in 2008 I did a trip around all of the former yugoslavian countries with my kids... It was a great trip, even though the scars of war were still present. Driving through Bosnia in particular. The only place I didn't go was Kosovo. All of the people were extremely freindly, with the exception of an over zealous cop in Belgrade. The day we reached Belgrade there was a bit of a riot, because Serbs were protesting the capture of Radovan Karadžić. We did meet a really great Serb guy called Max though, who helped us and was at pains to show that despite a lot of bad press, that the Serbs are not bad guys. My kids were 8 and 11, and it was a great holiday, with a bit of education and history throughout. I hope you get to have your trip.. good luck, and I love your accent alsho.
AS A SERBIAN COMBAT VETERAN WHO FOUGHT IN THE CROATIAN AND BOSNIAN WARS FIND YOUR BIASED DUTCH WESTERN BULLSHIT APPAULING...CHERRY PICKING TRUTHFUL FACTS IN ORDER TO APPEASE YOUR SERB HATING FANS IS CRIMINAL
Very well informed and objective summary! [Says someone who unfortunately lived through these events, and hates nationalistic interpretations of each side.]
@@HistoryHustle I can. I have nothing to hide. I'm Serb from Vojvodina (Northern Serbia), and I was drafted to Federal Army in September 1991, sent to Herzegovina. Shortly after our arrival, fighting started in multiple places in Croatia, including Dubrovnik theater, where we were deployed, after finishing our training. As you correctly stated: by 1992 Federal Army was heavily dominated by Serbs, as most of others were already gone (deserted). Despite all that, regular Federal troops (19y/o conscripts) were the most efficient and disciplined, comparing to reserves, volunteers and paramilitaries, who were often drunken, ill-trained buffoons, that we had to constantly babysit, prevent them burning everything or injuring themselves and others. Luckily, there was almost no civilians left where we were. By UN decree, Federal army had to withdraw all it's troops from Croatia and all Serbian citizens from Bosnia by May 15th, 1992. My unit was one of the last to leave as we were almost completely encircled by Croatian troops. After withdrawal, we left all our weapons to Bosnian-Serbian friends who had to stay there, under command of general Mladic. My lieutenant was one of them and he died two weeks later. For me, that was enough of war. I served rest of my term in my hometown, but never responded to call for reserve after that. In 1998, after realizing that conflict on Kosovo will further escalate, I took a job offer and left a country for good.
@@HistoryHustle Given my age and proximity of my hometown to Vukovar, Croatia, I have dozens of schoolmates, friends and cousins, who participated in this needles conflict and had very similar stories (some much worse: POWs, getting wounded, etc). In 1995, my cousin died during operation 'Storm', as him and his unit refused to withdraw from our ancestral homeland (Dalmatia). I also had cousins who fought on Croatian side. So for me personally, this really was 'brother against brother' war. :(
Croatian war for indenpendence was from 1991.( when first armed conflicts started) to 1995. ( that Tudjman-Milosevic agreement didn't end the war in 1992. , there were a lot conflicts going on in Croatia after that ) But also before first armed conflicts there was a serb rebellion that has started back in 1990. There were operations, by Croats to free their land ,in 1992. ,93. ,94. And operation "flash" then "storm" in 1995.
Wow, these 2 parts of the Yugoslavian history were very well-explained. I now have a clear view of these terrible wars that happened right in my backdoor when I was a child, as I am Romanian. I never really understood what happened but now I do. Thank you very much for that!
I'am Croat... and i was young but I won't forget the war in YU and for me it was just one (90-99). My city of Zadar was surrounded for a couple of years and (untill US green light and operation Storm/Oluja) sometimes we were in shelters for a 6 months in one piece without electricity and water. We were lucky that city of Zadar was under Italy state for many years and we had a complexes of concrete fortification trenchs and MG nests at the city's frontiers because that was Italy Royal State border with Kingdom of SHS (slovenians,croats,serbs. That area was wery important for Knin and Kraijna Serbs because if Zadar falls Croatia's south would be cut of the main state in two parts. My childhood game was searching hot "shrapnel s) after bombardment. I forgive but i didn't forget! Big shame for Holland because of Srebrenica, not Holland the whole EU and US(read NATO)! They could stop that at its roots '91 just with one airplane carrier from Adriatic. After Vukovar ( make some video about that city) Krajina Serbs from Knin did do some butchering in the villages around Zadar...we were next. Without old Italy border they would wipes us out like Vukovar.
@@HistoryHustle...comming next week to Holland. Maybe we could drink one beer somewhere. I'am not joking... I like to talk about history. Very good videos but for example i was there in the '90.
Your story is a product of a imagination or old wifes tales, Krajina army was never allowed to get close and when they did order was sent to retrieve back..
You can say that Croatian war for independence lasted all the way to 1995, after Operation Strom took place, but the peaceful reintegration took place in 1998, and that's when all Croatian territory was in hands of Croatia (I'm from Croatia)
at 10:02 you say the Serbian army used excessive violence ? Is British use of force in N. Ireland perceived the same? Spanish in Baskia and Catalonia? Please make a general statement on countries protecting their souveregnity.
Thanks again for your great video. And your introduction at the beginning is brilliant. I have a sentiment about us, who live in former parts of Yugoslavia, having a trauma like a couple after a bad divorce. There is hate and only bad things about others are spoken. The sad thing is national elites of nations victimize their own nation but slander the others. This approach is used for education, where each country has its own version of history. I am not really optimistic in that regard, hopefully, it will be better. There is an initiative from the historians from the former republics working really professionally. The internet documentation is unfortunately in Serbo-Croat language. I enjoy listening to the historical facts... They also have the initiative for saving history (against political pressures). One of the members of that initiative said due to conflicting histories taught at schools in different former republics as dangerous - the political elites might prepare ideology for the next war. All Yugoslav wars are documented really well. The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia collected really a lot and these wars are the most documented.
