Free Speech And PragerU | Mia Mulder
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Free speech discussions online take on a pretty strange form, and it seems like it's only the wierd people talking about it. But what's the deal with that, and what can we learn from PragerU?
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Social anxiety is attacking my free speech by not letting me talk >:(
I mean... You right
oof, I feel you :(
I do it anyway as an act of rebellion and get panic attacks.
So the indoctrination has worked!
@@Jinx-iw6zb You won't get panic attacks, but you will feel fear, but after the first few times, you and your body's comfort zone should adapt.
Mia, I am a cis, white, mostly hetero male who has auditory/tactile synesthesia (I feel sound and occasionally I hear a touch, be it a painful slap or a gentle touch). I did not know I was a synesthete until I was in my 50's, though I knew my brain was not close to what doctors call "normal." I celebrate neural diversity!
I want to let you know that your videos and Abigail Thorn's of Philosophy Tube and others have helped me understand myself and every person I have interacted with since subscribing to your channel almost 3 years ago. I can not thank you enough for you honest videos.
now thats wholesome
@@alyti hella wholesome, so much /pos
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I was aware that I had some form of synesthesia, but I had never heard of this kind! I think you just described why I’ve always been so sensitive to loud sounds! Sounds are just so... jarring! And painful sometimes! And bright light makes me cold too. It sounds so weird to describe but it’s what it feels like. Thank you for sharing your experience... I think I’ve just had a mini self-realization.
@@kaleidoscopickait I think the first mention of this form of synesthesia was a medical journal paper in 2010 about a traumatic brain injury that lead to the patient feeling sounds and hearing touch. Most people are born with synesthesia and have some cross over into other forms i.e. Fresh artichokes taste violet, which is lovely and lemon meringue pie is a putrid orange to me. There are two FB groups dedicated to synesthesia, if want to learn more.
I am an American. I just wanted to drop a comment to use my authority and confirm that that James Madison impersonation was 100 percent accurate. We Americans are born with an innate understanding of what he sounded like, and Mia Mulder nailed it.
10/10 Father of the Constitution.
She left out the part where he did like a funny french accent every few lines.
@@fredericksmith7942 You're thinking of Jefferson.
@@bluepapaya77 Right! Sorry, I got the two confused.
I’m so glad she reposted. When I tried to watch this earlier and saw that it was privated my heart sunk.
it privated because the premiere broke and it wouldnt play :(
in mia's words, 'WHELP'
You’re right about length of videos being a factor. I am watching this video, but because it is 50 minutes long, it took me longer to get around to watching it than I might have done, because it felt like I had to set aside time to watch it (even though it is only roughly the length of the single episodes of many TV shows I watch), and I could see how someone would be tempted to just watch the shorter video.
I in contrast love to watch 50min high quality content videos. They are very rare and i love them very much. But i can understand you, if my concentration is low or i am tired i just watch other short videos first and save the high quality video to watch later list.
"PragerU is Vine for the alt-right" damn, Mia, go off
"University of Buenos Aires? Huh, that's cool, heard it's pretty good. Don't wanna brag, but I got my degree from MulderU."
I hear the philosophy program at MulderU is top notch.
I got mine from the Euskadi ta Askatasuna, also got my degree in worker's co-ops from there.
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"Do you like videos by Mia Mulder?" "Yes"; "Do you like takedowns of Prager U?" "Yes"; "Would you like both of those things at once?" "Yes, please!
New Mia Mulder Video the day I get confirmed for HRT? Damn today really is a good day.
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Edit. My new favorite James Madison quote - "I'm James Madison, hebebebebee"
I live in America. In America this discussion has a serious issue in that people believe free speech allows harassment, allows the repression of other people's opinions and allows them to essentially abuse whoever they want. The problem with this discussion is that one side is using it as a shield to commit abuses, and thus it is something we can't easily approach without getting into the mess of people's ignorance
I'll never get tired of PragerU getting dunked on.
Bro same
Filter bubbles can include showing you both things you believe (radicalising through an endless loop) as well as things you very strongly disagree with, getting you into discussions that keep you on the site or app for longer (also driving your views further in a direction)
When the algorithm gets clever it'll feed you people with differing opinions who are easy for you to win arguments against, making you happier to stay on the platform. And it'll send _them_ to a thread with someone they agree with winning and argument, to salve their feelings.
@@williamchamberlain2263 my point exactly.
