First of all. Why would you get in a van and go to a desert area to chill??? Did you lost your mind??? This is Tucson. Trash Town. It’s too hot out there to be in the desert in a van…. To me that’s weird. You could be doing much better things than trying to stay in a Tucson desert where weirdos show up. If I were you I’ll stop all that desert van adventures out there in the Tucson desert and then you go alone. If you ain’t packing a gun to protect you, I don’t know what is you doing. I won’t feel sorry if something happens to you because you aren’t thinking straight. Before you go out there into the unknown, be ready!!!! Calling 911 from the desert won’t help you. I’ll suggest you stop doing this and find a better hobby to relax and rest your mind from your worries or whatever is that you are going through. Better yet, it’s best to move out of this place. I personally hate Tucson and will be moving out in a few years. I just need a little bit more equity build on this Lennar Garbage House I got. Cheers and remember to be Aware is to be Alive!!!! Get out of that desert, it’s dangerous
@@neitel17 Nice victim blaming. I suppose she was asking for it, being dressed like that in the middle of the desert doing her laundry. Just asking for it, yeah - how dare she choose to live her life without being terrified of men? Stupid, eh? /s Funny thing is that she's not the one acting creepy. It's behest upon men to realise the situation they are putting women in when they behave like that, staring silently for long periods of time behind reflective glasses and none seem to possess the social self awareness to stop doing it. It's pretty much a known fact that those glasses are worn by creeps, be they 16 yr old boys or 60 yr old men for the purpose of perving at women. There's no secret what you are up to when you wear them, especially at the beach etc.. It's an instant yuk factor for many women and a sure sign that you are a sneaky creeper. She should not have had to leave because of his behaviour. I really dislike it when women like this lady are told what to do as if they are children, by men- it's up to men to control their predatory behaviour around women, to say otherwise is victim blaming. Not nice. Also, why do you automatically assume she's not armed? I would be in that situation, and I know damn well would use it to protect myself. She would only have had to show him once. She doesn't appear to be at all stupid and she understands what can happen as a woman alone due to the stupidity and bad character of many men. We grow up learning to be highly attuned to men's bad behaviour. I think he wouldn't have walked away if he had tried something, he would have been bleeding out as she is carrying a gun. Being in that situation makes women hyper aware and we think fast and two steps ahead when we are being predated on. He's very lucky he didn't push it further. I think she would have stood her ground, but kudos to her for just getting out of there without giving him at least one 9mm gift to the upper left torso. Once again, stop victim blaming, especially when she's carrying- she has come prepared for the worst situation, we women tend to have to do that simply because some men will not control their behaviour toward lone women. Under no circumstances should women ever have to put up with this creepy shit from men. "Come over for a shower when my wife is there, otherwise she will think there's something going on*" FFS dude- NO WAY. Men like this guy, you gotta stop playing creepy games in your heads, that man is a f'king predator and deserves a bullet in the arse for his wife to question him about. So many older men out there behave like this toward younger women, it's revolting. No, she is not interested in you at all and the comment about the other guy driving around watching her is sheer projection. What a fkn nightmare of a human. If she had been attacked by him, would you say she deserved it? According to your comment, that's a yes. I can't see it myself and I'm surely not the only one. * I'll bet money that shower at his house would have a hidden camera rigged. Not a doubt in my mind about that. Hope the police are well aware of this unit and what he's up to.
I’m a therapist that has worked with convicted sex offenders and murders. He was getting off on telling you what he was doing in a 3rd party fashion to watch your fear. He was very much lining you and the situation up to see if he could attack you. If anyone is in this situation leave immediately at your first chance and report the behaviour to rcmp immediately. You could save lives! You did an amazing job trusting your instincts!!
while I agree with everything you said, I think it took her wayyy too long for her instincts to kick in... it took an entire day for her to finally realize, "fuck him!!" Her biggest mistake was being polite from the beginning, and telling him everything he needed to know about her vulnerability
@@BarryTiredyes please dont share information, rather say my boyfriend is out taking a walk or have some kind of protection with you, I hope she has something just in case since living everywhere
@@BarryTiredshe’s human and we don’t all react perfectly in these scary situations. Plus, this would’ve been an important lesson which she will have learnt a lot from.
And this is what opportunists and creepy perverts count on. Us trying to keep the peace and be polite because we feel rude and like we may be doing our subtle "I'm not interested please go away vibes" and they know it. Change how you respond and go to 100 from 0 don't go to 10 or 50 and think it should be enough. I lived abroad by myself in Italy and was approached followed and assaulted in milan until I changed my response. Mostly by Egyptian immigrants but some much older Italian men too.
That guy has serial killer vibes. He said he was checking to see if anyone needed water then said to be careful of a guy offering water. He was debating whether or not to make you his next victim. You can see it in his face and demeanor
Yes he wanted her to feel fear and dread. My guess is he either #1 needed a backup in case police got involved on camera to show that there was a discussion of some other man so it definitely couldn’t be him. Or #2 wanted her to feel fear and dread when he mentioned both him and the “other man” were offering water so she would connect the dots that it’s him, put away her camera and start packing up, because he didn’t want to be on film, and while she putting away her camera he would have a chance to grab her. I’m sure he was thinking about the camera and wondering whether or not it’s a “live feed” or connected to fb live or Snapchat or something. Scary 😢
@user-ky9uf7tw6b I thought the same thing. He didn't know if it was live reason he didn't act. You can definitely tell he had very bad intentions. I bet he came back right after that and was very upset that she had gone. Whatever soul came a long after she left he probably made sure they wouldn't leave
As an ex policeman I can tell you you handled this exceptionally well. There was no one up on the mountain. He was creating a story to cover for himself. I cannot stress enough you dodged a bullet. His utterly bizzarre silence and staring was enough. Learn from this Alyssa. And thank God your sharing this to help others
I'm not trying to argue, just curious. What makes you think so? I mean to me he looked just like a lonely guy, maybe looking for conversation, maybe for romance.
@@---Vi--- It's a fair point and it's something I did consider. His approach was all wrong for the circumstances.....lone young girl, very isolated and desolate area....basic common sense and knowledge of this era of heightened sensitivity towards violent crime especially toward women should have dictated his approach. The only sane response would have been to say something like " Hi, everything ok ? We live on that farm over there , if you need help with anything just holla . Enjoy your day " And promptly leave . That approach is helpful and respectful of boundaries. If the man in the video was indeed lonely and in need of someone to chat to then he chose the wrong person in the wrong place. There may have been mental health issues too !
@@patrickmaguire1407she didn’t do exceptionally well at all, exceptionally well would have been her hightailing it out of there as fast as she could after the first time he stopped by. She was lucky, next time, she may not be if she repeats what she did in this video.
He could have been a lonely guy, but the staring stroking his steering wheel body language and bs other guy story gave him away. He's going to have to work on his Ted Bundy skills a little better, he might as well wore a shirt saying, "rapist here". Just like a tiger you don't want to trigger a prey response. Don't run stand your ground act calm. The only reason he didn't attack was she didn't act like prey and he thought maybe she was live streaming. He was looking at the camera which is probably why she's still alive. Bad guys are not afraid of cops let alone a tough female with a gun. I just watched a vid where a crazy guy attacked 2 men camping and the sane guys had guns. Noone is safe any where.
Girl if something like this happens again please don’t stay to fold your laundry. Leave right away!! He already knew you were there alone in an isolated location and the things he said about the shower and offering people water were red flags. Stay safe!
I was thinking the same! If that guy was prepared to act on whatever psycho impulse that he had, a recording would not help if he found it and your life would've been in jeopardy. 😣
My thoughts exactly. Minutes, even seconds, can make all the difference, and I know this from personal experience. Bad things happen in the blink of an eye. When he came back that second time he was clearly trying to get her to step away from her van, so he had a plan at that point.
Thought the same. Reminded me if the scary movie when the characters decide to go back a pack instead of just leaving, things are replaceable, you are not. Be safe 🌺
As an older guy, I can say being friendly is one thing, that guy was sending out weird vibes. Some advice to anyone, never let a stranger offer you something to drink, it's a good way to get roofied.
It’s also a good way to get someone close to them to club them over the head and throw them in their vehicle, handcuff them, SA them, etc. No one can ever tell me any different, that man had planned on committing a crime on that woman and I would suspect she isn’t the first woman he’s done this to. He was very at ease with what he was doing and how he spoke to see he does this frequently but isn’t so brazen yet that he comes in and totally takes over the situation. He will be at some point though. I’d print out his picture of him in that quad and give it to police there and tell them about your interactions so they are made aware should there be crimes in that area. You aren’t wasting police time or being paranoid. They need to have this type of info and appreciate when they get it, even if it can’t help them in that very moment, it eventually will. It’ll help other victims of his too.
I bet reports have been made on him already, but no one was able to get such a crystal clear image of him. Most don’t have their camera running or will grab it as they hear that man approach because we are always worried about being polite and not angering men who are creepy af and up to no good.
I've been Van living for over 20 years in Australia. If anything ever seems at all dodgy, don't hesitate throw your stuff in and move .even if it's just bad vibes ,
Girl you never tell them your personal situation. No one needs to know your alone living out of a van! That is dangerous! Please be safe and always go with your gut. I’m glad you was filming
Yeah.. I watched the update and I know she’s carrying but if there were two men you just never know. I’m glad she’s safe but I don’t know why she told them the truth.. it almost felt like when he said “come out and look at this white truck that’s watching you” that he was to grab her. I got a really uneasy feeling from watching this. It made me sick to my stomach.
Huge safety note: as soon as you felt uncomfortable, when he first approached, you should have left. Please follow your instincts and leave the next time you feel like something isn't right. Do not fold laundry, sit to record a chat or engage in a conversation with strangers that you feel uneasy around. If you hear muffled voices, again, please stop whatever you're doing and make your safety a priority. Also, don't let strange men know you're completely alone. Perhaps, even say someone is en route to join you. Having his face on camera won't be very useful if he has your camera. Please be safe!
@Max Larson ..you didn't pay attention to this short video. I'm a native born Texican also. Why should a girl stay and have to ef around w ignorant ppl. I forget which but I saw video by 2 X-Special forces men now. Funny they disagree w you. Leave and leave quick before an encounter was their advice. Not for women, but men also. Period, any ignorant encounter. She has nothing to prove to anyone. Just to take care of herself. As someone who loves to camp, and did 3 wildernesses in 3 states...what is odd about enjoying nature and being fine doing it by yourself at times??
@Max Larson what the hell does equality have to do with knowing your own physical strength against a man who is obviously physically stronger than you? Are you anti feminists so dense you cant connect the dots because you're so clouded by your sexism?
All of his “concerns” were confessions. This is absolute predator behavior. When it was silent and he was staring, it was almost as if he was in his head trying to decide if he was going to assault you. This was creepy and scary as hell. I’m glad you’re ok.
He was definitely assessing the likelihood of her reactions to what he was wanting to do. He wanted her to get out of her van to go look at what was probably his vehicle and not some other person. Probably no wife or kids either. I'm sure it was her reserved, few words that helped alot instead of being friendly. God was with her.
@@AWayfaringstranger180 he wanted her to get out where he could attack her. In the van she may be able to slam the door and make it away as soon as he goes to get off that atv. He was luring her. and he offered the other side the mountain bc he didn’t want her to leave bc they he couldn’t do what he wanted
As a retired correctional officer working 23 years in a prison, I can definitely tell you that he was sizing you up. I'm so thankful that you got out of there. Your instincts were right on. He was bad news. The first time coming around was creepy in itself. The second time, he was deciding if it was the right time to do something. Like you said, you're from Texas and raised around military family. I know you could have protected yourself. You chose to leave and that was the best action you could take. It's sad you can't even go out in the middle of nowhere and have some creep try something. When I travel in my RV, believe me that I'm armed to the max. You have to be in todays society. Sad.
Your comment is true, yet so very sad today. It’s stressful to be on guard 24hrs. Causes anxiety issues, I’m not that old but I remember fun times w/my family camping, vacationing anywhere w/out being harmed. Stay ready, so u don’t have to get ready 🔥🔫.
You're spot on he WAS sizing her up and baiting her. You could tell with intense stare after she said she would just leave instead of move to the other side of the mountain....he was thinking it's now or never. This video legit gave me chills.
We all think we can protect ourselves. Let’s be real. He’s a big guy and she is not that big. She wouldn’t have stood a chance. Hopefully she owns a g*n cuz that’s the only thing that could defend her from someone like this
I agree with this comment. Alyssa, what you did is me. Trusting that what I said was no big deal but I'm not into lying yet I would definately tell him my man went for a walk and then skidaddle out of there. I don't think every human being is awful but girl this is 2023. And you a single woman traveling. No information is good information. Why is he asking about you, respectfully he should wait for you to offer the info or not ask at all. Be safe out there girl. Thank you for sharing! Get a dog!
Agree but apparently that doesn’t stop a potential predator. Noted my experience at a state park above but didn’t mention I was in the middle of setting up camp to look like multiple people were there. I set up 2 kid size chairs, 2 adult chairs and had kid toys in the vehicle window but still the guy stopped and kept asking questions including are you by yourself even though the extra items were there. Turned out he was a creeper entering the state park multiple times on an expired receipt.
You mean like she is doing on TH-cam? She tells strangers all the time that she’s a solo traveling female living alone in a van and where she’s at and where she’s going.
As I see it, his first trip out was to size up the situation and see who you were. Then he left to create the voices you heard (talking to himself) so you'd be quick to believe there really was a white truck out there. Then he returned and told you the white truck was behind that tree so you'd have to come out of your van to see it. You didn't, so he stressed it being important for you to remember what the truck looked like, hoping you'd then come out. The idea was to draw you far enough away from your van for him to grab you without you having any chance to reach for your gun (or another weapon just inside your door), nor could you make it back inside your van to lock him out. These guys tend to follow their own "leave no trace" rules, to assure there can be no police report about it; which isn't difficult so far out in the wilderness. PLEASE make sure the cops in charge of that area have his picture from your video, exactly where you were, and all related information. You're in a position to save the lives of other girls.
I got all of that from it too! He leaves and comes back to tell on himself with some extra flare of truck details. 😳 He probably gave details of his actual daily driver. Wtf!!
Your 100% spot on, she’s so lucky she didn’t go look to see the truck, I guess because she’s been doing it for a while, anyone new could be gone in a flash
@@EUCvibes I feel honored that she took the time to reply to me. I just wish she'd been able to say she's given the local authorities his picture and full information so they can stop this guy.
Girl, I wouldn’t have even finished my laundry. The minute he left after the first time, I would’ve booked it. If you felt he was creepy the first time, you should’ve left as quickly as possible. Your safety is more important than the laundry.
I thought the same thing I thought don’t go over to where he is. He wanted you away from your van because he didn’t know what you had in the van if your instincts say beware then you need to listen to that. Glad you’re safe.
Oh WOW!!!! I didn't even think of that but you're SO RIGHT!!! That guy is most likely a rapist and murderer!! He was CRAZY scary in every sense!!!!😬😬😬😳😳😳
I got a definite creep vibe from the guy, the way he was looking at you like you were dinner or something. Glad you got out of there and glad you’re safe.
