Same here. There’s an epic video of him on here that’s about 10 minutes long. He’s hanging out at a range, talking to 10-12 guys. He explains his entire thesis of the gold swing. One of the things he said that resonates with me is, “We manage the mass of the club, so it’s useful.” Keeping the club in balance, so you can use natural forces. To me, he’s the best coach out there. I’ll look for the link and post it here.
@@ericschroeder8932 that would be cool to see Eric ;-) yes all we are trying to do is counterbalance the weight of the club throughout the swing which is the mass of the club you describe in Pete's video, thanks
I love this simple message that pete has about the "right side" and the arms moving the hips....but if you slow down any pga pro's swing..the hips clearly move before the arms.. So i am confused.
might be worth looking at this video with Pete talking about it in more detail with the Coiled Spring Analogy 👍 Part 1 th-cam.com/video/YryfraGMjFw/w-d-xo.html Part 2 th-cam.com/video/4A-28-kqVU8/w-d-xo.html
The answer is how your brain works : You have an intentended motion, let's say "arms down and around" and your brain figures out the firing pattern for ALL the muscles need to perform the intention. Conciously you don't use the hips, but they DO move first - so seeing something on video doesn't tell you what intention caused that motion! Your arms don't need to move for your hips to turn! But anatomically it is impossible to move the arms hitting a golf ball as Pete describes without the hips getting out of the way - but you don't need to have "hips" as intention, just arms - or hands for that matter. Hope that helped!
He used to go up and pause and just fire the hips so hard and struggle. Almost trying to get stuck. Nice to see him swinging more fluidly. Looks way easier on his body too
100% agree with everything said here. The hips need to get back behind the golfer as the player transitions into the downswing. Then the hips can fire and the lumbar extension can take place.
I did comment on there because someone couldn't understand what it meant, looks like it was taken down though :-( I talk about it in this video, and will have a new one out on it this weekend, thanks th-cam.com/video/T60Z4nzmnnM/w-d-xo.html
I watched the Danny Maude video and I felt like the boy who said “ the Emperor has no clothes” admittedly the video was an edit but I couldn’t comprehend what he was trying to explain. Pete can hit every short game shot but his explanation of how he’s doing it ( in the limited clips I’ve seen) don’t make sense on their own. He’s big on Pressure but there has to be a better way of trying to explain his “feeling” that the explanation given in these clips. I also think the students are so intimidated by his stature in the game they are afraid to ask any questions.
@@ulster7717 agree with what you are saying, but what you dont see in the short amount of videos on TH-cam is that Pete eventually leads his students to the answer, that is what the best coaches do in any sport. You will never see him just giving the answer away, it doesn't work that way you have to find the answer yourself. He wont hand over 50 years of knowledge in a quick lesson to anybody, I know that from spending some time with him and having numerous phone calls. I dont think students are intimidated, they are just trying to figure it out, it took me some time to figure it out so hopefully the last few transition videos will help you understand more of his teachings. This video here I am talking about the "Pressure Down"" Pete is describing and a drill to feel it, let me know if that works for you :-) thanks th-cam.com/video/T60Z4nzmnnM/w-d-xo.html
@@gforcegolf Thanks for the detailed reply. I agree Pete doesn’t give much away. I’ve always accepted he has great knowledge and why would you give this for free. In inner game coaching I can see the benefits of the student finding answers for themselves but in technical coaching , when watching as a third party, I find it very frustrating. I’m actually very surprised that Pete is sharing anything with others that he knows will be broadcast to 1000s given how protective he is of his hard acquired knowledge. He need not worry as I’ve watch all all of his recent clips and didn’t find anything I could personally put into to practice.
@@ulster7717 this video explains the Pressure Down Pete is describing, and getting the arms down to match up with the body rotation + drills to feel it, th-cam.com/video/T60Z4nzmnnM/w-d-xo.html The last few recent videos I did starting at Transition Part 1 have the concepts he uses, so I will be able to get you to understand it better and feel it with specific drills and using the GForce swing trainer to help with awareness, feel, transition and timing. Ive studied Pete's teachings for many years now, so will be sharing because it is the best stuff out there, but not many people understand it, it even took me a while :-) thanks
that's what I like about Pete, as far back as I can see his stuff on TH-cam and you just confirmed 1995 way before TH-cam, his message is consistently the same, he is not trying to re-invent himself or change anything, his concepts are 100% solid 👍
Slow the speed down to .25 and watch his last swing at 1:27....he doesn't move his hips "down" at all, like Cowen is telling him to. Everyone thinks when they practice something new it is happening in the swing, it isn't. You're body during that one second it takes to swing a club is still going to swing it the same way it always has. There are no "secret moves".....your muscle memory is set in stone if you've played several rounds of golf. But teachers love taking your money. Ask yourself this question....If there are real "secrets" to this game, they why are there more teachers now, than ever?
