Why I Think Firefly and Sam Are Not The Same!!! - Honkai Star Rail!!!

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  • I've heard a lot of people theorized that cuz Firefly has a feeble and frail body she pilots Sam from the inside or that she is closely related to Sam, I DISAGREE!!! I think IF!!! There's a connection it's because she's a descendant of Titania BUT!!! WE SHALL SEE!!!
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    Hope this ages like fine wine, lol
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  • @saltykanchou2717
    @saltykanchou2717 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    This video didn't age well

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I know I will make another video about it after streaming the new patch. I just hope the way they tackle her fighting system is great

  • @alfonsuskristo1624
    @alfonsuskristo1624 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I think the one who betrayed her is the other Galaxy Ranger, Boothill. A cyborg, a lad, silver hair, silver armour. Can't wait for 2.1 to get the next clues for the story though.

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They released him the day after I posted this video and instantly noticed that too. But!!! Fire fly mentioned "Mech" and if I can remember while following her fragments we also find burnt mobs too. That is certainly an interesting theory though. I can't wait too, I wish they'd just bamboozled us and revel that the instead of Boothill we're gonna get Firefly instead

    • @mari_zz
      @mari_zz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Boothill is a cyborg, not a mecha. Firefly said "Mecha", not cyborg.

    • @kyo-wm3wb
      @kyo-wm3wb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ⁠@@mari_zzyeah, that's what sold me on the Samfly theory- the only time Sam's been referred to as a mecha other than by Firefly was in the story of Glamoth (Sam's homeworld) which you can find on the planar set
      That and firefly's illness has ties to Glamoth which makes it seem like she was also from Glamoth

  • @umbralflow6883
    @umbralflow6883 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Her illness make her pretty limited in mobility, So my guess is the mech suit help her do that. The only reason we see her walking around is that she is in a dream. We have that connecting moment when she takes us to her favorite spot with the shooting stars. Sam ult is a falling star. She mentions a fiery landscape. When we fight Sam he sets the area on fire. A lot of thing are linking the 2 characters. Robin has already been shown in drip marketing and we know she "die" in the dream realm like Firefly did hinting that both are probably alive.

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I know it all happened in the dreamscape and it's would connect them if she can access enacony outside the planet of festivities. She claims it's her favorite spot but how??? If she was Sam doing missions for the Hunters around the galaxy. Even if she does live in Penacony and could control Sam from a far that's only hell of a connection, WIFI working double XD. They are alive.

    • @umbralflow6883
      @umbralflow6883 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NEEKUNIT4913 I think its a more power ranger type of thing. Thats true that she would have to be in penaconly for quite a bit to eve have a favorite spot so you got me there. Maybe the mech has an AI she talks to.

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@umbralflow6883 maybe but as far as I know about Sam is that he was a former iron cavalry night, which were warriors psychologically controlled by Titania the ruler of Glam when it was still planet

    • @Sev3nn20
      @Sev3nn20 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@NEEKUNIT4913You're spot on with what I think. Firefly isn't S.A.M like people keep trying to say. Firefly is either Titania or she's a descendant of her and she's Partners with S.A.M as he's a Silver Armored Mecha, the proof is in the 2.0 Trailer you can see S.A.M fighting differently against Acheron using Green Wings, I believe that's Firefly in control and when we Fight S.A.M it's just Red Flames, that's S.A.M in control

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sev3nn20 Yes and with FF out of the Dreamspece SAM has control

  • @AdrianArmbruster
    @AdrianArmbruster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've thought of the possible Titania connection before. It would make for a cool dynamic while also leaving Sam and Firefly as two separate 'entities'
    If getting run through by the death meme really does result in 'spiritual death' then one assumes Firefly would be incapacitated at least for a bit, and then the Sam we see would necessarily be able to act independently of her, not just as a suit of armor.
    Basically, Sam has a cool English dub voice, and I'd hate for it to just be a filter over Firefly's voice. I hope Sam at least has his own personality.

