Partially because you can’t do acid skips once you get isma’s tear (it just sucks you into the acid once you get close to the water level), and acid skips are cool :3
It seems like all speedrunners just forget Isma's Tear even exists. You already beat Dung Defender, have Crystal Heart and Mantis Claw, why not get it? It removes any time, health and Soul wasted trying to do tricky acid skips. It also makes Uumuu's fight easier, but that's not much of a selling point.
Well for top any percent runs you don't miss any acid skips and for completion categories you have to get it to finish the run. For achievement speedruns it's so handy though (at least in my experience)
After beating Dung Defender you could just grab Isma's Tear and not deal with acid anymore, but I guess showing that you can do the acid skips is cooler...
"REMINDS ME OF MY OLD NO DAMAGE DAYS" HE SAYS, how long has it been already?? too long. too long, man. really glad to see you're alive and well, youtube decided to bless me by yeeting this on my front page >:D how are the cats? do you still forget your tea until it's cold?? it's been so long since you streamed stuff that i don't even remember any funny references to mention, this is truly the saddest day (also this video was amazing, really liked it!) ((also also, it is i, lunensson, in case you fail to recognize my username without -nsson. this is a very important note to make i know))
3:29 Not quite sure what you’re confused about here, but I think you might’ve just mistaken which part of the floor you were meant to drop down through to get to them.
Technically, you could've gotten crystal dash before Gorb by grinding geo, then you could enter Blue Lake by crystal dashing from the top of the right side of Gruz Mother arena. No shade skip necessary.
Interesting, I had this idea a couple of weeks ago and I decided to try! I did *almost* everything correct, but I had a problem with Hornet Protector and Massive Moss Charger and I was forced to beat Hornet before MMC, cuz I failed to do the tricks to reach MMC without the dash
Couple of issues: Biggest one is you need to beat the bosses first in order to unlock them in the HOG. The only ones I considered doing this for was the Pantheon exclusive bosses e.g Nailmasters. Problem there was you need desolate dive to reach the Godseeker, which requires Soul Master who is a later boss so doesn’t work out.
Yeah that was my plan initially but during recording found that in order to get to the Godseeker, I needed Desolate Dive, which requires Soul Master annoyingly. So ended up changing it.
Def the cool factor..... although the real reason is I forgot about it 😂 Last few challenge runs I haven't been able to use it so it just slipped mind for this one
hmm, for bosses like Oro and Mato, shouldn't you have gone to God Home? (I guess it would've been only important for the first time, otherwise it's jut pointless repetition, buuut... still
I did try initially but ran into issues getting to the Godseeker in the sewers as I needed Desolate Dive, so switched over to visiting them instead of skipping them.
Bro defeated Dung Defender so easely could take the Isma's tear, but that would be too easy for him
Bro said bro
@@lePirateMan Bro said Bro said bro
Keter said Bro said Bro said bro
@@karlneffbro said keter said bro said bro said bro
@@Keterone Bro said Bro said Bro said bro
7:02 bro did the background pogo skip even though he had wings XD
Noone said that you cant do it for fun.
I Always do It anyway too haha
It's the fun part.
Muscle memory
Underrated! P5 orders are really confusing at times.
Actually it’s designed in terms of difficulty so it’s not that confusing (for me at least)
Overrated! P5 orders are really obvious at time.
@@lePirateManwhen I commented this the video had a few hundred views. Also sometimes they make sense and sometimes they dont
@@RyansNotToyReview I was just saying the opposite as a joke
@@lePirateMan oh lmao
5:28 I was so confused when I saw just two white eyes on the black background I was like: "Which boss is this?" and then realized it was collector LOL
Bro's so black people can't see him💀
same thing
Same, I was like "Since when is the shade a boss" 😭
anyone else confused why he didn't get ismas tear after getting crystal dash? It would of made those acid skips a lot easier
It's fun to suffer. Ngl tho I thought the same thing.
Coz he's cool like that.
cringema's tear
Speedrunner brain
Partially because you can’t do acid skips once you get isma’s tear (it just sucks you into the acid once you get close to the water level), and acid skips are cool :3
"Can you beat Hollow Knight in Pantheon 5 Order?"
Me: *starts godseeker save*
It seems like all speedrunners just forget Isma's Tear even exists. You already beat Dung Defender, have Crystal Heart and Mantis Claw, why not get it? It removes any time, health and Soul wasted trying to do tricky acid skips.
It also makes Uumuu's fight easier, but that's not much of a selling point.
