're a minority, so he doesn't care about them
The "backlash" needs to be REMOVAL. He isn't doing anything FOR Florida. These children will have a worthless diploma.
Unfortunately he will be the next GOP presidential candidate. And all the good little 🐑 will line up to give him their vote. ... He'll be forcing this shit in schools Nationwide
When your abusive father tells you to be thankful for his abuse because it gave you the drive and fight that you have.
Well said 🤙🏼
Are you speaking of Slavery or FL in general?
any abuse black "slaves" got was from "their own people and arabs who enslaved anyone and everyone then sold them as they sell out their own here and around the globe known as Snake oil salespeople. !
@@terriseaton3049Florida is a cesspool of white trash so abuse is probably regular
@@terriseaton3049I would say in general.
"Governments don't want a population capable of critical thinking they want obedient workers. People just smart enough to run the machines but dumb enough to passively accept their situation" - George Carlin
It’s sadly a lot of companies too.
True, the thing that always freaked me out about watching George Carlin was the crowd laughing. He was telling the truth and they were laughing. I just never got that.
saying that with a Mr. House pfp lmao
Theres no such thing as critical thinking you sheep. Its simply called thought. Anyone listening to kackles is clueless. Jesus christ you all. She smells awful after Willie Brown used her up
The question I would like to ask is, could enslaved Africans learn the same skills without slavery?
I put it to you that yes they could. Slavery was a horrible episode in human history that must be told truthfully so that reconciliation with that period of history can happen.
No. They couldn't. In fact, learning a skill trade was often added incentive to come to the new world as indentured servants for people of all races, before the first person (a black man) sued to own a person without them having committed a crime. Before the legalization of owning a person without having committed a crime, slavery was of mixed races. Bringing together many cultural exchanges.
@no.6243 slavery is a universal term. It has happened to every race and sadly still does. That is not the point of traching american slavery history as the slaves in Egypt or elsewhere wernt in america... but we do learn a bit about that too. The point of a black perosn owning skaves doesnt matter either. Like saying a black person supports the kkk.. ok well 1 in 100 people are born stupid it doesnt make the kkk right. And finally ues actually any skills slaves in america learned they could have learned without being wipped and hung and tarred and raped. Reading, writing, farming, finance, whatever. Dont remember the irish immigrants being whipped even though they were treated as 3rd rate people.
Slavery in this country, contrary to what most people believe, didn't jump right to chattel slavery for 400 years.
Whether they could or couldn’t isn’t the issue. They DID, so it was accurate. Why some people would insist this is a bad thing is beyond me. Blacks still faced plenty of stigma even after being freed from slavery. The fact they possessed skills which they learned during slavery to participate in the economy and society is a triumph. It proves they were not subhuman nor mentally deficient. It proves that slavery was wrong. But some people need to insist that black slaves are basically brain-dead work-zombies who are incapable of anything and only good to be rescued. 🤷🏾♂️
I think the truth should be told. Why sensor slavery history?
Maybe people who think slavery was not so bad should try it out for a couple years. I think their opinion might change.
Right!?
My ancestors were enslaved by both the Nazis and Stalin's gulags, and literally every single one eventually died far too young. They were exploited and used up until they died, with no appreciation or "benefit" to anyone but those who enslaved them and benefitted from the unpaid labour!
Slavery is bad, period. It's honestly mind-blowing that anyone would or could EVER claim that slavery was beneficial to human beings.
Mind Begs the Question:
Anti Semitism - Sternly dealt with
Racism,Islamophobia - If not Equally Sternly dealt with
Equality,Elitist?
Racial divide is all the media wants to acomplish and idiots like you allow it. Use your head for something other then a hat rack
Exactly
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying that you think it's elitist to sternly deal with bigotry? Or the opposite?
(I'm going to assume that you aren't saying that bigotry and racist/religious hatred and persecution shouldn't be dealt with sternly.)
They already had skills, and even taught their enslavers skills. This narrative that they were taken outta the jungle and humanized is dangerous.
That narrative only exists in your mind. There is an appalling amount of ignorance about the history of slavery. Some even seem to think that it was invented in the Americas by Europeans no less. Or that Europeans just sailed up to the African costs and started snatching people up. The obvious problem being that even the smallest village would outnumber any slavers by many times and breach loading musket isn't really useful when 20 guys are trying to shove a spear up your ass. The weaker villages were raided for slaves alright, by stronger villages. They then sold the captives to Europeans and Arabs. It was quite the money making setup, unless you happened to be one of those weaker villages I suppose.
smh lol
EXACTLY! When they were taking our ancestors from the shores of Africa, they targeted the ones who ALREADY knew how to cultivate rice, wheat and other crops. They needed those skills and a people who could work in the sun without getting burnt. How could our people learn from such unproductive, lazy people who could barely survive in their earlier settlements. They resulted to cannibalism.
dangerous to their narrative.
It more or less is white mans burden BS. Eurocentrist mindsets refuse to die those who hold those ideals truly believe the world wouldnt function without the mighty whyte man.
Was Africa perfect before the Europeans came? No. It was basically like middle ages Europe aka not a place you wanted to live in unless you had royal blood and even then it sucked.