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, and would hate another Clara situation. I love Clara, but just like Numby, Svarog does everything. I’d love that theory too

  • @JoshuaFlores-rb2rb
    @JoshuaFlores-rb2rb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another thing the stellaron hunters know who the trailblazer is and some say that sam Do not scan the trailblazer because sam was firefly but the hunters know who we are

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yea, that's another thing. The TB has an unknown history with the SH so it would only make sense that Sam would already know about TB

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And if she were really him then she would have already known about the mc when we met her and Gallagher the first time. But if i remember correctly then she didn't really knew anything about the mc.

  • @juju7462
    @juju7462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Spoiler 2.1: They are the same person

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I saw, unfortunately spoilers are hard to avoid specially when things come out in my sleep 🤣🤣🤣

  • @heenthousiast383
    @heenthousiast383 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    contains leaks:
    i got bad news, she is SAM 💀

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Send link or cap!!! With Boothill being a thing now apparently, FF and Sam being the same makes little more sense. BUT!!! I'm still skeptical about it

    • @LilmizK
      @LilmizK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NEEKUNIT4913leaks. You can search them up if you want. We have the kit, model, and class/element leaked.

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NEEKUNIT4913 There is literally nothing that would prove her being a man other than "but the colour scheme!!!". But then Aventurine and MC is the same person as well because they have a few similar colours. XD

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tovarishcheleonora8542 There's actually a part of the video where I mock people who thought that way but I cut it off XD

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NEEKUNIT4913 That was really a "missing out on the chance" thing then. 😆

  • @zulchemical
    @zulchemical 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dont care if they are the same person BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A MECH RUNNING AROUND than another human.

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yea but it seems to be a massive waste if they are a waste, you have 2 well developed characters and making them the same break the deal for me

    • @zulchemical
      @zulchemical 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NEEKUNIT4913 i see your point. Rather than ppl squabbling who is who, they might as well make two character so everyone can enjoy.

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zulchemical it just makes sense to me cuz... more money for them XD

    • @zulchemical
      @zulchemical หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NEEKUNIT4913 welp looks like they are the same person.

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zulchemical Yea, I'm making a video about as we speak XD

  • @AzureRuby96
    @AzureRuby96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I respect that you said it straight that you may be wrong. The other guy didn't...

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ehh??? Which other guy??? I mean the way Shaoji writes the stories are highly unexpected. Like in Honkai Impact 3rd, the 13 Flame Chasers were the ones fighting against Honkai just for one of them to turn out to be a Herrscher (basically god), a power given by the Will of Honkai. No one can really tell what goes around the mind of Shaoji and how fucked up the stories he writes will turn out.

  • @venth85
    @venth85 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Then after Patch 2.1... welp~ :)) while there're many signs showing Firefly is SAM during 2.0 event. Those who didnt believe got tricked by ELIO, as part of their scenario to threw Black Swan Memokeeper off who was looking into Firefly/ SAM.

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea, personally I just think it didn't make much sense since Glamoth was ages ago (not sure how long) and to be a remnant of it while FF looking like she hasn't age after a certain age seemed farfetched to me. Also, is felt like they kept rubbing it in that they are the same, maybe I read into it too much XD. Honestly, it kinda ruined Sam for me but that'll be on the next video ^_^

  • @just4universe219
    @just4universe219 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think Sam has it's own consciousness, something like Jarvis, while FireFly works together with Sam to make them more... complete as a unit/fighter. Regardless, they are inhabiting the same space (sam's armor/suit) but they have two different minds and motivations.

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sam was a former Iron Cavalry Knight which are modified warriors, I’m not sure if they were warriors as in human warriors or were just called warriors for some reason but a long time ago Titania the ruler of Glamoth used to control them psychologically.

  • @kunaldewangan2876
    @kunaldewangan2876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Debunked

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right??? The next video will be about it 🤣🤣🤣

  • @noahmehringer29
    @noahmehringer29 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My theory is that Firefly is the Pilot(dormant and dreaming due to her condition) and Sam is the AI piloting them. Sam’s betrayal was trapping her in a room (possibly to protect her while he hunted the dream entity) and we see that after her death he seemed to go on something of a rampage during the Trailblazer’s investigation.