Hi Eddie, maybe Hideki isn't doing it correctly yet.? :-) Like Cowen says in the video it takes time and reps. What Cowen is describing is actually happening, but it is difficult to see with the naked eye which most golf instruction is based around unfortunately, that is why I am a small handful of coaches in the world that use Gears 3D to give accurate instruction. Have a look at this video I did using Gears to analyse the average tour player model taken from 100's of players, it clearly shows the lowering Cowen is describing in the video, thanks th-cam.com/video/4A-28-kqVU8/w-d-xo.html
This appears to be the same hip/pelvis movement Padraig Harrington talks about in a couple of his videos on how to clear and how to move the pelvis/hips. Hideki is already a great golfer so if he hasn't been doing this move up until this point why does he need to do it now? Just my 2cents worth I have no idea what's going on here.
Harrington used to have lessons with Pete so that's where he would get it from, a lot of pros are working on the wrong stuff or thinking about stuff that doesn't really matter, this move does really matter 👍
@@gforcegolf I thought Padraig might have mentioned his name in those videos. I wasn't going to even try it cos it looked to insane to me but I did and it wasn't as bad as I thought. It might be working for me but to early to tell. The really golden thing is that my customary "yank" from the top might actually be a good thing if I understood this video right.
@@frankmollegaard1989 as long as you lower your body before you pull the chain "Smoothly" in transition, then accelerate it down, dont yank it..! Like a swing in the park changes direction before you push it, if you push too soon the chains lose tension, same thing happens with the GForce Swing Trainer, you need a smooth change in direction otherwise the shaft lets you know, making it difficult to hit because you will lose tension in the shaft, you need to pull it down "Pull The Slack Out The Shaft" think of the golf shaft as a piece if string, you cant push a string you can only pull it "Centripetal Force" #Physics Also the lowering is scary for a lot of golfers because you think you will hit the ground, but you wont if you stay out of your own way "Your Central Nervous System" will do all the calculations for you if you let it and trust it :-) thanks
Hi David, Pete means how the shoulders move to transfer the energy from body to club. [Loading] the shoulders would be like how a boxer moves his shoulders to then [Unload] the shoulders to deliver a knock out punch. The shoulder movement is from the rotator cuff, lats and triceps... I have a video out on Loading the Shoulders in a few weeks, subscribe to my channel to get updated when it releases :-) thanks
The pressure isnt downward until close to impact. If you are pressing down early in the backswing there is a thing called "early extension". If you press down the ground pushes back so if you push down you go up! Im thinking this video left out some key details.
Your right about the ground pushing back but disagree with your comment. If you did not lower you would fall over or compensate in other ways to hit the ball. You have to lower to push your hips backwards which prevents early extension. Take a look at the 3D analysis I did in the link below where you can clearly see the lowering Pete is describing 👍 Watch the full video because it is very good, but if you want to skip to the point you are discussing go to [5.00s] th-cam.com/video/4A-28-kqVU8/w-d-xo.html
@@gforcegolf the hips "lower" from moving AWAY(hip depth) from the ball not downward. So yes the HIPS move back and downward but you are not pressing your feet downward. 2 very différent things! How do you move your hips away from the ball? Not pressing down. When the feet push down the hips extend.
@@gforcegolf this is why I no longer research this swing online. There are only two or three coaches that I actually appreciate their information. The issue that I have is the majority of you talk about effects and not causes. So his hips doing that is not a Cause of power it's an effect from what he's doing with the ground. Yet what exactly is he doing with the ground? What is the cause? How do I do it? How does it translate outside of theory? The majority of online "instruction" is more about swing theory than actual instruction. All you were telling me is what he's doing and nothing about how to do it. That's not instruction that's relaying information. Imagine I'm teaching you to be a train conductor and all I do is tell you what the train conductor is doing but not how to do it at all. I would say he moves his elbow to 37° and he grips the throttle at about 76% grip pressure. Lol😂
Garry--I had the exact same same question. I responded to a comment directly to GForce and hoping to get a reply--because although I am having much better luck with my irons using these approaches--- I have had huge problems with translating lots of Pete C's stuff to my driver. Hopefully he responds to my note---DK
@@Dkiash playing irons really well shot 76 yesterday my lowest score for a long time but have used Marcus edblad hitting with driver not swinging ,worth looking at his web site as it really works.But if you find out what Pete dose with the driver let me know.