Most africans who were brought over were civilians(peasants)many were farmers black Smiths and other profession's. Eurocentrist beliefs say africans didnt have any kind of society structures.
To them africans lived in dirt hills and eat each other until the whyte man said "no more".
“He who controls the past, controls the future” George Orwell, 1984
and that's what disloyal blacks are and have been doing!
Are you a large dog?
Wow thats so deep.
@@jernosmerth2141 It’s from a book you never read.
@@jerrypolverino6025 I bet I've read like six books you haven't read isn't that impressive
If people don’t know there past they are doomed to repeat it
I think that is literally what they want to happen
Are you just now figuring out what MAGA is about? Seriously..... it's right in the name. Their whole stated objective is to take the US back to where THEY are comfortable. C'mon man.
"An educated Republican is a Democrat". This is the GOP's biggest fear, which is why they've always been anti-education. They must maintain a base.
Slavery is still happening in Africa, Middle East, Central and South America.
We know the past they repeating it. Biden sorry a.
Slaves had NO BENEFITS.
PERIOD.
What is Desantis smoking!!
Crack.
Either too damn much or not nearly enough, whatever it is 😭
They had food and shelter...thats a benefit.
People in africa are still starving.
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
@@blacksabbathmattersYou are wicked. Eating pig intestines is not food. Living in run down shacks with no floor and broken down roofs that they had no time to fix because they were busy doing slave labor and fixing masters house, is not shelter. Prison complexes today are better than what they had.
Why stop there. They could teach that rape victims benefited by getting a child to love. That's how stupid this is. If Desantis thinks it was so great why don't he try it.
They taught us about slavery in school..seems like learning about it will help understand better about that horrible time in our history.
He is trying to cover up history and lie about slavery being good you POS!!!
It helps us learn about others.
Yeah but HOW it's taught is important as well. I was the only Black kid in my class US History class in 1975 and I was made to stand up and read "Most slaves loved their masters and appreciated their way of life." That was bullshit. The teacher arranged the reading for that day so that I would specifically get that part to read. That history has always been written to make White kids feel ok about it and it's never been a concern for anyone but Black people how it was received. Desantis is electing to continue and add to this bullshit. Sad.
They didn't teach about what happened afterwards though
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” ― George Orwell
When these weirdos cry about “woke” all I hear is “why can’t I be an a-hole?” 🤷♀️
You can tell by the look on DeSantis his face that he doesn’t even believe what he saying.
Oh yes he does! That look is probably from PTSD he got in the war!
How can you tell. He has the face of a robot. No emotion 😂
Only dirtbag aristocrats owned slaves.
@@retroguy9494lol
Mind Begs the Question:
Anti Semitism - Sternly dealt with
Racism,Islamophobia - if not Equally Sternly dealt with
Equality,Elitist?
Well..as a black man myself..I certainly can't expect the former slave owner to accurately tell my side of the story...of course the former slave owner is going to make "their " side look good. Ugh
How do you ignore the fact that the Bmale @ 1:12 actually wrote that mess? How do you skip over BP like him who literally helped enLave us & still helping them now? Rhetorical?s
@@truthserum4life101 💯💯💯
I doubt that you know your side of the story.
@@Matthew_Loutner I doubt you either
@@timothyleebrown1593 Then you would be wrong. I can tell you all about Ireland. ☘
@2:03
"Slavery wasn't a jobs program that taught beneficial skills."
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
just because a slave learned a skill it does not outweighs the horrific status of being a slave. By DeSantis' logic, terrorist learn combat skills and how to operate "electronic devices" despite the fact they killed people for both political and economic gain while hiding behind a religion. People in politics will say anything to white-wash the truth of the matter. I am pretty sure if all the slaves were left to their own devices they would have still learned those supposed skills regardless of being a slave or not.
It's weird that you put words like this in DeSantis' mouth. He didn't write the standards. Moreover, the College Board standards that were rejected by the state say the same thing.
@@TheSchaef47 I am pretty sure he is fully aware of what it is claiming. Instead of being woke it is white washed...how about remove both and tell the history accurately. I didn't say he said the words BTW. But he didn't speak against the concept so he is is still in the wrong as a leader that community. I don't care where the concept came from it is wrong. Those few slaves he mentioned that learned a trade level skills could have learned those skills in any environment, so the inherit ability to learn can not be attributed to being a slave as I stated in my original comment. You want to like DeSantis IDC, but make sure you come with a better argument before replying to my post.
They were beaten, and horribly abused in every way imaginable and made to do the work, because their "owners" were to damn lazy to work a day in their lives. They didn't learn by conventional methods. They wouldn't even allow them to learn how to read or anything.
That is simply NOT TRUE AT ALL. Many slave owners taught their slaves to read and write! This is a well known FACT and is not disputed except by small brains such as yourself and all the other bots in this comment section.
That was the way the entire world worked until the last couple centuries. Slavery was legal everywhere until 1833. Through all of human history and every culture there have been slaves. You have both the blood of slaves and slaveholders in you. Just like everyone else.
This is not true. It seems like everything you believe about American slavery comes from Hollywood movies.
Not all of them were beaten.
See this is the problem....you werent educated.