I agree . Wanna bet that if she was dumb enough to take him up on his offer, the so-called wife and kids would mysteriously not be around. The dude looks 65 - 70. So.... What kids does he have at home ? Probably None . This really does need to be reported If local LE looks into it... They can verify if he truly lives alone. They can Veiw this film, and see and hear what he said. He will lie his way out of anything... But at least he will be on their radar.
The first time he pulled up he said he drives around there to check on ppl to see if they need any water and then the second time he said there’s a man in the mountain stalking you he said he gives ppl water 😨 he wasn’t well at all he literally told on himself. How unhinged.
Yeah. Low social skills person. He was processing things at a very basic uneducated level. His thought process, though probably much more rudimentary than this, was something like "What might someone do to lure a person? I was going to lure her with water, so I'll say this guy was going to lure her with water." But, he evidently couldn't even process that that might make him seem sinister. I sincerely don't know how he gets through each day with such a mush brain, or how he hasn't been caught for being creepy by now.
i think he judged her initial reaction and then wanted to reappear as the hero who is protecting her from a creep who would be doing something he worked out she pbviously found creepy@@TamaraKane
Thought I lost connection when that man was staring at you. He stared wayyy too long. Very creepy. I live in my car so little different and can't tell you how many men have approached my car. Getting pretty good at shooing them away. Realized being nice doesn't help at all. The quicker you can be rude and just get them out of there the better. After all they are being rude when you are in a vulnerable state. If they are attracted to you then they should wait until you're in a public establishment to say hey. Just like you wouldn't walk up to someone's home to hit on them. Take care..stay safe. Safety first. Have fun!
Major red flag when he wanted you to step out of the van to "see the truck behind the tree". Very good job listening to your instincts and staying in your van.
He was luring you so he could nab you at that moment. The time he was staring at you, near the end, he was reevaluating his next opportunity. Thank God you followed your instincts. Stay safe out there.
He shifts for a moment as if he is thinking of grabbing his weapon to use on her and then decides to back out. He was totally trying to lure her out of her van to "look" so he could grab her.
Also, I think this really needs to be reported to the authorities. He was trying to get you away from your van any way he could. First with the shower at his house invitation, then wanting you to get out of your van and look at whatever in the distance. And telling you to move to the other side of the mountain was probably a trap. He told you to go get a good look at the other guy's truck because the other guy is probably his partner in crime waiting to grab you. (If he exists at all...) Whatever awaited you on the other side was definitely nothing good. Seriously, this guy was trying to set you up one way or another. Who knows how many other women he's done this to or will do this to. Please show this video to the local authorities. You could potentially save lives
The authorities, what a joke .. Unless an actual crimes been committed 99.9% of the time they could care less. Unless there is an actual serial killer investigation in that area cops dont really care. She was just over-reacting to a nice elderly man offering help is what they'd say. And I seriously doubt they bother to watch the video. At least this has been my experience with cops . Fyi I been robbed at gun-point twice, stabbed once , robbed n beaten and my gf raped never a single arrest , all that Tv , law an Order , B.s. is just that...A false feeling of protection hence the reason these creepy old buzzards exist at all to begin with, for all we know he's a retired police captian or sergeant fro somewhere back east .Thats my cynical assesment based on hard experience.
This video needs to be shared on every platform that involves #VANLIFE #RVTRAVELS #EVERYTHINGTTRAVEL so people can be aware of this man's face!! Does anyone know where this was??
HOLY SHIT! The dead silence when he just sat there staring at you and rubbing his thumb on the steering wheel. That's the kind of behaviour of a killer before they attack. You are damn lucky.
@@n0n4m3zz nah, he had nefarious intentions. He was sizing her up and wanted her to move to the other side of the mountain. Which, I can assume is more secluded and he could get away with what he wanted to do. She was in danger and she knew it. Not saying he’s a killer, but he was up to something.
@@n0n4m3zz When a stranger out in the middle of nowhere stares at you like that you bet your ass they're most likely a predator and better get tf out of dodge!
@@n0n4m3zz Maybe not, but I know when to spot someone who doesn't know how to string a sentence together with correct spelling, while trying to be a smartarse.
@@haleynicole7333 Yup, scary stuff, this is why i do think women should train very well and carry some kind of concealed weapon. Scary times for men and women. and he may have done this before or even a few times, i wonder the missing people around that area.
@@johnnylego807 there’s another video someone made that lives in the area that this happened in and he said two girls have gone missing nearby, one who was found dead. Truly terrifying stuff
Always trust your gut. I could feel the tension through my phone, I couldn't imagine what you were feeling. I'm glad you got out of that situation. Stay safe
@@wingedhussar1453….and how is that not creepy to you?? do you frequently go around looking for women you think to be easy targets and befriend them solely on the basis that you might bang later..? because that’s VERY MUCH creep behavior. don’t be a weirdo, get out of here
Dang, even his initial question of if she does this for a living - living in a van - can already be read as a “would someone notice you’re missing” kind of inquiry. It’s so scary.
I couldn’t help but feel the reason he was saying “it’s safer on the other side of the mountain” was to lure you into a more unsafe situation/further away from people if he was to attack you, and you needed help. Very scary, and glad you’re okay!
Also how coincidental that the same day she's there is the first day he's ever seen this other random man who is also out there "checking if people need water." Gtfoh-- thank goodness he's an awful liar and the inconsistencies in his words triggered her gut instinct to flee the area.
Yeah if it's more open he could run her down with that mule he is driving. There's no scrub brush to hide behind and it would be easier to drive that mule with no trees or scrub brush.
The way he said my wife.. and kids he was definitely trying to give you a false sense of security to come over willingly. And him talking about a “man on the mountain” it sounded like he was just describing himself with that same water comment and everything. So glad you’re safe. That was terrifying.
If he was a good man with good intentions and offered to let you shower - but has wife and kids- a good man would not let a stranger into their home to shower. Creepy creepy creepy
He lied up and down. No water, no hose, no wife, no kids, no older make Dodge truck, no guy on the mountain watching you. He tried over and over to get you to leave your van so he could abduct you. Forget the laundry. Get outta there.
I would not have finished my laundry. As soon as he came the first time I would have thrown all my stuff in the van and left. That is the creepiest thing I’ve ever seen and I would actually bring this footage to the police. Maybe they can go see where he lives… maybe find someone that he did something to… I’m glad you are safe. I def had shivers watching this
I think he made that story up about someone watching you to gain your trust, so you would feel safer with him. Huge red flags, so creepy. Glad you're safe
Yeah, and he was also drunk. You could tell from his speech patterns. When he was sitting there it was obvious, he was trying to decide what he should say or do to try to convince her to come back to his house. He didn't have the water with him and then he offers you can come to my home and get water from my hose was a big red flag to me. He was definitely trying to lure her there. I seriously doubt he has a wife and kids living with him.
@@TheLiana1102 definitely, I think he was pushing to see how far he could go. Making up the wife and kids creates a false sense of security. Such a freak.
He was literally playing mind games with her! “There’s a guy watching you, he told me he goes around & offers water” literally the very thing he just told her! I was so confused at first I thought the two of them were working together until she explained it was the same guy!!! HE WASNT LYING! He was actually watching her with binoculars and that’s how he was able to spot her!!
I actually assumed it was another man, who was freaked out by the guy and came to warn her after seeing him watching her. When I realized it was the same guy…I was so confused. His red flags were just..scary.
I just found out a woman named Lizette Martinez went missing from this same area shes in around the same time of the incident filmed here.. Lizette still hasnt been found, so I hope this girl shows her video to police
Although creepy he didnt do anything illegal. By law he has every right to be there on public land. The cops would inform her how unsafe her lifestyle can be and tell her to move on and try and be safe.
@@jacal420 there is no crime in talking to someone and looking creepy but it's always worth reporting ut because later down the line if someone goes missing and that was their last known area then at least there has been reports of a man in that area that has made others feeling scared or threatened previously then those old reports will suddenly become crucial. X
Traveling by yourself or living by yourself in a van is scary. I don’t know how these ladies do it solo. It’s not safe at all especially nowadays because there are lots of people who don’t have jobs.
Dude this pretty much confirms my theory that almost always, a person with bad intentions will TELL YOU straight to your face their exact intentions in the form of a story. I have witnessed this first hand several times and it blows my mind and obvious it is now that I recognize the pattern.
Yup, they get off on seeing your fear as they tell u an elaborate story of some one else, but its really what they desire to do! There's a great comment above from a guy who works with sex offenders and explains it much better than me, apparently it's a thing... Very creepy, at least you have good awareness about such things, alot of girls need to know these kind of signs
@@jgyrwa- Well, none of us saw him on the first round, so we were all blind to his face and just by listening, we could tell what he could've been up to. I thought she was going to leave immediately. My heart was pounding after he came back and she was still folding her clothes. I was imagining myself there and telling the guy that I was live streaming on youtube with thousands of viewers so he'd know that the world was watching.
That long, quiet, fixed stare he gave her was SO deeply unsettling, disturbing and creepy. The hairs on my arm stood up. That is not normal friendly behaviour. That looks like a predatory stare. I’m so happy you stayed safe.
Yeah, it was an agonizing wait for him to say something. She clearly said made a conversation ending statement. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt as just a friendly local guy until that long strange lapse.
He did a lot of creepy things but what got me the most was him trying to get you to come closer to look at the truck that was suspicious to me so glad you're safe thanks for posting
Yep. He tried to get her to come to his house for water, come to his house for a shower (but he needed to be home) when she didn't take him up on those offers he hatched a new plan. He totally wanted her to seek him for safety, then he tries to get her to come close to him like you mentioned. This guy had bad intentions all the way. I truly believe he knew she could out run him with ease and that is the only reason he didn't hop off the atv and go for her. He needed to make sure if he went for her he actually got her because he knew he'd be turned in if she got away.
Yep! He really wanted her out of her vehicle and to come near him with her attention diverted. This creep needs to be reported to local police or the county sheriff. She got a clear shot of his face. Git r done!
He was projecting hardcore...and the way he was stroking that steering wheel as he stared at her...super creepy...self soothing as whatever creepy thoughts he had were dancing through his head. You played that cool as a cucumber.
OMG. Him staring at you was so so so so scary! He was clearly fuming mad that you were leaving and he thought you would just ‘trust’ him and go to a different place where you would be more vulnerable. This is worse than a horror movie to watch because this, to me, is evidence that those people are probably serial killers.
What's crazy is how fast he pulled up. Just laying in wait for a victim. Makes you sad you can't even enjoy nature without some people wanting to kill you.
Yes you could see his body language start to expose his intentions when his stupid crafted story didn’t work, thank God he was dumb enough to not be able to think on his feet.
Or he could just be an awkward man. Jeez you're all jumping to conclusions here. Maybe he was waiting for you to say thanks for warning me about the man watching with binoculars.
@@auraofnorah Do what? This is like the women videoing men in the gym and then shaming them online for glancing their way. One day you might really be in danger and need help but please don't be surprised if no men are willing to risk getting involved for fear of reprisals. It must be awful to live your life in fear like that, thinking the worst of people by default.
Yo, he was def sizing you up and considering. When you told him you were "just gonna leave" a chill ran down my spine. My ma always told me: " don’t tell a man what you’re gonna do or he’ll make sure you can’t do it"… I think he might’ve seen your cam and decided against it. I’m glad you’re safe ❤
Exactly and it’s weird how when she said she was. Going to leave he all the sudden was like “it’s not that you have to leave” like trying to keep her to stay ? After he just told her someone’s watching her lol
@@adorehazel2757right! Don't leave, just move to the other side of the mountain where it's "safer"...okay sure smh glad she didn't get out of her van and that she got the hell outta there safely. Super lucky that guy left again, because being where she was and alone he definitely could have pulled some shit then...but maybe the other side of the mountain would've been easier for him, maybe further from a highway or roads? Maybe waiting to get her at night? The entire thing was super creepy from 1st encounter and something we can all learn from...though of course never know how you'll actually respond in a similar situation but having more awareness of this stuff is good.
I am watching this a year after you posted it. So, I am still going to comment-you trusted your instincts and got out of there, which was so very good to do! I am old enough to be your mama and am so proud of you and how you handled yourself. Great job!!!!!
Gurl, he was going through scenarios in his mind. Thinking about how close other people were and if they could hear you if you screamed. He was assessing the situation. Glad your safe.
Steady on, ms wolf. Sure, it was dodgy looking, but ya ca'nt surmise scenarios ( although we all have) and put them down on here, as if it was an inevitability ! The lass did the right thing and moved on. I would have, too.
I got so much anxiety watching this. I really feel like you dodged something very serious. That man was working up the nerve to attack you. So glad you got out of there.
@@em7937 We all just never know how we will react in these situations. It sounds corny but the absolute best thing to do is practice imo. Maybe this video will save lives 🤍
I hope you are armed. Remember, you don't have to be nice to anyone or entertain their chit chat. Your first instinct was this guy is a creep, you can see it on your face in the video. Never ignore that, and never feel the need to be polite. Don't let anyone that close to you. No. It isn't you being paranoid, that's your survival instinct trying to keep you alive. Listen to it always.
I agree but I think she handled it the best she could in the moment - had she been abrupt or challenging - it may have just provoked him to attack her immediately....you just never know.......and that is the creepiest part of this.
@@batacumba On the other hand, playing it “cool” can make a delusional predator assume you’re more “willing”, meek, submissive or easy prey. You don’t have to be aggressive, but it’s important to stand firm and use your critical thinking skills during these situations. Always be alert! I think I read somewhere that traffickers typically avoid loud children or assertive women. They often take advantage of the ones who entertain their bs.
@@Felicite-Etoile I think she actually did a decent job at this, notice when she caught him staring she said ‘do you need something?’ Which I thought was a polite but pretty clear way of saying ‘I see you, homie, move along now’. And she was easygoing and friendly enough but kept her answers fairly short. I definitely would have hightailed it out of there after the first encounter but I think the second time around after sizing her up further he noticed she was too relaxed being a woman out there alone and probably figured she was armed and not worth messing with.
The shower story was the biggest thing to stick out for me. He said, once he trusts someone, he'll allow them to shower. Then he moved directly to offering his shower to her.
Right!? Then saying “I think it would work better if you would come to my house when I was there A COUPLE OF TIMES since you are “female” so my “wife” can get to know you”. So she doesn’t think something stupid is going on. What a freaking creep-oh!
Right, and insisting of coming over, and specially come when am in so my wife cant think weird shit 😮😮😮. Is already weird 🤢🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️..... Ohh fuck the 1minute staring... I'm mad 😡😡😡 am a people person but you vented to much to him ...
@@rativiper I 100% doubt he has a wife. I saw this other clip where an awful man told a mom "oh my wife will meet us in the next store," which gained the mom's trust. Turns out he had never had a wife (just said it to make himself seem more trustworthy) and he ended up kidnapping and harming/killing the mom's daughter :(
It is so amazing she caught him on camera. Everyone wants to criticize women when this happens because they want to believe this is avoidable, but she really did good.