I love the artistic standard PragerU graph because the right usually say that postmodernism in the 20th century is what “killed” “good art” but PragerU is like no, it’s the 80’s, the 80’s killed standards in art. Prior to the 80’s, great, fantastic, all artwork is unambiguously masterpieces but then the 80’s came along with their disco and, idk, gays and now art bad. Rip art, the 80’s killed it.
This is such a well made video. Thank you.
Thank you!
i love watching TH-camrs grow and get even better at their craft. in your most recent videos, you just seem so comfortable in front of the camera and there's an essential you-ness to your videos. Your content has always been amazing, obviously, but the editing, the script-writing, and the general presentation here feels so professional--and this was release really quickly after your last video, too!
I feel like the filter/corporate platform/etc issues are related to losing the idea of an irl public commons- it's a lot harder to manipulate speech in an irl town square or bar or whatever, but there isn't much of anywhere in the modern world where you can exist and discuss things without paying for it, and the internet kind of takes the place of those spaces- just a lot more controlled. Part of me thinks the solution to this is some spin on the "internet as a publicly owned utility" concept, but I have *no* idea what that would look like.
Eh, you can still stand in a town square or popular spot and try to drum up support.
Frankly people are just spoiled these days, thinking that they should be able to reach millions with their message, regardless.
At least back in the day, you had to start out by trying to convince others to spread your message.
Mia doesn't get enough credit for being funny as hell.
You are one of the most underrated channels on youtube
A video popped up on my TH-cam feed today, which was posted 2 weeks ago by PragerU titled: "If You Can Choose Your Gender Can You Choose Your Race?"
I could talk in length about how this question in itself is a false dilemma, but anyone watching those videos will never listen to my arguments anyway.
Now being trans is semi important to my response here,
Now I’m a trans woman, I DID NOT CHOOSE TO BE TRANS!! I don’t want to be the target of vitriol, from people, i didn’t choose to be of German Native American descent, making me look like I’m Italian or Spanish! I didn’t choose to be 2nd generation Canadian on my Opa’s side, or 3rd generation Canadian on my Oma’s side, I didn’t choose to be called a Nazi by alt left extremist because I’m descended from German heritage, i didn’t choose to be called a Nazi by the right because I can’t choose how I feel comfortable, I can’t choose to just not be called a halfbreed or highwayman because I’m Native/European mix, i didn’t choose any of this! Anyway just had to get that off my chest, also because my bio dad was a huge crook I have no link to my native heritage, my üroma passed away I have no familial way to learn Deutsch (German) I’m a Canadian with not much of a link to heritage, get hatred from all sides of the political spectrum, and all of that,
@@IceFoxPlaysActual I feel bad for you, but I don't know how to help but Snowy Plays (cute name) have been heard/read
@@esbeng.s.a9761 thank you, though this was more just me needing to get that frustrating off my chest
hi mia, im not sure if you read the comments but i did want to leave some feedback in case you see this! i haven’t seen any other videos yet, but you do great work, and i really hope that you/others can take my lil note to heart!
im autistic and a bit sensitive to loud noises/flashes on screen, and sudden bits like the one around 10:38 can really mess me up. i had this on while doing some schoolwork and it kinda freaked me out for a bit, lol. it’s not a huge deal, but it would make your videos a bit more comfy for someone like me if that sort of thing were introduced more clearly (like at the end of a sentence, like contra/others do) or if general volume was a bit lower. not trying to change the whole video or anything lol, but this sort of thing might help those of us with sensory challenges follow along a bit easier. thanks again for the awesome work- take care❤️
You've made me reconsider how I talk about platforms restricting content in general. What a great video
Ah damn I watched the entire video before it was re-uploaded, I hope that didn't happen to too many people, influencing the algorithm stats. It's a very good video, touched a bunch of thoughts I have on the topic.
I think it's especially noticable when platforms like twitter and youtube selectively enforce their community guidelines. They ban some alt-right channel and everybody is cheering, and then they ban an lgbtq creator and everybody is mad. And still I feel like nobody sees the underlying issue that these big companies just have absolute power over the most important communication and entertainment mediums in our generation. And this means both in direct terms through bans etc., but also through their machine learning algorithms which directly predict and influence our behaviour and do their best to turn us into social media addicts (gotta maximize that engagement!).
The only way I can think of to solve this problem would be to declare social media platforms as public infrastructure and build accessible, transparent open source alternatives with clear rules and guidelines.
I don't know how you would convince people to switch over though, when the constant dopamine feed of an algorithmically crafted timeline is exaclty what keeps people coming back to these platforms.
