I believe that was the first video I of yours that I watched!! I worked for years as an artist, but stopped about 15 years ago and haven't really done anything in all that time. Something clicked in my head (heart?) recently and I've dove back into drawing/painting/etc. I'd never really done much with color pencils, which is how I ended up finding your video. "Sadly" now I am coming to understand why people have so many types and sets!! (I catch myself seeing a set in the store and wondering what they look/feel like and tell myself I do not 'need' more).
This was terrific for how the pencils I have perform on different papers. Thanks for doing such massive research. I am struggling with using colored pencil over the top of ink in my Neurographica drawings. colored pencil paper is THE WORST. Even the copic multiliner ink drags out into my beautiful pastel colors and turns them gray. In this drawing technique, being able to color over the inking lines is ESSENTIAL. I love the method, but the ink smear is the madness. HELP! lol
Great comparison! If they sell the canson xl papers in your country their xl pastel paper is identical to the Mi-Tintes. I only found it once here but it worked great.
The Canson website says the XL range are “not available in Australia”- but I did manage to get some other papers that were aimed at a U.S. audience so I’m sure there would be a way! I don’t think I need any new paper for a while here personally 😂 - but it’s a great note for anyone reading! I’m definitely excited to use the Mi-Teintes, the 500 Bristol and the Stonehenge for some actual drawing soon!
Canson is what we use mostly both for drawing and watercolors, and makers, paintmarkers and acrylic paint works great on most of the high quality stuff they do, it is expenciv though or at least the once we use are, its a pad of 20 A4 pages and its 50 euros, so with shipping to Australia its probely super expenciv. But great video, my local art store is very on top of the best quality stuff on the maked and go out of there way to stock everything they can of the top quality stuff, so they sell most of the high end paprr brands in you video pluss a buch more that possible to get here in europe
I've said this for years. I would gladly spend $40 on a coloring book that was printed on and intended for a specific medium or mixture. Marketed that way for example "Intended for marker base with pencil finish work" and labeled specifically such as Bristol Smooth with weight and all. Such a needed product in the coloring industry. Please Sarah, partner with Kerby and make this product! You're wonderful btw. Oh and ask him not to add so much shading.
Yes, when I find a “water coloring book” it has amazing paper and thickness. I wish all coloring pages were printed on that paper so no matter what medium you use it can take it
I can completely understand. I have sets of profesional pencils but it doesn't give them the full justice of what they can actually do if you do not use them on quality paper. The quality of paper is just as important as the quality of the pencils. Such a shame whem you get beautiful pictures in colouring books only to find that they are printed on standard printer paper. I'm really struggling to find a printer that is a multifunctional laser printer that will print on 300 gsm artist paper. If you have any ideas of what printers are capable I would really appreciate if you could let me know. What printer do you use. The exact Model and type.
@@Fallen5321 been checking a bit, Chatgpt mentioned Hp/Canon/Epson laser printer can take 300/220/256 gsm. However HP site mentioned only inkjet can take 300 while laser jet 200. (reference google HP Paper compatibility for HP inkjet and LaserJet printers)
@@Fallen5321I have a printer from Epson. It is especially produced for printing photos but I don’t print photos for a family album ;-) That also means this printer can print images in the most incredible colours and is very sharp with printing. I’ve tested the paper it could handle. This printer printed a coloringpage on 270gsm (strathmore 300-Bristol vellum). It worked well. I must say that I could hear the printer was going to it’s ‘max’. The 250gsm went very easy and smooth. The 270gsm took him a bit more power.
Wow, I just finished my second year of college studying Art and Design, and this is incredibly helpful. I felt always so confused on which paper to use, since I work with a wide range of different mediums. Thank you for your hard work x
This is the best video I've seen on paper so far -- I love how many of these you tried and how in depth you went on the differences and pros and cons, including printing. I've never seen anyone talk about printing on these papers and it's good to know there are card stocks out there that work well for pencils!
There's also the option of printing your page out onto some cheap printer paper and use a light box to trace the lines on your thicker paper and with whatever pen/pencil you want!
I'm glad you included the stonehedge paper. I have heard great things. I would only use it for fine art pieces per the cost. Neena bristol vellum is the cardstock papercrafters use for their copic coloring besides the xpressit. Tfs
I bought Neenah Chardstock a few years ago from the Create & Craft channel. Brilliant for printing and markers, and I also found that my WH Smith Spectrum Sings pencils laid down so smoothly on the card.
It hasn't been too long since I discovered your channel and I'm so glad I did. I really appreciate how thoroughly you research and share your product results. But even more, I love the way you present yourself, especially on the pencil coloring videos. You're an incredible artist and a wonderful teacher. I get a kick out of your accent and sense of humor too. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for this. I have stayed away from pdf coloring pages because I just didn't know what paper to buy. Now I know and will go with the Neenah it sounds like a good place to start. Appreciate you taking the time to help us all out. Now that I will have decent papers, I would like to suggest (and sorry if you have done this), but have a color-along with your color pages. Maybe have one monthly where you put one of your pages on sale for that month (or with one like the donut one, I really like that one, yum!), share a color palette/swatch, and let us color along with you. I am looking forward to purchasing and using your color catalog and color theory, oh, and the Easy Floral Doodling, that one looks like a lot of fun.