So so sad... I feel sorry for the innocent children in this conflict. My dad was on holiday in Italy when the Yugoslav wars began and he could hear the faint bombs falling everywhere. Thanks for explaining this, in Luxembourg nobody really cares or talks about it which is sad and so I didn't really know what happened. Keep up the good work!
hahah he could hear bombs in Italy and Croatia is on other side of adriatic sea? XD And i was kid in refugee camp in Croatia and i never heard any bomb hahaha
Many mistakes has made in this video. I'm born there, lived-in during war and after war.What I so it 50% opposite of true story. Sorry but that's facts Before war started at Kosovo ,Albanian terrorist killers killed,raped, kidnapped and butchered many Serbs citizens and sold internal organs .And Kosovo is part of Serbia according UN resoluti resolution 1244.NATO 💣 bombarding Serbia land with unrich URANIUM. Build military base the biggest in whole region.
Albanians were not oppressed. Some rights to Kosovo were revoked, but still Albanians had more rights than Basques in Spain or France. Albanians just wanted to secede from Serbia and later Macedonia. Even during socialist era there were individuals in Kosovo or in Albanian emigration who advocated it. Main difference is that Spain is member of NATO, while Yugoslavia/Serbia was not.
Albanians were oppressed as hell! Albanian language wasn't even allowed, while Basque and Catalan are allowed. Milosevic was a true oppressor, he wanted to put Serbian policy all over Yugoslavia, and that's the real reason for the breakup.
Few facts. Serbs rebelled on new Croat state cos they got terrible experience from 1941 when Croat state murdered 700 000 mostly women children and elderly people and 1991 Croat state reborn with same principles and same goal and what's worse Croats had help and support from Germany as same in 1941. Sarajevo wasn't surround by Serbs force it is fact that all villages around Sarajevo living ethnically Serbs. In Srebrenica happened that 1200 muslim war prisoners were murdered as revenge against them murdered 3500 Serbs in villages around Srebrenica. There was so many war crimes in Bosnia from all sides but only Serbs were accused and trialled only because USA politician needs Muslims as victims than US army may save them. In that time USA made wars against so many muslim countries and to support Bosnian muslims was perfect answer for them. also Serbs are historically connected with Russia and one more reason to made Serbs as bad guys. I waa in Croatia and Bosnia from 91 to 95 that's how I got this facts.
Unfortunately this Brakeup happened. But Slobodan Milošević never want a Greater Serbia, he was Pro-Yugoslav and he want a Short version of Yugoslavia. Some political figures want Greater Serbia and that was Vojislav Šešelj (He was in Hague for war crimes) and Vuk Drašković. Slobodan Milošević never want Greter Serbia and that only says that Yugoslavia remain untill 2003 and he wasn't change that name, we still had same anthem "Hej Sloveni" and i think that all says about them. And one more thing Hague when he prosecuted Slobodan Milošević, the Hague doesn't have evidence for telling Slobodan was a war crimes, he also putted some Sancions on Bosnian Serbs during Bosnian War. So difficult to understand whole this Brake up.
I am afraid that you're wrong. Milosevic really took all in to create greater serbia. It was the mainstay of serbian political thought from 1918... and, unfortunately, it still is
@@tihomirbradic6026 That country doesn't change name to Serbia in that time, they was still called Yugoslavia since 2003, so Greater Serbia wasn't in plan at all, only in plan to other politicians who was in opposition like Šešelj and Drašković.
Milošević agreed the etnic cleasing of Croats. He asked Ŝešelj to do the 'dirty job' in Vukovar area. He was a nationalist. Milošević wanted Slivenia to leave Jugoslavia.
the Croats abolished the equality of Serbs and Croats in the then federal unit of Croatia. Dissatisfied with this decision, the Serbs decided to call a referendum in which as much as 94% of the population in that territory voted for the independence of the autonomous province of Krajina. Croats, although not yet internationally recognized, are launching police operations arresting Serb representatives and municipal board leaders. At that time, Serbs showed dissatisfaction with the proclamation of the Republic of Serbian Krajina. Then the first brigade of the Croatian army was created, which occupied Vukovar and several other places in the Krajina, after which the territorial defense of the Krajina liberated them with help yugoslav army.
@@HistoryHustle You clearly know nothing about this topic since you don't even bother to check how to pronounce the word Yugoslavia. hint, it does not begin with the letter G. Slobodan Milosevic was also exonerated in your globalist Hague kangaroo court. That still photo of the single gaunt refugee Bosniak next to the well fed fat Bosniak men at a refeugee camp (not a concentration camp which was exposed by a German civil engineer who builds fences for a living, no less) was cherry on the cake. You continue to perpetuate all the same narratives and lies that have been since uncovered and exposed about this topic for decades now, but you already knew that. FUCK YOUR LYING DUTCH MOUTH!
The neighbor below me is a Serb, I worked for a Serb, I have Serbian friends, I'm sorry if you lost your home, but those who didn't cause problems stayed. Why did you leave?
You forgot to mention the protracted conflict between Bosnian and Croatian HVO forces between 1992 and 1994 when a peace treaty was signed between the two sides. Please also note that the letter J actually sounds like Y in the the different languages. Keep up the great work.
Let’s say it’s a very simplified view from skipping a few key events. I will not engage in discussions about crimes because that was the source of all evil and an introduction to the spiral of evil. Do not equate Tudjman and Milosevic. Neither their role is the same nor are their desires the same. This is especially true for Alija Izetbegović. The worst thing is that no one here is exclusively a victim or exclusively an aggressor. The only thing they have in common is that they were all losers in the end, especially considering the human casualties. You skipped to say that the war in BiH stopped only when the Croatian army invaded and defeated the Serbian army after the "storm". The condition for that was the "Split agreement" between Croatia and BiH, signed by Tudjman and Izetbegovic. So the two "victims" came to their senses and realized that only together they could defeat the "aggressor". Essentially a good approach without imposition because the damn history is very tangled in the balkans and the bills are not clean nor ever will be. Maybe we should draw the line once and say; "Enough! what was was and remains behind us, we go from today clean and from the beginning as if there was nothing before" Of course if that is possible.