No she didn’t. You women sending the wrong message to young girls watching this. This was a prime example of what not to do. Feminist got y’all out here on some, equal to a man bs. She should she packed up immediately after the first encounter, no excuses. Folding clothes could have costs her life.
@@jgyrwa And let me guess, your a man? What would you know about this kind of stuff? Its not sending "the wrong message" bc its helping everyone to be aware that this kind of stuff can happen. I know it sucks but it can. 🙁
@@jgyrwaI think that, yes, she made some mistakes which she likely learned from especially after sleeping and analyzing the situation. The way I see it, the 1st encounter set off her intuition which made her feel a bit uneasy...however a lot of women try to "relax" and not "jump to conclusions" about something that actually could have been innocent (as women are literally told this shit all the time...stay safe but don't be paranoid! Definitely an oxymoron). Therefore she put it to the back of her mind and went on with her day and finish what she was doing before moving on. However, a big mistake was giving him all the info he asked for to know her vulnerable situation, and a huge red flag the 1st encounter was also when he told her "well if you do end up staying I'll see you again." Yeah she should've left right then to not give him another chance. But hey if she had done that, then the men here would definitely be saying oh he was just making small talk and being nice "seeing if anyone out here needs water or anything" YET she was the only one out there! Had she left the 1st time, though yes she put herself at higher risk, it wouldn't have had the same teachability that the 2nd encounter had... We as a group are analyzing more and see that yeah an encounter like the 1st should always be an indicator to get the hell out and always listen to your gut feeling no matter what. Women are always taught not to be rude or be polite or whatever smh though in her case I believe being polite did help not escalate anything because with his body language he sure looked agitated
When he came back he was so wasted he forgot his first story. Police need to investigate this man. He’s probably got bodies out there. So glad you captured this and you are safe!
Right?! That was my thought, maybe not bodies (or maybe so 😬) but a strong chance of voyeurism or other sex crimes. Guaranteed he would have set up a hidden camera in his bathroom, or just entered to assault her.
Right?! Dude went home to get some liquid courage and came back and forgot he was the one who is supposed to “be checking if people need water”. That long pause at the end was him contemplating on making a move or not.
Girl. The fact that you stayed after the first interaction is scary. Any solo female watching this PLEASE do not stick around and try to be brave. Get the hell outta there as soon as you get that gut feeling. This could’ve ended so much worse. We all know what this guy was up to.
Yeah. Best to stay in a populated areas, like a hotel parking lot. He was watching her, he was talking about himself. Too dangerous to be alone in isolated areas being a female, it’s just fact. Must be armed up. This is a crazy world we live in.
The second she said she was leaving you can tell that his demeanor changed. Weirdo probably had a whole plan in his head and when she said she's leaving he was furious. Scary cause during the long pause, he's probably realizing his original plan has failed...so he's trying to decide if he should attack her right now or not.
@@nofurtherwest3474 Hate to say it but he was probably going to lure her to his house or attack her. Who knows what these freaks are capable of though. I've heard of people carrying syringes so they can inject you with something and you pass out. Scary stuff.
I agree! He wanted to lure out of the van by telling her she should get a good look at the white and burgundy truck. He was definitely trying to size her up. Satan will always send his demons but God ALWAYS WINS in the end!
@@nanewtofthenorth He was contemplating about making fast swift move to attack her then & there but then for whatever reason he decided against it. Thank God he did & she high tailed it out of there. God had his hand of protection on her that day for sure!
Yeah but if you go back & look at the part where he says "come right here & you can see it" she edited that part out & when it went to the next frame 10:12 You could see her lanyard/keys like she did move or get out to see! My thing is he was talking about a guy that was far away up on a mountain yet pointed to "a truck" that was within her view & she had already said there was no one around/out there. Surely if that truck was there she would've already noticed it.
Like dude your so nice. I understand not triggering anyone to act out in a bad way however if a person comes to you offers you help, water, shower at theres ect you lock your doors you leave. Pls just be safe i think its better for you to go rest at an actual rest stop from now on! Be safe girl! Im sorry you went through that.
Working with inmates that are sex offenders. He absolutely gave off the predator vibes. He’s gamey, trying to invoke fear, invade your privacy multiple times. He’s speaking of his self in third person. Separates his violent personality from his mild personality. He wanted to smell her as well. He was disassociating himself. The other side of the mountain was a set up too. That wasn’t his first time.
"that wasnt his first time" theres no way you think from this HIGHLY emotionally manipulative video , that you have certainty he was going to hurt her and has in the past thats a crazy statement to make off of one scared teens reaction lol
@@kiIIcamsI absolutely agree with you. She even said she heard muffled male voices in the distance but everyone is overlooking that and saying he made up this mysterious man. People are saying for an albi? If he attack her she will know it was him if she was even able to talk after. And we don't know if he was staring at her the whole time, he had ion sun glasses and could have been looking past her. I of course don't know his (or her) intentions but people are really running with one theory. These will be the same people that will shame her for assuming every man is a predator. I know a lot of older people that are just not in a hurry. Either way, I liked your comment.
No man in their right mind whatever come out and do that to a young woman without looking very very shady. his returning his making comments somebody's watching her and just staring at her was the eeriest thing I ever witnessed. I'm not sure why she didn't leavr 7:41 after the first time he came to her Van? Some of the young women that are doing is bad life, in my opinion, take far too many risk and that's all there is to it. I'm surprised we don't hear More things have happened
The way he stared for so long in silence rubbing his thumb on the steering wheel like he was fantasizing something real creepy. Im so glad you made it out of there without him attacking you. It really looked like he was gonna do something.
I thought she did great. But should've left after the first encounter. Also maybe not saud that comment about housekeeping. He mightve been trying to figure out what that meant. " better than doing it in a crowded city " or whatever that sentence was. Hope this was shared w pd
100 % agree with your thoughts. He was sizing her, his body language shows his elbow pointing out straight to her direction leg wide opened ready to step out of , for no good that guy is a creep, sure he was up to no good. I’m glad she is safe😮
I feel like the guy telling the girl to step outside to get a better look was his way of making her more vulnerable and easier to snatch. I know she’s alone there regardless but who knows with that creep. Just my two cents
You have to immediately tidy up whatever it is when the first person comes and leave it May all your journeys go smoothly and don't relax when a stranger comes
@@ctt7971yes and I study body language and the way he was moving his hand and fingers on the wheel he was thinking or contemplating something. I would think it’s what he may or should do and I’m sure Before she made him snap out of it he was living out what he would do in his mind.
Me too! When he asked her to go over to him so he can point out the van, my spine got a little numb😅 the way he was staring at her afterwards gave me palpitations... I am so glad she is safe. What a nightmare situation that could have been
What's distributing to me is when he first turned up, he sounded so convincing. Up to the point where he started talking about showers.. then it wasn't so convincing.
Wow, brand new to your channel. That incident was very scary. But I love that you were able to film the encounter - very smart of you!! Stay safe out there!
at 11:23 during his long stare, he then moves his arm, opening up, getting one step closer to go do what he was thinking about doing, but YOU were so incredible!!! You bravely and directly straight to him asked "do you need anything?" That remark totally snapped him out of his fantasies!!! GREAT JOB asking so straightforward!!
Yes! I was about to comment this. I also noticed his hand was moving closer to whatever he had in his left pocket... she literally stopped him just in time and I’m so grateful.
Absolutely terrifying. Worth getting him checked out by the police. When he said he had a wife my first terrifying thought was he was trying to lul you into a false sense of security so you trusted him. But when he said he had kids I was so scared for you, he looked waaaay too old to have young kids still living with him he just wanted to seem legit so you’d go to his house. When he told you to come take a closer look at the van I was nearly sick. Thank god you got away safely. 100% a predator.
Regardless of if he has a wife and children He was 100% attempting to manipulate her. Many predators do have wives and children. But they know they can use that information to manipulate a person into doing what they want. In this case he wanted her to relocate. Come to his house, move to the other side of the mountain and come closer to get a better look. He’s testing how he can manipulate her and if he can get her to do what he says.
@@Lheitz05 Many do have a wife and or kids and many don’t. Like I said, I don’t think he does at all. He was just using it as a way to make her trust him so she feels safe enough to go back to his house because females are way easier to trust to other females especially one’s travelling alone.
This is my first time watching her videos and she seems nice and funny, however, she was way too friendly to a stranger. I understand being polite is ingrained in us, but the multiple questions from a stranger would have been a huge red flag and I would have cut the conversation and told him I wanted to be alone. It’s better being thought of as unfriendly person than a non existing friendly person.
My reading of the situation: -Over explaining like Alyssa mentioned -He either didnt pick up on or didnt care about the non-verbal cues that were given in the first convo; she wasnt interacting much, it was clear she was not interested in the interaction, yet he lingered around. He is excited/getting a thrill out of talking to Alyssa -In second convo his objective is to get you to move to the secluded side (hence the elaborate plan) -He doesnt like that you said you will leave, "its not that you need to leave" -When you wants you to look at white truck, he at min wants to get close to you (thrilled by the thought likely), if you had its possible he would have tried something right there; serial killers/attackers often retell stories just like this where "opportunities" or plans change on the fly; they often dont need to be masterminds to commit their crimes -As you say you will be leaving soon, he replies "well thats your choice" (a subconscious tell that he's not happy about it; like saying "honestly" right before you lie) -As he stares he is frustrated that things arent going to plan and hes about to loss you; he is trying to figure out what to do; apart of him wants to do something right then You broke him out of the trance at the end. Police probably wont do anything BUT it would be great if there was at least a paper trail about this event. That way if anything happens again with someone else it wouldnt be the first incident on record (or worse scenarios as well......)
Either he knew sge was filming or he sensed she would/ could fight him. That was very disconcerting.. to pause like that. Freaky. Sure hope this was forwarded to LE
It's the preoccupation with the shower that really makes me (as a guy) stop and start questioning his motives. Respectfully, women don't have as good of intuition as they think they do when it comes to men. Guys would probably confirm that if they were being honest. What a woman CAN do is take note of different factors such as body language and use those as a way to avoid (possible) danger. Unfourtunately, different kinds of men display different types of aggression, so what alarmed women in this clip might not warn them if another age or demographic of man was a threat to them.
@@matthewmosier8439 I made mention of the shower obsession in 2 otter comment threads and his mentioning his wife several times was a giveaway for me. Not so much the wife word but the placement of the mention . I would've been out of there ( prob wouldn't have parked there to begin with ) on the first pass through. And many other things I would have done differently. . I don't think iys gender based per se I think some people have better intuition( and Follow it). Than others..esp when it comes to violenice ( not just flirting etc) Having said all that I think she handled it well ( except admitting being alone and doing " house chores " and not leaving first time) For a younger person and def she gave him a vibe of onto him / strength at the end I think she had protection w her as well The offer of shower repeated was a strong tell. The other guy w water too I believe most predators wouldn't be this obvious .and that's the highly concerning part
@@natashab3412 I wasn't suggesting that women specifically don't have good intuition. I meant that they don't understand men nearly as much as they think they do. I happen to know this because I've worked on two man teams, myself and another guy, quite a bit. We would be in customers houses installing kitchen appliances. Women were transparent with how they felt uncomfortable around me (I'm quiet) by leaving the room whenever I would walk in after going to fetch a tool, etc. The guys I worked with were often womanizers. Not really upstanding people, sometimes. Definitely not good boyfriend material, often going on about women other than their wives or girlfriends when we were working through the day. Women loved them, though. They would sit there and listen to lies about how they had things under control with the install when they were having problems and didn't really have a fix for them and were bluffing, and the women ate it up because their instincts didn't fire due to the guy's personality. It was just so ironic to watch it day after day. That's what I'm drawing from whenever I hear a woman talk as if "her intuition" can sniff out threats. I'll readily admit that guys can be just as misguided when trying to vet girls to date.
@@matthewmosier8439 Men can and do fall for cons scams all the time In business etc. Humans do . And women can use men without them knowing as well I would agree that many women don't realize the level & the nature in which men talk about them w each other in groups. Often guys most people wouldn't expect would be that way. But again, easier Sussed out if one has well honed senses Most mature experienced alert women i know wouldn't fall for the house repair or car repair bs .& the overly " ill save you " vibes. As well. someone being quiet isn't a tell in and of itself.. certainly not. I've always been highly perceptive w males and females too. I def think , for the most part. , its more to do w the individual than gender based . But fr yoir prospective and your job perhaps you view that behavior more than you'd care to. I worked w a younger fairly attractive mostly intelligent guy .. he was being totally played by this one girl he was dating. She constantly laughed about it too We told him exactly how.. but . He really bought into her bs. Thats one of hundred examples I've seen. It goes both ways imo Statistically men predate more But they attack other males frequently too. Everyone needs to have their guard up even more these days it seems Too much societal disconnect trauma etc
1. He sounded drunk. 2. He was definitely describing himself with the watching/giving people water 3. He wanted you to move to “the other side” because that’s where he’d be more comfortable attacking you
@@fayettevillain1171 Obviously. But why is no one saying what they think he wanted to do? They are saying that he wanted to grab her or attack her etc. Personally I think he wanted to rape her. TH-cam will probably delete my comment for using that word eventhough it is the word used everywhere else for that crime. Why are people afraid of using this word on TH-cam when it is accepted everywhere else or why are TH-cam banning a perfectly legal word.
And if she took any water from him it would almost certainly have been drugged. And if he's not a serial killer this guy needs some mind his own freaking business.
You’ve got guardian angels watching over you. There was no other person on the hill. He was the person on the hill, watching you with binoculars. I would show this to the local police. If he’s harmed anyone, it could be the tip they’ve been waiting for to solve a crime.
I agree. He was watching you from the hill and wanted you to know it. He was getting off on frightening you. He's a wrong'un. So glad you got out of there. What a piece of shit.
@@Young_TechiezDecent but socially awkward people who know from experience that people can become defensive sometimes feel a need to attempt to reassure. Most people are just lonely and looking for any moment of connection. The guy in the video not included obviously.
They sure do, birds have alerted me to Stalkers quite a few times!! Note to everybody here: IF YOU HEAR A BIRD CHIRPING AT NIGHT, SOMEONES NOT GOOD IS AROUND.
As a mother of daughters older than you. I was so disgusted and angry over this old creepy man and yes, he was serial killer material 100% and he was scoping you out. You would have had a visitor in the Night maybe just to disable your tires or do something to keep you there. You handled yourself wonderfully and did the right thing to leave asap. This is a great learning tool for others especially young women traveling. Thank you for posting this.
You would think someone who loves her wud tell her she putting herself in a vulnerable position to began with js yall watching her content for entertainment but yall shud game her up n tell her to stop this before she comes up missing if yall really so called like or fw her
Telling people you're a nomad means it wouldn't matter if you disappeared. No one would know if you disappeared. Just remember you don't have to tell everybody everything. They're strangers. You can lie to them too
The long creepy stare wasn’t hidden under those sunglasses. He was clearly deciding whether he was close enough to attack you or not. So spooky I have the chills. Glad you’re safe❤
Exactly.. Everything about him was screaming this, as well. His body language, the weird lies and like she pointed out, over explaining why/what he was doing. That awkward pause was terrifying. He was definitely contemplating what to do. When he was describing the guy's "truck" that was near, he asked her to, "come out" and he'll show her. Definitely a rouse to get her closer! Soo scary! I'm glad she has common sense!