This is a great comparison, thanks for all the hard work! Kirsty Partridge said she uses the cold press watercolor paper when she is going to blend with Zest-it (or mineral spirits/gamsol etc.). 2nd - I think you said you would wait until 100,000 subscribers to buy the full-set of Polycrhomos - I think it's NOT cheating to buy a smaller set - maybe 36 or 48! Just a thought!
Great Video I've been trying different paper for coloring. So many coloring books have poor quality paper. So I copy them on better paper. Its a work in progress. Thanks so much for the information. I've saved this video to reference future paper purchase. !!
In my personal opinion and experience, paper is quite likely the most important consideration for use with colored pencil and to be honest, any medium. I endured so much frustration and really thought I was just terrible with colored pencils due to using the wrong paper or trying to color on standard printer paper or coloring book pages. I simply could not get the pencils to blend and layer as I thought they should. I know it might seem trivial and silly to a lot of people, but I ended up in tears a lot of times because I wasn't achieving what I wanted to do with colored pencil. I wish I had seen a video like this during that time and understood the importance of using the right paper. It would have saved me so much time and frustration. Everyone who is serious about colored pencil art needs to know these things. Paper quality matters more than the pencils, in my opinion. I look forward to seeing your Crayola challenge. I have several different types and brands of pencils and am always very interested in seeing how different pencils work on different papers. Thank you for this much-needed video!
I agree! Paper makes much more of a difference than I first realized too! Here’s a more recent Crayola challenge I did on nicer paper (still mid-range, not the super pricey ones) - th-cam.com/video/gpiZGwg4iQI/w-d-xo.html
Your videos are so great. The quality has improved so much in the last months. Thank you for all of the time you spend making these for us. My Fiancé loves the Mother’s Day coloring book you created. I picked it up for her as well as some jumbo Koh I Noor magic pencils.
Thank you for this video . It helped a lot. When I was a beginning... I was learning pencils, I was practicing a lot and using many methods but my art was not improving. Then I realised that my paper was not good quality. So now I usually make my paper texture with white poster colour or some liquids.. According to the median . Thank you
I know, I'm a little late to watching the video, but I just stumbled across your channel. Thank you for testing all the papers, it helps me out a lot, because I love coloring with watercolor pencils and have tried so many papers and was still unsure which is best. For me so far watercolor or mixed media paper was best, mixed media paper warps and buckles when using watercolor pencils and wetting it over and over, but watercolor paper is so hard to print on....
This is super helpful. I've been meaning to get into some colouring pages, for the days where I just don't have the energy for drawing from imagination/starting from scratch... and while I know quite a bit about paper, and what I want for the different media I use - this had me stumped. I don't know anything about what works for printing colouring pages. So thank you! You've narrowed it down a lot with this video. Now to figure out which one the print shop will let me use in their printers 😂 (I really need to get my own)
FYI - I tried printing on Strathmore Colored Pencil paper using my Epson ET-3760 ink jet. I think it printed out just fine and can't wait to start coloring on it! I did have to trim the paper to 8 1/2" to fit in the paper tray though. I was a bit surprised that the colored pencil paper is not bright white like my Creative Haven coloring books. :)
A bit late, but I saw your comment - that's what I'm afraid of too - off white, or beige coloured paper, not white for my planner sheets; for colouring or mid-tonal based pictures having an off-white paper is fine, but I need crisp white for admin. I saw some nice whites in the video, but they were quite hard to really get to see them; and an Officeworks is just too far from me to go and flick through for 'feel'. Off to pay a premium at the local office depot, ouch. That's if they even stock any of the paper that Sarah recommend, haha!! :)
YES! Thanks so much for the paper comparison 😊 Ooooh if you like Mi Teintes, you should try Clairefontaine Pastelmat for layering. I’ve heard a lot of good things for that for pastel pencils.
FANTASTIC REVIEW!!! I just "liked" and Subscribed!!! Will be watching as many of your videos as I can. Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos!
Thank you, very helpful. I have been trying to do a picture on Strathmore Bristol Vellum with Luminance and Derwent Lightfast and just could not cover all the white. I switched to Bristol Smooth and it was much better. Instead of getting the 9x12, I found an 11x17 size and cut it in half. It went through the printer just fine and was much cheaper per page.
Thank you for all this research 😃. I use Neenah for Copic but I find a bit too smooth for pencils (polychromos), I am yet to find a favourite for both mediums and this video has given me some new ideas 👌
I really enjoyed the paper comparison. Soooo many choices. I haven’t really tackled a lot of colored pencils yet, mostly my Copics. But I appreciate all the tips.
Great video, Sarah! I learned a lot from you (as always)! Thank you very much! Don't worry about adding funny endings to your videos. If you think of something funny, so be it. If not, don't stress out because we enjoy watching you no matter what! Thanks!
This video was fantastic Sarah. I have to admit that I had about 90% of the papers you listed! I really appreciate the comparisons between smooth and vellum Bristol as well as Neenah paper. I am planning to test all my paper as you recommended. I am also especially interested in paper that is safe to use for digital coloring papers in a Laser printer. I always look forward to your videos and posts. Thank you for your research and hard work on our behalf. 😉
You going through all the terms was me when I first started looking into buying my own paper for printing coloring pages. I probably looked like I'd been hit over the head with something heavy. That was how I felt😂 I ended up trying (and falling in love with) Neenah white index card stock. I know it's considered too smooth for colored pencils, but it works great with markers, and using pencils overtop is smooth. Plus the smoother surface means the printed lines of the coloring page aren't in danger of rubbing off. I may try to use the Neenah Bristol Vellum at some point, but I get nervous about spending the money because I absolutely hated working with the Springhill Digital Bristol Vellum.