@@HistoryHustle Thank you very much! Unfortunately, the war caught me in its full force without any mercy, but with a little luck. My family mostly stayed alive. I was forced to fight for a bare life. I was in the 3rd Guards Brigade, fighting in eastern Slavonia near Osijek, Vinkovci and Vukovar. My unit lost 1/3 of its men in those battles but we kept our positions and were not broken through. I am aware that this is a very high price to pay for independence. But it was worth it and I would pay it again if I had to. You don't know what it was like to be a Croat in Yugoslavia, always second class and always guilty of something you are not really guilty of. Before the very beginning of the war, my father (then dean of the Faculty of Electrical Engineering) and I (then a student of mathematics and physics) were blackmailed in the JNA newspaper and our arrest warrants were issued. It is a classic communist procedure of cleansing the undesirable by killing all potential suspects and disloyal respectable citizens and members of their families. Today, those criminals who published and encouraged it are hidden by some advanced states and parties. I am not asking for revenge, but only for the truth to be done, because that is enough for the masks of those "top performers of the situation" in the Balkans to fall. Then they would no longer be so popular and would not be such experts but what they are - instigators of war and crime. For me, those instigators are worse than those who kill. Those who kill are only useful fools and they would not exist without instigators. But the "advanced" instigators need a new war. I don't hate anyone, one of my grandmothers is Orthodox and the other is Italian. One appetizer is French and the great-grandmother is German. I even have one Jewish grandmother and one Armenian grandmother. My wife has one Polish grandfather and the other a Hungarian. One great-grandmother is Romanian. Please tell me nicely what are our children then ??? In our Balkans, it is normal to mix like that, it is important that you are a good man. Then someone decided to pursue racial and ethnic purity, to make a "Greater Serbia" and a Serbian world. Unfortunately, we also have such fools with great Croatian, but fortunately too few and no one accepts them. Honestly, they also get too much media space. Foolishness !!! I'm asking you how I can hate someone. It’s like a Jew trying to be a Nazi - a contradiction by definition. oxymoron.
@@HistoryHustle I was motivated by the desire to explain to people what evil had happened here and that we did not want it again. It is terrible that small groups of extremists (when you add up all the extremists they do not exceed 1-2% of the total population) can start such a spiral of evil and throw so much shame on one nation. Someone said that evil flourishes when good people do nothing against evil. You do it, you try to present it as it is and explain in a simplified acceptable way why it happens. You do it better than I would because it’s hard for me to omit some “important” events that aren’t so important to you. That’s why it’s always better to have it done by a “stranger” - someone who can be objective and who personally doesn’t care about some things. Probably some controversial chapters of history should be studied and researched in this way. Thank you! I would just like to say one more thing. Croatian-Serbian relations were never simple, but until 1914 they were not as they are now. Before 1914, Serbs and Croats lived permanently under foreign rule and were aware that they had to help each other. When they finally got "their" state (Yugoslavia) things went wrong. Most likely because that state was created the wrong way both times. As a product of the “war booty” of a winner who thought he could do whatever he wanted there. That is why it was an occupation both times. Thanks again!
@@Greensanctuary-c4w You write that Milosevic ordered the Serbian army not to interfere. That is only partly true. Let's say he ordered the attack on Croatia, what could he achieve? He could attack only in a narrow area of Eastern Slavonia, and the entire area was heavily fortified and full of pasture fields. Whoever attacked there, the losses would be terrible. Do you think he could have sent an army to the copied parts of Banovina and Dalmatia? How long do you think it would take for that army to get there, develop into battle order and begin combat operations. You do NOT know because you listened to some babblings who have no idea. Real trained officers know that it is a huge logistical job and it takes 4-6 days. The HV already cut through the occupied areas on the second day, and the third day was followed by cleaning. The army that would come on the fourth day to attack the positions of the HV would encounter already dug-in positions and soldiers carrying the sense of victory and would suffer terrible losses and probably not do anything significant. The most that any army of the Republic of Serbia could do is bombard civilians in Croatian cities. You guessed it would be equally won. With the difference that Croatia then had S300 systems and could reach far into Serbia. In addition, Serbia was exhausted by sanctions. Slobo acted much smarter than those who are inciting you would do.
I absolutely loved this set of videos prof Stefan on this beautiful and unfortunately war torn region of the world for so many years. The fall and break up of Yugoslavia is not talked about nearly enough in the classroom. I recently came back to the states from beautiful croatia and spent a lot of time in split and Zagreb. I wish I could have seen more of the region but I will be back someday soon hopefully to visit Slovenia and North Macedonia
mister uploader, i have only one question for you: where the guilt is supposed to be looked for - in cause or in consequence? I expect simple answer soon.
All the wars in Balkan have one thing common... its always the Serbs wanting a "Greater Serbia"... A good video in general but have to say for all the people who are wondering why Serbia didn't have a war with Slovenia and North Macedonia. The reason is there weren't large minority Serbs living there as in Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo.
@@HistoryHustle And Albanians are not the only minority in Serbia. Look at the nothern part of Serbia where there are living many more minorities (with about Hungarian minority about 25 percent) and people get along and respect each other.
@@mbanjur 1. Don't forget Mostar 2. You can't compare the bosniak crimes (Scarce and not frequent) with croat crimes, which were systematic and far more brutal
Wow, these times must have been tough on the people.😢 I knew about the war in the Yogoslavian region, but it was complex and confusing... now I understand it more. Thank you! I have been to Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Albania. The traces of the destruction could have been seen in Bosnia up today.
in all.. you missed yugoslavia completely, sorry.. it's about turks/constantinople/medieval serbia.. that's when multiple identities, land claims have roots.. that's what blew up.. islam/orthodox/catholic life views.. slav identity remained and kept 2 yugoslavias on life support. and face it.. noone wants to live with muslims. sounds disgusting, but it's just true. or with serbs for that matter..