He looks like he was contemplating doing something to her. He's creepy. He doesn't have a wife, thats the last women he tricked to go to his house for a shower. That person watching you is him and he's the same guy offering people water. Worth reporting to the police in case someone goes missing.
And why was he there in the first place. He not a ranger and is driving in one of those golf carts. I see a lot of cases were deserted areas are usually dumping sites for bodies, waste, etc. I know this is a year ago but girl. And you’re right he has no wife.
@@COSMLOOP legally he did not do anything that would justify her doing anything, but she could have been more direct with him to let him know he was not welcolm there. I would have told him not to worry about me that I did not need water or anything else and that I had the means of taking care of anyone that troubled me, he would get the hint. tell him not to bother me again, use those word and use them strongly. Then leave the area. Creepos hate it when they have the tables turned on them and they go away to find another victim.
When he was staring it looked to me like he was deciding to quickly jump off and grab you or not. This is really scary. I hope the cops look into this guy
What sealed the deal for me was when he told you to come over to him so that you could see the white truck. I am so glad that you did not lower your guard and go over to him.
Yup the fun times of being female and travelling alone. Personally I would have drove away after the first guy paid a visit and folded laundry later 🤷🏻♂️
No s*** that was freaky as hell! That f****** weirdo was contemplating in his mind right then & there in that moment whether he was going to do something or not.
@@cassandramartindale7727 OK but she mentioned that she thought she heard a couple of people talking in the distance so it made me believe there might have been 2 different people.
Exactly! She should have left as soon as he came up the first time! And she's saying she's full blooded Texan means nothing to a person who could hurt her since she was out there alone. She didn't know if he had a weapon or not. Safety should be a priority and being in an area with other people around is important.
Exactly! At one point it looked like he was gonna make a move toward her but changed his mind. It was incredibly stupid of her to continue folding damn laundry instead of thinking of her life and getting tf out of there as soon as she felt uncomfortable the first time he came around!
Did it ever occur to ANYONE that maybe he was staring off at something behind her? A car driving on the road that he right he recognized, or someone driving fast... who knows. Nobody saw his eyes, so nobody knows where he was looking
This was the creepiest nomad video I have ever seen. Im so glad you got him on camera. But you took way too long to leave. Never feel obligated to be friendly. Never feel like your just being paranoid. This guy was going to do something.
Absolutely, the vibes were so off key! No decent guy would approach a vulnerable woman alone like that because he knows how it might appear to her. He was a predator especially when he started claiming someone else was doing exactly what he was doing and he knew she knew
When someone talks to you like that, you leave immediately. You don't fold your laundry, you don't wait for them to come back, you go. You dodged a bullet.
Do you know what it's like to have a social media platform doing everything in its power to make sure nothing you say is seen by the public? 😂😂😂 Even making up new rules to the English language? 🤣🤣🤣 TH-cam LEAVE ME AND MY POSTS ALONE!!! NOTHING I HAVE SAID HAS VIOLATED ANY OF YOUR RULES AND GUIDELINES!!! I AM ALSO FILMING MYSELF TYPING THIS COMMENT!!! *SO LEAVE ME ALONE!!!*
You handled yourself really well, you were calm, didn’t show any signs of distress, you went along with his made up narrative, you had him on camera, you kept him engaged and not brushed him off, and you asked him for his name. Brilliant.
Yes bc my scary ass probably would’ve startled him just by my sudden moves, I would have driven over my solar panels, and probably hit one of those desert holes. So I give you praise for remaining calm during this terrifying episode. This has such horror-movie vibes. WRONG TURN...utterly terrifying!!!!!
The guy had no water with him. And high key just stared for 6 minutes no conversation. As a man of God I believe in prayer over violence but srlf defense is a wise necessity as well. I wouldn't have drank anything he had it was probably drugged. May God bless cover and keep you and messengers of God minister to you as you journey. And may God have mercy and heal the minds and hearts of men like that.
This was my thought too! Always make them think you have a man with you. Or that you know a man in the area who is on his way to meet up with you (like your brother, dad, boyfriend etc) that you sent your location to.
I have a friend who stays nomad as a female and will put male boots outside the door of a night to make people believe there’s a male inside, and also has male things in her van to throw people off. Highly recommend sad that us women can’t enjoy the beautiful world stress free but please be safe 🤍
Alyssa, I just started watching your channel & Subscribed & am loving your journey!!! "I'm a Retired Law Enforcement Veteran & when I heard that you were raised by a Military Family, I certainly know that you're smart enough to have some Protection onboard your vehicle, so just as a word of precaution, you should sincerely invest in a secure, floor mounted or glovebox mounted safe so that your Protection is secured while you're away from your vehicle showering, etc!!! Stay safe out there in your travels,Respectfully,Robert
He definitely tried to lure you closer, was quick to put his sunglasses back on to conceal his eye movement. I am glad your safe, retired Deputy Sheriff and Police officer.
The fact that the first thing he says to you is that he makes rounds to see if people in the area need water and then comes back and talks about *that other creepy guy* who makes rounds in the area to see if people need water ... Dafuq. Guy is literally so messed up in his creepster mind that he couldn't even come up with a better cover story than talking about himself as a different person. Ayayaye
@@XxSuicidalNinjaxXI thought it was a different person for a bit lol. He sounded similar but kinda different with the slight slurring so I thought oh that's a different guy because why would this genius think he could fool someone into thinking that *someone else* also said they like to give water to strangers?? 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
That guy was creepy af. Especially the way he was stroking the steering wheel and staring at you. It’s like he was contemplating how best to grab you. He wanted you to go over to him so “you can see the truck better.” Your instincts were right. There was no one else watching you. Stay safe girl and God bless you!
Agree- the part where he was staring and rubbing his thumb on the steering wheel, was unnerving. He 😂def had sinister plans. Glad you took off and are safe🙏🏻
That guy on the ATV was creepy as sh!t! I’ve been on the road since November 5, 2020. And I’ve had my share of “strange people” approaching my and my vehicle. Worse one was in the Salt Wash near Moab Utah near the Crescent Junction rest stop. It was smart to leave immediately. You should carry some pepper spray or a pistol. Trust me, I’m a retired army sergeant and don’t mess around with nonsense like that but even I carry a pistol and a shotgun when on the road! Best of luck and stay safe out there! 🇺🇸👍
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I live 6 minutes from the BLM camp... thank you for sharing this. I will watch out for this guy.
We need to find out who this guy is there is no telling what he would have tried if you stayed.
First of all. Why would you get in a van and go to a desert area to chill??? Did you lost your mind??? This is Tucson. Trash Town. It’s too hot out there to be in the desert in a van…. To me that’s weird. You could be doing much better things than trying to stay in a Tucson desert where weirdos show up. If I were you I’ll stop all that desert van adventures out there in the Tucson desert and then you go alone. If you ain’t packing a gun to protect you, I don’t know what is you doing. I won’t feel sorry if something happens to you because you aren’t thinking straight. Before you go out there into the unknown, be ready!!!! Calling 911 from the desert won’t help you. I’ll suggest you stop doing this and find a better hobby to relax and rest your mind from your worries or whatever is that you are going through. Better yet, it’s best to move out of this place. I personally hate Tucson and will be moving out in a few years. I just need a little bit more equity build on this Lennar Garbage House I got. Cheers and remember to be Aware is to be Alive!!!! Get out of that desert, it’s dangerous
@@neitel17 Nice victim blaming. I suppose she was asking for it, being dressed like that in the middle of the desert doing her laundry. Just asking for it, yeah - how dare she choose to live her life without being terrified of men? Stupid, eh? /s
Funny thing is that she's not the one acting creepy. It's behest upon men to realise the situation they are putting women in when they behave like that, staring silently for long periods of time behind reflective glasses and none seem to possess the social self awareness to stop doing it. It's pretty much a known fact that those glasses are worn by creeps, be they 16 yr old boys or 60 yr old men for the purpose of perving at women. There's no secret what you are up to when you wear them, especially at the beach etc.. It's an instant yuk factor for many women and a sure sign that you are a sneaky creeper.
She should not have had to leave because of his behaviour. I really dislike it when women like this lady are told what to do as if they are children, by men- it's up to men to control their predatory behaviour around women, to say otherwise is victim blaming. Not nice.
Also, why do you automatically assume she's not armed? I would be in that situation, and I know damn well would use it to protect myself. She would only have had to show him once. She doesn't appear to be at all stupid and she understands what can happen as a woman alone due to the stupidity and bad character of many men. We grow up learning to be highly attuned to men's bad behaviour.
I think he wouldn't have walked away if he had tried something, he would have been bleeding out as she is carrying a gun. Being in that situation makes women hyper aware and we think fast and two steps ahead when we are being predated on. He's very lucky he didn't push it further. I think she would have stood her ground, but kudos to her for just getting out of there without giving him at least one 9mm gift to the upper left torso.
Once again, stop victim blaming, especially when she's carrying- she has come prepared for the worst situation, we women tend to have to do that simply because some men will not control their behaviour toward lone women. Under no circumstances should women ever have to put up with this creepy shit from men. "Come over for a shower when my wife is there, otherwise she will think there's something going on*" FFS dude- NO WAY.
Men like this guy, you gotta stop playing creepy games in your heads, that man is a f'king predator and deserves a bullet in the arse for his wife to question him about. So many older men out there behave like this toward younger women, it's revolting. No, she is not interested in you at all and the comment about the other guy driving around watching her is sheer projection. What a fkn nightmare of a human.
If she had been attacked by him, would you say she deserved it? According to your comment, that's a yes. I can't see it myself and I'm surely not the only one.
* I'll bet money that shower at his house would have a hidden camera rigged. Not a doubt in my mind about that. Hope the police are well aware of this unit and what he's up to.
Girl, if some stranger says you can shower at his house, you leave immediately. Please trust your instincts. You can fold your laundry someplace else.
You ain't just a whistlen dixie!! This was not his first rodeo. That laundry can wait!!! So glad she's ok
And you know that his place would be full of cámaras everywhere filming whomever is taking a shower too! # nasty old gizzard pervert!
I hope you holding while you out there… his creep a$$ probably followed you
9:23 is that the same guy?
Wow that creepy guy told him the exact same story that he told her. Strange coincidence.🤣
Always open 2 chairs 🪑in your campsite so people think there’s more than one person, not a solo female.
Great tip.
yep, my dad always told me to open 2-4 chairs so it appears you're not alone.
And doggie bowls with food and water...
Or just get a gun and learn how to use it
These are all really great tips!
I’m a therapist that has worked with convicted sex offenders and murders. He was getting off on telling you what he was doing in a 3rd party fashion to watch your fear. He was very much lining you and the situation up to see if he could attack you.
If anyone is in this situation leave immediately at your first chance and report the behaviour to rcmp immediately. You could save lives!
You did an amazing job trusting your instincts!!
while I agree with everything you said, I think it took her wayyy too long for her instincts to kick in... it took an entire day for her to finally realize, "fuck him!!"
Her biggest mistake was being polite from the beginning, and telling him everything he needed to know about her vulnerability
@@BarryTiredyes please dont share information, rather say my boyfriend is out taking a walk or have some kind of protection with you, I hope she has something just in case since living everywhere
@@BarryTiredshe’s human and we don’t all react perfectly in these scary situations. Plus, this would’ve been an important lesson which she will have learnt a lot from.
Word she needs to report this man to police…….
And this is what opportunists and creepy perverts count on. Us trying to keep the peace and be polite because we feel rude and like we may be doing our subtle "I'm not interested please go away vibes" and they know it. Change how you respond and go to 100 from 0 don't go to 10 or 50 and think it should be enough. I lived abroad by myself in Italy and was approached followed and assaulted in milan until I changed my response. Mostly by Egyptian immigrants but some much older Italian men too.
That guy has serial killer vibes. He said he was checking to see if anyone needed water then said to be careful of a guy offering water. He was debating whether or not to make you his next victim. You can see it in his face and demeanor
Yes he wanted her to feel fear and dread. My guess is he either #1 needed a backup in case police got involved on camera to show that there was a discussion of some other man so it definitely couldn’t be him. Or #2 wanted her to feel fear and dread when he mentioned both him and the “other man” were offering water so she would connect the dots that it’s him, put away her camera and start packing up, because he didn’t want to be on film, and while she putting away her camera he would have a chance to grab her. I’m sure he was thinking about the camera and wondering whether or not it’s a “live feed” or connected to fb live or Snapchat or something. Scary 😢
@user-ky9uf7tw6b I thought the same thing. He didn't know if it was live reason he didn't act. You can definitely tell he had very bad intentions. I bet he came back right after that and was very upset that she had gone. Whatever soul came a long after she left he probably made sure they wouldn't leave
Yep ....serial killer stare....and stroked the steering wheel while dead silent😬👀 very scary vibes
He wanted her to go "to the other side" so he can't be seen
As an ex policeman I can tell you you handled this exceptionally well. There was no one up on the mountain. He was creating a story to cover for himself. I cannot stress enough you dodged a bullet. His utterly bizzarre silence and staring was enough. Learn from this Alyssa. And thank God your sharing this to help others
I'm not trying to argue, just curious. What makes you think so? I mean to me he looked just like a lonely guy, maybe looking for conversation, maybe for romance.
@@---Vi--- It's a fair point and it's something I did consider. His approach was all wrong for the circumstances.....lone young girl, very isolated and desolate area....basic common sense and knowledge of this era of heightened sensitivity towards violent crime especially toward women should have dictated his approach. The only sane response would have been to say something like " Hi, everything ok ? We live on that farm over there , if you need help with anything just holla . Enjoy your day " And promptly leave . That approach is helpful and respectful of boundaries. If the man in the video was indeed lonely and in need of someone to chat to then he chose the wrong person in the wrong place. There may have been mental health issues too !
@@patrickmaguire1407she didn’t do exceptionally well at all, exceptionally well would have been her hightailing it out of there as fast as she could after the first time he stopped by. She was lucky, next time, she may not be if she repeats what she did in this video.
@@Opune623 she kept cool 😎 level headed 😎 and didn't get him riled up. As I said, she did exceptionally well 😉
He could have been a lonely guy, but the staring stroking his steering wheel body language and bs other guy story gave him away. He's going to have to work on his Ted Bundy skills a little better, he might as well wore a shirt saying, "rapist here". Just like a tiger you don't want to trigger a prey response. Don't run stand your ground act calm. The only reason he didn't attack was she didn't act like prey and he thought maybe she was live streaming. He was looking at the camera which is probably why she's still alive. Bad guys are not afraid of cops let alone a tough female with a gun. I just watched a vid where a crazy guy attacked 2 men camping and the sane guys had guns. Noone is safe any where.
Girl if something like this happens again please don’t stay to fold your laundry. Leave right away!! He already knew you were there alone in an isolated location and the things he said about the shower and offering people water were red flags. Stay safe!