Use a straight through printer like Epson Artisian this way the paper thickness and size doesn't matter as much. These can print poster size prints to us letter as well as the thickest watercolor paper. Even use it with velvet paper to make prints of artworks.
Thank you so much for the effort put into this very informative video. Since I like to print out lineart and coloring it myself, I very much appreciate that you included paper fit for printing as well (I just ordered a pack of Neenah)👍
I appreciate all of the effort you put into research and product comparisons. I am sure you are saving a lot of us money😂❣️ thank you from Colorado USA🎉
Thank you for this!! I ended up going with the Neenah Cardstock! Before seeing your videos I had never even considered that you can actually use good quality paper in a printer! I thought I was doomed to keep using office paper for coloring lol
omg i am so glad i found you. I just got my first set of ohuhu markers and i have my polychromos. So now deciding on what to print out so i can start to colour . Let's just say i am an ultra later beginner in adult colouring blending etc * hehehe*. Thankyou so much and you have a new subscriber :)
Love it! I used hot pressed (cheap brand from $2 shop) watercolour paper for years when I first started do more colouring, works a treat as it has heaps of tooth.
Good video with a lot of information too! I am one of those who have almost completely stopped using wood pulp papers! 100% cotton just works so much better and last in the long term for preserving your art as well! Hey you got a new sub too!
Thank you! I am excited to use the 100% cotton papers properly soon for my artwork. I’m interested to see just how much better they are with the layering and details of a larger piece over a few hours!
Okay for your pastel paper the reason you had a tad of trouble pronouncing it is because it's in French so gris perle is Pearl Gray and mi-teinte is medium tint. I loved your review of all the papers, thank you for your hardwork! Mélanie
Hi, as always, thank you for this video, and the written article. Both help a lot! I have a comment about the Printing. Not only need to check the size of paper the printer can handle, but also the WEIGHT of the paper. If we read carefully the specifications and the instruction manual of the printer, it will be stated somewhere the maximum weight allowed for the printer. The maximum weight my printer can handle is 165 gsm, so printing on bristol papers or Canson 220 is not an option for me :(
Honestly as long as your willing to accept the consequences of having to fish out jammed paper from your printer ive been running 300lb+ watercolor paper and every other kind of art paper imaginable thru all my printers from hps, cansons, brothers and finally my amazing epson, and ive never actually damaged the print head, the rollers or anything else. The only thing to worry about is the printer ink and it smudging when you try to use any kind of color pencil blending medium, water or alcohol markers or watercolors over the line work youve printed out.
0:37 That is so so true even with Watercolors! Paper is absolutely the most important part as you can paint with the best paints but still have horrible results because of the cheap paper that we used!
Thank You Sarah!! So Very Helpful!! Truly a wealth of information that will help many with the confusion & frustration when first printing out coloring images!! I'm not sure if you have done your pencil sharpener video you mentioned but my vote for best all round budget sharpener is the Faber Castell 3in1 only downside is that I wear out the blades so quickly but it is affordable enough that I can just buy a new one about every 4-6 months!! Thanks again for all your commitment & hard work!! Cheers!!
I have a finicky printer, but I also don't print everything out. My choice for colored pencils are this order: Grumacher watercolor paper/mixed media paper; Canson Mixed Media/Watercolor; Neenah Bristol Vellum in white, gray and tan, Strathmore toned papers, kraft paper, then other watercolor paper/mixed media paper. The above specific also take inktense and gouache fairly well if a minimum water is used. I like the Grumacher the best right now because I occasionally use solvent. I do like the Canson Mixed Media but don't care for their wire rings. The kraft cardstock is great for mixed media where I'm trying to figure out the highlights and shadows. My choice for daily journal/bullet journal is colored pencil, then watercolor, then gouache. I'm really not much of a marker person unless I plan on using colored pencil over them...mostly because I think they're harsh, and because they mostly bleed through everything...unless I use something like kids washable markers which don't. I save my expensive 100% cotton watercolor paper for only watercolor.
I planned an awkward, “unscripted” (but totally scripted) ending for today’s video… but it turned into a genuinely-unscripted, even more awkward ending! 😬😱 Who else noticed before I did? 😂
Bleeding through with marker doesn’t matter if you put a thin piece of cardboard behind it. Different types of marker paper give you a different effect with marker as well. Bristol tends to suck out the color, vellum tends to pool the ink on top so you have to be really careful not to smear it it gives you a more intense color, and something like Bee paper is a happy medium between Bristol And vellum.
Have just discovered your channel and working my way through the videos. This paper one was interesting and I wondered if you have done experiments on printers or inks. My annoying problem is printing a picture only to find the ink bleeds using watercolour or alcohol markers muddying the colours on different paper
I found the core’dinations smooth white card stock from Walmart is amazing with alcohol markers and very affordable! But I’m in Canada and socked up a while ago so this tip varies in usefulness.
I made some protest signs using a watercolour bristol pad and sharpies, and I really liked how it turned out. The colours were deep and the drawing pad stiff enough for me to hold up. I would like something bigger tho, like A3-2, I realize I like drawing big. But alas, stores won't let me in to buy more art supplies. Gonna have to buy online. At least I can browse for more options.