Stefan why you erased my messages I wrote true facts and is common knowledge for the Fanatic muslims which fought in Bosnia I don' t accuse every muslim
Thus is Tough subject for me, as someone who's mother is Serbian (from Vojvodina) and have family and connections to all of other states, this was a real mess.
Yes, indeed. I do not know if this war could've been prevented though. Perhaps if Tito had a strong successor and the communist bloc wouldn't fall it was perhaps possible...
This was not a civil war. It was a war of aggression and expansion by Serb forces, which included the JNA and paramilitary forces, to create a Greater Serbia. There was no war in Serbia (until NATO came much later). Milosevic wanted to be the next Tito and control all of Yugoslavia but Yugoslavia governed under a rotating presidency after Tito and times were changing in Europe with the fall of communism. War, however, was not inevitable as the idea was put forward for a confederation before independence was proclaimed but this was rejected by Milosevic. The breakup of Yugoslavia is seen as the last correction of the peace terms after WWI as this multi-ethnic state was created with half the people wanting centralization and half wanting decentralization but because of communism and Tito was not finalized until the 1990s.
@@ccdsds3221 Although historically one declared war on another before military action, that rule no longer applies. Americans were shocked at Pearl Harbor because Japan did not declare war. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had no formal declaration to them for example.
@@chrishanzek8930 In October 2002, Congress authorized President Bush to launch a military attack against Iraq if he decides it is necessary.The declaration gives U.S. forces access to Afghan military facilities to prosecute “the war against international terror and the struggle against violent extremism. As for Japan, that was a part of WW2 theater, fascist countries didn't bother to declare wars since they ignored geneva convention every day and didn't care for international war. Armed conflicts are not classified as war therefore no country is guilty. To further prove my point international court found that nor Serbia or Croatia are to pay reparations or were directly involved in genocides etc... since there was no wa.
How can you make a video about history and avoid very important facts? SAO Kraina Searbs wanted to cut Croatia in half, they threw trees on the road and made blockades and made disorder and murder in the surrounding area For example, Luka Modrić's grandfather was killed by Serbs from SAO Krajina. You can see the Serbian way in the examples of Dubrovnik: th-cam.com/video/PHmim7pb5-I/w-d-xo.html Vukovar: th-cam.com/video/xXxReagIewE/w-d-xo.html What was done in Srebrenica at the hands of the Serbs was also happening around Vukovar: th-cam.com/video/KrREmLSkD1E/w-d-xo.html As for The Flash and the Storm: The Croatian army made a military action in a way to push out the rebels and not to kill them the rebel Serbs had the choice of accepting Croatia as their country or leaving The worst thing experienced by the rebel Serbs who left Croatia at that time was the Serbs from Bosnia and finally the Serbs from Serbia who refused to help them and mocked them. You are trying to present Croats as violent, Croats have always only defended themselves. When a special forces soldier who fought in 91-92 tells you how did they get to the location where people's arms and legs were cut off and replaced position and with their heads on their chests. And this is happening on Croatian territory, and the Croats did not enter Serbia and start causing problems if you really are a professor of history, check the facts and try to think with your head Does Croatia need anything from the Serbia, the answer is a simple: NO Do the Serbia want something from Croatia? Oh look at the beautiful sea... How would it be for you as a Dutch person if a Pole or a Turk told you that Limburg area is now ours because we live there?
From your videos and your answer, I can see that you are some Serb pretending to be Dutch And you have some frustrations about Croats. My grandfather was a Partizan and lived in peace until 1991 Then my father had to leave his wife who was then dying of a brain tumor with children aged 8 and 5 to defend the country And the best thing is that I have friends who are Serbs, but the country's politics always sees us as enemies
@history hustle - stephan i enjoy ur videos and support ur channel. but as a bosniak im sorry to tell u but MANY of ur facts here are wrong...sarajevo for example where do u get the figure of 5000 civilians killed, 14000 alone were just snipered...so on and so on...very touchy subject for us all and i really think u should've done a little bit more in depth research here because i have found about 7-8 facts completly wrong and off...at same time i'm sure this chapter of history has so much missinformation since all 3 sides will tell 3 diff stories but the truth is also not far from the eye if u just dig a little deeper in it. but i'm sorry to tell u my friend, this video u made has a lot of zig zags in it :)
The war in Croatia has started in 1991. and ended in 1995. after miletery police operation 'Storm' ( Vojno-redarstvena operacija Oluja). After Storm we needed to decided about Estern Croatia a.k.a. Danube in areas nearest river Danube (Dunav). That area was decided resolved through peaceful reintegration and then was decided that the fallen city Vukovar and ocupated area by Serbian forses to be left to Croatia. Also ther was other great miletery police operations like 'Pirate' to liberate area near Zadar caled Maslenica another operation is 'Flash' for as Croats also wery important moment in our history. There was many war crimes in triple sides (Croats, Serbs and Bosnian) and we all regret about all fallen victims in every war that has acured in any of our neighbouring countries. I will also mention these words from our general Ante Gotovina and I quote "Rat pripada povjesti, okrenimo se budućnosti, svi zajedno." ( War belongs to history, let’s turn to the future, all together.) The words of our retired general of the Croatian Army, indicted for war crimes in 1995. in a storm operation that shattered the Great Serbian aggression against Croatia but proved innocent like other Croatian retired generals in The Hague in 2012 so they were released. Also in the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, we helped the Bosnian forces to get rid of Serbian tyranny as well. But overall the video is very instructive and interesting. My mistake if sad anithing wrong or if I offended somebody, again sory.