  • @Blood-Moon-Pack
    @Blood-Moon-Pack หลายเดือนก่อน

    And this is how this video was proven wrong 😂

  • @taigashizuma3556
    @taigashizuma3556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if boothill is sam?

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Noh, Sam was from Glamoth and a former Iron Cavalry Knights that existed ages ago. If he was wearing the armor maybe

  • @humbertolopezdimitri2593
    @humbertolopezdimitri2593 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If it can help your arguement, people claimed at first that Sam was a female because of some translation that happened in other languages to prove that they were the same, but that was proven wrong since it was a mistranslation. So they can't use that arguement. Plus, they sound like two different voice actors, so yeah

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another thing is, sure aging makes 0 sense in HSR since Zaofu exist and it could also exist in other planets but age difference could also play a massive role. IF I can remember right Sam is from Glamoth what was destroyed by the Swarm ages ago to the point barely anyone remembers about it. We're not sure how long Sam has been a Stellaron hunter but I'd say quite a while now. Since Firefly was referred to as a "young" girl, the gap would make just a child when or IF Sam did join the SH

  • @1_DMAY
    @1_DMAY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've heard people theorize that the reason Sam abandoned Firefly is because he wanted to remove Firefly from the situation so he could act freely from her, but i don't really think that's the case, in my opinion why Sam abandoned Firefly is because he wanted to ensure her her safety ESPECIALLY from the Death Meme, because we don't know if Firefly somehow can enter Sam's armor inside the Penacony/dreamscape and another piece of potential evidence for my theory is that if you spend enough time with someone you'll eventually grow to care for that person and especially if you fought LITERAL WARS with with echother and I know we are talking about the STELERON HUNTERS intergalactic criminals but they still have hearts
    And an additional theory/fanfic of mine is that when Firefly and Sam are in specific situations where they need to be more calculated and smart with things, Firefly will aid when she can, but that is very rare because your enemy can't think when they are reduced to burning ashes

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting, it would be cool to look at the situation that Sam cares for her BUT!!! It was cuz Sam abandoned her that lead to her death in the Dreamscape

    • @1_DMAY
      @1_DMAY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @NEEKUNIT4913 I'd like to hear your perspective/theory on the relationship between Firefly and Sam

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@1_DMAY see what I’m thinking is, they could have possibly just been random people who by fate met each other and made a deal because they could gain some thing from each other but one eventually betrayed the other. (If I can remember Ellio was talking about some sacrifice or something). One other Theory that I came up with was that Firefly could be a long descendent of Titania, the former ruler of Glamoth (Sam’s old planet), who could only barely control Sam since overtime and telepathic power to control the iron Calvary knight (Sam) have been diminished so Sam wanted to be free from her. There’s a lot of directions the story could and I’m really excited for patch 2.1. I’m also have been working on another video to hopefully should be out soon.

    • @1_DMAY
      @1_DMAY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @NEEKUNIT4913 I can imagine Sam betraying betraying Firefly because she was a decendant from queen Tatania and he wanted to break free from her grasp, as prof in one of blade's old voice lines he said "I yearn for death, but Sam yearns for life", and I can assume that Sam doesn't particularly have a high opinion of Firefly because she is a decendant of a ruler that made you, your brothers and sisters fight and die, no questions asked for a mere echo of a civilization; and this adds a whole new layer if depth to these two's story because nobody is in the right, Sam and the Iron calvery was created to fight and protect the people of his home planet from THE SWARM a planet ending threat, yes they were successful, but it was to late and their home/kingdom succumbed and died

    • @1_DMAY
      @1_DMAY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @NEEKUNIT4913 I hope we can somehow help these two without hurting one or the other because both of them are really intriguing and good characters, + both of them are hot :|👍

  • @macarious5662
    @macarious5662 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nah you are still right bud Heh Sam is a guy not a girl lol which is confirmed by Kafka and Blade. They are connected. It’s all Elo’s plan!

