The World's Only Known Prison For Homosexuals Is Right Here In Australia
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- It's hard to imagine a time when being gay could land men in jail but that was the reality in Australia for many years. In fact, Australia is home to what is thought to have been the world's only prison for homosexuals.
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No matter the violence and hatred I survived coming out in the 70s, I am grateful that I wasn't born one generation earlier !
What that guy said at the very end about “it’s up to the broader community to decide whether we should say sorry” is so wrong. Yes, we have to make the choice to say sorry, but ultimately it’s up to whoever was harmed and persecuted to determine when an apology is necessary, because they are the ones who actually went through it. You were wrong, just apologize.
His sentiment is correct, he is asking for collective thought, for all to think about these things and not just the parties that are directly injured.
@@ThankYouAndHelloHis sentiment is wrong. It rests the power of determining fault in the representatives of groups on whose behalf these objective human rights violations were perpetrated.
They weren't wrong. Nothing to apologize for.
If anything, the prisoners should apologize to the normal public who had to deal with their disorderly conduct.
😂@@Guiltypleasure98
Wow! I have no words for how awful this is.
How can something so natural be illegal that I don't understand that
It's not natural sticking Peter in bum.
Blame religion.
@@kakashisensei9258 I sure do love
@@kakashisensei9258 Religion is one of the worst things to happen to the human race, in my humble opinion.
There are many things which are "natural" for humans. What is difficult is determining which things should be accepted and supported and which we can conciously change if they cause us unecessary sufferring.
an appology will NEVER give back the time we lost hiding.
Or the ones who eneded their own lives. I know a few of them in my long life.
so, what should they do?
@@vazefiluca3298They should accept their societal guilt and deal with the shame.
@@GothosRedux This will not give back the time we lost hiding. Will it?
@@vazefiluca3298 No, but that’s not my point.
It disgusts me as an Australian that this happened in our history.
It happened everywhere, there were torture in the UK, US too. You aussies are generally nice and friendly people, don't beat yourself and your country up over it.
edit: typo
wait until y hear about what they did to the natives.
@xx133 I'm aware of that very sad history as well.
Then you'd be disgusted even more if you were African
We dont need to reflect. The majority of Australians know this was wrong. Just say sorry.
We can at least research
No apologies. Justice. Punishment. Compensation.
Well, during Franco dictatorship in Spain we had the penitentiary of Tefia for "re-education of homosexuals"
Devastating, sigh.
We need a whole series of videos to cover Franco"s excesses over half a century or so.
Then people have the audacity to say “why do we have pride month” yeah… this is why
I would like to know the reason why homosexuality was considered to be a “menace.”
…or perhaps if the people who considered it to be a menace even knew why.
Someone forced parts of the Bible onto the general public, especially the scriptures pertaining to the "negativity" of homosexuality.
@@user-dj7wv5ok2x Ah yes, the “enlightenment” of religion!
That way of thinking would have been very persuasive here in Ireland around the same time and even later into the 1980s...and the primary reason for that was that the Catholic Church has a very strong hold on Irish society and was indeed part of every social institution within Ireland as well...and what's more you didn't ever dare challenge the church or it's teachings in Ireland for fear of negative consequences...thankfully following the expose of a series of scandals from within the church which rocked Irish society, the way of thinking towards homosexuality has changed significantly...but there's still those out there who believe it to be a "menace" and typically because they view homosexuality as something which "destabilises" society...
@@user-dj7wv5ok2xzero mention of it actually except the one people quote which actually is God telling the man to kiss his enemies on the mouth and embrace them fully says gos to Arron and moses
"...considered to be a'menace'"
Simply because it IS a POTENTIAL menace..if SODOMY is practised, it's a deadly menace.
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The last thing said was "we are who we are, thats all there is to it'. That is true if you live in Australia, America, Africa, Thailand or outer space, We Are Who We Are!! Love from Milwaukee, Wisconsin USA 🇺🇲 🏳️🌈 🤗
Horrifying.
Ok Karen.