@@HistoryHustle Well in some moments you presentation is a bit biassed. When you talk about Bosnian war, you mention only Serbian camps while Croats and Bosniaks had theirs also out of which i think Croats had the most prisoners with over 50 000. About Dutch soldiers, they didn't just watch how Serbs transported 7000 people, they kicked out 350 people out of their camp which Serbs than killed. And in the Kosovo war you made most mistakes or failed o mention the most. You say that Serbian government opressed their language and culture which is not really true, while opression in that sense happened it was much earlier during Tito's Yugoslavia and since 1968 Kosovo Albanians full language and cultural rights the real problems stared 1981 when they asked to be a republic inside Yugoslavia. Also you say clashes with KLA started in 1998 but they started their actions in 1996. And you say that NATO intervened after reports of massacres when there was one massacre that was direct cause for NATO agression and thats Racak "massacre" or also know as Racak hoax, alleged massacre that was largely proven as blatant lies of William Walker who according to Finnish medical examener Helena Rane knowingly lied to the public. When you talk about bombing, you say NATO bombed strategic sites in Belgrade, Nis and Novi Sad, I would like that you just to google it, but among the other's "strategic sites" there were monasteryes, every bridge in Serbia, passanger train, RTS TV house, passenger bus, RTV TV house, outdoors market in Nis, Chinese ambassy in Belgrade, hospital, maternity hospital, all major and some minor industrial buildings, chemical industry, oil rafinerys. Depleted Uranium was maybe also worth a mention and an interesting case with Italian soldiers. And you can look into corruption of US officials, not for this video of course, like Wesley Clark and Madeleine Albright who were one of dessisionmakers at the time and Kosovo mining and telecomunications owners afterwards...
@@HistoryHustle Hi, Serb here, 1) In Craotia Serbs rebeled because of reviving Ustashe iconography after 1st elections. And unlawfull changes of constitution erasing their status as "constitutional people" (see also prior to that, Milosevic's unlawfull Anti-Beaurcratic Revolution). After the radicalisation caused by war they didn't want to live in Croatia. 2)Simulataniously with violence against Croats in RSK, there was purging of Sebs from rest of Craotia, and lesser preassure on Croatian ressidents in Serbia. Showing only 1 graph makes it biased, because this events are directly connected. 3) Milosevic never had or adopted the idea of Greater Serbia. It is pushed by western propaganda. He never used the term, only when western journalists asked and he dismissed the idea as nonsence. Oposition leader Seselj was for it. That story is everywhere in western books, sci-papers, media,... If one reads russian sourcess for example he will get totaly different picture. Milosevic wanted strongest Yugoslavia possible with majority people supporting it, and for him to be in power. He had montenegrian descent, but Montenegrin and Serb identities are somewhat overlaping. 4) Failed to mention "constitutioal peoples" of Bosnia in regards to independence referendum, and rejection of Carrington-Cutileiro plan, as direct cause of Bosnian war. Nothing to do with Greater Serbia. 5) Kosovo war and NATO aggression part is very weak. Yes many lies surfaced for western public, and it wasn't cause for aggression. It was low intensity war with low numbers of fatalities prior the aggression. chomsky.info/humanism01/ th-cam.com/video/ljEAyryiwsg/w-d-xo.html Later, under cluster bombs and guerilla attacks number of war crimes from yugoslav side did happen. 6) Milosevic was post-mortem exonorated couple of times by ICTY for war crimes. www.globalresearch.ca/the-hague-tribunal-exonerates-slobodan-milosevic-again/5622787 It doesen't mean that he didn't steal 1 elections in 1996., others were not fair, persecuted opposition, shared guilt for tragic wars,... Overall not bad video compared to others for understanding the whole mess. Also, significant impact on events and processess had foreign factors. Mainly Germany and later USA. US declassifies it's secrets after 25 years. I hope it will us more insight on this subjects.
from my point of view, without taking any sides, i can say that the Croats were entitled to their self determination and the creation of their independent state. What i don't understand, is why the Serbs were not allowed the same. The first political decision the new government of newly independent Croatia took, was to deprive the Serbs of their civil rights and constitutionally treat them as a minority, instead of trying to include them and make them feel safe in the new Croatian state. No wonder the Serbs decided they don't want to live in their lands as a minority and asked exactly what the Croats asked from Yugoslavia: the right to self-determination. Since Croatia was not willing to treat them as normal citizens of Croatia, and Croatian politicians waved in their faces the fascist symbols of Ustasha from WWII, i can't blame them for wanting to be separate. This was translated as "the greater Serbia" by Western Media, which is far from truth. Serbs wanted just what the rest of Yugoslav nations wanted too: the right of self-determination and to live under their own ethnic government. Overall, i think Tudjman, Milosevic and Izetbegovic were to blame for the chaos, because their political judgement was driven by nationalism and hate, instead of realism and democratic sentiments. Especially Milosevic and Tudjman, who had the guts to secretly meet and plan the division of Bosnia, in favor of Croatia and Serbia. I mean, Tudjman built all his argument that Croatia should keep its borders as they were during Yugoslavia, but when it came to Bosnia, it was also ok to annex the Hercegovina part to Croatia :) But that's what you get when you support fanatics, nationalists and crazy corrupted leaders: war.
indeed, it was. It seems that everyone were out of their minds back then. And it saddens me to see that even after so many examples history gave us that nationalism creates only hate and destruction, people still fall for it. @@HistoryHustle
@@saas-lk2oe so why albanians werent allowed to make there own state and for self-determination in (kosovo)? Serbian hypocracy as it best... Serbs forbid albanian people to speak there language...using there minority rights and Status 1988 (antiburocratical revolution)...but you are whining about croats? Really? While serbs in croatia started without any reason to occupy 1/3 of croatia and to kill and ethnic cleanse 200.000 croats and other non-serbs from lika, Kordun and banovina... And These "ustasha" Symbols you are talking about (checkerboard for example) are older then whole serbian nation
I know im saying this a while later since the video was posted but The Croatian War Off Independance (Sometimes called the Homeland War) lasted since 1991-1995...and Croats didnt murder or torture citizens,Serbs did that. Also my dad was in a small village Antin during the war,I can tell you more about his experiance if you want me to! Anyways,I think this video is very clear and well explained...i give it 10/10 Rainbows 🌈✨👏
It wasn't a very limited NATO bombing of Bosnian Serbs after Srebrenica that brought them to negotiating table and it wasn't the first NATO action against them either. It certainly had some influence, but much more important factor was Croatian forces liberating the whole of western Bosnia up to Banja Luka in autumn 1995. which led to collapse of Bosnian Serbian army.