@@blacksabbathmatters What are you even saying? So if 1 out of 10 where not beaten, then you can say not all where beaten. That's good in your eyes, huh? There were kids in the holocaust that learned sewing. So we should teach it benefited some? Most racist views don't even realize their views are racist.
Our country is moving backwards. This is actually scary
Confederates segregated drinking fountains in Portland 5 years ago. You were silent. Florida teaches the fact that some slaves learned trade skills useful in the country at the time and that is what upsets you?
You realize not all slaves picked cotton and the like, right? Movies are loosely based on reality. You know that right?
Exactly
Some slaves learned amazing skills and used them to build generational wealth/success
it was never moving forward
This fuqn guy 👆
How do you apply the personal "benefit" when most slaves were born into captivity and died in captivity? And this over hundreds of years. And now you want to treat it like you did them a favor?!
EXACTLY! Even after the so called "abolishment" of slavery, our ancestors were sabotaged every step of the way.
Sorry...when you say YOU, who is it that is referring to?
Nobody alive today ever owned a slave fool.
@@andrealomax9044sabotaged right.....thats why alot of areas in africa are at the same stage of development as they were during slavery.
Must also be why the sudanese, congolese, somalian people are all flooding this country, because whitey is over in africa SABOTAGING them right?
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
I for one would like to return the flavor to people like Desantis.
What personal benefit could a slave possibly have? The only benefits of slavery are reaped by the slave owners. The mere absence of freedom meant that they could not benefit from any skill they may have aquired as a slave. This take on slavery isnt just revisionist history, it is stark raving maddness. This is the action of a Governor, a legislature and a school administration bureaucracy guided by systemic racism, fear and loathing. The loathing I refer to is a self loathing by all of the aforementioned, based on a lack of empathy and self awareness that is so crippling that they are unable to admit to and acknowledge the mistakes of the past out of the fear that it may in some way implicate them. That implication is guaranteed by their refusal to acknowledge the past in such a way that they may well have a better future.
Does anyone know if DeSantis has slave owners or overseers in his blood line?
Captured like wild animals and sold off by their OWN PEOPLE.
Slavery in any form is a horrible thing.
VP Harris wants to enslave your minds so that you live off of the government handouts and vote for manipulative people like her.
God gave you freedom to choose good over evil.
Choose wisely.
Quite a few
The learned some language skills
Learned to farm and work the land
Strength. Both physically and mentally
I mean it's messed up and shouldn't of happened but we should be able to find the good in the bad..I always do. Take something anything out of that horror that could be good and used for good.
Your not justifying slavery if you point out that slaves happened to learn some things when being forced to work
@@maryfox1460 For purposes of this conversation. Being a slave owner should not matter to future generations. Desantis is an asshole for plenty of reasons, don't need that to give that reason to hate him.
@@dr.greenthumb211 Again this is an interpreting the best case scenario of slaves back then. A slave is a slave at the end of the day. Everyone learns stuff no matter what they do, that does not justify anything. It is like saying that holocaust survivors learnt useful stuff while being in the camps. Like I am sure some did learn stuff.. but man that is not a good thing.
The only reason they dont wanna teach it is so they can repeat it.
😂🤡
@@leedonald2336 are ya not smart enough to comment with a point or just not smart enough...
Any parent, or teacher in Florida that goes along with this needs their head examined! They All need to standup, and say NO to this, without question. Do it NOW!!
I honestly feel bad for the people who have kids here in Florida. This is outrageous.
As a retired teacher, I am appalled at the
level of ignorance and stupidity and
hypocrisy of the GQP.
They'll have their kids in attendance to learn that mess.💯 This is unfortunately what they continue to vote for. So, nothing to see here, they will continue to just shut 👆🏿 & dribble 💯.
So...teaching black children that they are nothing but victims is a better idea???
FFS...if history hadn't played out exactly as it did, none of us [individuals] would even be here to piss and moan about history.
Move along.
Wont argue with you on this but I'll add teachings on sexuality & gender to young children in the same waste bin. What happened to good ol' math, science & p.e class
Jobs and skills? Sorta glossing over that it was illegal to teach slaves how to read and write. That was some they didn't know their history or their rights when slavery was over. Not much different and how they are trying to remove actual history. And that technical skills program? They were beat repeatedly in order to do that skill with no pay, the only incentive was not to be beat. I think that's an important part of history. Where you remove rights, remove humanity, treated subhuman, exploit, beat, decide what knowledge is permitted... Sounds an awful lot like the Florida de-fuk-us is trying to create.
Ron Desantis will eventually resegregate Florida.
No doubt
Imagine trying to teach kids that slaves ‘didn’t have it that bad’ and they should have been grateful.
Imagine saying the same things about the holocaust, that it benefitted the individuals involved.
@@religionisapoison2413”Jewish people were offered food, shelter, and a job for free” -Florida education
@@InternalLocuss…..Or trying to tell that Jews that classic music was played at death camps for their listening pleasure.
Well they were offered to go back to Africa to their homeland but they chose to stay in the USA.
@@religionisapoison2413imagine being so political you miss the forest for the trees🤡 Ya.. the State Run Media and the radical leftist teachers union want only “America bad America slave country America owe reparation” curriculum endorsed by Sheila Jackson Rayciss.