Thank you for the great video! My partner and I are professional learning-content animators and we’ve been building PraxisU as a channel to provide short videos for leftists in a similar format.
This is one of the best discussions I’ve seen on free speech in a while. This video really needs to blow up.
Regarding fact-checking (32:14) I have come up with a rule I apply to all TH-cam channels : I will fact-check any video I watch that raises my eyebrow at some point. If the facts check out, good. If the video lied or misrepresented, I ban the whole channel. Forever. Without appeal. And I extend the ban to all joint channels in cases of MCN's. I watched a couple Prager U videos years ago. I've never been on that channel once since then. I give no second chances. I place the onus on the content creator to fact-check. If they don't, I don't care where the "error" came from. Not my problem if you've been successfully lied to, it just means you're lazy and/or unreliable. This rule has saved me a lot of time and effort.
This video nicely summed up my own thoughts on the direction that the 'free speech' debate has gone over the last few years.Just far more eloquently than I can articulate it. Good job
last time i was this early youtube premieres were working properly
the joke is that im never early
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@@loukashareangas4420 *noot noot*
Did you know the more trans the youtuber the better the video essays?
Its just a joke, no negative intention, excellent work :)
I can't believe I've never seen your channel before! this vid showed up in my recommendations and I'm so glad it did.
I’m grateful for people like you. Thank you.
I somehow got recommended this video while watching Legends of Runterra Gameplay.
Not sure how this connects, but pretty good video.
I really like your video style-- simple, clean editing and a well-researched topic. Glad I subbed!
Some engagement for you. Very glad to have discovered your work!
A level playing field of _all_ ideas seems terrible. I'd take it over the current situation, but I don't want discriminatory ideas to have any kind of pedestal, like you mentioned with the principle of harm. I'm fine with ideas that are capitalist, libertarian, liberal, communist, anarchist, socialist, democratic, even authoritarian, and what have you being discussed on a level playing field, and I can see how each of them can bring something useful to the table, but there is nothing useful that can be gotten out of fascism, racism, sexism, or any of the bad -isms. Having them on a level playing field with other ideas as if they were equally valid causes nothing but harm.
But who determines which ideas cause nothing but harm, in different times and places "capitalist, libertarian, liberal, communist, anarchist, socialist, democratic, even authoritarian" ideas are considered to cause nothing but harm. The problem is not that we don't agree some ideas are bad and should not be considered, the problem is we can't agree which and more importantly how this should be determined.
Who defines and interprets those -isms, though? It's a big old world. There are people in it who consider BLM racist and feminist sexist (and some members probably are, as are some of their critics.) I fully agree free speech (like any social construct) needs controls. No one should be allowed to incite violence or make threats... but to me those threats need to be pretty tangible, and I think that, when in doubt, society should err on the side of tolerance.
It's a level playing field to express ideas, not the value of the ideas themselves. If someone says something racist or sexist, they can, but no one has to give it equal attention or equal legitimacy. Right now, racist, sexist people with money and power can essentially pay to have their ideas distributed widely and in a manner that suggests legitimacy while opposing voices are drowned out and de-legitimized. In a level playing field, all ideas might be equally accessible, but listeners can reject anything they don't like. Having money would not give someone an advantage.
i feel like not letting people discuss different things, is simply pretending that it doesn't exist. not actually dealing with it.
and also if something like that is limited from being talked about, people who do find it will be more likely to support it because after all 'why is no one allowed to talk about this?' - only they'd actually be right
It's a bit late, so I'll save it for tomorrow, but here's some engagement and I'll let it run in the background while I do something else :P
Everyone get a cup of tea, get comfy, this'll be good :)
Premier encounters technical difficulties, delaying the video's release.
First words of the video? "I am being silenced!"
COINCIDENCE?
I THINK... yes, probably
The Mia Mulder Drinking Game!