I can't believe you're pronouncing Yugoslav (Jugoslav) as 'j' Jugoslav. It's pronounced with an 'y' Yugoslav dude!! I'm sorry but the 'j' Jugoslav kept hurting my ears
@@samocovek9382 If you keep telling that to ypurself it will not become a reallity. Partisans were founded in Croatia,1941 on the same date as the invasion of Soviet union took place. We freed ourselves so please cut the crap. Why are you Serbs still so oppsesed with us?
Kaži ti meni koji srbi su napravili Hrvatsku idiote maloumni opet ti pričaju laži pa naravno kad ste ljubomorni bolji smo od vas u svakom smislu osim u lažima izgubili ste rat nije ništa vaše izgubili ste kosovo jadni ste
4:09 Great Serbia? Slobodan Milosevic was communist, he just love yugoslavia... In federal republic od Yugoslavia named Croatia living 750 000 Serbs and in first years of war exeplled 350 000 serbs from that Republic. In Krajina other 400 000 serbs was going out or expelled in croatian criminal military operation named oluja 95'
IN republic of Croatia was never more then ..rafly10%of serbian people in 1990...some 86/87% oc croats...and some 3/4% of bosniaks, italians , hungarians, slovaks, slovins roma........and others. Half of them wich lived in cytiees are still here...as most of my neugbers...of which many was fought against idea of a Great Serbia Another half which lives on a country side...mountain reagion...yust follow the leadership of so called "Kraina"....knowing for crimes they done in a 4 years of a war..frightened...what will come with croatian army liberating a country
@@HistoryHustle Milosevic was never a nationalist but a communist/socialist opportunist, criminal and charlatan most right-wing Serbs hate him and view him as traitor for selling the Serbian Krajina to Tudman and allowing the KFor to enter Kosovo and Metohija
Does anyone even realize that actually Yugoslavia dissolved peacefully? In 2003 or 2006, the only 2 states composing Yugoslavia, Serbia and Montenegro, decided to separate peacefully, and they did separate peacefully. There were no Yugoslav Wars in 1990s. It is false to call the wars in Croatia and Bosnia as "Yugoslav wars", since it implies that the conflict took place within Yugoslavia, rather than in those new, independent and soverign states. Once a country declares independence, every future conflicts in its territory should be recognized as involving that new and independent entity. Once Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia declared their independences, they considered themselves separate and sovereign states, different from Yugoslavia, with its own and different constitutions, state symbols, diplomatic relations, sport teams, border control, etc.
@@HistoryHustle I believe many people are using wrong words when discussing Yugoslavia, such as "Yugoslavia collapsed," "Yugoslavia fell apart," "Yugoslavia crumbled," or "Yugoslav bloody wars." These descriptions are false. Because: 1. Although Yugoslavia lost a few regions when they declared independence, this doesn't mean Yugoslavia collapsed or ceased to exist. Serbia and Montenegro never declared or voted for independence from the SFRY. They remained in Yugoslavia, continuing as a reduced version of the country. This is similar to Ukraine's situation after losing Crimea in 2014, when Crimeans voted to separate from Ukraine. And Ukraine continued to exist, with reduced size. 2. In 2003, the Yugoslav parliament decided to restructure its constitution. It changed the country's name from "Yugoslavia" to "Serbia and Montenegro" which allowed the states to separate within three years. 3. The process of transitioning and rebranding from Yugoslavia (2003-2006) marked the peaceful, friendly, and diplomatic closure of the last chapters of Yugoslav history. For these reasons, I believe the accurate terms are: "In 2003, Yugoslavia peacefully transitioned, rebranded, renamed, retired, evolved or shifted into Serbia and Montenegro." These are the facts, and I am not fabricating anything. Most people are aware of this, but they forget to take these facts in detail. Each time Yugoslavia is mentioned, it is immediately associated with wars and genocide, events that did not occur in the SFR Yugoslavia or the SR Yugoslavia.
Thanks for sharing your insights. 1. Crimea was a smaller part of Ukraine, an island/peninsula, that they lost. Yugoslavia lost most of its territory and its government was changed. It is true that they way it fell apart went differently, but violence was there and I can consider it a collapse although every large country that falls apart does so differently. The USSR also collapsed without a shot fired practically. 2. That was formally the end of Yugoslavia. 3. The proces of seperation of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia went everything but peaceful.
Just see my main video if you don’t believe me how they really are and that we Bosniaks are victims and not the bad guys , Srebrenica ,and thousands of Bosniak women and young girls were raped in very brutal ways, Bosnia ,1992-1995.I will not forget nor forgive.✌️😢.Many girls did call me ugly when it’s not my fault ,( Poor Me ) many were very mean to me,mostly my own kind,but I can’t help it I feel sorry and I fight any evil any injustice this way at least…..