@@garrymajor7528 Hi Garry. Congratulations on the 76-well done!! I’ll check out this other guy you mentioned and see what he has to say. In the meantime if I get a response back from GForce I’ll let you know as well. Tx for dropping a note back-
@@Dkiash it’s a hit not a swing and just saw Tiger giving a lesson to a friend describing the same thing ,releasing the right hand just before release,the right hand must overtake the left hand at the ball.But if you check it out Marcus explains it really well.Hope this helps remember it comes in English and Swedish obviously go for the English.
@@garrymajor7528 Garry-I went and looked at several of Marcus’s videos-his stuff looks really good. I especially liked the one about “this is key” video where he talks about unfolding the arm-unfold the elbow straight down-while the body rotates-vertical versus rotary-and he goes on to say how difficult this is. Amen to that this has been the bane of my golf swing for years now. What’s really interesting is this guidance is exactly what Pete Cowen teaches. I have over the past year or so started to read everything I can find of Cowen’s-and I got an older DVD of his-and have had some real breakthroughs (when I can overcome my well ingrained tendencies from years of hitting balls the wrong way and expensive and marginal instruction along the way). Cowen is hard-because he has held his instructional principals very close to his vest for years-and you have to really pay attention and untangle the message he is delivering-but as he has gotten older-he is starting to open up more-I presumably to establish a record of his principals and methods-and often releasing more details through other instructors like Maude and this GForce guy-and he even gave an instructor a full swing lesson a couple months ago-and it’s on the guys You Tube site. In any event I am not sure if Marcus’s ideas will work for me-will find out more today-but his approach and observations make really good sense and he explains them in a very straightforward and understandable fashion. Thanks for sharing his name-I had never heard of him. I haven’t heard anything back on the original question. I did look at a couple of Marcus’s driver videos-which describes a very different way to look at the driver swing-so might give that a whirl as well this week.
This is absolutely “Mike Malaska 101” He speaks of this same concept over and over again, In just about every one of his videos. People call it the “Malaska Tip-Out.”
I’ll agree to disagree. Malaska talks about his move getting the club on plane by slight manipulation of the hands. Pete’s overarching thesis of the golf swing is pressure, and no manipulation. Malaska’s is about moving the hands/arms, Pete’s is about moving the body (arms, hips, etc) using downward pressure. Two different schools of thought. That’s my take on it. Cheers
No, the ground pushes you back up " for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" but yes definitely if your weight is on your back foot. All the best strikers lower before and / or during transition, we must lower to harness the forces from the swing...check out my "Balance Point" video here, thanks Long Version th-cam.com/video/pqCWu9Ewhxc/w-d-xo.html Short Version th-cam.com/video/GPpZ34jP1ao/w-d-xo.html
@@gforcegolf Tx for sharing all this info--much appreciated.I noticed at the front end of the video that he said "the driver is very, very different". I have noticed--as I have adopted more and more of Pete C's stuff [which seems to work well by the way once you can decode some of it--like "spiral the hands up as well as the body"--that my iron contact and compression is really much, much better along with ball flight and direction---EXCEPT with my driver--which to be honest--I cannot hit at all now. Any thoughts on this front? Tx so much again GF for sharing all this great otherwise unavailable info!! Dave K
@@Dkiash thanks Dave, here is a video I did on driving with some GEARS 3D analysis of Rory McIlroys swing, Driver V's Iron swing. You need to apply Pete Cowen's stuff with it too, lowering the hips and arms etc :-) th-cam.com/video/kFdzd0qXEmA/w-d-xo.html
Its the correct way Lee, I proved it using Gears 3D. Check out this video where I analyse a tour player doing exactly what Pete is describing. th-cam.com/video/4A-28-kqVU8/w-d-xo.html Players need to lose height to balance out the forces generated in the swing otherwise they would get pulled over, also losing height or compressing the body downwards pushes your tailbone backwards out of the way (prevents early extension) creating more room for the arms and club, and it also has a big influence on how you turn through correctly and efficiently. Here is a valid reason why you should be lowering, thanks Short Version - "Dont Keep Your Height" th-cam.com/video/GPpZ34jP1ao/w-d-xo.html Long Version - "Balance Point" th-cam.com/video/pqCWu9Ewhxc/w-d-xo.html
@@jamestonks3042 No, but it would be more challenging to the average golfer. I would like to see how he handles a student who doesn't get it right away.