Ron is trying to out Trump Trump. Pathetic on so many levels.
Keep crying wimp.
Every politician is a corporate baby.
They're enslaved to the corporations
Leftist lunatics afraid of the truth pathetic on every level moron
No one can out Trump Trump. He's the man.
Both are running on who can punish a group worse. Oh and just claim only you can fix e erything with a snap of the finger. They are pathetic people just looking for fame and money.
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
Just disgusting and shameful
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
History isn’t always sunshine and rainbows. Please grow up
@@BoomTribeEntertainmentWasn’t it great when trump lost and think of how great it will be to see him lose again! I’m looking forward to it…
Why are ppl so upset, not even this video gives a quote promoting or praising slavery?
@@arcguardian the Democrats are trying to pull the same thing they did with Disney
Please riddle us this! Why were there slaves in America? Isn’t the taking of someone without their consent kidnapping? Isn’t kidnapping a crime? Any learned skills were taught to enhance the slave’s reasoning for being here. Free labor! The British government has a very thorough lesson on it’s participation in the slave trade and even today continues its conduct of such vile enterprise.
Why do people like you never question how they got the slaves in the first place?
Africa has never stopped enslaving😂
Its not kidnapping when the people are being sold to slavers by their own people.
Lets gloss over that though.
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
@@blacksabbathmatters And once the importing of new slaves was banned, guess what American slave owners did? They creating breeding camps to make more slaves, treating them like nothing more than animals. You can deflect to African slavers all you want but it does not detract from the horrible truth of slavery in America.
DeSantis should be forced to learn a useful skill, then not be paid for it.
He was pretty skilled at torture when he was stationed at Guantanamo Bay
He is evil personified!!
You have some pretty low standards for evil. I expect more from my anthropomorphic personifications of primal motives. Especially evil. Where is the ominous pseudo Latin chanting? While he has occasionally pulled off a slick move or two he just doesn't have the penashe to be a personification of evil. Get better standards or you will always be mired in mediocrity.
Is he your dad?
@blokin5039 No but Satan is yours.
Don't come for me unless I send for you.
In the meantime, sit down and have several seats!!
@@anngrubbs2436 So he is your dad and explains your rampant daddy issues.
@@blokin5039 you are just one sick, repugnant, disgusting piece of work.
Go back to your pitiful and pathetic life.
I don't let people like you, take my joy away.
You are an idiot wrapped in a moron.
So take your annoying and sad excuse of a human being to someone who cares.
As an English teacher, I used to teach Frederick
Douglas. Douglas talked about his "good"
treatment (he was a blacksmith and even got a
little pay). What Douglas also explained, in his
work, was that no matter how well he "had it" as
a job, he was still a slave and at the whims of his
owner. Douglas knew that as a slave he had no
rights.
The point Douglas made was: no matter how
well a slave is treated, he/she is still a slave, still
property, still without rights.
Florida is such a shithole. I wonder if parents
who do homeschooling will have to follow that
dumbass law.
Pretty sure home schoolers do whatever they want
I homeschool my African American child and my husband and I taught our children everything about slavery from the past and current issues we're still facing in hell hole America. Homeschooling is the best option for African Americans period.
I never understand how shitholes
And hell holes can be the most popular places to live. If it’s that bad find you another place that’s even better and don’t let us know when you get there .
Well than sounds like a good way to go at the topic. Pretty much any time from middle school on the kids should be able to understand such concepts well enough. Rather than worry about a "Dumbass law" (Aren't most of them?) Just use it as a starting place to get into the whole thing.
@@zurijames9232 If you think of America as a hell hole I suspect that your child's education might not have been as comprehensive as it could have been. It sounds as if you lack comparative basis upon which to make that judgement.
He is such a malignant force - what kind of people vote for someone like this?
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats but you still vote democrat
Mid-brains, cave and shadow people. People afraid to leave their own homes pretending the world is hurting them
Normal people.
@@Matthew_Loutner if you think Floridian behavior is normal, we know you are are just trolling. Yuck, stay in Texas.
@@Matthew_Loutner Normal blithering idiots???
I firmly believe Florida is trying anything they can to stop people from moving there and probably hoping some move out.
That’s funny because Florida is seeing such a large migration from states like NY and Cali. Seems as though all the blues like the sunshine states taxes and freedoms but want to complain about stupid stuff anyways.
So is California.
Fastest growing state in the nation.....
BINGO
@@ArrakisHeir88I have to agree because I'm currently living in CA, they are lowkey making it hard for us black men to survive without no jobs & making "bilingual" their new weapon to deny us opportunity.
Every time DeSantis's doctor taps his knee to test his reflexes he says "woke"
😂
If I had black or Native American children and lived in Florida, I would be suing the state the second this bill went into effect, using the Anti-Woke/Anti CRT laws passed in this state- by saying this lesson would make my child feel bad.
You wouldn't do anything.
Why would you have black kids in the first place
As a native American descendent you white people don't know my history. So I ask you all stop speaking for us. Because slavery existed within our own tribes
@@luckiistarr7398 y’all are bold till you realize your own vague laws can be used against you. Y’all a bunch of hypocrites.