THANK YOU!
Exactly!!!!!!
I was thinking the same! If that guy was prepared to act on whatever psycho impulse that he had, a recording would not help if he found it and your life would've been in jeopardy. 😣
My thoughts exactly. Minutes, even seconds, can make all the difference, and I know this from personal experience. Bad things happen in the blink of an eye. When he came back that second time he was clearly trying to get her to step away from her van, so he had a plan at that point.
Thought the same. Reminded me if the scary movie when the characters decide to go back a pack instead of just leaving, things are replaceable, you are not. Be safe 🌺
As an older guy, I can say being friendly is one thing, that guy was sending out weird vibes. Some advice to anyone, never let a stranger offer you something to drink, it's a good way to get roofied.
To be fair he did say a “Hose” not a bottle or glass. But i agree 1000%. But def seemed like a creeper.
Oh yeah he definitely has an agenda, your`re spot on with the vibes sir.
Yeah, red flags there.
It’s also a good way to get someone close to them to club them over the head and throw them in their vehicle, handcuff them, SA them, etc. No one can ever tell me any different, that man had planned on committing a crime on that woman and I would suspect she isn’t the first woman he’s done this to. He was very at ease with what he was doing and how he spoke to see he does this frequently but isn’t so brazen yet that he comes in and totally takes over the situation. He will be at some point though. I’d print out his picture of him in that quad and give it to police there and tell them about your interactions so they are made aware should there be crimes in that area. You aren’t wasting police time or being paranoid. They need to have this type of info and appreciate when they get it, even if it can’t help them in that very moment, it eventually will. It’ll help other victims of his too.
I bet reports have been made on him already, but no one was able to get such a crystal clear image of him. Most don’t have their camera running or will grab it as they hear that man approach because we are always worried about being polite and not angering men who are creepy af and up to no good.
I've been Van living for over 20 years in Australia. If anything ever seems at all dodgy, don't hesitate throw your stuff in and move .even if it's just bad vibes ,
Girl you never tell them your personal situation. No one needs to know your alone living out of a van! That is dangerous! Please be safe and always go with your gut. I’m glad you was filming
"Yep, my husband is having a nap." My cousin and his wife will be back in 5, they went for steaks".... Make up a good lie. :/
Yeah.. I watched the update and I know she’s carrying but if there were two men you just never know. I’m glad she’s safe but I don’t know why she told them the truth.. it almost felt like when he said “come out and look at this white truck that’s watching you” that he was to grab her. I got a really uneasy feeling from watching this. It made me sick to my stomach.
This. People do NOT need to know about your lifestyle-especially creepy desert people.
I Was Going to Come Say This
*you're 🙄
He was the person he was claiming to be protecting you from. Sets himself as the hero, saving you.
Exactly!!!
He tried to pull a Riley Gaul on her.
exactly
@@joyce9523 no clue why you tagged me here.
Stay safe ❤😊
Huge safety note: as soon as you felt uncomfortable, when he first approached, you should have left. Please follow your instincts and leave the next time you feel like something isn't right. Do not fold laundry, sit to record a chat or engage in a conversation with strangers that you feel uneasy around. If you hear muffled voices, again, please stop whatever you're doing and make your safety a priority. Also, don't let strange men know you're completely alone. Perhaps, even say someone is en route to join you. Having his face on camera won't be very useful if he has your camera. Please be safe!
@Max Larson ..you didn't pay attention to this short video. I'm a native born Texican also. Why should a girl stay and have to ef around w ignorant ppl. I forget which but I saw video by 2 X-Special forces men now. Funny they disagree w you. Leave and leave quick before an encounter was their advice. Not for women, but men also. Period, any ignorant encounter. She has nothing to prove to anyone. Just to take care of herself. As someone who loves to camp, and did 3 wildernesses in 3 states...what is odd about enjoying nature and being fine doing it by yourself at times??
@Max Larson what the hell does equality have to do with knowing your own physical strength against a man who is obviously physically stronger than you? Are you anti feminists so dense you cant connect the dots because you're so clouded by your sexism?
@Max Larson bro I thought men were equal. Why not throw a 300lbs 6'7" boxer in the ring against a 150lbs 5'5" man? Equality brahH
@Carnita Jackson well said.
@Max Larson do you know this guy?
Girl that camera probably saved your life. He was worried about the camera being connected to live stream or something.
Excellent comment.
All of his “concerns” were confessions. This is absolute predator behavior. When it was silent and he was staring, it was almost as if he was in his head trying to decide if he was going to assault you. This was creepy and scary as hell. I’m glad you’re ok.
He was definitely assessing the likelihood of her reactions to what he was wanting to do. He wanted her to get out of her van to go look at what was probably his vehicle and not some other person. Probably no wife or kids either. I'm sure it was her reserved, few words that helped alot instead of being friendly. God was with her.
That’s what I got! He literally looked like he was real life contemplating if he wanted to assault her! So fucking creepy
@@AWayfaringstranger180 he wanted her to get out where he could attack her. In the van she may be able to slam the door and make it away as soon as he goes to get off that atv. He was luring her. and he offered the other side the mountain bc he didn’t want her to leave bc they he couldn’t do what he wanted
YES ABSOLUTELY
IMO all solo female nomads should be armed. Pleased to know she is!!
As a retired correctional officer working 23 years in a prison, I can definitely tell you that he was sizing you up. I'm so thankful that you got out of there. Your instincts were right on. He was bad news. The first time coming around was creepy in itself. The second time, he was deciding if it was the right time to do something. Like you said, you're from Texas and raised around military family. I know you could have protected yourself. You chose to leave and that was the best action you could take. It's sad you can't even go out in the middle of nowhere and have some creep try something. When I travel in my RV, believe me that I'm armed to the max. You have to be in todays society. Sad.
Your comment is true, yet so very sad today. It’s stressful to be on guard 24hrs. Causes anxiety issues, I’m not that old but I remember fun times w/my family camping, vacationing anywhere w/out being harmed. Stay ready, so u don’t have to get ready 🔥🔫.
It’s just how it is. We’re females. Come on. Not safe, just how it is. How it’s been for a while, we’re not equal.
You're spot on he WAS sizing her up and baiting her. You could tell with intense stare after she said she would just leave instead of move to the other side of the mountain....he was thinking it's now or never. This video legit gave me chills.
@@Saturdays.Script You are so right, he gives me the chills every time I view the video. I am so thankful she got out of there.
We all think we can protect ourselves. Let’s be real. He’s a big guy and she is not that big. She wouldn’t have stood a chance. Hopefully she owns a g*n cuz that’s the only thing that could defend her from someone like this
Never tell a stranger anything about what you are doing and never tell anybody that you are by yourself
I agree with this comment. Alyssa, what you did is me. Trusting that what I said was no big deal but I'm not into lying yet I would definately tell him my man went for a walk and then skidaddle out of there. I don't think every human being is awful but girl this is 2023. And you a single woman traveling. No information is good information. Why is he asking about you, respectfully he should wait for you to offer the info or not ask at all. Be safe out there girl. Thank you for sharing! Get a dog!
Agree but apparently that doesn’t stop a potential predator. Noted my experience at a state park above but didn’t mention I was in the middle of setting up camp to look like multiple people were there. I set up 2 kid size chairs, 2 adult chairs and had kid toys in the vehicle window but still the guy stopped and kept asking questions including are you by yourself even though the extra items were there. Turned out he was a creeper entering the state park multiple times on an expired receipt.
You mean like she is doing on TH-cam? She tells strangers all the time that she’s a solo traveling female living alone in a van and where she’s at and where she’s going.
I remember reading on a different video by a solo woman she always puts a large pair of men's boots outside her van and two chairs.
True changing I like to we like
That long stare was him contemplating attacking you and I believe the only thing that stopped him was he realized he was being recorded.
As I see it, his first trip out was to size up the situation and see who you were. Then he left to create the voices you heard (talking to himself) so you'd be quick to believe there really was a white truck out there. Then he returned and told you the white truck was behind that tree so you'd have to come out of your van to see it. You didn't, so he stressed it being important for you to remember what the truck looked like, hoping you'd then come out. The idea was to draw you far enough away from your van for him to grab you without you having any chance to reach for your gun (or another weapon just inside your door), nor could you make it back inside your van to lock him out. These guys tend to follow their own "leave no trace" rules, to assure there can be no police report about it; which isn't difficult so far out in the wilderness. PLEASE make sure the cops in charge of that area have his picture from your video, exactly where you were, and all related information. You're in a position to save the lives of other girls.
I got all of that from it too! He leaves and comes back to tell on himself with some extra flare of truck details. 😳 He probably gave details of his actual daily driver. Wtf!!
Your 100% spot on, she’s so lucky she didn’t go look to see the truck, I guess because she’s been doing it for a while, anyone new could be gone in a flash
@eucVibes She’s nervous and trying to keep the situation deescalated. She left as soon as she felt it safe.
Give it a break.
@@EUCvibes I feel honored that she took the time to reply to me. I just wish she'd been able to say she's given the local authorities his picture and full information so they can stop this guy.
This comment makes the most sense. Didn't think about all of this until I read the breakdown.
Girl, I wouldn’t have even finished my laundry. The minute he left after the first time, I would’ve booked it. If you felt he was creepy the first time, you should’ve left as quickly as possible. Your safety is more important than the laundry.
I hope she learned something new from this experience of her life.
@@erenjaeger1738 yeah let’s hope so.
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Same I would have excelerated the f out of there the first time he came around.
Agree totally.Solo female in a desert and a creepy guy comes by.Get the F out ASAP.Screw the Laundry.
What freaked me out was his subtle attemp to lure you out of your van and close to him by trying to get you to look at that supposed truck.
I thought the same thing I thought don’t go over to where he is. He wanted you away from your van because he didn’t know what you had in the van if your instincts say beware then you need to listen to that. Glad you’re safe.
Yes!! Very very scary!
He was one smooth piece of work - I saw that too... He seemed awfully interested in getting her to move to a certain location...
Oh WOW!!!! I didn't even think of that but you're SO RIGHT!!! That guy is most likely a rapist and murderer!! He was CRAZY scary in every sense!!!!😬😬😬😳😳😳
Oh crap i forgot about that
I got a definite creep vibe from the guy, the way he was looking at you like you were dinner or something.
Glad you got out of there and glad you’re safe.
“It’s not that you can’t stay.” A good person would actually tell you to leave and get out of there. He was trying to lure you into a trap.
That was a dead giveaway!!
I agree .
Wanna bet that if she was dumb enough to take him up on his offer, the so-called wife and kids would mysteriously not be around.
The dude looks 65 - 70.
So.... What kids does he have at home ?
Probably None .
This really does need to be reported
If local LE looks into it... They can verify if he truly lives alone.
They can Veiw this film, and see and hear what he said.
He will lie his way out of anything... But at least he will be on their radar.
I think he was trying to set her up
Yea, he wanted her to be comfortable with him!
He would never have had that length of time talking to me. Creepy!! I hope she moves!
The first time he pulled up he said he drives around there to check on ppl to see if they need any water and then the second time he said there’s a man in the mountain stalking you he said he gives ppl water 😨 he wasn’t well at all he literally told on himself. How unhinged.
Yeah. Low social skills person. He was processing things at a very basic uneducated level. His thought process, though probably much more rudimentary than this, was something like "What might someone do to lure a person? I was going to lure her with water, so I'll say this guy was going to lure her with water." But, he evidently couldn't even process that that might make him seem sinister. I sincerely don't know how he gets through each day with such a mush brain, or how he hasn't been caught for being creepy by now.
i think he judged her initial reaction and then wanted to reappear as the hero who is protecting her from a creep who would be doing something he worked out she pbviously found creepy@@TamaraKane
exactly...NO water with him!!
exactly!! So creepy I would have left after he came the first time yikes
Thought I lost connection when that man was staring at you. He stared wayyy too long. Very creepy.
I live in my car so little different and can't tell you how many men have approached my car. Getting pretty good at shooing them away. Realized being nice doesn't help at all. The quicker you can be rude and just get them out of there the better.
After all they are being rude when you are in a vulnerable state. If they are attracted to you then they should wait until you're in a public establishment to say hey. Just like you wouldn't walk up to someone's home to hit on them. Take care..stay safe. Safety first. Have fun!
Major red flag when he wanted you to step out of the van to "see the truck behind the tree". Very good job listening to your instincts and staying in your van.
agree! When he said that I was like DONT YOU DARE GET OUT OF YOUR VAN
He was luring you so he could nab you at that moment. The time he was staring at you, near the end, he was reevaluating his next opportunity. Thank God you followed your instincts. Stay safe out there.
@@cherylo3383 Yep, that's exactly what I think, too!!
He shifts for a moment as if he is thinking of grabbing his weapon to use on her and then decides to back out.
He was totally trying to lure her out of her van to "look" so he could grab her.
If he wanted to get her he would have... tf lol
When he tried to coax you out of the van, I freaked out.😮
Also, I think this really needs to be reported to the authorities. He was trying to get you away from your van any way he could. First with the shower at his house invitation, then wanting you to get out of your van and look at whatever in the distance. And telling you to move to the other side of the mountain was probably a trap. He told you to go get a good look at the other guy's truck because the other guy is probably his partner in crime waiting to grab you. (If he exists at all...) Whatever awaited you on the other side was definitely nothing good. Seriously, this guy was trying to set you up one way or another. Who knows how many other women he's done this to or will do this to. Please show this video to the local authorities. You could potentially save lives
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I agree.
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The authorities, what a joke .. Unless an actual crimes been committed 99.9% of the time they could care less. Unless there is an actual serial killer investigation in that area cops dont really care. She was just over-reacting to a nice elderly man offering help is what they'd say. And I seriously doubt they bother to watch the video. At least this has been my experience with cops . Fyi I been robbed at gun-point twice, stabbed once , robbed n beaten and my gf raped never a single arrest , all that Tv , law an Order , B.s. is just that...A false feeling of protection hence the reason these creepy old buzzards exist at all to begin with, for all we know he's a retired police captian or sergeant fro somewhere back east .Thats my cynical assesment based on hard experience.
This video needs to be shared on every platform that involves #VANLIFE #RVTRAVELS #EVERYTHINGTTRAVEL so people can be aware of this man's face!! Does anyone know where this was??
HOLY SHIT! The dead silence when he just sat there staring at you and rubbing his thumb on the steering wheel. That's the kind of behaviour of a killer before they attack. You are damn lucky.
Ok sherlock , bet you can just look at people and tell if they r killers or not
@@n0n4m3zz nah, he had nefarious intentions. He was sizing her up and wanted her to move to the other side of the mountain. Which, I can assume is more secluded and he could get away with what he wanted to do. She was in danger and she knew it. Not saying he’s a killer, but he was up to something.
@@n0n4m3zz When a stranger out in the middle of nowhere stares at you like that you bet your ass they're most likely a predator and better get tf out of dodge!
@@n0n4m3zzhe was a creep
@@n0n4m3zz Maybe not, but I know when to spot someone who doesn't know how to string a sentence together with correct spelling, while trying to be a smartarse.