I taught average golfers for over 20 years, this would be the best approach using this split hand drill, you can feel the Pressure going down through your legs which I describe in the video. th-cam.com/video/T60Z4nzmnnM/w-d-xo.html Also the Football Drill, same effect Pete is describing watch Part 1 & 2, everybody can pick it up quickly with these drills, thanks Part 1 - Transition th-cam.com/video/7mAjIR058gY/w-d-xo.html Part 2 - Transition th-cam.com/video/gxSaIrBm8Z4/w-d-xo.html
Perhaps it is due to the fact that what he promotes you have already bought into. It is like many instructors really, different people will pick up different tips from different instructors.
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..it’s cool to see a great player like Hideki having the humility to learn and improve, that’s part of being a great player I think
This is huge, always on the hunt for more Pete Cowen stuff and to see this lesson with Hideki is awesome
I've been waiting years to find this "Gold" too :-) will have a breakdown version of it coming soon, thanks
Same here. There’s an epic video of him on here that’s about 10 minutes long. He’s hanging out at a range, talking to 10-12 guys. He explains his entire thesis of the gold swing. One of the things he said that resonates with me is, “We manage the mass of the club, so it’s useful.” Keeping the club in balance, so you can use natural forces. To me, he’s the best coach out there. I’ll look for the link and post it here.
@@ericschroeder8932 that would be cool to see Eric ;-) yes all we are trying to do is counterbalance the weight of the club throughout the swing which is the mass of the club you describe in Pete's video, thanks
@@gforcegolf here you go. I think this is pretty amazing. 🙌🏻
th-cam.com/video/_2cqErl2HpE/w-d-xo.html
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Seeing a world class player with a world class coach. Does it get any better?? How fortunate to see it!
I love this simple message that pete has about the "right side" and the arms moving the hips....but if you slow down any pga pro's swing..the hips clearly move before the arms..
So i am confused.
might be worth looking at this video with Pete talking about it in more detail with the Coiled Spring Analogy 👍
Part 1 th-cam.com/video/YryfraGMjFw/w-d-xo.html
Part 2 th-cam.com/video/4A-28-kqVU8/w-d-xo.html
The answer is how your brain works : You have an intentended motion, let's say "arms down and around" and your brain figures out the firing pattern for ALL the muscles need to perform the intention. Conciously you don't use the hips, but they DO move first - so seeing something on video doesn't tell you what intention caused that motion! Your arms don't need to move for your hips to turn! But anatomically it is impossible to move the arms hitting a golf ball as Pete describes without the hips getting out of the way - but you don't need to have "hips" as intention, just arms - or hands for that matter. Hope that helped!
at last I got this, I'm always standing up.....thanks Pete...
He used to go up and pause and just fire the hips so hard and struggle. Almost trying to get stuck. Nice to see him swinging more fluidly. Looks way easier on his body too
nice. Thanks, Jay.
If I can get to where I can hit it as solid as Hideki I think I'll be satisfied. No more need to improve.
100% agree with everything said here. The hips need to get back behind the golfer as the player transitions into the downswing. Then the hips can fire and the lumbar extension can take place.
Thank you!!
Check out the lesson he did with Danny Maude on chipping. Same talk about pressuring the ground both with the feet and with the club. Very cool.
I did comment on there because someone couldn't understand what it meant, looks like it was taken down though :-(
I talk about it in this video, and will have a new one out on it this weekend, thanks
th-cam.com/video/T60Z4nzmnnM/w-d-xo.html
I watched the Danny Maude video and I felt like the boy who said “ the Emperor has no clothes” admittedly the video was an edit but I couldn’t comprehend what he was trying to explain. Pete can hit every short game shot but his explanation of how he’s doing it ( in the limited clips I’ve seen) don’t make sense on their own. He’s big on Pressure but there has to be a better way of trying to explain his “feeling” that the explanation given in these clips. I also think the students are so intimidated by his stature in the game they are afraid to ask any questions.