I typed in number 38 and I landed here. Actually I typed in 038 and I landed here. The 38th landed me at a 404 not found screen. LOL I forgot to leave in 0. Oops. I believe I watch this it is good to refresh my mind. Looking forward to watching it again. I thoroughly enjoyed your live stream that I watched after the fact. Thanks for leaving the extra minutes before the official start of the session. Blessings.
This vid was super informative! Thank you so much, I know exactly what to buy now :D 4 different kinds to try for myself 🥰 I absolutely love to use the Derwent inktens pencils along with coloured pencils so I'm curious for the results 🤞
I just use whatever I can find at the supermarket. Usually, I pick out a decent sized sketchbook with a nice amount of tooth. I've currently been using a ucreate sketchbook. I love it. But I also like the Canson Media sketchbook, as I had a good experience with them in the past, and I would gladly get one again.
I have the polychromos collection, amazing colored pencils for my markers, you are so close too 100K!!!!! I have not tested the bristol series, other that Fabriano which I could say its good with markers and pencils (but you will reach a limit) I have used polychromos on canson mi teintes colored paper, and I can say that wax based prisma are better. Watercolor paper has the tooth, and its good for mixed media, in hot press is not so demanding with markers. In cold press is the best for the extreme realistic portraits fabriano artistico is on another level (I am not worthy as well as luminance pencils)
great video by the way. well the way I see it yes it is individual choice but it also depends on what your intention are for example watercolours paper yes there are so many brands but each has their purpose; you might want to frame it, give it as gift or sell it.etc
Are you Super Sarah with that Superman logo shirt on? Anyways, I personally wouldn't recommend cheap non refillable alcohol markers with the bristol papers because it likes to soak up the ink. The first artwork I ever did with alcohol markers (which were Ohuhu bullet tip markers) and doing the background my marker ran out of ink before I finished.
So, basically, I should just stick with my Neenah? Yup, guess so. I print a lot. I pull my colouring books apart and just print what I want to color, by scanning first. I often print out 5x7 (half a sheet...I don't know what you call inches) as it comes out nicer when you have larger areas to fill in, it saves on pencil and marker usage, and I get two different pictures on one sheet of paper! I just cut them in half before I start colouring. However, I am going to switch, if possible, to the Neenah you recommended. I have always gone by weight and brightness in cardstock. Now, to check on the price. Oh, and look how much Neenah you get compared to the others! Thank you.
FYI - there are a lot of different neena cardstocks. Check out some good papercrafters who use copics to get the correct one. I spent almost $40 on my ream on the US and thats normal.
All the paper terms being listed was funny to me. I tend to buy Bristol and a mixed media for my art, but I also make my own too which gives me more control over thickness and weight.
If you enjoyed this video, you'll probably also enjoy my huge pencil comparison video! Watch it here: th-cam.com/video/rC2AErhcKQE/w-d-xo.html
I believe that was the first video I of yours that I watched!! I worked for years as an artist, but stopped about 15 years ago and haven't really done anything in all that time. Something clicked in my head (heart?) recently and I've dove back into drawing/painting/etc.
I'd never really done much with color pencils, which is how I ended up finding your video. "Sadly" now I am coming to understand why people have so many types and sets!! (I catch myself seeing a set in the store and wondering what they look/feel like and tell myself I do not 'need' more).
This was terrific for how the pencils I have perform on different papers. Thanks for doing such massive research. I am struggling with using colored pencil over the top of ink in my Neurographica drawings. colored pencil paper is THE WORST. Even the copic multiliner ink drags out into my beautiful pastel colors and turns them gray. In this drawing technique, being able to color over the inking lines is ESSENTIAL. I love the method, but the ink smear is the madness. HELP! lol
Great comparison! If they sell the canson xl papers in your country their xl pastel paper is identical to the Mi-Tintes. I only found it once here but it worked great.
The Canson website says the XL range are “not available in Australia”- but I did manage to get some other papers that were aimed at a U.S. audience so I’m sure there would be a way!
I don’t think I need any new paper for a while here personally 😂 - but it’s a great note for anyone reading! I’m definitely excited to use the Mi-Teintes, the 500 Bristol and the Stonehenge for some actual drawing soon!
Canson is what we use mostly both for drawing and watercolors, and makers, paintmarkers and acrylic paint works great on most of the high quality stuff they do, it is expenciv though or at least the once we use are, its a pad of 20 A4 pages and its 50 euros, so with shipping to Australia its probely super expenciv. But great video, my local art store is very on top of the best quality stuff on the maked and go out of there way to stock everything they can of the top quality stuff, so they sell most of the high end paprr brands in you video pluss a buch more that possible to get here in europe
Mi teintes has cotton not xl...
I've said this for years. I would gladly spend $40 on a coloring book that was printed on and intended for a specific medium or mixture. Marketed that way for example "Intended for marker base with pencil finish work" and labeled specifically such as Bristol Smooth with weight and all. Such a needed product in the coloring industry. Please Sarah, partner with Kerby and make this product! You're wonderful btw. Oh and ask him not to add so much shading.