Well for top any percent runs you don't miss any acid skips and for completion categories you have to get it to finish the run. For achievement speedruns it's so handy though (at least in my experience)
Now where’s the fun in that?
I’m amused by how the image of the Collector in the corner is just a pair of eyes most of the time
I did try to do a couple of things to make him more visible at first, but in the end just left as found it funnier leaving it as it is
This great video made me forget about the struggles of Silksong, so that’s a plus
Fun fact, Zote will actually never die in deepnest, he just stays tangled up forever if you don't get him, unlike with vengefly king
When I was doing the achievement he died in deepnest
@@Samadiariehow?
@@Samadiarieno he didn’t
Where is he?
Finally, someone actually plays through Hollow Knight in the intended order.
After beating Dung Defender you could just grab Isma's Tear and not deal with acid anymore, but I guess showing that you can do the acid skips is cooler...
I will be honest, once I learned how to do the acid skips I keep using them because it feels so satisfactory to get it right.
1:33
"Hopefully the next one is closer."
dung defender
"Alright then."
Oh my gosh! Look at how polished and well made this video is, and 1.3k views in a whole day! This should be criminal.
Mans spent so much time trying to do acid skips when he coulda just gotten Isma’s already.
This is SUCH a good video! Deserves way more views
"REMINDS ME OF MY OLD NO DAMAGE DAYS" HE SAYS, how long has it been already?? too long. too long, man.
really glad to see you're alive and well, youtube decided to bless me by yeeting this on my front page >:D how are the cats? do you still forget your tea until it's cold?? it's been so long since you streamed stuff that i don't even remember any funny references to mention, this is truly the saddest day
(also this video was amazing, really liked it!)
((also also, it is i, lunensson, in case you fail to recognize my username without -nsson. this is a very important note to make i know))
Been soooooo long haha
Doing good, Cats good. No comment on the cold Teas...
Hope you and all the cats and doggos are doing good also :)
Hollow Knight but you beat the bosses by the amount of times you died to them
9:28 casually beats pantheon 5 in 7 seconds
such a great vid! love the smooth & chill transitions all throughout!
Your editing and writing is so great, keep up the good work
1:23 nice wcs
3:29 Not quite sure what you’re confused about here, but I think you might’ve just mistaken which part of the floor you were meant to drop down through to get to them.
Loved the video keep it up!
Technically, you could've gotten crystal dash before Gorb by grinding geo, then you could enter Blue Lake by crystal dashing from the top of the right side of Gruz Mother arena. No shade skip necessary.
“So we could reach angry hedge” that got me dying on the floor 😂😂😂😂😂
Wait when soul tyrant?
3:56 "Nailed it."
Was that a pun?
😏
Underrated video, you deserve more attention 👍
Interesting, I had this idea a couple of weeks ago and I decided to try!
I did *almost* everything correct, but I had a problem with Hornet Protector and Massive Moss Charger and I was forced to beat Hornet before MMC, cuz I failed to do the tricks to reach MMC without the dash
0:51 ngl i heard "horny" instead of "hornet"
Crying at this 😂😂
Algorithm has blessed me with your content. Insane effort my guy, +1 subscriber
Underrated! Such a well made video.
you are so underrated, you should be getting way more views!
6:15 zote doesn't die in deepnest btw. Only in greenpath
Did not know that just assumed it'd be the same, thanks :)
bro’s too cool to take ismas tear after beating dung
7:31 same thing happened to me, only i lost 7000 geo while saving up for the 15000 unbreakable strength
Didn't skurry do this already? Yeah he did, great video still
They did.
Skurry uses they/them pronouns.
@@Zonic3451they don’t mention it often, so it makes sense
the most confusing part of p5 order is that its different from the other pantheons
I would recommend deep focus and grub song with descending dark in that room
Or desolate dive
These videos help me survive silksong not releasing
I never realized how weird the order in the pantheons is.
Underrated video just subbed
commenting to boost since u deserve it! great vid!
Why is this video so addicting to watch
You actually don't need to do any acid skips to get to marmu you already beat dung defender
You didn’t need to save Bretta - if you don’t let Grey Prince Zote happen in a save file he won’t show up in the Pantheons
But he does show up in p5
@@Oiljackernot if you don’t save him
6:44 HUNTWR X VUNTGR REFERENCE RSHHHHHHH
everybody was kung fu fighting
how did you die to galien 💀💀
3:15 Nice detail hiding one of them
once you get dream nail you could just enter godhome and do the hall of gods in pantheon order lol
Couple of issues:
Biggest one is you need to beat the bosses first in order to unlock them in the HOG.