@@ulster7717 agree with what you are saying, but what you dont see in the short amount of videos on TH-cam is that Pete eventually leads his students to the answer, that is what the best coaches do in any sport.
You will never see him just giving the answer away, it doesn't work that way you have to find the answer yourself. He wont hand over 50 years of knowledge in a quick lesson to anybody, I know that from spending some time with him and having numerous phone calls.
I dont think students are intimidated, they are just trying to figure it out, it took me some time to figure it out so hopefully the last few transition videos will help you understand more of his teachings.
This video here I am talking about the "Pressure Down"" Pete is describing and a drill to feel it, let me know if that works for you :-) thanks
th-cam.com/video/T60Z4nzmnnM/w-d-xo.html
@@gforcegolf Thanks for the detailed reply. I agree Pete doesn’t give much away. I’ve always accepted he has great knowledge and why would you give this for free. In inner game coaching I can see the benefits of the student finding answers for themselves but in technical coaching , when watching as a third party, I find it very frustrating. I’m actually very surprised that Pete is sharing anything with others that he knows will be broadcast to 1000s given how protective he is of his hard acquired knowledge. He need not worry as I’ve watch all all of his recent clips and didn’t find anything I could personally put into to practice.
@@ulster7717 this video explains the Pressure Down Pete is describing, and getting the arms down to match up with the body rotation + drills to feel it,
th-cam.com/video/T60Z4nzmnnM/w-d-xo.html
The last few recent videos I did starting at Transition Part 1 have the concepts he uses, so I will be able to get you to understand it better and feel it with specific drills and using the GForce swing trainer to help with awareness, feel, transition and timing.
Ive studied Pete's teachings for many years now, so will be sharing because it is the best stuff out there, but not many people understand it, it even took me a while :-) thanks
Pete was telling me that in 1995 when I used to have lessons with him at Lindrick golf club.
that's what I like about Pete, as far back as I can see his stuff on TH-cam and you just confirmed 1995 way before TH-cam, his message is consistently the same, he is not trying to re-invent himself or change anything, his concepts are 100% solid 👍
Slow the speed down to .25 and watch his last swing at 1:27....he doesn't move his hips "down" at all, like Cowen is telling him to.
Everyone thinks when they practice something new it is happening in the swing, it isn't.
You're body during that one second it takes to swing a club is still going to swing it the same way it always has.
There are no "secret moves".....your muscle memory is set in stone if you've played several rounds of golf.
But teachers love taking your money. Ask yourself this question....If there are real "secrets" to this game, they why are there more teachers now, than ever?
Hi Eddie, maybe Hideki isn't doing it correctly yet.? :-) Like Cowen says in the video it takes time and reps. What Cowen is describing is actually happening, but it is difficult to see with the naked eye which most golf instruction is based around unfortunately, that is why I am a small handful of coaches in the world that use Gears 3D to give accurate instruction. Have a look at this video I did using Gears to analyse the average tour player model taken from 100's of players, it clearly shows the lowering Cowen is describing in the video, thanks
th-cam.com/video/4A-28-kqVU8/w-d-xo.html
Legend coach ❤
This appears to be the same hip/pelvis movement Padraig Harrington talks about in a couple of his videos on how to clear and how to move the pelvis/hips. Hideki is already a great golfer so if he hasn't been doing this move up until this point why does he need to do it now? Just my 2cents worth I have no idea what's going on here.
Harrington used to have lessons with Pete so that's where he would get it from, a lot of pros are working on the wrong stuff or thinking about stuff that doesn't really matter, this move does really matter 👍
@@gforcegolf I thought Padraig might have mentioned his name in those videos. I wasn't going to even try it cos it looked to insane to me but I did and it wasn't as bad as I thought. It might be working for me but to early to tell. The really golden thing is that my customary "yank" from the top might actually be a good thing if I understood this video right.
@@frankmollegaard1989 as long as you lower your body before you pull the chain "Smoothly" in transition, then accelerate it down, dont yank it..!