😂
Ya know, Blacks actually "existed" before slavery, and had actual civilizations which consisted of- kings, princes, governors, generals, secretaries, treasurers, revenue agents, judges, architects, engineers, doctors, historians, language interpreters, mathematicians, jewelers, sculptors, masons, carpenters, painters of art, goldsmiths, leather-workers, potters, armorers, saddlers, blacksmiths, agriculturists, etc. -(from Babylon to Timbuktu page 90)
So how did slavery teach us trades we "ALREADY KNEW" ?
Slavery still exists in the USA, its called, "minimum wage".
It’s actually called imprisonment paid by the ones not imprisoned.
Learned valuable skills??? What’s the value of any skill they might have learned when the enslavers got all the benefits? Most slaves weren’t even aloud to learn to READ or WRITE.
Imagine looking at history books and thinking, “Y’know what’s missing? All the good stuff about enslaving people” 🙄
The first person to legally own another person without them having committed a crime was a black man.
@joeswanson401 So I’m hearing slavery isn’t a big deal because “they learned skills,” and now I’m hearing it was because “well, some Black folks did it too.” What if we agreed that it was unconscionable regardless? And to stop pretending there were upsides?
Anthony was a cruel man.
So you're hearing what you want to hear because your fee fees trump facts. Got it
Slavery didn't just make this country what it is, it made its people what they are.
As stated, the slaves learned skills that they could use to improve their lives. I now wonder if Florida will teach that kidnapped children benefit by learning skills that they could use later in life? Will they teach that Jews and others in Nazi prisoner work camps benefitted by learning skills while being used as slave labor?
Such as appreciation of Classical Music played at death camps????
Talk about opening up a can of worms
Desantis is actually proving why descendants of American slaves need reparations. Keep talking Desantis.
Honestly, it sounds like the other way around. It sounds like he’s trying to keep Black people from having reparations by teaching that they benefited from slavery.
Reparations is a dumb idea slavery ended 160 years ago but desantis is making a bad decision
@@Nicholas-ch5ln this guy is literally making our case for us. You should see how his legal counsel defines woke. I wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t removed as Governor. Let him keep talking.
@@percymirakles we don't need reparations we doing alright stop complaining
@@Nicholas-ch5ln don’t speak for everyone else. If you don’t like reparations fine.
They also should be taught how they became slaves in the first place
or that the word slave comes from Slav. white people.
And they should also know who created a market for slaves IN THE FIRST PLACE.
@@terriehiggins9489 🕎
You should also be taught that African tribes fought each other like all the tribes of Europe did. Africans were no different from others. They took prisoners. It does not matter that these prisoners were sold. What matters is what you did with them. You set out on a dastardly scheme to dehumanise them, to characterise them as dumb beasts, fit only to serve your "civilised" selves. Not the first time that it was done in history, but you also bred them like animals to continue to serve you. And, over time, you managed to convince many of their descendants that they were in fact, dumb beasts, inferior in every way.
And to this day, you are still at it, blaming them for the circumstances in which they find themselves today.
Black people would love to move on from slavery. But then they step outside and you lot bring it all rushing back!
@@terriehiggins9489 Yes their own race
If you can't teach the truth about all of American history then don't teach it at all.
Left want to change history
Why can't little Jimmy know that his great great great great grandfather may have had slaves? This is insane. Geez!
Do you know the frist slave owner in the United states was black?
I see. You want to make little Jimmy guilty for the sins of the father.
How about we tell little Jimmy about how before that his ancestors were enslaved by the same people his ancestors would enslave.
@@no.6243try to keep up with the adults in the room. I know it may be hard for you but at least try. We are talking about American history in which Black Americans were enslaved by white people. All that other BS save for another conversation. We are trying to focus here and don't care for your whataboutisms.
@@no.6243whites want to play the victim's role so badly!
The issue is not teaching slavery, the issue is mandating that it includes positive aspects such as the learning of skills used to improve their lives. It’s like mandating that lessons on the holocaust must include achievements in medicine. While it’s historically accurate, such a mandate comes across as though you’re justifying the means. There are also other ways to cover outside of those lessons that doesn’t weaken/distract from the overall message. Like, you don’t discuss the will AT the funeral.
Kind of an odd thing to mandate I suppose but people tend to know so little about it, a more comprehensive view is needed. People watch movies like "Roots" and think that it is accurate historical fact. It was not and it was never intended to be.
to 'improve their lives'. interesting. the problem is their 'lives' did not belong to them. I'm sure that was not their master's idea.
College Board AP African-American Studies standards, defended by the White House after the DeSantis administration rejected their standards in favor of writing their own:
EK.2.8.A.4
In addition to agricultural work, enslaved people learned specialized trades and worked as painters, carpenters, tailors, musicians, and healers in the North and South. Once free, African Americans used these skills to provide for themselves and others.
THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE TEACHING IN AA STUDIES ALREADY
This is the most frustrating topic. I don't know who makes it more frustrating, the people who came up with this mess or the people who disagree but are arguing from the wrong perspective. Why do you think Africans had no skills? It is not historically accurate that enslaved people were taught skills. They already had the skills. Why is America buying into the misconception that America taught slaves. They didn't teach them anything, the enslaved came here with skills. You people are supporting this allusion that Florida is spreading if you don't stand up for the enslaved and stop portraying them as ignorant slow shuffling wide eyed children who had to be taken care of so nice uncle Sam taught them how to be productive good slaves. Think about what your argument is saying!