Drink every time you hear "We live in a society"
Drink for every reference to historical Germany
Finish your drink when a plant appears
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When I learned the history behind "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater" my opinion on the phrase turned hard lol
FYI: the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" thing is dicta from Schenck v US, 249 U.S. 47, 52 (1919) - saying that it's OK to criminalize socialists burning draft cards. The relevant part, verbatim (minus citations):
The document in question upon its first printed side recited the first section of the Thirteenth Amendment, said that the idea embodied in it was violated by the Conscription Act and that a conscript is little better than a convict. In impassioned language it intimated that conscription was despotism in its worst form and a monstrous wrong against humanity in the interest of Wall Street's chosen few. It said "Do not submit to intimidation," but in form at least confined itself to peaceful measures such as a petition for the repeal of the act. The other and later printed side of the sheet was headed "Assert Your Rights." It stated reasons for alleging that anyone violated the Constitution when he refused to recognize "your right to assert your opposition to the draft," and went on "If you do not assert and support your rights, you are helping to deny or disparage rights which it is the solemn duty of all citizens and residents of the United States to retain." It described the arguments on the other side as coming from cunning politicians and a mercenary capitalist press, and even silent consent to the conscription law as helping to support an infamous conspiracy. It denied the power to send our citizens away to foreign shores to shoot up the people of other lands, and added that words could not express the condemnation such cold-blooded ruthlessness deserves, &c., winding up "You must do your share to maintain, support and uphold the rights of the people of this country." Of course the document would not have been sent unless it had been intended to have some effect, and we do not see what effect it could be expected to have upon persons subject to the draft except to influence them to obstruct the carrying of it out. The defendants do not deny that the jury might find against them on this point.
But it is said, suppose that that was the tendency of this circular, it is protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. Two of the strongest expressions are said to be quoted respectively from well-known public men. It well may be that the prohibition of laws abridging the freedom of speech is not confined to previous restraints, although to prevent them may have been the main purpose …. We admit that in many places and in ordinary times the defendants in saying all that was said in the circular would have been within their constitutional rights. But the character of every act depends upon the circumstances in which it is done. … The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic. It does not even protect a man from an injunction against uttering words that may have all the effect of force. … The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent. It is a question of proximity and degree. When a nation is at war many things that might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its effort that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight and that no Court could regard them as protected by any constitutional right. It seems to be admitted that if an actual obstruction of the recruiting service were proved, liability for words that produced that effect might be enforced. The statute of 1917 in § 4 punishes conspiracies to obstruct as well as actual obstruction. If the act, (speaking, or circulating a paper,) its tendency and the intent with which it is done are the same, we perceive no ground for saying that success alone warrants making the act a crime. … Indeed that case might be said to dispose of the present contention if the precedent covers all media concludendi. But as the right to free speech was not referred to specially, we have thought fit to add a few words.
boutta boost mia's patreon so she can finally take on dave rubin in the idea thunderdome. 10/10 video
I reflexively scroll down to the comments at the end of videos now, and I keep missing my name in the Patron scroll, lol!
God I hope this boost engagement, this woman deserves more
I'm exercising my free speech rights to boost engagement algorithmically with this precious content. Also, eat the rich
IM SO GLAD I FOUND UR CHANNEL !! I LOVE UR VIDEOS AHHHH THANK U SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT U DO !!
am i crazy or does the audio desync at the beginning of the prager u segment
also truly the slickest of outfits on mia
Attempting to watch this for a second time, hopefully I can get more than 3 minutes in before youtube censors you.
Great video! I almost never comment but I'm feeding the algorithm.
This is an excellent video! I'm really glad it was recommended to me, because I really enjoy how you presented this topic. Immediately subscribed to your channel. Can't wait to see more of your stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I got the feeling that Mia could say a lot more on this topic, (and I look forward to seeing that.)
Really really great work. Some of your best stuff! Keep it up.
Mia has the best videos, and is so intelligent and tall
Great video, as always. Someone tell the algorithm that I just liked + commented
This was a great video, thank you
I enjoyed the drinks video. It was fun guessing which drink you were talking about.
Let's see, do homework or watch hour long Mia Mulder video
welp
"this will warm up my peaches and I'm NOT ok with it."
Iconic
It took me saying that line out loud to get the "free speech"/ "freeze peach" joke
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Somehow that one made me feel... things lol loved it
Cold peaches only
As one of those "tech people who talk about the filter bubble", I've already been talking about this a lot. I am always on the lookout for alternative platforms, but very often, these platforms lean heavily to the right (for example LBRY/Odysee). This is exactly for the reasons you spoke of in this video: The right monopolizes this talking point.
getting a cup of tea 🍵 this’ll be good
WOW I’m early! Love your videos mia I can already tell this is gonna be a great one 💖💖💖
10:43 Jesus christ that scared the hell out of me.
Right?! Was that a lightsaber?
Great work! Algorithmic boost 🎉
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That was really good. I hate the simplified and way people usually talk about this and I'm glad you have a bit of thoughtful strategy towards the end there
Well I know what I'm watching before bed. Thank you Mia!