I’m apart of the LGBTQ+ community, and I’m planning on moving to Australia for college, so I’m doin some history, so thanks for the video, this isn’t spoken enough about.
Worry about spiders and snakes not homophobes lmao
@@justicethedoggo3648 definitely. Australia is very liberal. (Maybe too much so)💀, but it’s always important to see the history too
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1Australia is not as evolving as you seem to think it’s still a very ignorant and conservative country the racism, sexism and homophobia here is horrible
Wonder why🤔?.
@@audhumbla6927why? I’m just thinking to move there
were the prisoners who were used in experiments compensated by the government for this injustice is what i want to know?
Are you joking? 😂 its the Australian government, they dont care about human rights.
I think straight people are just afraid of how fabulous we are. We've been around since the beginning, and we are not going anywhere.
I don't know about that.
The so called straight have a problem no us
..ok
No we just disgusted
@@chuchu7710I’m just disgusted with Straights and their pedophilia
But yeah nice try
But, what is "offensive behaviour"?
Code word for against my religious beliefs
Just look at the actions of the Cult of woke.
It’s not how I was born so it’s wrong and therefore offensive.
Juan: Offensive behavior is almost always defined in law as behavior that offends the people in power. After all, the can make and alter the laws. The people in power then convince a large percentage of the general public that said behavior is offensive without giving the other side a chance to rebut the argument, or even to come out of the closet, as it were, to try to rebut the argument. Remember, the system is set up and being controlled by those already in power. Why on earth the rest of the populace listen to them or to a particularly charismatic leader just because he (how often is it a "she") seems convinced of the argument he's selling?
Time to focus on the product, not the salesman, when thinking about ideology, social mores, or which mayonnaise to buy.
@@pattisonpattison3639you mentally ill?
Wow, this is absolutely horrific that this is a part of our history. We've pathologized queer people and now we're doing the same to transgender people. It's such a sad state of affairs. I wish the queer & trans community nothing but the healing they so well deserve! 🥰🏳🌈
Me too!!!!
It’s amazing how far we’ve come since the the 1950’s. From being imprisoned for being homosexual to same sex marriage being legalised. We still have a bit to go but our social evolution is continuing to evolve ❤️
Never will I understand homophobia. How does me fooling around with another guy affect anybody else in any shape or form?
You should not wait for the population at large to reflect and be ready to just say sorry, which isn't enough. You also need to make amends when the minority that the government oppressed needs to be recompensed, which is now if not sooner.
here's the thing, saying sorry won't fix what happened.
@@EggiTheNoob And worse some things can never be fixed or recompensed. ☹️
And then people criticize Pride and wonder why it’s so big nowadays…. THIS IS WHY
I am grateful that I wasn't born one generation earlier.
Hello jay
‘Sorry’ isn’t good enough!
This is like Nazi Germany.
Was, it's history...
@@vivianidelacerda9708 It's actually still like that in todays Russia.
@@missourigreen051 And Iran.
Shame on you Australia,
🌈 🏳️🌈 🌈 🏳️🌈 🌈 🏳️🌈 🌈 🏳️🌈 🌈
It was illegal in UK as well at one time
😂😂 good job for making jail for them
So sad, to be tortured for just being the way you’re born.
Classic Australia, authoritarian government response to every perceived problem. The only thing that has changed is what the current social hysteria that guides them is. Our government is simply too large.
Are you saying the Australian government's response to COVID was authoritarian?
@@xxSilliestGoose yup
@@xxSilliestGoosedefinitely we were in lockdown for a whole year bro and our cases were nowhere as bad as other countries. $5000 fines for being out with more then 2 people. Etc etc
@@DDM_08The fines are too much 💀
Gah Australia really has a history of Systematic Discrimination. It's the Systematic part which is far more shocking. The way it was conducted with administrative and "academic" organization is the worrying part to me. It's the falling in line with what the system says you need to do.
So does the USA!
Thanks for reporting on this
A lot of people must be compensated. At fault is not only the police. Government, media and church are two faced.