@@aprilwhite1794 you're wrong on both counts, what makes it frustrating is that people keep lying about what the curriculum says. It only says that emancipated slaves used the skills they learned to benefit themselves instead of the masters they once served. This is the same thing being taught everywhere else. It's in the College Board standards.
How did it help them later in life when the majority of black slaves remained so until they died?
*it continues : "And I don't think that you can say that there were redeeming qualities to enslavement. I don't think that you can bash the Vice President of the United States for defending such an atrocity* . "
Desantis and his family being of Hispanic dissent would have been treated badly in the days of slavery
They are not hispanic decent. They are Italians
Who hurt this man as a child? My god.
It's their Culture. They must _iss on Melanated people to exist.
Right
Probably some blacks kids beat this little Mexican up and stole his beans and rice and lunch money.
The truth hurts.
Modern plantations are actively run by Democrats.
If u ever leave your state and actually see for yourselves the state of almost every inner city you'll agree
All I gotta say is I’m glad I graduated when I did
Me too
When I graduated ten years ago they were still teaching history.
@nicksimone2988
Our history is lies by our lovely top organization somewhere in DC. Not sure exactly where though.
Your degree in Bullshittery.
So you didn't have to learn actual history? If you did you'd know this is basically straight from Booker T Washington and should absolutely be taught as 1 of the almost 200 curriculum points. It highlights the absolute strength, resilience, and resourcefulness of African Americans as a people despite slavery.
I wonder if those in the camps during WW2 learned new skills? Probably. But does that justify what happened to them?
Why should our history of slavery NIT be taught??? Because it was wrong? IT IS OUR HISTORY!!! You cannot attempt to “erase” history because it was a cultural wrong!! People are supposed to LEARN from wrongs so they will be repeated..
Blatant lie. I
Should we teach that slavery is as prevalent as its ever been? That most of the worlds computers run on precious metals mined by modern slaves?
If you aint a wasp, you are not welcome in Florida. What a horrible governor for all the people
I disagree. Florida is a wonderful state. I'd vote for de Santis
What's a wasp?
@@maximusmeridius6610 White Anglo Saxon Protestant.
@@josephined8576 thanks. That's funny.
@@maximusmeridius6610 👍😊
If DeSantis gestapo at the board of education are out-of-control that's on him
😮 black sellout....
That's what they call an Uncle Tom.
Note to Florida and DeSantis: Enslaved Africans were already skilled
Florida is an embarrassment to our country in so many ways. Would love to vacation or cruise out of there, but I’ll be spending my money elsewhere.
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You're right. But I'm grateful you ain't never coming here. Keep your slow driving ass out of here.
Lmao if it's so bad then why is it so successful? Yea i'm sure New York and California are such great representations of the Country with their homeless tents and high crime rates respectively.
TRY NY OR CALIFORNIA?
@@MelvinJ64
It's not at all successful.
It's not unlike Christian apologists that defend slavery in the Bible.
typical flordia
These mfer’s complaining is really getting old. And news flash black peoples were not to only slaves we are all still slaves just brainwashed to believe that we have free will
We learn from our mistakes so we don't repeat them, something that republicans can't seem to grasp. Maybe they need to be educated.
Maybe their children and grandchildren could benefit by gaining some life skills from slavery!
The assertion that they're attempting to make has got to be the most ludicrous shit I have ever heard-did they really honestly believe anyone, besides their own cult, would buy that load of bullshit? If so, they're more delusional than I imagined! 🤯😵💫🤣
Republican president freed the slaves. Check your history
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
People better leave Florida who would put their kid in school in Florida
FLORIDA: "We're ignorant and proud. Now you too can be taught to be ignorant and proud! Just come to the sunny plantations of Florida! You'll learn some valuable life skills like how to have the worst education system in the country, how to have inflation 3x the national average, and how to run someone else's successful business into the ground."
Lmao. Florida has the 4th largest economy in the u.s.
Thats interesting, im pretty sure people are actually risking their lives to sneak into this country just to get to florida and pick fruit.
Please don’t place that bs on everyone in fla. I have people in Fla it’s only the white republicans and the immigrant Cubans who never had to go through asylum legally who feel this way.
@@chrislukasak8530 well it was before de satan. De Satan better be careful he know the mob still got money invested down there. They loose to much money politics go out the window and de Satan goes in hole in a orange grove somewhere.
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
According to the governor, slaves had a 401k plan, three weeks vacation, free housing and insurance.
It needs to be taught from beginning to end. Starting with The Transatlantic Slave Trade Act. Knowledge is power.
It started long before that 🤣 literally cutting out the thousands of years before that it was prominent world wide in all races. Mostly based on populations, Asian and whites were the most common slaves to find
I'm speaking of how it was formed and started in the USA. Yes you're right it was going on thousands of years prior.
Even speaking about American slavery you jumped a couple hundred years.