"No step on snek"
Amazing, love your videos
So I just found yoy in the comments of the Well There's Your Problem you were in and I wanted you to know I loved how much ya laughed in the beginning. Made my fucking day.
you jumpscared me with the js mill quote
15:30 The alignment of the bullets physically hurt me.
I'm happy I found my way to this channel. Thanks for the great content!
Free speech is like democracy. 'Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.' - Churchill
Also you look amazing in that dress. You are killing it.
As always, great video!
(I hope this is one of the good ones)
It is.
This is a fantastic piece: thank you! Thought-provoking ideas, presented with exemplary clarity and structure.
I felt very algorithmically engaged with this video
Its crazy how Mia has only 50k, her videos are so good!
For the LGBT creators, a lot of them talk about more adult stuff and that just got the channel flagged as less ad friendly. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m gay myself and it’s not a case of, “NANCY GET THE GAYS OFF MY TV.” Like I forgot the name of this creator but he was a gay guy and he made really entertaining videos like teaching his parents gay terms and stuff. It’s entertaining yea, but it obviously gonna be less ad friendly and then he claimed he’s being discriminated against. Now I’m happy to have my mind changed on this. So please...
ENGAGEMENT!
love you, Mia
Woah this channel rules! She's like a relatable Contrapoints.
That got meta fast :P P is admirabe to talk so calmy about a heated topic since, well forever.
Theatre and comedy always was political. At least th one with staying power, like shakespeare.
Love this video (and your dress). A+ content 💕
Great video, nice discussion of the filter bubble
another amazing video :) thanks for all you do!
“First to say first” - John Hancock
I am really interested in how TH-cam recommends videos, see when I watch a well research history channel I then get recommended some nonsense about the pyramids being super weapons or something...
Nice video! Though my CC would be that the colour grade on your footage is a little dark to my eyes - if you're using Lumetri Color in Premiere it might just need "Highlights" raised a tad to add some contrast. There's also a really good plug-in called FilmConvert we use at my work but it's a bit of a money-sink. (Sorry for backseat editing - I'm currently procrastinating work lol)
the "U" stands for "Urine (& Feces)"
Urine Speaks Louder Than Words
I really think the point Mia made abt the immense gap between far-right content potential vs that of progressives/leftists is really valuable. Oftentimes, I see criticism of the more prominent "breadtube" ppl framing said TH-camrs as rcih & famous celebrities w no awareness of how radically underfunded even the "successful" breadtubers are in comparison to the billionaire-funded far right propaganda machine.
35:44-36:00 There's actually quite a few organizations to counter balance the likes of Prager U and the Daily Wire, they're just not as prominent. Some which come to mind include 'More Perfect Union,' 'Democracy NOW!', the 'Gravel Institute,' 'Represent US,' 'Second Thought,' Vox (arguably), and many more. And that's not even counting all the individual TH-camrs and more mainstream infotainment shows that permeate the platform as well.
This is one weird ass messed up Timeline I ended up on but at least there are some bright spots that give me hope for the future.
Sincere thanks and gratitude for that Mia.
Very good video !
Yeah, I think that the main problem of the discussion around free speech (or rather, by free speech absolutists) is that it takes free speech as, well, an absolute, disconnected and un-influenceable by anything else that happens in the world, be it irl or online. The reality of ~living in a society~ is that things are more nuanced and we need to think about what we can accept and allow, taking into account all the economical and political power dynamics at play. Which is, indeed, a tough nut to crack.
And then there's the whole other question of what speech is actually capable of achieving, and are people actually willing to engage with the debunking of the misinformation they believe in. Very tough nuts.
I love your content. Leftist Essay Videos are the only thing that keeps my body running during Qurantine + Depression
Pennis Dager got mad and DDos'ed the youtube premiere
Right off the bat and the crooked fireplace is sending me
"iM JaMes MaDIsOn"
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the footballer?
I think that the main problem is the word "freedom". Nowadays at least, that word tends to be very indifferent to power dynamics, with most of its usage referring to giving people in power the freedom to exercise said power however they want, like firing gay employees and whatnot. "Freedom" has become a synonym for deregulation.
What the left wants in regards to free speech isn't to remove consequences for saying certain things, it's to level the playing field, giving marginalised groups an equal voice. It's about giving power to people without power, not deregulating the power that already exists.
Hey love this vid, but the audio synch is off at the start
My manager suppresses free speech by not letting me call out my customers’ idiocy to their faces lol
I was folding laundry while watching this and the lightsaber sfx did a jump scare on me rip