You should submit this footage to the police too, he seems like he’s done this before and it might help them even solve some unsolved cases…
AGREED!! He will do this again at some point and maybe next time follow through with action. He should be on the police’s radar.
@@haleynicole7333Why do you think he was asking her to move to other side of the mountain, that was step 2 of the plan….
@@johnnylego807 that’s exactly right. He was trying to move her to where he would carry out whatever plan he had for her
@@haleynicole7333 Yup, scary stuff, this is why i do think women should train very well and carry some kind of concealed weapon. Scary times for men and women. and he may have done this before or even a few times, i wonder the missing people around that area.
@@johnnylego807 there’s another video someone made that lives in the area that this happened in and he said two girls have gone missing nearby, one who was found dead. Truly terrifying stuff
Always trust your gut. I could feel the tension through my phone, I couldn't imagine what you were feeling. I'm glad you got out of that situation. Stay safe
Me too.😮
When a man says he’s not being creepy without anyone questioning him, then they’re probably being creepy
That was such a huge big red flag to me
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He didn't seem to creepy tho.
@@wingedhussar1453he was prolonging the encounter for no real reason which is odd
@@emmaledlin3436 he wanted her to talk to him. He probably though she was easy and wpuld become friends maybe bang later
@@wingedhussar1453….and how is that not creepy to you?? do you frequently go around looking for women you think to be easy targets and befriend them solely on the basis that you might bang later..? because that’s VERY MUCH creep behavior. don’t be a weirdo, get out of here
That stare was him either talking himself into or out of something very, very bad. Glad you're safe.
I think he saw the camera and was debating. Either way this man may be guilty of other crimes, should be checked out.
Yes I agree !!!
I think he was trying to get his courage up.
I thought the same. So gross. Smart to leave asap. I always think saying you are livestreaming could help in these situations, but I don’t know.
I am sure impure Thoughts were on his decrepit mind
Dang, even his initial question of if she does this for a living - living in a van - can already be read as a “would someone notice you’re missing” kind of inquiry. It’s so scary.
“Nothing spooky” and “the people he trusts get to shower” - offers it immediately. The way he spoke was super sus
I thought the same thing. Fishing foe info and not in the friendly way
I pissed myself and started shaking when I heard that.
@@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717 LMAO
You should of gone the first time without him getting the chance to come back…he could of came back and done something stupid
If I heard that ATV coming the first time, I would have locked myself in the van and peeled out of there. Equipment can be replaced, you can't!
Then why the heck would you even be doing van life lol? Other people exist and living in a van is going to make you meet them all
I couldn’t help but feel the reason he was saying “it’s safer on the other side of the mountain” was to lure you into a more unsafe situation/further away from people if he was to attack you, and you needed help. Very scary, and glad you’re okay!
Also how coincidental that the same day she's there is the first day he's ever seen this other random man who is also out there "checking if people need water." Gtfoh-- thank goodness he's an awful liar and the inconsistencies in his words triggered her gut instinct to flee the area.
@@harashe1000 yes! 100%
“someone’s out there watching you with binoculars…” uhhh, yeah that was probably you, my dude. 🙄🙄
Omg so glad you didn’t go on the other side
He describing himself Essentially...the Safer place is where I
He is presumably...
Yeah if it's more open he could run her down with that mule he is driving. There's no scrub brush to hide behind and it would be easier to drive that mule with no trees or scrub brush.
The way he said my wife.. and kids he was definitely trying to give you a false sense of security to come over willingly. And him talking about a “man on the mountain” it sounded like he was just describing himself with that same water comment and everything. So glad you’re safe. That was terrifying.
If he was a good man with good intentions and offered to let you shower - but has wife and kids- a good man would not let a stranger into their home to shower. Creepy creepy creepy
He lied up and down. No water, no hose, no wife, no kids, no older make Dodge truck, no guy on the mountain watching you. He tried over and over to get you to leave your van so he could abduct you. Forget the laundry. Get outta there.
Get an open carry 😁
@@keepmeaccontabletam1136 exactly
He’s got no kids or wife, so glad she never went near him to look at the so called truck 100% weirdo
I would not have finished my laundry. As soon as he came the first time I would have thrown all my stuff in the van and left. That is the creepiest thing I’ve ever seen and I would actually bring this footage to the police. Maybe they can go see where he lives… maybe find someone that he did something to… I’m glad you are safe. I def had shivers watching this
Me too!!!!
Yup he could have done something the second time
Providing the footage to law enforcement really does sound like a good idea...
@@cmcbirne I mean he’s so creepy maybe he has ppl locked up or something. It’s worth a welfare check
Exactlyyyy I was like fuck the laundry 😳.! I’m leaving noooooowww. This was sooo creepy
This made me so uncomfortable and scared for you. I’m glad you got out of this situation safely!
I think he made that story up about someone watching you to gain your trust, so you would feel safer with him. Huge red flags, so creepy. Glad you're safe
Agree!!!
I think he said it because it was a projection of what he had been doing. Very sick and creepy!
Yeah, and he was also drunk. You could tell from his speech patterns. When he was sitting there it was obvious, he was trying to decide what he should say or do to try to convince her to come back to his house. He didn't have the water with him and then he offers you can come to my home and get water from my hose was a big red flag to me. He was definitely trying to lure her there. I seriously doubt he has a wife and kids living with him.
@@TheLiana1102 definitely, I think he was pushing to see how far he could go. Making up the wife and kids creates a false sense of security. Such a freak.
Also trying to get her to come over to see the white and red van he was talking about. I'm so glad she didn't move an inch then 😮
He was literally playing mind games with her! “There’s a guy watching you, he told me he goes around & offers water” literally the very thing he just told her! I was so confused at first I thought the two of them were working together until she explained it was the same guy!!! HE WASNT LYING! He was actually watching her with binoculars and that’s how he was able to spot her!!
I actually assumed it was another man, who was freaked out by the guy and came to warn her after seeing him watching her. When I realized it was the same guy…I was so confused. His red flags were just..scary.
I just found out a woman named Lizette Martinez went missing from this same area shes in around the same time of the incident filmed here.. Lizette still hasnt been found, so I hope this girl shows her video to police
He definitely was .
What a Creepy C Sucker
@@MollyMcBooter wow good find. This guys definitely a fucking creep
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Alyssa you really should report this incident to the authorities so they know what’s going on in their area. Stay safe.
THIS! SO MUCH THIS! Both of his visits were weird as hell, but that 2nd one where he did practically nothing but stare was unsettling.
Report what? Speaking to someone is not a crime. Although he did come off creepy
Although creepy he didnt do anything illegal. By law he has every right to be there on public land. The cops would inform her how unsafe her lifestyle can be and tell her to move on and try and be safe.
@@jacal420 there is no crime in talking to someone and looking creepy but it's always worth reporting ut because later down the line if someone goes missing and that was their last known area then at least there has been reports of a man in that area that has made others feeling scared or threatened previously then those old reports will suddenly become crucial. X
@@haley3787 I think they’re saying the police won’t make a report on someone being weird. Imagine how many people would have those kinds of reports.
The fear in my chest that I just felt watchin this video. I am so glad you are safe.
He real life sat there and stared like he was debating his options.....this whole encounter was unsettling to say the least.
He was prob wondering if you were armed. Debating if he wanted to take a chance
@@oeff7744 Yup
Traveling by yourself or living by yourself in a van is scary. I don’t know how these ladies do it solo. It’s not safe at all especially nowadays because there are lots of people who don’t have jobs.
@@felycacal3882 You stay strapped up . That’s how anyone does it
If they want to be safe .
Yea I was so uncomfortable how we just stared in silence so creepy
Dude this pretty much confirms my theory that almost always, a person with bad intentions will TELL YOU straight to your face their exact intentions in the form of a story. I have witnessed this first hand several times and it blows my mind and obvious it is now that I recognize the pattern.
1000% I have experienced this
Definitely 💯
Yup, they get off on seeing your fear as they tell u an elaborate story of some one else, but its really what they desire to do! There's a great comment above from a guy who works with sex offenders and explains it much better than me, apparently it's a thing... Very creepy, at least you have good awareness about such things, alot of girls need to know these kind of signs
Stevie Wonder could see what this man was up to, in a matter of seconds.
@@jgyrwa- Well, none of us saw him on the first round, so we were all blind to his face and just by listening, we could tell what he could've been up to. I thought she was going to leave immediately. My heart was pounding after he came back and she was still folding her clothes. I was imagining myself there and telling the guy that I was live streaming on youtube with thousands of viewers so he'd know that the world was watching.
That long, quiet, fixed stare he gave her was SO deeply unsettling, disturbing and creepy. The hairs on my arm stood up. That is not normal friendly behaviour. That looks like a predatory stare. I’m so happy you stayed safe.
Yeah, it was an agonizing wait for him to say something. She clearly said made a conversation ending statement. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt as just a friendly local guy until that long strange lapse.
Same 😳I got the immediate chills and felt so unsettled I could barely watch.
Yes, that guy was up to no good and bis beaviour gave me the vibe he was looking for that
I skipped through the video and I literally thought My phone was Frozen in that part but he was just sitting still 😳😨
The fact that it took you overnight to figure out he was creepy is scary.
He didn’t expect you to actually leave. Whew! This gave me chills.
He was waiting for her to take her camera way bc he wasn’t sure if it was connected to a live feed.
He did a lot of creepy things but what got me the most was him trying to get you to come closer to look at the truck that was suspicious to me so glad you're safe thanks for posting
I agree. And he was lying about the truck. The only person watching and offering water was creepy guy on the atv. He was super sketchy.
Yep. He tried to get her to come to his house for water, come to his house for a shower (but he needed to be home) when she didn't take him up on those offers he hatched a new plan. He totally wanted her to seek him for safety, then he tries to get her to come close to him like you mentioned. This guy had bad intentions all the way. I truly believe he knew she could out run him with ease and that is the only reason he didn't hop off the atv and go for her. He needed to make sure if he went for her he actually got her because he knew he'd be turned in if she got away.
Yep! He really wanted her out of her vehicle and to come near him with her attention diverted. This creep needs to be reported to local police or the county sheriff. She got a clear shot of his face. Git r done!
Yes he was trying to get her out away from her van Right decision to leave
He was projecting hardcore...and the way he was stroking that steering wheel as he stared at her...super creepy...self soothing as whatever creepy thoughts he had were dancing through his head. You played that cool as a cucumber.
OMG. Him staring at you was so so so so scary! He was clearly fuming mad that you were leaving and he thought you would just ‘trust’ him and go to a different place where you would be more vulnerable. This is worse than a horror movie to watch because this, to me, is evidence that those people are probably serial killers.
What's crazy is how fast he pulled up. Just laying in wait for a victim. Makes you sad you can't even enjoy nature without some people wanting to kill you.
Yes you could see his body language start to expose his intentions when his stupid crafted story didn’t work, thank God he was dumb enough to not be able to think on his feet.
Or he could just be an awkward man. Jeez you're all jumping to conclusions here. Maybe he was waiting for you to say thanks for warning me about the man watching with binoculars.
@@bushpig6837 nope. we're not gonna do this.
@@auraofnorah Do what? This is like the women videoing men in the gym and then shaming them online for glancing their way. One day you might really be in danger and need help but please don't be surprised if no men are willing to risk getting involved for fear of reprisals. It must be awful to live your life in fear like that, thinking the worst of people by default.
Yo, he was def sizing you up and considering. When you told him you were "just gonna leave" a chill ran down my spine. My ma always told me: " don’t tell a man what you’re gonna do or he’ll make sure you can’t do it"… I think he might’ve seen your cam and decided against it. I’m glad you’re safe ❤
Exactly and it’s weird how when she said she was. Going to leave he all the sudden was like “it’s not that you have to leave” like trying to keep her to stay ? After he just told her someone’s watching her lol
Same. Momma told me same.
@@adorehazel2757right! Don't leave, just move to the other side of the mountain where it's "safer"...okay sure smh glad she didn't get out of her van and that she got the hell outta there safely. Super lucky that guy left again, because being where she was and alone he definitely could have pulled some shit then...but maybe the other side of the mountain would've been easier for him, maybe further from a highway or roads? Maybe waiting to get her at night? The entire thing was super creepy from 1st encounter and something we can all learn from...though of course never know how you'll actually respond in a similar situation but having more awareness of this stuff is good.
My exact thought!
Yes exactly when come to a man he will try to stop you 💯
I am watching this a year after you posted it. So, I am still going to comment-you trusted your instincts and got out of there, which was so very good to do! I am old enough to be your mama and am so proud of you and how you handled yourself. Great job!!!!!
Gurl, he was going through scenarios in his mind. Thinking about how close other people were and if they could hear you if you screamed. He was assessing the situation. Glad your safe.
He wanted her to move to a more isolated camp.
@@DontStepInTheGrease that's what I was wondering , then he might suggest where
@@doneown503 I think he did suggest she go closer to base of mt/hills.
Totally agree, he was weighing things out in his "mind" His words were also very slurred.
Steady on, ms wolf. Sure, it was dodgy looking, but ya ca'nt surmise scenarios ( although we all have) and put them down on here, as if it was an inevitability ! The lass did the right thing and moved on. I would have, too.
I got so much anxiety watching this. I really feel like you dodged something very serious. That man was working up the nerve to attack you. So glad you got out of there.
@@em7937 We all just never know how we will react in these situations. It sounds corny but the absolute best thing to do is practice imo. Maybe this video will save lives 🤍
I hope you are armed. Remember, you don't have to be nice to anyone or entertain their chit chat. Your first instinct was this guy is a creep, you can see it on your face in the video. Never ignore that, and never feel the need to be polite. Don't let anyone that close to you. No. It isn't you being paranoid, that's your survival instinct trying to keep you alive. Listen to it always.
I agree but I think she handled it the best she could in the moment - had she been abrupt or challenging - it may have just provoked him to attack her immediately....you just never know.......and that is the creepiest part of this.
@@cherylleigh36 this is true, sometimes playing it cool helps to keep a situation from escalating.
@@batacumba On the other hand, playing it “cool” can make a delusional predator assume you’re more “willing”, meek, submissive or easy prey. You don’t have to be aggressive, but it’s important to stand firm and use your critical thinking skills during these situations. Always be alert! I think I read somewhere that traffickers typically avoid loud children or assertive women. They often take advantage of the ones who entertain their bs.
@@Felicite-Etoile I think she actually did a decent job at this, notice when she caught him staring she said ‘do you need something?’ Which I thought was a polite but pretty clear way of saying ‘I see you, homie, move along now’. And she was easygoing and friendly enough but kept her answers fairly short. I definitely would have hightailed it out of there after the first encounter but I think the second time around after sizing her up further he noticed she was too relaxed being a woman out there alone and probably figured she was armed and not worth messing with.
she is. she said arizona is a stand your ground state so we know what that means
Thanks!
The shower story was the biggest thing to stick out for me. He said, once he trusts someone, he'll allow them to shower. Then he moved directly to offering his shower to her.
Right!? Then saying “I think it would work better if you would come to my house when I was there A COUPLE OF TIMES since you are “female” so my “wife” can get to know you”. So she doesn’t think something stupid is going on.