Like a swing in the park changes direction before you push it, if you push too soon the chains lose tension, same thing happens with the GForce Swing Trainer, you need a smooth change in direction otherwise the shaft lets you know, making it difficult to hit because you will lose tension in the shaft, you need to pull it down "Pull The Slack Out The Shaft" think of the golf shaft as a piece if string, you cant push a string you can only pull it "Centripetal Force" #Physics
Also the lowering is scary for a lot of golfers because you think you will hit the ground, but you wont if you stay out of your own way "Your Central Nervous System" will do all the calculations for you if you let it and trust it :-) thanks
@@gforcegolf No yank. Darn, that's the only thing that's consistent in my golf swing lol.
Awesome stuff!
Pure gold!
Mr Cowan, when you say load the shoulder, what do you mean exactly.
Hi David, Pete means how the shoulders move to transfer the energy from body to club. [Loading] the shoulders would be like how a boxer moves his shoulders to then [Unload] the shoulders to deliver a knock out punch. The shoulder movement is from the rotator cuff, lats and triceps...
I have a video out on Loading the Shoulders in a few weeks, subscribe to my channel to get updated when it releases :-) thanks
Down pressure with a torquing of the ground as well for rotation. Sure.
yes, much easier and efficient to torque the ground with the down pressure
Great stuff
How about that smash hideki has 🔥
The pressure isnt downward until close to impact. If you are pressing down early in the backswing there is a thing called "early extension". If you press down the ground pushes back so if you push down you go up!
Im thinking this video left out some key details.
Your right about the ground pushing back but disagree with your comment. If you did not lower you would fall over or compensate in other ways to hit the ball. You have to lower to push your hips backwards which prevents early extension.
Take a look at the 3D analysis I did in the link below where you can clearly see the lowering Pete is describing 👍
Watch the full video because it is very good, but if you want to skip to the point you are discussing go to [5.00s]
th-cam.com/video/4A-28-kqVU8/w-d-xo.html
@@gforcegolf the hips "lower" from moving AWAY(hip depth) from the ball not downward. So yes the HIPS move back and downward but you are not pressing your feet downward. 2 very différent things! How do you move your hips away from the ball? Not pressing down. When the feet push down the hips extend.
@@gforcegolf ok so which direction do your feet press?
@@gforcegolf this is why I no longer research this swing online. There are only two or three coaches that I actually appreciate their information. The issue that I have is the majority of you talk about effects and not causes. So his hips doing that is not a Cause of power it's an effect from what he's doing with the ground. Yet what exactly is he doing with the ground? What is the cause? How do I do it? How does it translate outside of theory?
The majority of online "instruction" is more about swing theory than actual instruction. All you were telling me is what he's doing and nothing about how to do it. That's not instruction that's relaying information.
Imagine I'm teaching you to be a train conductor and all I do is tell you what the train conductor is doing but not how to do it at all. I would say he moves his elbow to 37° and he grips the throttle at about 76% grip pressure. Lol😂
But with the driver it’s very very different Pete says at the start can anyone tell me what the difference is.
Garry--I had the exact same same question. I responded to a comment directly to GForce and hoping to get a reply--because although I am having much better luck with my irons using these approaches--- I have had huge problems with translating lots of Pete C's stuff to my driver. Hopefully he responds to my note---DK
@@Dkiash playing irons really well shot 76 yesterday my lowest score for a long time but have used Marcus edblad hitting with driver not swinging ,worth looking at his web site as it really works.But if you find out what Pete dose with the driver let me know.
@@garrymajor7528 Hi Garry. Congratulations on the 76-well done!! I’ll check out this other guy you mentioned and see what he has to say.
In the meantime if I get a response back from GForce I’ll let you know as well. Tx for dropping a note back-
@@Dkiash it’s a hit not a swing and just saw Tiger giving a lesson to a friend describing the same thing ,releasing the right hand just before release,the right hand must overtake the left hand at the ball.But if you check it out Marcus explains it really well.Hope this helps remember it comes in English and Swedish obviously go for the English.
@@garrymajor7528 Garry-I went and looked at several of Marcus’s videos-his stuff looks really good. I especially liked the one about “this is key” video where he talks about unfolding the arm-unfold the elbow straight down-while the body rotates-vertical versus rotary-and he goes on to say how difficult this is. Amen to that this has been the bane of my golf swing for years now. What’s really interesting is this guidance is exactly what Pete Cowen teaches. I have over the past year or so started to read everything I can find of Cowen’s-and I got an older DVD of his-and have had some real breakthroughs (when I can overcome my well ingrained tendencies from years of hitting balls the wrong way and expensive and marginal instruction along the way). Cowen is hard-because he has held his instructional principals very close to his vest for years-and you have to really pay attention and untangle the message he is delivering-but as he has gotten older-he is starting to open up more-I presumably to establish a record of his principals and methods-and often releasing more details through other instructors like Maude and this GForce guy-and he even gave an instructor a full swing lesson a couple months ago-and it’s on the guys You Tube site.