Yes, when I find a “water coloring book” it has amazing paper and thickness. I wish all coloring pages were printed on that paper so no matter what medium you use it can take it
There’s Pepin Press colouring books and cards: some are intended particularly for markers and also watercolor books
I can completely understand. I have sets of profesional pencils but it doesn't give them the full justice of what they can actually do if you do not use them on quality paper. The quality of paper is just as important as the quality of the pencils. Such a shame whem you get beautiful pictures in colouring books only to find that they are printed on standard printer paper. I'm really struggling to find a printer that is a multifunctional laser printer that will print on 300 gsm artist paper. If you have any ideas of what printers are capable I would really appreciate if you could let me know. What printer do you use. The exact Model and type.
@@Fallen5321 been checking a bit, Chatgpt mentioned Hp/Canon/Epson laser printer can take 300/220/256 gsm. However HP site mentioned only inkjet can take 300 while laser jet 200. (reference google HP Paper compatibility for HP inkjet and LaserJet printers)
@@Fallen5321I have a printer from Epson. It is especially produced for printing photos but I don’t print photos for a family album ;-) That also means this printer can print images in the most incredible colours and is very sharp with printing.
I’ve tested the paper it could handle. This printer printed a coloringpage on 270gsm (strathmore 300-Bristol vellum). It worked well. I must say that I could hear the printer was going to it’s ‘max’. The 250gsm went very easy and smooth. The 270gsm took him a bit more power.
Wow, I just finished my second year of college studying Art and Design, and this is incredibly helpful. I felt always so confused on which paper to use, since I work with a wide range of different mediums. Thank you for your hard work x
This is the best video I've seen on paper so far -- I love how many of these you tried and how in depth you went on the differences and pros and cons, including printing. I've never seen anyone talk about printing on these papers and it's good to know there are card stocks out there that work well for pencils!
Thank you!
I love how Sarah gives so much time and effort in making these videos!
There's also the option of printing your page out onto some cheap printer paper and use a light box to trace the lines on your thicker paper and with whatever pen/pencil you want!
I'm glad you included the stonehedge paper. I have heard great things. I would only use it for fine art pieces per the cost. Neena bristol vellum is the cardstock papercrafters use for their copic coloring besides the xpressit. Tfs
Girl, your artwork is brilliant. You deserve professional level papers! Own it!
I am in awe of the info in your video. Absolutely fantastic. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I bought Neenah Chardstock a few years ago from the Create & Craft channel. Brilliant for printing and markers, and I also found that my WH Smith Spectrum Sings pencils laid down so smoothly on the card.
It hasn't been too long since I discovered your channel and I'm so glad I did. I really appreciate how thoroughly you research and share your product results. But even more, I love the way you present yourself, especially on the pencil coloring videos. You're an incredible artist and a wonderful teacher. I get a kick out of your accent and sense of humor too. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Thank you for this!
Thank you for this. I have stayed away from pdf coloring pages because I just didn't know what paper to buy. Now I know and will go with the Neenah it sounds like a good place to start. Appreciate you taking the time to help us all out.
Now that I will have decent papers, I would like to suggest (and sorry if you have done this), but have a color-along with your color pages. Maybe have one monthly where you put one of your pages on sale for that month (or with one like the donut one, I really like that one, yum!), share a color palette/swatch, and let us color along with you.
I am looking forward to purchasing and using your color catalog and color theory, oh, and the Easy Floral Doodling, that one looks like a lot of fun.
This is a great comparison, thanks for all the hard work! Kirsty Partridge said she uses the cold press watercolor paper when she is going to blend with Zest-it (or mineral spirits/gamsol etc.). 2nd - I think you said you would wait until 100,000 subscribers to buy the full-set of Polycrhomos - I think it's NOT cheating to buy a smaller set - maybe 36 or 48! Just a thought!
Good point! They are one of the few sets that I’m confident I would eventually need to buy again, so maybe a smaller set is my solution😀
It's amazing just how many different kinds of paper there really is out there.
Great Video
I've been trying different paper for coloring. So many coloring books have poor quality paper. So I copy them on better paper. Its a work in progress. Thanks so much for the information. I've saved this video to reference future paper purchase. !!
In my personal opinion and experience, paper is quite likely the most important consideration for use with colored pencil and to be honest, any medium. I endured so much frustration and really thought I was just terrible with colored pencils due to using the wrong paper or trying to color on standard printer paper or coloring book pages. I simply could not get the pencils to blend and layer as I thought they should. I know it might seem trivial and silly to a lot of people, but I ended up in tears a lot of times because I wasn't achieving what I wanted to do with colored pencil. I wish I had seen a video like this during that time and understood the importance of using the right paper. It would have saved me so much time and frustration.
Everyone who is serious about colored pencil art needs to know these things. Paper quality matters more than the pencils, in my opinion. I look forward to seeing your Crayola challenge. I have several different types and brands of pencils and am always very interested in seeing how different pencils work on different papers.
Thank you for this much-needed video!
I agree! Paper makes much more of a difference than I first realized too!
Here’s a more recent Crayola challenge I did on nicer paper (still mid-range, not the super pricey ones) - th-cam.com/video/gpiZGwg4iQI/w-d-xo.html
Of course, I have way lots of pencils, and loads of paper, but I wish I had seen this before I had bought everything. 🫶
Helpful in knowing what to use with the medium I use most along with another. Thank you!
Great video...I leared alot...who knew it makes a difference with paper! I ordered the color cubes yesterday...can't wait!!!!!!!!!