@@HistoryHustle So, after the Kosovo war, The Albanian UCK army crossed the border through the sar mountains and were a guerilla force in the mountains, after the 1st invasion was a catastrophe for them, They gathered a bigger force to invade Macedonia which got the settlements of Arachinovo others near Kumanovo and almost getting Tetovo. After the war going into the favor of the Macedonians, The UCK leaders would ask for peace and an agreement in Ohrid
@@HistoryHustle According to your video, Serbs started the war, they wanted independence in Krajina and R.Srpska from independent Croatia and Bosnia? Croats attacked the JNA base in Bjelovar ( read something about that attack) Srebrenica was a war crime because Serbian army shot the military prisoners and the number is not way near 8000 (more like 1000 and no women and children) Its not that simple as you described. How many Serbs now live in Sarajevo? How many Serbs now live in Krajina, Kosovo and Metohia? You said that the Serbs suppressed the Albanians in Kosovo and Metohia that they are majority there. That's far from the truth. Kosovo Albanians had their own school, universities, their language was official on Kosovo, and it was the richest part of Serbia back then. Again it's not that simple, but it's easier to say SERBS BAD ThEY WhAnT GrEaT SeRbIA.
Its quite clear actually. That man was very intelligent,he had 3 college graduations and when he reliazed that they will set him up to be convicted he managed to smuggle a poison into Haag. You could write a novel just on that subject. So he decided to die like a man,a Croat,instead of rooting in the cell. Now you can see his portayts all over the country,even in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
@@mihovilraboteg6160 I have to correct you on one very very important thing. THE MOST important thing. You said "So he decided to die like a man,a Croat,instead of rooting in the cell." NO. He was not captured. He volunteer to Haag, and spend years defending himself. At the time when he hear the verdicte, he already served 2/3 of prison time. So, he could walk home as free man. But he didn't want to live with title criminal. He said "Slobodan Praljak is not war criminal, with disdain I reject your verdict!"! and i drink poison to prove them wrong... It was a free man that drink poison, not prisoner that will rot in cell...
@@HistoryHustle yes, but you put from 1991 to 1992 which is not correct but also in that years was a war, and it endend in 1995 whit operation Oluja (Storm) what you have mentioned
This is why this short video about fall of Yugoslavia is bad idea. In this whole video make Serbs as the MAIN reason of Yugoslav war and somehow manage to miss events who later lead to this catastrophic war without winner. What about torture and killing of JNA soldiers and their families in Slovenia (1991), Dobrovoljača street in Sarajevo (1992) where many regrut soldiers were killed in agreed withdrawal which later led to Serbs siege of Sarajevo. On top of that the NATO bombing of Serbia (1999) you reduced it to only "strategic" bombing of Belgrade and Novi Sad but infact many cities were bomb without reason. Example of that is cassette bombing of center Niš where one pregnant woman died. You just continued western story about Yugoslav war and politic about "bad Serbs". You should add just 5 more minutes to this video and include this thing mentions above. Nothing start just like that, there is always reason for something this horrific such as Yugoslav war....
Just see my main video if you don’t believe me how they really are and that we Bosniaks are victims and not the bad guys , Srebrenica ,and thousands of Bosniak women and young girls were raped in very brutal ways, Bosnia ,1992-1995.I will not forget nor forgive.✌️😢.Many girls did call me ugly when it’s not my fault ,( Poor Me ) many were very mean to me,mostly my own kind,but I can’t help it I feel sorry and I fight any evil any injustice this way at least…..
be nice if all your facts were true but its clear you're very pro-Serb and very anti-Croatia. There are so many false facts in your presentation it hurts to even listen and as some else mentioned Jugoslavia (actual meaning is united slavs) is pronounced with a Y sound not a J. Maybe you should stick to doing Dutch history something you might know more about.
I will just say Vukovar in year 91. What the Serbs do? Con. camps are born in 91. To destroy Croats... Croats Storm and Flash save muslims in Bihać and destroy Serbs army. This leed to peace...
Man first time since ww2 ther where camps to extrrminate croats opend in 1991 after genoside of vukovar and the entite conflict was inside croatia so offcorse ther was some payback in 1995 but in no way in size or cruelty serbs confucted them self in croatia or bosnia you oversimplifay too much
@@HistoryHustle well I was kid but ehh I kinda don't want to get reminded of these things... We hate each other but steel we are in other ways same people Rakija, Burek, Cevapi !!!
@@brothergam1n9yt21 I agree with you with that! Just listed 3 of my favourite things. My mother is Serb but my Kum is Croatian and the only person I know who has the power to shut my mother up.
Croatian War of Independence lasted from 1991 till 1996. They way you just skimmed over that war was a bit disappointing. As compared to the Bosnian war
Great breakdown, most facts mentioned and decently objective. The only remark is you just spared one sentence on crimes Bosnian Muslims did in Bosnia over Serbs,basically just saying they did them, not mentioning places or number of victims , but you did very elaborate report about Srebrenica (a horrible crime). Not sure if you even mention there were fights between Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Muslims.
Also you said there was a bombing of Serbian military infrastructure by NATO in Kosovo and in Serbia and Montenegro ... But during the 78 days and nights of bombing, 50,000 destructive missiles were fired in 30,000 air raids. 2,500 people died, 500 civilians, including 79 children. 12,500 inhabitants were wounded. The infrastructure, the economy, schools, health centers, cultural monuments, and media houses were badly destroyed. So not only strategic targets but children hospitals,maternity hospitals, civilian trains and refugee convoys (Albanian refugees btw) There was no approval from the security council of the UN for this military attack. And they used cluster bombs and depleted uranium.During the NATO bombing campaign against Yugoslavia in 1999, cluster bombs were extensively used. According to reports, 1,765 cluster bombs were dropped, containing approximately 295,000 sub-munitions. These bombs were deployed in 105 zones across the country, primarily in Serbia and Kosovo. NATO's use of depleted uranium (DU) during its bombing campaign has raised significant health and environmental concerns. Depleted uranium, used in armor-piercing munitions, can contaminate the environment and pose long-term health risks, including cancer and kidney damage, due to its chemical toxicity and radioactivity. Cleanup efforts and studies have been ongoing to assess and mitigate the impact on affected areas and populations. Consequences An estimated 2,500 cluster bombs failed to explode and remain unexploded in the ground, posing a significant threat to civilians. Human Rights Watch condemned NATO’s use of cluster bombs, citing their indiscriminate nature and potential to cause harm to non-combatants, particularly in urban areas. Incidents One notable incident occurred on May 7, 1999, when Dutch F-16s dropped cluster bombs on Niš Airport, resulting in civilian casualties. This event was the most serious involving cluster bombs and civilian deaths during the NATO bombing campaign.resulted in the deaths of 16 people, including a pregnant woman, and injured 18 others, with around 300 bombs, known as "yellow killers," being dropped in the vicinity of the University, the bus station, and the market. Ongoing Threat A decade after the bombing campaign, around 160,000 people in Serbia were still at risk from unexploded cluster bombs, scattered across 15 municipalities in the southern region near the Kosovo border. The Norwegian People’s Aid organization reported that these bombs were buried 50-70 centimeters underground, posing a permanent threat to those living in the affected areas.