In any event I am not sure if Marcus’s ideas will work for me-will find out more today-but his approach and observations make really good sense and he explains them in a very straightforward and understandable fashion. Thanks for sharing his name-I had never heard of him.
I haven’t heard anything back on the original question. I did look at a couple of Marcus’s driver videos-which describes a very different way to look at the driver swing-so might give that a whirl as well this week.
He’s got some pop.
This is absolutely “Mike Malaska 101”
He speaks of this same concept over and over again, In just about every one of his videos. People call it the “Malaska Tip-Out.”
I would say this is different. Mike calls it over the top from the inside .
Exact same motion as Malaska Tip-Out.
I’ll agree to disagree. Malaska talks about his move getting the club on plane by slight manipulation of the hands. Pete’s overarching thesis of the golf swing is pressure, and no manipulation. Malaska’s is about moving the hands/arms, Pete’s is about moving the body (arms, hips, etc) using downward pressure. Two different schools of thought.
That’s my take on it. Cheers
Wouldn't this cause you to make a fat contact? I cam just see me taking a foot of turf and that turf going further than the ball!
No, the ground pushes you back up " for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" but yes definitely if your weight is on your back foot. All the best strikers lower before and / or during transition, we must lower to harness the forces from the swing...check out my "Balance Point" video here, thanks
Long Version
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Short Version
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@@gforcegolf Tx for sharing all this info--much appreciated.I noticed at the front end of the video that he said "the driver is very, very different". I have noticed--as I have adopted more and more of Pete C's stuff [which seems to work well by the way once you can decode some of it--like "spiral the hands up as well as the body"--that my iron contact and compression is really much, much better along with ball flight and direction---EXCEPT with my driver--which to be honest--I cannot hit at all now. Any thoughts on this front? Tx so much again GF for sharing all this great otherwise unavailable info!! Dave K
@@Dkiash thanks Dave, here is a video I did on driving with some GEARS 3D analysis of Rory McIlroys swing, Driver V's Iron swing. You need to apply Pete Cowen's stuff with it too, lowering the hips and arms etc :-)
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What to do without Why… genius
Losing a lot of height in the downswing doing that hip movement can’t be good surely?? ⛳️⛳️
Its the correct way Lee, I proved it using Gears 3D. Check out this video where I analyse a tour player doing exactly what Pete is describing.
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Players need to lose height to balance out the forces generated in the swing otherwise they would get pulled over, also losing height or compressing the body downwards pushes your tailbone backwards out of the way (prevents early extension) creating more room for the arms and club, and it also has a big influence on how you turn through correctly and efficiently.
Here is a valid reason why you should be lowering, thanks
Short Version - "Dont Keep Your Height"
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Long Version - "Balance Point"
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Squeeze the lemon in the hip joint 👌
Deki shot 7 over and dq
Well, you probably won’t do it over a night…
Great, now show him teaching a regular joe golfer to do it, not a seasoned, honed in professional.
How would this make any difference. Would the drill change?
@@jamestonks3042 No, but it would be more challenging to the average golfer.
I would like to see how he handles a student who doesn't get it right away.
I taught average golfers for over 20 years, this would be the best approach using this split hand drill, you can feel the Pressure going down through your legs which I describe in the video.
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Also the Football Drill, same effect Pete is describing watch Part 1 & 2, everybody can pick it up quickly with these drills, thanks
Part 1 - Transition
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Part 2 - Transition
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@john11222100 Lol, I suppose I am.
@@gforcegolf Thank you very much.
And in other news Hideki hasn’t done anything in golf since this head fck
the lowering is a key move, you can see it explained using GEARS 3D in the link below👍
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I taught this move to my students and they all turned out gay.
I must be the only person on the planet who thinks Pete Cowan is a ‘snake oil salesman’! He is the epitome of ‘The Emperor’s Clothes’!
Perhaps it is due to the fact that what he promotes you have already bought into. It is like many instructors really, different people will pick up different tips from different instructors.