It's for the larger society to determine if people that are doing no harm and have been harmed by larger society, deserve an apology? Seriously? What a load of bollocks!
We gays have been subject to all kinds of experimentation throughout the decades, unfortunately. We are natural, though. It's evident cause we dont all birth into one area but all around the world, throughout all human history.
Not natural.
@@Dmitis-nk7xi I exist, so I must be pretty natural lol
But It seems kinda cool of an idea to be unnatural. So, I won't argue with you.
@@PsychologicalApparition but your sexuality is not natural.
This is why Pride is so important. To remind us of a dark, unjust past that must NEVER be repeated.
No. Go to jail and make prides if you want.
You’re either a really horrible person or a bot.
The male presenter "chiming in" at the end was just WEIRD!
How atrocious. The state need to compensate the people who had to endure this.
I hope Australia rescinds all criminal records so the gentlemen have a clean record (e.g., dismisses all charges and removes the arrest records, too). They should also get an apology and financial remuneration for this treatment.
There’s a difference between an apology and making amends. An apology is words. Making amends is following through and putting action to those words.
So painful
Thank you for the truth!!!
There were prisons for homosexuals in Cuba as well.
Thats scary
Brb going to get arrested in Australia
Where's my money b-awwich'
Probably the cleanest prisons in the world!
This world is lucky the lgbtq still wants peace and not revenge.
and in what shape would revenge take?
Read a bio titled 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within' and learn more on this subject and the dreadful sufferings it has caused in Australia's history.
Thank you!
Why are the perpetrators of these crimes still running around free? Why have they not been arrested, put on trial, and punished. Don’t want apologies. Justice.
Me when sarcasm
There has been one in Brazil for a few years, in a city close to Belo Horizonte, State of Minas Gerais
Awesome
Hope Lula fixes it before he gets arrested like all the others 😭, I’m laughing but dying on the inside too.
re-open it !
@@FerrisJamesonr u homeless?
Check your sources. Homosexuality was decriminalized in Brazil in 1824.
Amazing how humanity can't nuance what we call an "offense". A show-off of ego's power inside our minds/hearts/temperaments and how we tacitly submit to, as if for dignity.
accept apologies only in cash
Really CHILLING.
Australia should stop talking about human rights. It's so shameful
❤ being in the medical field since mid seventies and learning about the things we did in the name of science, it's still very appalling
You're sorry? Are you?
This isn’t gonna stop me from going to Australia. Definitely want to visit.
They're not kind to tourists
@@theomartin7339 I’m aware.
Wow. Turn down the unnecessary music. It would be nice to hear what’s being said !!
Australia was a very conservative country during 1950s.
Absolutely sickening, where is the compensation! Is this group less than any other!
Sam smiths song "Him" is about the judgment he felt in Australia
They should alter the word 'Homophobia' Phobia means irrational Fear.I don't do,say anything that's scary.😮❤❤
But here's the great thing: Australia is a wonderful society that reversed this evil and educated the public that it was wrong. Don't see much of the, shall we say, poor and oppressed world doing any of that.
And about lesbians?
Woman could kinda just be “good friends” who’s husbands both died by tragic accidents and now live together in the forest
Australian 😂🥴🤠🗣️, 😂🗣️☝️👆 I know days.
It's time to say sorry, I'm sorry lol
When we celebrate Pride we stand on the shoulders of all our brothers and sisters that had to endure the worst of humanity.
Ga day sports!!! hope you all having fun down under!! ooh woops 😂😂
It is the victimised groups who should decide whether an apology is appropriate and the broader community to reflect on why that is appropriate.
Very shameful part of our history. I'm grateful to be living today and a huge debt is owed to the men who went through this treatment back then. 😢
I'm just here to jot down some good ideas.🎉
not my country?!?! 😮
Yes ur bloody country lol
We are told aliens would invade us and torture us, but at the end of the day... we judged ourselves very much! We, as the most intelligent species on this planet, we turn ourselves against each other... welcome to the 🤡 planet!