Your videos are so great. The quality has improved so much in the last months. Thank you for all of the time you spend making these for us. My Fiancé loves the Mother’s Day coloring book you created. I picked it up for her as well as some jumbo Koh I Noor magic pencils.
Thank you. It’s a huge compliment that you’ve noticed the improvement!
Thank you for this video . It helped a lot. When I was a beginning... I was learning pencils, I was practicing a lot and using many methods but my art was not improving. Then I realised that my paper was not good quality. So now I usually make my paper texture with white poster colour or some liquids.. According to the median . Thank you
I know, I'm a little late to watching the video, but I just stumbled across your channel. Thank you for testing all the papers, it helps me out a lot, because I love coloring with watercolor pencils and have tried so many papers and was still unsure which is best. For me so far watercolor or mixed media paper was best, mixed media paper warps and buckles when using watercolor pencils and wetting it over and over, but watercolor paper is so hard to print on....
A great big thank you 🙏. I need to understand paper. A 2.0 in-depth video would be great. You’re the best.
Really great information in here. A video that you can watch over and over and still learn. There’s really a lot of papers.
I love the Neenah card stock paper. Thank you for sharing such an in depth review.
This is super helpful.
I've been meaning to get into some colouring pages, for the days where I just don't have the energy for drawing from imagination/starting from scratch... and while I know quite a bit about paper, and what I want for the different media I use - this had me stumped. I don't know anything about what works for printing colouring pages. So thank you! You've narrowed it down a lot with this video.
Now to figure out which one the print shop will let me use in their printers 😂 (I really need to get my own)
FYI - I tried printing on Strathmore Colored Pencil paper using my Epson ET-3760 ink jet. I think it printed out just fine and can't wait to start coloring on it! I did have to trim the paper to 8 1/2" to fit in the paper tray though. I was a bit surprised that the colored pencil paper is not bright white like my Creative Haven coloring books. :)
A bit late, but I saw your comment - that's what I'm afraid of too - off white, or beige coloured paper, not white for my planner sheets; for colouring or mid-tonal based pictures having an off-white paper is fine, but I need crisp white for admin. I saw some nice whites in the video, but they were quite hard to really get to see them; and an Officeworks is just too far from me to go and flick through for 'feel'. Off to pay a premium at the local office depot, ouch. That's if they even stock any of the paper that Sarah recommend, haha!! :)
YES! Thanks so much for the paper comparison 😊 Ooooh if you like Mi Teintes, you should try Clairefontaine Pastelmat for layering. I’ve heard a lot of good things for that for pastel pencils.
I have also seen tons of videos of pastel artists that mix pastels with color pencils using this paper.
If you ever test pastel pencils, use pastelmat paper. Results are fantastic and make using pastels more fun.
FANTASTIC REVIEW!!! I just "liked" and Subscribed!!! Will be watching as many of your videos as I can. Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos!
Finally! A video that was so informative! Thank you! I’m going shopping 🛍
Thank you, very helpful. I have been trying to do a picture on Strathmore Bristol Vellum with Luminance and Derwent Lightfast and just could not cover all the white. I switched to Bristol Smooth and it was much better. Instead of getting the 9x12, I found an 11x17 size and cut it in half. It went through the printer just fine and was much cheaper per page.
Thank you for all this research 😃.
I use Neenah for Copic but I find a bit too smooth for pencils (polychromos), I am yet to find a favourite for both mediums and this video has given me some new ideas 👌
I don't color that much, but this channel has made me a much better free hand artist. I have learned so much from your videos!
So TRUE. I write all the time, I an a Inkpen hoarder lol..I learned it is the Paper that also matters!! Thanks for the Info!!🙏🙏🙏🤟❣
I really enjoyed the paper comparison. Soooo many choices. I haven’t really tackled a lot of colored pencils yet, mostly my Copics. But I appreciate all the tips.
Great video, Sarah! I learned a lot from you (as always)! Thank you very much! Don't worry about adding funny endings to your videos. If you think of something funny, so be it. If not, don't stress out because we enjoy watching you no matter what! Thanks!
Very informative, you can learn a lot of helpful tips etc
This video was fantastic Sarah. I have to admit that I had about 90% of the papers you listed! I really appreciate the comparisons between smooth and vellum Bristol as well as Neenah paper. I am planning to test all my paper as you recommended. I am also especially interested in paper that is safe to use for digital coloring papers in a Laser printer. I always look forward to your videos and posts. Thank you for your research and hard work on our behalf. 😉
This was the video I never knew I needed! Brilliant! 👩🎨
On to pencil sharpeners! 👏
You are amazing
I been trying to figure this out for the longest. Your work is beautiful.
You going through all the terms was me when I first started looking into buying my own paper for printing coloring pages. I probably looked like I'd been hit over the head with something heavy.
That was how I felt😂
I ended up trying (and falling in love with) Neenah white index card stock. I know it's considered too smooth for colored pencils, but it works great with markers, and using pencils overtop is smooth. Plus the smoother surface means the printed lines of the coloring page aren't in danger of rubbing off. I may try to use the Neenah Bristol Vellum at some point, but I get nervous about spending the money because I absolutely hated working with the Springhill Digital Bristol Vellum.
An amazing review. 👏👏 I will have to check the blog to get the right for me paper! 🤗
VERY RESOURCEFUL & ENGAGING.... always walk away with ton of very helpful tips .. thanks Sarah!!