The starting point of slavery in this country had paler slaves than that of African origin.
@@shacolatekisses7520 White people only showed up in this planet around 6K years ago. The pyramids and sphinx are older than your whole race. Did you just pull sh!t outta your a$$ and call it facts?🙄🤭🤔
It's as if Ron Desantis is purposely pushing the limits of how obnoxious a politician can be.
And you will vote for Gavin Newsom. Got it.
He's trying to see how Fascist he can be without getting the boot.
@@denisec2426 I vote for the best candidate. Not the worst. Because of Ron Desantis and his Republican Florida state legislator colleagues' failure to address state insurance law problems, I have no homeowner's windstorm insurance for the first time ever, as a south Florida homeowner since 2002.
@@denisec2426 When I weigh the practical relevance of being able to buy windstorm (hurricane) insurance for my home in south Florida vs. the 'need' for kids to be taught a whitewashed and restricted version of history and social topics in Florida schools, I'm gonna have to say my kids are better off not being homeless after a hurricane vs. being taught in schools to consider that through slavery some people, while slaves, may have developed some useful skills (an unjustifiable theory). That's how Ron spends his time and effort: creating propaganda and implementing probably illegal interstate human trafficking schemes involving migrants.
Doesn’t pass the smell test Ronnie boy.
Are they going to emphasize the benefits of Holocaust victims? Why not?
The truth hurts and people try to forget and act as this is something fake
These clowns can't accept reality. I hate this country for so many reasons
it doesn't have to 'hurt' unless you are still conflicted.
What truth?
*it continues* : 'And I think that Governor DeSantis, his campaign has been floundering. He's been looking for attention, and I think that he is now embarking on going as far to the right as he possibly can just to see if he can be the extremist candidate."
I thought DeSantis had better political objectives to focus on. For example: knocking his political opponent Donald Trump out of the Republican Primary. Or did Trump already knocked him out?.
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
She should be focused on trying to keep the insurance companies from leaving Florida and leaving Disney alone. He has cost Florida so much revenue.
The slaves did not learn anything they did not already know in their homeland
I wonder how many Bp actually voted for him 😂😂😂😂.
All the ones who stopped believing the news when Obama said "Trayvon could've been my son" like Obama's son wouldn't have been anything but gay
Uncle Ruckus does have relatives!
You might be surprised and he’s not wrong about what he’s saying. Maybe if these idiots who post actually did a little leg work to realize they didn’t give the entire context of what was said they’d realize it was deliberately cut up to make it sound the way it did. People don’t do that in America though, it would require a bit of work so they just jump the bandwagon ready to pick up pitchforks like the sheep they are.
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
Sooo slaves learned skills while getting beat or even un-alive 😑😑😑😑
Lawdddd this can not be real life 😂😂😂
Is every Republican delusional???!!!
I doth wonder why in the world DeSantis would so vehemently pursue the bright side of slavery. Also, what skills are we talking about? They weren’t allowed to read or learn.
They still aren't allowed to learn to read.
@@learningtocrash4030 facts
I'm so glad my mom decided to leave Florida in the "turbulent 60's" and go "up north!! I attended and graduated from a schools "up north" and that was in 1976! It was in high school that I took my FIRST African American studies class and did so well that I was offered a 4 year scholarship at a "mixed university" but, I chose an HBCU instead. It was the BEST experience I ever had!
That's like saying the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki did some good because they demolished unsafe buildings
The holocaust taught some individuals really important lessons about how to take care of their own hygiene. Is that what florida history books say?
“The Nazis provided free housing, food, and jobs for jewish people”- Florida Education
What lessons were those? Europeans whites had lessons to teach Jews on hygiene? Ever read Jewish ritual in the Torah? Hahahahahaha! Ridiculous!
This is nothing but the devil working … this is absolutely ridiculous and God Have Mercy On All Of These devils Souls
DeSatan strikes again
And let's not forget those colonizers had to be taught how to properly bathe themselves they had to be taught how to farm how to sew clothes how to cook and how to take care of their children what good benefits did slaves learn from watching their babies be used as alligator bait or having your skin peel from their bodies to be used as gloves and purses and shoes ?
Of all the black slaves in the Southern States who weren't whipped, beaten, burned alive, tarred and feathered, castrated or lynched, I doubt many viewed their indentured servitude as an apprenticeship or positive learning experience.
There are 2 sides to every story
@miamibitch305fl You keep saying this... but repeating it doesn't magically make you any more correct.
@@Rob774 sure it does. People want to hear all sides. Not just one sided version
@@miamibitch305fl There is only ONE side!
@@Rob774 for you yes!
I'm black I never even knew anything about the 1920 ocoee massacre. That wasn't even taught in my school.. I was born in the 90s
How soon will FloriDUH Skools lose their National Accreditation? Will Out of State Colleges and Universities continue to accept FloriDUH Hi Skool Diplomas?
I wish Africa never sold their people. Nobody invaded Africa and rounded up individuals and sold them. Africa own did that. Never forget it.
Of course, Desantis would leave out the following parts about slavery that didn't look so good, such as:
1. An old photo of ugly welts on a slave's back that they suffered by being whipped.
2. Stories about slave families being torn away from each other forever on the auction block when they were sold to different owners.