What a freaking creep-oh!
Right, and insisting of coming over, and specially come when am in so my wife cant think weird shit 😮😮😮. Is already weird 🤢🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️.....
Ohh fuck the 1minute staring... I'm mad 😡😡😡 am a people person but you vented to much to him ...
@@rativiper I 100% doubt he has a wife. I saw this other clip where an awful man told a mom "oh my wife will meet us in the next store," which gained the mom's trust. Turns out he had never had a wife (just said it to make himself seem more trustworthy) and he ended up kidnapping and harming/killing the mom's daughter :(
@@harashe1000When I zoomed in it didn't look like he was wearing a wedding band
How scary
It is so amazing she caught him on camera. Everyone wants to criticize women when this happens because they want to believe this is avoidable, but she really did good.
No she didn’t. You women sending the wrong message to young girls watching this. This was a prime example of what not to do. Feminist got y’all out here on some, equal to a man bs. She should she packed up immediately after the first encounter, no excuses. Folding clothes could have costs her life.
@@jgyrwa And let me guess, your a man? What would you know about this kind of stuff? Its not sending "the wrong message" bc its helping everyone to be aware that this kind of stuff can happen. I know it sucks but it can. 🙁
@@jgyrwaI think that, yes, she made some mistakes which she likely learned from especially after sleeping and analyzing the situation. The way I see it, the 1st encounter set off her intuition which made her feel a bit uneasy...however a lot of women try to "relax" and not "jump to conclusions" about something that actually could have been innocent (as women are literally told this shit all the time...stay safe but don't be paranoid! Definitely an oxymoron). Therefore she put it to the back of her mind and went on with her day and finish what she was doing before moving on. However, a big mistake was giving him all the info he asked for to know her vulnerable situation, and a huge red flag the 1st encounter was also when he told her "well if you do end up staying I'll see you again." Yeah she should've left right then to not give him another chance. But hey if she had done that, then the men here would definitely be saying oh he was just making small talk and being nice "seeing if anyone out here needs water or anything" YET she was the only one out there! Had she left the 1st time, though yes she put herself at higher risk, it wouldn't have had the same teachability that the 2nd encounter had... We as a group are analyzing more and see that yeah an encounter like the 1st should always be an indicator to get the hell out and always listen to your gut feeling no matter what. Women are always taught not to be rude or be polite or whatever smh though in her case I believe being polite did help not escalate anything because with his body language he sure looked agitated
I feel like she did not show any fear at all and that's what made him reconsider...he was really contemplating...
@@eliserenée6248 for sure confidence says a lot, kinda like when approached by a wild animal lol don't turn your back or run
When he came back he was so wasted he forgot his first story. Police need to investigate this man. He’s probably got bodies out there.
So glad you captured this and you are safe!
Right?! That was my thought, maybe not bodies (or maybe so 😬) but a strong chance of voyeurism or other sex crimes. Guaranteed he would have set up a hidden camera in his bathroom, or just entered to assault her.
@@a.walters123 immediately wondered about a camera or peep hole when he said he wanted her to come shower while he was there.
Right?! Dude went home to get some liquid courage and came back and forgot he was the one who is supposed to “be checking if people need water”. That long pause at the end was him contemplating on making a move or not.
It's like he needed to.make himself do what he was wanting to do with a Lil push
@@fernandotorres8558exactly. He was sitting there going through pros and cons in his head. How disturbing is that. And she got it on camera!!
loved the talk about lifestyles and risk and each person assessing their own life- good on ya'
Girl. The fact that you stayed after the first interaction is scary. Any solo female watching this PLEASE do not stick around and try to be brave. Get the hell outta there as soon as you get that gut feeling. This could’ve ended so much worse. We all know what this guy was up to.
Yeah. Best to stay in a populated areas, like a hotel parking lot. He was watching her, he was talking about himself. Too dangerous to be alone in isolated areas being a female, it’s just fact. Must be armed up. This is a crazy world we live in.
Oh yeah. I would’ve been gone as soon as he left.
Just leave.
Same I would have been like hell nah I’m leaving after the 1st encounter and that should be the last before anything bad happens.
He could've returned with a second creep because you heard men's voice before he returned.
Very proud of you for saying “did you need something” instead of just filling the silence w more small talk etc.
That one question showed confidence, it might have saved her life
Yes. It was assertive.
The second she said she was leaving you can tell that his demeanor changed. Weirdo probably had a whole plan in his head and when she said she's leaving he was furious. Scary cause during the long pause, he's probably realizing his original plan has failed...so he's trying to decide if he should attack her right now or not.
@@turnwaiter what do you think his plan was?
@@nofurtherwest3474 Hate to say it but he was probably going to lure her to his house or attack her. Who knows what these freaks are capable of though. I've heard of people carrying syringes so they can inject you with something and you pass out. Scary stuff.
He also tried to lure you out of your van. It was scary to see a person contemplating possibly harming someone. Thank God you are safe.
You're acting like couldn't just go over there and grab her. The old perv just wanted her to stand so he could check her body out..
I agree! He wanted to lure out of the van by telling her she should get a good look at the white and burgundy truck. He was definitely trying to size her up. Satan will always send his demons but God ALWAYS WINS in the end!
I noticed that too. He was thinking really hard at the end there. Almost as if he were running thru scenarios in his mind. Creepy.
@@nanewtofthenorth He was contemplating about making fast swift move to attack her then & there but then for whatever reason he decided against it. Thank God he did & she high tailed it out of there. God had his hand of protection on her that day for sure!
Yeah but if you go back & look at the part where he says "come right here & you can see it" she edited that part out & when it went to the next frame 10:12 You could see her lanyard/keys like she did move or get out to see! My thing is he was talking about a guy that was far away up on a mountain yet pointed to "a truck" that was within her view & she had already said there was no one around/out there. Surely if that truck was there she would've already noticed it.
Like dude your so nice. I understand not triggering anyone to act out in a bad way however if a person comes to you offers you help, water, shower at theres ect you lock your doors you leave. Pls just be safe i think its better for you to go rest at an actual rest stop from now on! Be safe girl! Im sorry you went through that.
Working with inmates that are sex offenders. He absolutely gave off the predator vibes. He’s gamey, trying to invoke fear, invade your privacy multiple times. He’s speaking of his self in third person. Separates his violent personality from his mild personality. He wanted to smell her as well. He was disassociating himself. The other side of the mountain was a set up too. That wasn’t his first time.
"that wasnt his first time" theres no way you think from this HIGHLY emotionally manipulative video , that you have certainty he was going to hurt her and has in the past thats a crazy statement to make off of one scared teens reaction lol
@@kiIIcams What teen? In the video she was 26 she is now 27 years old! 🤣🤣🤣
@@kiIIcams lol, only a man could say this with such confidence
@@kiIIcamsI absolutely agree with you. She even said she heard muffled male voices in the distance but everyone is overlooking that and saying he made up this mysterious man. People are saying for an albi? If he attack her she will know it was him if she was even able to talk after. And we don't know if he was staring at her the whole time, he had ion sun glasses and could have been looking past her. I of course don't know his (or her) intentions but people are really running with one theory. These will be the same people that will shame her for assuming every man is a predator. I know a lot of older people that are just not in a hurry. Either way, I liked your comment.
No man in their right mind whatever come out and do that to a young woman without looking very very shady. his returning his making comments somebody's watching her and just staring at her was the eeriest thing I ever witnessed. I'm not sure why she didn't leavr 7:41 after the first time he came to her Van? Some of the young women that are doing is bad life, in my opinion, take far too many risk and that's all there is to it. I'm surprised we don't hear More things have happened
The way he stared for so long in silence rubbing his thumb on the steering wheel like he was fantasizing something real creepy. Im so glad you made it out of there without him attacking you. It really looked like he was gonna do something.
I thought she did great. But should've left after the first encounter. Also maybe not saud that comment about housekeeping. He mightve been trying to figure out what that meant. " better than doing it in a crowded city " or whatever that sentence was.
Hope this was shared w pd
100 % agree with your thoughts. He was sizing her, his body language shows his elbow pointing out straight to her direction leg wide opened ready to step out of , for no good that guy is a creep, sure he was up to no good. I’m glad she is safe😮
And he tried to get her to come closer to see the white truck. He gave me sick vibes!
I feel like the guy telling the girl to step outside to get a better look was his way of making her more vulnerable and easier to snatch. I know she’s alone there regardless but who knows with that creep. Just my two cents
@@rayrenz3599
that's a grown woman, not a "girl" 🙄
You have to immediately tidy up whatever it is when the first person comes and leave it
May all your journeys go smoothly and don't relax when a stranger comes
You weren't paranoid! He was creepy! I got chills when he was staring at you! He was up to no good! Smart of you to trust your instincts!
Right ? There's a difference between paranoid & being cautious. You were not wrong. Creepy af Learn how to use your elbow to their nose bone.
Yep. And he ‘snapped’ out of it when she asked him if he needed something else
@@ctt7971yes and I study body language and the way he was moving his hand and fingers on the wheel he was thinking or contemplating something. I would think it’s what he may or should do and I’m sure Before she made him snap out of it he was living out what he would do in his mind.
@@jessecumbee6156I was observing that as well absolutely chilling
Yep. He was fantasizing and trying to show "romantic" interest. Some men think all nomadic women might be segg workers and have a price.
The fact that he applied HIS initial storyline to that of someone you should fear tells you EVERYTHING. Jeeeeeeez
No because that was the scariest thing I’ve ever heard. Genuinely wish this was a skit.
I’m safe at home watching this from my couch and my anxiety is through the roof. That was so disturbing.
Me too! When he asked her to go over to him so he can point out the van, my spine got a little numb😅 the way he was staring at her afterwards gave me palpitations... I am so glad she is safe. What a nightmare situation that could have been
Right, like I’m scanning the room😅
Creepy
What's distributing to me is when he first turned up, he sounded so convincing.
Up to the point where he started talking about showers.. then it wasn't so convincing.
Her intuition was peaking for sure
Wow, brand new to your channel. That incident was very scary. But I love that you were able to film the encounter - very smart of you!! Stay safe out there!
at 11:23 during his long stare, he then moves his arm, opening up, getting one step closer to go do what he was thinking about doing, but YOU were so incredible!!! You bravely and directly straight to him asked "do you need anything?" That remark totally snapped him out of his fantasies!!! GREAT JOB asking so straightforward!!
Yes! I was about to comment this. I also noticed his hand was moving closer to whatever he had in his left pocket... she literally stopped him just in time and I’m so grateful.
His other hand rubbing the steering wheel tells me that he's getting off on looking at her...
Did everyone see the eyebrow sexual advance at 11:12-11:15??? WTF! 😳😬😱🤨
“Come out here and I’ll show you.” chills down my spine. So so happy you’re okay ❤
Yep, this was the comment that jumped out at me the most. ***shudder***
@@fweedomfighter6285 I was coming here to comment about that comment as well! He was being bold with that lure!! OMG.
Can you timestamp when he said that? I missed it.
@cara4173 10:10
Absolutely terrifying. Worth getting him checked out by the police. When he said he had a wife my first terrifying thought was he was trying to lul you into a false sense of security so you trusted him. But when he said he had kids I was so scared for you, he looked waaaay too old to have young kids still living with him he just wanted to seem legit so you’d go to his house. When he told you to come take a closer look at the van I was nearly sick. Thank god you got away safely. 100% a predator.
Yeah I was thinking the same shit, I highly highly doubt he has a wife and kids at home. I would bet money on it that he lives alone… so damn weird
@@EastLaStrays 100%!
Regardless of if he has a wife and children He was 100% attempting to manipulate her. Many predators do have wives and children. But they know they can use that information to manipulate a person into doing what they want. In this case he wanted her to relocate. Come to his house, move to the other side of the mountain and come closer to get a better look. He’s testing how he can manipulate her and if he can get her to do what he says.
@@Lheitz05 Many do have a wife and or kids and many don’t. Like I said, I don’t think he does at all. He was just using it as a way to make her trust him so she feels safe enough to go back to his house because females are way easier to trust to other females especially one’s travelling alone.
The Canadian girl murderer Paul Bernardo had a wife and she helped.
Sounds like a genuine guy, you should've had a shower at his house definitely safe and not getting disappeared into his dungeon.
When you were folding laundry after the first encounter I was sitting here screaming "GIRL GET OUT OF THERE!!" SO glad you are safe!
This is my first time watching her videos and she seems nice and funny, however, she was way too friendly to a stranger. I understand being polite is ingrained in us, but the multiple questions from a stranger would have been a huge red flag and I would have cut the conversation and told him I wanted to be alone. It’s better being thought of as unfriendly person than a non existing friendly person.
Omg I felt the same been in that situation...the other guy he made up was him tryin to scare you into his arms
Right I was wondering why she wasn’t leaving after he left instead of folding laundry.
Same here. I was not staying to finish any laundry. When he came back I would not have been there.
@@hakimbandaru1915and she even let him have her TH-cam information about her channel that's why he was defending himself 😮Imean really
My reading of the situation:
-Over explaining like Alyssa mentioned
-He either didnt pick up on or didnt care about the non-verbal cues that were given in the first convo; she wasnt interacting much, it was clear she was not interested in the interaction, yet he lingered around. He is excited/getting a thrill out of talking to Alyssa
-In second convo his objective is to get you to move to the secluded side (hence the elaborate plan)
-He doesnt like that you said you will leave, "its not that you need to leave"
-When you wants you to look at white truck, he at min wants to get close to you (thrilled by the thought likely), if you had its possible he would have tried something right there; serial killers/attackers often retell stories just like this where "opportunities" or plans change on the fly; they often dont need to be masterminds to commit their crimes
-As you say you will be leaving soon, he replies "well thats your choice" (a subconscious tell that he's not happy about it; like saying "honestly" right before you lie)
-As he stares he is frustrated that things arent going to plan and hes about to loss you; he is trying to figure out what to do; apart of him wants to do something right then
You broke him out of the trance at the end. Police probably wont do anything BUT it would be great if there was at least a paper trail about this event. That way if anything happens again with someone else it wouldnt be the first incident on record (or worse scenarios as well......)
EXACTLY!!!
Damm yo ass need be on investigation discovery!
Good point! 👍
SPOT ON!!!!!
“That’s your choice” is very telling. The obv reply for someone concerned would be “that’s probably a good idea”.
His body language said it all. The rubbing of the steering wheel, the quick eyebrow raise, and that long stare. He was wanting to pounce.
Either he knew sge was filming or he sensed she would/ could fight him.
That was very disconcerting.. to pause like that. Freaky.
Sure hope this was forwarded to LE
It's the preoccupation with the shower that really makes me (as a guy) stop and start questioning his motives. Respectfully, women don't have as good of intuition as they think they do when it comes to men. Guys would probably confirm that if they were being honest. What a woman CAN do is take note of different factors such as body language and use those as a way to avoid (possible) danger. Unfourtunately, different kinds of men display different types of aggression, so what alarmed women in this clip might not warn them if another age or demographic of man was a threat to them.