Use a straight through printer like Epson Artisian this way the paper thickness and size doesn't matter as much. These can print poster size prints to us letter as well as the thickest watercolor paper. Even use it with velvet paper to make prints of artworks.
This was the one I mentioned before. Having this printer makes life so much easier.
Thank you so much for the effort put into this very informative video. Since I like to print out lineart and coloring it myself, I very much appreciate that you included paper fit for printing as well (I just ordered a pack of Neenah)👍
Thank you so much for all this great information! So glad I discovered you on Facebook
I just use printer paper now but after this im for sure gonna buy better quality paper. Thank u for always helping my art improve. Love ya🥰
Thanks Sarah for this very informative video. I enjoy your wonderful personality and art!
I appreciate all of the effort you put into research and product comparisons. I am sure you are saving a lot of us money😂❣️ thank you from Colorado USA🎉
Thank you for this!! I ended up going with the Neenah Cardstock! Before seeing your videos I had never even considered that you can actually use good quality paper in a printer! I thought I was doomed to keep using office paper for coloring lol
Finally, 😄😄😄.....
I still confused 😕...
Smooth or vellum 🤔...
I used Canson XL bristol illustration for graphite,, but so difficult for color pencil
Smooth or vellum is totally a decision on preference. Try a few sheets of both and see what you like for your style of drawing.
@@SarahRenaeClark yeah, I should pick the Strathmore brand
Very comprehensive and helpful Thank you. God bless you, Sarah!
omg i am so glad i found you. I just got my first set of ohuhu markers and i have my polychromos. So now deciding on what to print out so i can start to colour . Let's just say i am an ultra later beginner in adult colouring blending etc * hehehe*. Thankyou so much and you have a new subscriber :)
I realy loved this video. And was waiting for it 😏, thank you so much for your help. I'm on a hunt for paper myself .🥰🥰🥰
I was wanting this video, thank you so much. I appreciate your work ❤️😍😊
Love it! I used hot pressed (cheap brand from $2 shop) watercolour paper for years when I first started do more colouring, works a treat as it has heaps of tooth.
Great video! Thank you for doing all the research for us!
Wow, great informative video. Appreciate your efforts. Love the information is very inspiring to play more with other papers.
Good video with a lot of information too! I am one of those who have almost completely stopped using wood pulp papers! 100% cotton just works so much better and last in the long term for preserving your art as well! Hey you got a new sub too!
Thank you! I am excited to use the 100% cotton papers properly soon for my artwork. I’m interested to see just how much better they are with the layering and details of a larger piece over a few hours!
If you can get hold of it the Claire Fontaine satine works well for coloured pencils. Expensive, but if you are doing something to sell it is good.
Okay for your pastel paper the reason you had a tad of trouble pronouncing it is because it's in French so gris perle is Pearl Gray and mi-teinte is medium tint.
I loved your review of all the papers, thank you for your hardwork!
Mélanie
Thank you for all of the work you do for us. Blessings
Hi, as always, thank you for this video, and the written article. Both help a lot! I have a comment about the Printing. Not only need to check the size of paper the printer can handle, but also the WEIGHT of the paper. If we read carefully the specifications and the instruction manual of the printer, it will be stated somewhere the maximum weight allowed for the printer. The maximum weight my printer can handle is 165 gsm, so printing on bristol papers or Canson 220 is not an option for me :(
Good tip! Thank you
Honestly as long as your willing to accept the consequences of having to fish out jammed paper from your printer ive been running 300lb+ watercolor paper and every other kind of art paper imaginable thru all my printers from hps, cansons, brothers and finally my amazing epson, and ive never actually damaged the print head, the rollers or anything else.
The only thing to worry about is the printer ink and it smudging when you try to use any kind of color pencil blending medium, water or alcohol markers or watercolors over the line work youve printed out.
0:37 That is so so true even with Watercolors! Paper is absolutely the most important part as you can paint with the best paints but still have horrible results because of the cheap paper that we used!
You are my hero, literally
Great video & blog post, also so informative. Thanks for all your hard work :-)
Awesome video!!! Thanks for doing all the hard work for us!!!
Thank You Sarah!! So Very Helpful!! Truly a wealth of information that will help many with the confusion & frustration when first printing out coloring images!! I'm not sure if you have done your pencil sharpener video you mentioned but my vote for best all round budget sharpener is the Faber Castell 3in1 only downside is that I wear out the blades so quickly but it is affordable enough that I can just buy a new one about every 4-6 months!! Thanks again for all your commitment & hard work!! Cheers!!
The sharpener video is ALMOST ready. It was held up a few times with our lockdowns and a few sharpeners that disappeared in post!
I have a finicky printer, but I also don't print everything out. My choice for colored pencils are this order: Grumacher watercolor paper/mixed media paper; Canson Mixed Media/Watercolor; Neenah Bristol Vellum in white, gray and tan, Strathmore toned papers, kraft paper, then other watercolor paper/mixed media paper. The above specific also take inktense and gouache fairly well if a minimum water is used. I like the Grumacher the best right now because I occasionally use solvent. I do like the Canson Mixed Media but don't care for their wire rings. The kraft cardstock is great for mixed media where I'm trying to figure out the highlights and shadows. My choice for daily journal/bullet journal is colored pencil, then watercolor, then gouache. I'm really not much of a marker person unless I plan on using colored pencil over them...mostly because I think they're harsh, and because they mostly bleed through everything...unless I use something like kids washable markers which don't. I save my expensive 100% cotton watercolor paper for only watercolor.