If the current LNP government with it's religious leader, and the Australian Christian lobby had their way , they would criminalize homosexualty again.
Good thing the Islamic council backs lgbt stuff 100% then
@@thorium3737 Do they ? . How do you know that.
What a load of garbage
@@kingdomfor1 yeah, the Islamic council is only paying back the good activists that supported them, so they support socialism, abortion, lgbt and athiesm being promoted. Isn't it grand?
Nothing makes otherwise sane, moral people do atrocious and horrific things like religion.
Hey, there’s no closed captions!!
Brilliant and inspiring story. Thank you so much for accepting and trying to understand us. GOD bless! ✨
Jesus’s sexuality was fluid. It’s so obvious if you believe the story.
1:18
I think a lot of us refer to those kinds of things as "Lovecraftian horror" 😉💙
This is so messed up. I hope they were in trouble for it. It's the straighties 180's! They should be locked up not the queer community. I hope it never happens again!
Spain had two jails for hmosexuals: Badajoz and Huelva
And this is why Spain isnt first world ☺️
@@Stempy-channelbut Russia is.
@@Dmitis-nk7xi And its known globally that it's government is VERY oppressive and restrictive. Russia is a bad country. Everyone knows that.
As one of the LGBTIQ comunitária here in Brazil, I feel so sorry for our felloe LGBTIQ in Australia.😢Thank you so much for this most importante report.
You could tell the blonde broadcaster is totally cool with homosexuality being illegal
It's amazing how Australia and the United States have so many parallels in myriad ways.
for me some of the issues are about ignorance (which does NOT excuse what was done) but makes sense to me, in terms of what they knew back then.
Hummmm I don’t think this is a good thing at all!
It’s not. Humans are humans regardless of their attraction
Homosexuality used to be viewed the way our times views pedophilia, which the law in Australia still defines as sex with anyone under the age of eighteen. Every society has to have someone to scapegoat. In the past they used to scapegoat homosexuals. Now we scapegoat the scapegoaters of the past. Seems kinda hypocritical to me ... being intolerant of the intolerant.
Were just human period
I'm straight and thru my 50 years of life If anyone was in danger, I'm there to help no matter because
How would I know if your this or that I'm just trying to help a fellow person That's it
There is few here in the ukadian island that require a place there, because our prisons have them aswell, Dr grossman has spelled out the same reasons.
Why no subtitles for the deaf?
0:27
I'm just like ....
Where are you ranking things?
What other menaces did you consider that you believed were *less* of a "menace" than "homosexuality"?
And while I ... don't exactly believe there's an answer to that question, I'm interested in hearing the response anyone might have for that 💙
What punishable offenses .... are less of a menace .... than "homosexuality"?
but also the first part of that question can have different qualifiers, if you like
"What crimes against fellow humans"
"Which affronts to continued life on this planet"
"What impediments to the welfare of citizens"
And if anyone wants to put "beliefs" in the first part of that, I'll tell you about some beliefs:
I believe we need to stop finding excuses to hate each other 💙
and I believe we need to start recognizing where we thought we could relax, because we thought we found the right target; and it allowed us to be hateful to the wrong people 💙
Truly sickening and something that would return when particular parties and religions have power
Australia was a penal colony for England. All those uncouth people, prisoners, undesirable genes, cultists. That is where England sent them to. Australia. Even today people from England look at Australians with a jaundice eye. If you thought English looked at the Irish poorly just times that by 10 and that's how they view the Australians.
Until mankind realizes and accept heir total ignorance, such unacceptable atrocities will go on happening. Unless you know and understand EVERYTHING , you can not judge !
Their sorry to Aborigines hasn't had much effects on them. Their policy and attitudes speaks better than their sorries.
Imagine what went on in this place
And still no captions .. jeezzz
They should have this in the us
Nice channel
I never expected Aussie could be so bad !!
Next time don't have that bloody music on your podcast. It's so distracting and annoying.
Soap. Dropping. Everywhere.