The only ones I considered doing this for was the Pantheon exclusive bosses e.g Nailmasters. Problem there was you need desolate dive to reach the Godseeker, which requires Soul Master who is a later boss so doesn’t work out.
@@WayOfLoci oh good points
bro did the skip to watchers with double jump
Should have done it on a steel soul file for authenticity.
Actually the mawlek used in the p5 is the one you fight at the colosseum
(3:17) was the thing you were "missing" the obbloble over your heart starting at 3:06?
edit: nvm, i watched the rest of the vid lol
Good spot I think you’re the first who noticed it
Look at masks 3:07
oblittle
Oblmask@@speedyboi88
you can cheese crystal gurdain with the heros odor charm (It does take a while)
3:34 why not get isma's tear because you already killed ogrim and yıu have cdash
remind me why we are doing so many acid skips, if we have acces to ismas?
You should make these Longer❤
Wait why did you do the skip to get to the Collector? Couldn’t you have taken Isma’s Tear after beating the Dung Defender?
Why couldn't you just go for isma's tear after dung defender to make the later acid skips easier?
So tired I read the title as beating the bosses in Persona 5 order
i really want to imagine what that would entail
The fact hollow knight fans found 100+ ways to complete the game and Silksong isnt out yet
Stop rushing them, it's more than double the size of HK.. It is going to be beautiful they'll release it when they're ready
I fr thought they we phantom troupe because i never read any of the text😭😭😭
Does p5 with no problems but struggles on nosk 😭
You already defeated Ogrim plus later on having the CDash. Why not Isma's Tears?
Now thats a challenge i want to try
Cool video; well edited
Why did you keep doing acid skips instead of just getting ismas
Bro is underated
dont you need dive to access dung defender? how did he fight him?
No you can drop down into the Sewers from City of Tears which requires a Simple Key
Hope it’s not just me, but did anyone else Notice that uumuu Came before Nosk?
You didn't need to save zote he doesn't appear in the pantheons if you don't save him
Bruh why didn't you get isma's tear 😭😂
Nice skurry vid bro
not sure how possible this would be but if you got into godhome you could fight oro and mato in proper order
Yeah that was my plan initially but during recording found that in order to get to the Godseeker, I needed Desolate Dive, which requires Soul Master annoyingly. So ended up changing it.
@@WayOfLoci i see, i forgot abt dive, gg for tryin a full route tho
Couldn’t you have gotten isma’s tear to get marmu? You already beat Ogrim at that point so why go for the acid skip? Unless it’s just for cool factor
Def the cool factor..... although the real reason is I forgot about it 😂
Last few challenge runs I haven't been able to use it so it just slipped mind for this one
@@WayOfLoci fair
Wait...don't you have to beat colo 2 to reach god tamer?
Literally could’ve gotten isma’s tear after dung defender but ok
This guy liked being tortured. Deepnest? FIRST? I get that Mantis Lords are your favourite boss tho
Wait is it impossible to 112% hollow knight if you let zote die
theres an achivement if you let zote die so prob not.
why do you need to save zote to fight god tamer?
and also
why do you need to save bretta to fight nosk?
You don't for either, they were just the moments during recording that I remembered them and then went straight away.
@@WayOfLoci ooh yes, thank you
If lost kin was before broken vessel 💀
4:26 *mawlurks
Is it slurry or fireborn who has done it? I can't remember
This was fun
Dung defender?
i lost 7000+ geo in the same place you lost 3000
it happens
Bro deepnest is his favorite place
why didnt you get isma's tear?
Skurry did this
Yeah another comment let me know. I'm actually watching their video right now haha
Did you skip Hornet sentinal?
very tasty video!
0/10 you fought the god himself zote too early
This is impossible cause of sisters of battle winged nosk and other ones and also that oro mato and sheo all don’t fight you outdid of the pantheons
1:16 is confusing how did u get trough gruz mother arena without killing her
He did
A steel soul skip is Cdash to blue lake get dreamnail and unlock kingdoms edge and purple bit of city of tears
hmm, for bosses like Oro and Mato, shouldn't you have gone to God Home? (I guess it would've been only important for the first time, otherwise it's jut pointless repetition, buuut... still
I did try initially but ran into issues getting to the Godseeker in the sewers as I needed Desolate Dive, so switched over to visiting them instead of skipping them.