I planned an awkward, “unscripted” (but totally scripted) ending for today’s video… but it turned into a genuinely-unscripted, even more awkward ending! 😬😱
Who else noticed before I did? 😂
I noticed before you did 😂😜
Didn’t notice !
Didn't notice!
This was very helpful. Thank you.
Didn't realize I was watching you without subscription. Just subscribed. I really enjoy your content.
Bleeding through with marker doesn’t matter if you put a thin piece of cardboard behind it. Different types of marker paper give you a different effect with marker as well. Bristol tends to suck out the color, vellum tends to pool the ink on top so you have to be really careful not to smear it it gives you a more intense color, and something like Bee paper is a happy medium between Bristol And vellum.
I love that picture you drew , I believe it's called sadness. Love the color blue and what a great character she is.
Have just discovered your channel and working my way through the videos. This paper one was interesting and I wondered if you have done experiments on printers or inks. My annoying problem is printing a picture only to find the ink bleeds using watercolour or alcohol markers muddying the colours on different paper
I found the core’dinations smooth white card stock from Walmart is amazing with alcohol markers and very affordable! But I’m in Canada and socked up a while ago so this tip varies in usefulness.
Thanks for this informative video. Is there any tutorials that shows tracing the outlines of the drawings?
I made some protest signs using a watercolour bristol pad and sharpies, and I really liked how it turned out. The colours were deep and the drawing pad stiff enough for me to hold up. I would like something bigger tho, like A3-2, I realize I like drawing big. But alas, stores won't let me in to buy more art supplies. Gonna have to buy online. At least I can browse for more options.
I typed in number 38 and I landed here. Actually I typed in 038 and I landed here. The 38th landed me at a 404 not found screen. LOL I forgot to leave in 0. Oops. I believe I watch this it is good to refresh my mind. Looking forward to watching it again. I thoroughly enjoyed your live stream that I watched after the fact. Thanks for leaving the extra minutes before the official start of the session. Blessings.
Start watching now on Amazon for the polychromos. I got mine 2 years ago in June for $90 US complete set in June.
Thank you for all your work on this.
You put a lot of work into this love and you did a great job and i like you.
This vid was super informative! Thank you so much, I know exactly what to buy now :D 4 different kinds to try for myself 🥰 I absolutely love to use the Derwent inktens pencils along with coloured pencils so I'm curious for the results 🤞
That "underwhelmed" comment is so trashy. Absolutely love your work, Sarah!
I just use whatever I can find at the supermarket. Usually, I pick out a decent sized sketchbook with a nice amount of tooth. I've currently been using a ucreate sketchbook. I love it. But I also like the Canson Media sketchbook, as I had a good experience with them in the past, and I would gladly get one again.
I have the polychromos collection, amazing colored pencils for my markers, you are so close too 100K!!!!!
I have not tested the bristol series, other that Fabriano which I could say its good with markers and pencils (but you will reach a limit)
I have used polychromos on canson mi teintes colored paper, and I can say that wax based prisma are better.
Watercolor paper has the tooth, and its good for mixed media, in hot press is not so demanding with markers.
In cold press is the best for the extreme realistic portraits fabriano artistico is on another level (I am not worthy as well as luminance pencils)
Love watching all the information that you have
great video by the way. well the way I see it yes it is individual choice but it also depends on what your intention are for example watercolours paper yes there are so many brands but each has their purpose; you might want to frame it, give it as gift or sell it.etc
Are you Super Sarah with that Superman logo shirt on? Anyways, I personally wouldn't recommend cheap non refillable alcohol markers with the bristol papers because it likes to soak up the ink. The first artwork I ever did with alcohol markers (which were Ohuhu bullet tip markers) and doing the background my marker ran out of ink before I finished.
It definitely does use them up quickly!
So, basically, I should just stick with my Neenah? Yup, guess so.
I print a lot. I pull my colouring books apart and just print what I want to color, by scanning first. I often print out 5x7 (half a sheet...I don't know what you call inches) as it comes out nicer when you have larger areas to fill in, it saves on pencil and marker usage, and I get two different pictures on one sheet of paper! I just cut them in half before I start colouring.
However, I am going to switch, if possible, to the Neenah you recommended. I have always gone by weight and brightness in cardstock. Now, to check on the price. Oh, and look how much Neenah you get compared to the others!
Thank you.
FYI - there are a lot of different neena cardstocks. Check out some good papercrafters who use copics to get the correct one. I spent almost $40 on my ream on the US and thats normal.
WoW!!! I really didn't noticed that paper could be that much important 😅😀!!! Thanks for making this video 💖💖💖.
This is soooooo hopeful thank you for all the information
Koh-i-noor now makes a colored pencil paper that I really like. It is similar to Strathmore Bristol Vellum (my previous go-to paper).
Oooh!
Cool! Thanks for this. 💖💖💖💖
I bought Canson C a Grain Paper for my Colour Pencil Drawings, Hope it will be nice!
I use a sketch book or just normal paper and this vid rlly helped
Very informative and lots of great practical advice
Very good video, thank you for doing this! You're an angel! 🙏🏻♥️
All the paper terms being listed was funny to me. I tend to buy Bristol and a mixed media for my art, but I also make my own too which gives me more control over thickness and weight.