  • @apachers2807
    @apachers2807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I disagree. The 2.0 trailer itself hints at Firefly being Sam, especially with the Acheron Vs Sam scene where Sam has firefly-like wings which we haven't seen yet in-game. As well as the transition scene from Firefly to Sam. German translation also calls Sam a Stellaron Hunteress because professions are separated by gender in German. Also Sam = *Sam* -us. Sam is like a metroid reference lol

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True true but we've seen multiple times that just cuz they share the same color scheme don't make them the same. Seele and Achreon, Himeko and Argenti, or Dan Heng and Imbibitor (that one is a joke XD). If the video ages bad then I could admit to that but with how they advertised this patch, is the mystery of the Family the only mystery to uncover, Sam was invited to Penacony and while FF does admit she was a "stowaway" she also got an invite that was separate from Sam's, so the Family is well aware of her existence as a staff member. While Boothill came from nowhere.

  • @goofsphere1
    @goofsphere1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “How can I be different today”

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ???

    • @Yore-Nemesis
      @Yore-Nemesis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@NEEKUNIT4913 He is calling you contrarian. Which you are not

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yore-Nemesis Ahh I see I see, sorry I'm a bit of an aloof type of person over text since you can't really express emotions through them. In regards to that comment, I'm not trying to be different. Like I said, personally I just felt like it was too obvious, like they were trying to stab you with a knife but tells you about it before doing anything. Weird analogy but it's the best I could come up with on the spot XD

  • @ricolee7728
    @ricolee7728 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I hope they are not the same, I rather pull Firefly than a mecha honestly

    • @johnhalo-ug4go
      @johnhalo-ug4go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      im on the team "rather pull the mecha than firefly" but we're on the same team with they're not the same character.

    • @alfonsuskristo1624
      @alfonsuskristo1624 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why not pull one get both guys?

    • @twothreeoneoneseventwoonefour5
      @twothreeoneoneseventwoonefour5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alfonsuskristo1624 yeah imagine it is firefly in normal form, and then she changes to "attack mode" and becomes a mecha using the burst. Like in those kids shows or like in Iron Man lol.

    • @johnhalo-ug4go
      @johnhalo-ug4go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alfonsuskristo1624 I do not want another repeat of Clara for god sakes. she doesn't even do shit just stands there being a pain in the ass for svarog. If they make the same kit for SAM too i'll sell my acc and quite gacha games all together.

    • @user-on5cr4kv9x
      @user-on5cr4kv9x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnhalo-ug4go What do you mean with the "same kit" though? Transformation ult sounds closer to destruction Trailblazer (They get it for 1 attack) or Jingliu (her Spectral transmigration), while Clara buffs 2 of her follow-ups

  • @jeffff776
    @jeffff776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think the earth is flat and not round.
    facts doesn't care what you think. facts are facts.

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ???

    • @johnhalo-ug4go
      @johnhalo-ug4go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Firefly being SAM isn't a fact yet tho?

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnhalo-ug4go no not yet and I haven’t watched the stream updates yet either so I wouldn’t know. 2.1 will be Achereon and Adven, 2.2 is now confirmed to be Robin and Boothill. As for 2.3 it’s now speculated to be either Sam and firefily or Sam and Screwllum. Regardless they will make Firefly a playable character or it’s a mad waste of potential. Things is would they really stretch is that far when Loufu had at least 3-4 patches.

  • @KXRTT---
    @KXRTT--- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    what's your discord ill send you evidence that they are the same

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, thank you ^_^" I'm not ready to give any of my contacts yet, even if it's only DC. Feel free to express the key point on the comment section though!!!

    • @KXRTT---
      @KXRTT--- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NEEKUNIT4913 its leaks of story & kit details confirming they are the same

    • @NEEKUNIT4913
      @NEEKUNIT4913  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KXRTT--- Haven't seen one yet. Plus every leaks are subjected to change