3. Personal stories about slaves being forced to do multiple tiring chores all day without rest.
4. New parents being forced to work while their premature babies died from lack of care.
5. Slaves being bred like domestic animals by being forced to have intimate contact with each other.
You forgot the part where they were already slaves in their own land, and were having the same things done to them there.
@@blacksabbathmattersso it’s okay? Does this validate slavery and the trade and the doing to massive people? “Someone else damaged them first before the US took them as property.” It what it sounds like coming from you. What are you, a child? LOL
We literally learned all this in school and it’s still part of the Florida curriculum
Does the video say he left that stuff out?
@@blacksabbathmattersWhat’s your point?
Mind Begs the Question:
Anti Semitism - Sternly dealt with
Racism,Islamophobia - if not Equally Sternly dealt with
Equality,Elitist?
My big issue is if we are trying to make all equal then the truth of the past must come out. Does not mean violence from one desindent to the next. Or the opposite it's crazy
I mean there really was un intended benefits of slavery does it absolve the atrocities of slavery no but saying the spread of African culture around the western world wasn't a unintended benefit isn't really a rascist remark you can acknowledge the long term unintended benefits of atrocities without actually saying the atrocious acts of said event was ok which I would say is a better way of teaching these kinds of events compared to demonizing and shaming people who never participated in those events based purely on the fact they share the same skin color like a lot of liberal schools are teaching history
DeSantis went rogue a long time ago. The guy is waked out. The funny thing is he truly believes he is doing right for his state and hoping for the country. The minute he’ stepped out of Florida he got smacked in the face.
Name 1 black family owned business that made their wealth from blacksmithing. Name 1 that gained wealth from cotton, that gained wealth from farming, that gained wealth from Slavery itself? This government still owes us and is not willing to pay but will tell us how it benefited us in the long run to be enslaved by their great grandparents. Name 1 black owned business with a mega tower in New York or Seattle next to all the tech giants that thrived in the 1800s. I can definitely Name a white owned business that you see in every single state. CHASE/JP Morgan
Where is their family owned business today? Why didn't it thrive if the money was so good? Or maybe they bought family members and friends? Again name 1 that made their wealth from the "benefits", I gave you chase
George Washington Carver
@@franciscominora2273 where is his family business? Carvers peanutbutter?
@@___xWinterx___ who said anything about business? The point was is that these people were taught and learned skillsskills that they would have never learned if they stayed enslaved under their own people in Africa.
@franciscominora2273 skills that benefited who? Thy slave shall work for thy Master, we so fuckin brainwashed we still worship YOUR God till this day. I can prove that. It's exactly why I asked, SHOW ME PROOF. Where is the trail? You can go to Alabama right now and see some of these gigantic houses with these gigantic fields and those people still own that property, we don't own it. Our biggest problem in the black community is Financials, we weren't taught how to handle money, we didn't own shit for hundreds of years therefore we are still some of the poorest people on the Planet. NOONE HELPED US. Africa is still signing deals with China that are Basically like going to Cash Fast USA. Yet if our entire continent formed a union just like America, we would bankrupt ever other country on the planet bc were full of the most precious resources. It's why Britain still owns a he'll of another of land there today. We in America weren't allowed to vote or be included in alot of high status positions. Our inventions were stolen, ALMOST ALL OF THEM look up all the inventions we've made since we've been here and how many were copywrited by a white person. We have no wealth bc were never learned how to OWN. POVERTY BRING CRIME. Ownership Bring Wealth. Our wealth gap is ENORMOUS.
I would like to hear his entire speech and see the curriculum, because I don’t believe nothing nobody tells anymore.
Exactly 💯
Teach American history for all the good and bad it holds. It is part of our truth, part of what children need to learn and understand.
Yes, but that's not what's happening in Florida
As a immigrant who doesn’t knows everything that happened in the past of this country I can say that word ‘slave’ comes from word ‘slav’ as for muslim inviders slavic people especially their women was their favorite snack for slavery and sex slavery. When it comes to Africans in America they also was sold by muslims to Europeans. Yes slavery is bad for everyone but even low iq person can see that Africans are the only ones who are getting all the benefits of slavery like one simple example ‘the blacks privilege’ today is superior over anything in the USA. But we all know they are programmed to see only the bad side of it.
Well…there is no “black privilege” in America. So maybe that’s why you’re racist. You’ve been taught that black people have privilege and still complain when the truth is that they don’t. There is no black privilege in America. Our society still heavily favors straight white Christian men.
Subjugated property, so everyone in the country are slaves having been numbered and made corporate property by the birth certificate and social security number system. This goes so far as to getting ID cards that don't have your real name, just a name in all capitals showing a fictitious corporate entity which are property of the state.
Everyone in the Florida Board of Education should be fired
The democrats had all the slaves the democrats founded the KKK and all the moments that were torn down were democrats
Oh, the benefits of slavery like the benefits of timely train schedule under Nazis. GMB
Another unsolvable distraction to much, much bigger problems that are happening everywhere smh
No, this is a significant part of one of those large problems. Why do you think it’s just a distraction? Republicans are trying to indoctrinate and entire state’s youth.