@@matthewmosier8439 I made mention of the shower obsession in 2 otter comment threads and his mentioning his wife several times was a giveaway for me. Not so much the wife word but the placement of the mention .
I would've been out of there ( prob wouldn't have parked there to begin with ) on the first pass through.
And many other things I would have done differently. .
I don't think iys gender based per se
I think some people have better intuition( and Follow it). Than others..esp when it comes to violenice ( not just flirting etc)
Having said all that
I think she handled it well
( except admitting being alone and doing " house chores " and not leaving first time)
For a younger person and def she gave him a vibe of onto him / strength at the end
I think she had protection w her as well
The offer of shower repeated was a strong tell.
The other guy w water too
I believe most predators wouldn't be this obvious .and that's the highly concerning part
@@natashab3412 I wasn't suggesting that women specifically don't have good intuition. I meant that they don't understand men nearly as much as they think they do. I happen to know this because I've worked on two man teams, myself and another guy, quite a bit. We would be in customers houses installing kitchen appliances. Women were transparent with how they felt uncomfortable around me (I'm quiet) by leaving the room whenever I would walk in after going to fetch a tool, etc. The guys I worked with were often womanizers. Not really upstanding people, sometimes. Definitely not good boyfriend material, often going on about women other than their wives or girlfriends when we were working through the day. Women loved them, though. They would sit there and listen to lies about how they had things under control with the install when they were having problems and didn't really have a fix for them and were bluffing, and the women ate it up because their instincts didn't fire due to the guy's personality. It was just so ironic to watch it day after day. That's what I'm drawing from whenever I hear a woman talk as if "her intuition" can sniff out threats.
I'll readily admit that guys can be just as misguided when trying to vet girls to date.
@@matthewmosier8439 Men can and do fall for cons scams all the time
In business etc. Humans do .
And women can use men without them knowing as well
I would agree that many women don't realize the level & the nature in which men talk about them w each other in groups. Often guys most people wouldn't expect would be that way. But again, easier Sussed out if one has well honed senses
Most mature experienced alert women i know wouldn't fall for the house repair or car repair bs .& the overly " ill save you " vibes.
As well. someone being quiet isn't a tell in and of itself.. certainly not.
I've always been highly perceptive w males and females too.
I def think , for the most part. , its more to do w the individual than gender based .
But fr yoir prospective and your job perhaps you view that behavior more than you'd care to.
I worked w a younger fairly attractive mostly intelligent guy .. he was being totally played by this one girl he was dating. She constantly laughed about it too
We told him exactly how.. but . He really bought into her bs. Thats one of hundred examples I've seen.
It goes both ways imo
Statistically men predate more
But they attack other males frequently too.
Everyone needs to have their guard up even more these days it seems
Too much societal disconnect
trauma etc
You are very brave. Thanks for sharing your journey with us. Please be safe out there.
1. He sounded drunk. 2. He was definitely describing himself with the watching/giving people water 3. He wanted you to move to “the other side” because that’s where he’d be more comfortable attacking you
What do you think he would have done to her?
You could hear his disappointment when she said she was going to leave the area instead of move. Super creep.
@@cowardlylion9947 obviously not something good.
@@fayettevillain1171 Obviously. But why is no one saying what they think he wanted to do? They are saying that he wanted to grab her or attack her etc. Personally I think he wanted to rape her. TH-cam will probably delete my comment for using that word eventhough it is the word used everywhere else for that crime. Why are people afraid of using this word on TH-cam when it is accepted everywhere else or why are TH-cam banning a perfectly legal word.
And if she took any water from him it would almost certainly have been drugged. And if he's not a serial killer this guy needs some mind his own freaking business.
You’ve got guardian angels watching over you. There was no other person on the hill. He was the person on the hill, watching you with binoculars. I would show this to the local police. If he’s harmed anyone, it could be the tip they’ve been waiting for to solve a crime.
Yep let the cops see this in case someone is missing.
Absolutely agree. .
Very good point!
I agree
I agree. He was watching you from the hill and wanted you to know it. He was getting off on frightening you. He's a wrong'un. So glad you got out of there. What a piece of shit.
When he said ", nothing spooky or anything" I instantly got nervous, it's like the old "you can trust me, I'm a good guy, you can trust me".
Yep yep.
A good person never needs to say they are a good person
@@Young_TechiezDecent but socially awkward people who know from experience that people can become defensive sometimes feel a need to attempt to reassure. Most people are just lonely and looking for any moment of connection. The guy in the video not included obviously.
The way he stares at you makes me think he’s trying to convince himself to either do or do not go after you. Glad you’re ok.
Notice how the bird in the background started chirping as soon as he pulled up. Animals have great intuition.
Let get a posse and pay a visit???
Yes so true.
dude said you can come shower at his house when his wife and family are home yet he has NO WEDDING RING! old timers always wear wedding bands.
They sure do, birds have alerted me to Stalkers quite a few times!! Note to everybody here: IF YOU HEAR A BIRD CHIRPING AT NIGHT, SOMEONES NOT GOOD IS AROUND.
💯💯💯
As a mother of daughters older than you. I was so disgusted and angry over this old creepy man and yes, he was serial killer material 100% and he was scoping you out. You would have had a visitor in the Night maybe just to disable your tires or do something to keep you there. You handled yourself wonderfully and did the right thing to leave asap. This is a great learning tool for others especially young women traveling. Thank you for posting this.
You would think someone who loves her wud tell her she putting herself in a vulnerable position to began with js yall watching her content for entertainment but yall shud game her up n tell her to stop this before she comes up missing if yall really so called like or fw her
Girl don't travel to isolated places alone. Not everyone has good intentions. This was so scary
@@mucleboy0151 oh shut up & stop telling other people how to live.
It’s sketch how he came back and said “there’s a weird guy going around to see who might need water” when that’s exactly what he just did 😂
Right. He’s talking about himself he sounds demonically mental.
I thought it was another guy🤦🏽♀️🤣. Pls be safe u folded ur clothes
Telling people you're a nomad means it wouldn't matter if you disappeared. No one would know if you disappeared. Just remember you don't have to tell everybody everything. They're strangers. You can lie to them too
The long creepy stare wasn’t hidden under those sunglasses. He was clearly deciding whether he was close enough to attack you or not. So spooky I have the chills. Glad you’re safe❤
Right! Not only the stare, but the rubbing of the thumb on the steering wheel tells he was in high anticipation or something nefarious pondering
Exactly.. Everything about him was screaming this, as well. His body language, the weird lies and like she pointed out, over explaining why/what he was doing.
That awkward pause was terrifying. He was definitely contemplating what to do.
When he was describing the guy's "truck" that was near, he asked her to, "come out" and he'll show her. Definitely a rouse to get her closer!
Soo scary! I'm glad she has common sense!
Exactly
This was so scary to watch him just staring and not speaking.. Jeeeee
@@donnaheard24yeah, it happened for WAY too long. Almost 20 seconds.
He looks like he was contemplating doing something to her. He's creepy. He doesn't have a wife, thats the last women he tricked to go to his house for a shower. That person watching you is him and he's the same guy offering people water. Worth reporting to the police in case someone goes missing.
And why was he there in the first place. He not a ranger and is driving in one of those golf carts. I see a lot of cases were deserted areas are usually dumping sites for bodies, waste, etc. I know this is a year ago but girl. And you’re right he has no wife.
His wife is the dressed up corpse he keeps sitting in a dining room chair
Someone should go check his basement, creepy freaking old fart.
He was definitely the guy watching 😂☠️ I can’t believe she didn’t mace this guy
@@COSMLOOP legally he did not do anything that would justify her doing anything, but she could have been more direct with him to let him know he was not welcolm there. I would have told him not to worry about me that I did not need water or anything else and that I had the means of taking care of anyone that troubled me, he would get the hint. tell him not to bother me again, use those word and use them strongly. Then leave the area. Creepos hate it when they have the tables turned on them and they go away to find another victim.
When he was staring it looked to me like he was deciding to quickly jump off and grab you or not. This is really scary. I hope the cops look into this guy
That's exactly what he was doing.
What? Really?
Yes
I could feel my heart pouding out of my chest during that encounter.
Swear or deciding if he should do something or not
What sealed the deal for me was when he told you to come over to him so that you could see the white truck. I am so glad that you did not lower your guard and go over to him.
When he went silent I got chills. Thank God she is safe.
Yup the fun times of being female and travelling alone. Personally I would have drove away after the first guy paid a visit and folded laundry later 🤷🏻♂️
No s*** that was freaky as hell! That f****** weirdo was contemplating in his mind right then & there in that moment whether he was going to do something or not.
@@dankelly5150 it was the same guy, he stopped by her camp 2 times.
@@cassandramartindale7727 OK but she mentioned that she thought she heard a couple of people talking in the distance so it made me believe there might have been 2 different people.
She should've put on her BIKINI, drink some VODKA and do some YOGA .... and then finish folding her laundry! 😄👍
That creepy af lingering silent stare at the end tells me that you got lucky. Next time forget about your laundry and GO! Stay safe💛
Exactly! She should have left as soon as he came up the first time! And she's saying she's full blooded Texan means nothing to a person who could hurt her since she was out there alone.
She didn't know if he had a weapon or not. Safety should be a priority and being in an area with other people around is important.
He was so sus. That stare was his brain working out the logistics and consequences of what he really wanted to do... which was NOTHING GOOD.
Exactly! At one point it looked like he was gonna make a move toward her but changed his mind. It was incredibly stupid of her to continue folding damn laundry instead of thinking of her life and getting tf out of there as soon as she felt uncomfortable the first time he came around!
Who the hell is that man? He should be exposed. He is a SICK PERVERT.
Did it ever occur to ANYONE that maybe he was staring off at something behind her? A car driving on the road that he right he recognized, or someone driving fast... who knows. Nobody saw his eyes, so nobody knows where he was looking
This was the creepiest nomad video I have ever seen. Im so glad you got him on camera. But you took way too long to leave. Never feel obligated to be friendly. Never feel like your just being paranoid. This guy was going to do something.
Absolutely, the vibes were so off key! No decent guy would approach a vulnerable woman alone like that because he knows how it might appear to her. He was a predator especially when he started claiming someone else was doing exactly what he was doing and he knew she knew
well he also said come out and look at the truck so you would get near him. good for you for trusting yourself!!!
When someone talks to you like that, you leave immediately. You don't fold your laundry, you don't wait for them to come back, you go. You dodged a bullet.
Do you know what it's like to have a social media platform doing everything in its power to make sure nothing you say is seen by the public? 😂😂😂 Even making up new rules to the English language? 🤣🤣🤣 TH-cam LEAVE ME AND MY POSTS ALONE!!! NOTHING I HAVE SAID HAS VIOLATED ANY OF YOUR RULES AND GUIDELINES!!! I AM ALSO FILMING MYSELF TYPING THIS COMMENT!!! *SO LEAVE ME ALONE!!!*
@@youtubeillegallydeletesacc1525 Dude go away lmao.
@@Drux.i Hahaha.... no.
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!!!
Exactly. She should have left after the first encounter.
You handled yourself really well, you were calm, didn’t show any signs of distress, you went along with his made up narrative, you had him on camera, you kept him engaged and not brushed him off, and you asked him for his name. Brilliant.
Yes bc my scary ass probably would’ve startled him just by my sudden moves, I would have driven over my solar panels, and probably hit one of those desert holes. So I give you praise for remaining calm during this terrifying episode. This has such horror-movie vibes. WRONG TURN...utterly terrifying!!!!!
The guy had no water with him. And high key just stared for 6 minutes no conversation. As a man of God I believe in prayer over violence but srlf defense is a wise necessity as well. I wouldn't have drank anything he had it was probably drugged. May God bless cover and keep you and messengers of God minister to you as you journey. And may God have mercy and heal the minds and hearts of men like that.
@@melrol8860 me too! 😱
Carin, Best Commit I’ve read ! Spot On !!
Infamous, Perfectly Said 200% Agree ! Love Your Commit !! Spot On !!
Don’t ever let them know your a traveling nomad! Always say your husband will be right back.
"We've been doing this traveling thing since he got honorably discharged from the Marine Corps"
This was my thought too! Always make them think you have a man with you. Or that you know a man in the area who is on his way to meet up with you (like your brother, dad, boyfriend etc) that you sent your location to.
I have a friend who stays nomad as a female and will put male boots outside the door of a night to make people believe there’s a male inside, and also has male things in her van to throw people off. Highly recommend sad that us women can’t enjoy the beautiful world stress free but please be safe 🤍
@@abbysmith6540you may have saved MY life with this tip. Smart idea!!
Good point.
Alyssa, I just started watching your channel & Subscribed & am loving your journey!!! "I'm a Retired Law Enforcement Veteran & when I heard that you were raised by a Military Family, I certainly know that you're smart enough to have some Protection onboard your vehicle, so just as a word of precaution, you should sincerely invest in a secure, floor mounted or glovebox mounted safe so that your Protection is secured while you're away from your vehicle showering, etc!!! Stay safe out there in your travels,Respectfully,Robert
He definitely tried to lure you closer, was quick to put his sunglasses back on to conceal his eye movement. I am glad your safe, retired Deputy Sheriff and Police officer.
The fact that the first thing he says to you is that he makes rounds to see if people in the area need water and then comes back and talks about *that other creepy guy* who makes rounds in the area to see if people need water ... Dafuq. Guy is literally so messed up in his creepster mind that he couldn't even come up with a better cover story than talking about himself as a different person. Ayayaye
They always tell on themselves!
I was so confused cuz it sounded like the exact same voice but also like he was talking about himself? Weirdo
@@flxwercxrpse1871…not always…Bundy didn’t even give anyone the time to engage much beyond saying hello.
@@XxSuicidalNinjaxXI thought it was a different person for a bit lol. He sounded similar but kinda different with the slight slurring so I thought oh that's a different guy because why would this genius think he could fool someone into thinking that *someone else* also said they like to give water to strangers?? 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
He was definitely the guy watching her from the mountains with binoculars!!!! So creepy 😣
That guy was creepy af. Especially the way he was stroking the steering wheel and staring at you. It’s like he was contemplating how best to grab you. He wanted you to go over to him so “you can see the truck better.” Your instincts were right. There was no one else watching you. Stay safe girl and God bless you!
100% what I was thinking. The stroking on the steering wheel, long stare…creepy af.
Agree- the part where he was staring and rubbing his thumb on the steering wheel, was unnerving. He 😂def had sinister plans. Glad you took off and are safe🙏🏻
HE was the one watching her! like HE was the one going around offering water. Beyond alarming.
I agree!
I agree 100%. The thumb stroking was him contemplating how to grab her. This guy is a big concern in my opinion.
That guy on the ATV was creepy as sh!t! I’ve been on the road since November 5, 2020. And I’ve had my share of “strange people” approaching my and my vehicle. Worse one was in the Salt Wash near Moab Utah near the Crescent Junction rest stop. It was smart to leave immediately. You should carry some pepper spray or a pistol. Trust me, I’m a retired army sergeant and don’t mess around with nonsense like that but even I carry a pistol and a shotgun when on the road! Best of luck and stay safe out there! 🇺🇸👍