Please check before telling that Kosovo Albanian was discriminat,they have school, university ,TV,radio station, books,on their Albania language. Problems were they have average 10 kids and whole Yugoslavia has to give them money. Albanian come after ww2 like refugees from poor country Albania and become majority. Kosovo and Metohija is Holy Land of Serbs. The most Orthodox Christians Church are there and Head of Serbian Church ⛪️ is there..Serbs History is so huge and if you want to find out really true ,you must read a lot of books 📚. I'm Serbian Historian and please ask someone for hand if you are not 100% sure about topic you are making stories. Sorry for not good my English.
Here one hears too many Western political interpretations from the Western media of the time. Those political interpretations are maintained in political life even today because Western politics still has its interest in it, and the consequences of that time and the decisions of that time are still current and problematic. The truth on the ground was much different, but correcting entrenched beliefs (especially those beliefs that are in the interest of Western governments produced in the Western media) is always a futile effort.
I've Heard The terrible stories from my uncle about the war, even video's of serbs torturing croats from the footage they took from them when the croats massacred the Cetniks in slavonia. no Cetnik (bjeli orlovi) was spared.
I was Croatian soldier, and I think that this video is on nice way show situation on fields, in few minutes. I think that croatian victorys (and Army of BiH) in operations Maestral and Južni potez ended War in Bosnia and Hercegovina, because Serbs are defeted and forced to sign Dayton agreement. I think this is very importmant. Sir, your video is very good!
@@HistoryHustle of course, Serbs denied his defet on battlefield, as always do...but new born Croatian Army defeted all serbian armys west of river Drina in operations Bljesak, Oluja, Maestral and Južni potez. This is fact, this is history... At end of 1995. Croatian Army made concentration of his forces in Easter Slavonia and Serbs 11. Corps disarmed himself and Serbian ministry of foregin affairs Milan Milutinović sign Erdut agreement, wich provided come back of Vukovar to his homeland, in Croatia. THIS IS END OF WAR! If Serbs not surended then, Croatian Army will take Vukovar and rest of Croatian land by force, no doubt about this... ...we were ready...and willing..
@@HistoryHustle At the beginning of the video it sounds like the Serbs in Croatia are being persecuted and "forced" to revolt. It just so happens that I was living in Zagreb at the time, I remember it being just the opposite. Serbian nationalists, who received weapons from the Yugoslav Federal Army, were the ones who attacked the Croats in Kraina. The police station in Knin was attacked and looted, Croatian women in Knin were raped.
When the police station in Knin was looted, police helicopters were sent from Zagreb to assist the police in Knin. The Yugoslav army sent fighter jets to force the police to fly back to Zagreb, remember this very well. You don't mention that in your video.
Serbs invaded,Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, never the other way round. Hmmm Oh and to claim Kosovo Pole because you LOST a war 🤣, don't you need to win to control said territory? God willing the Republik Srpska won't cause another war, the Bosniaks will be coming of an age where they may want Serbs out of Bosnia. Let's all hope peace prevails. Hate just shows ignorance. Love shows the finest of humanity. ✌
as a superficial exposition by historians of such a complex and complicated course of history, one simply cannot believe that this was said by a man who has chosen the path of history for life
What is unfortunately not explained is the cause of the wars in the 1990s. The cause was that the Western world felt that Yugoslavia's economic system had to change to a free Western Market economy. This transformation was accompanied by large loans from the IMF and World Bank, which eventually could no longer be raised, leaving the states within Yugoslavia without financial support from the central leadership. This caused widespread unrest. Unrest was also deliberately stoked by the CIA.
@@HistoryHustle In my opinion, it was indeed a conspiracy. Ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia became a reality only after the 'shock therapy' of the IMF and the World Bank had done its job." Michel Chossudovsky demonstrates this in his book " "Globalization of Poverty & the New World Order."
@@HistoryHustle Indeed, it was a preconceived plan of the Reagan administration to kill the current economic system and take Yugoslavia out of the sphere of influence of the Soviet Union. See National Security Decision Directive 54. That was the cause of all the misery that followed.
@@HistoryHustle UN "peacekeeping" was nothing more than post-war colonialism. In the name of global capital, borders have been redrawn, law codes rewritten, industries destroyed, financial and banking systems dismantled and social programs eliminated.
@@HistoryHustle UN "peacekeeping" was nothing more than post-war colonialism. In the name of global capital, borders have been redrawn, law codes rewritten, industries destroyed, financial and banking systems dismantled and social programs eliminated.
Vse kar sem ti hotel povedati je, da na Balkanu pač nikoli ne bo miru. Mi smo plemena. Živimo v Srednjem veku in se temu primerno tudi obnašamo. In ne, Nizozemci niste krivi za Srebrenico. To je del naše »kulture«.
@@HistoryHustle was it not dutch UN peace keepers who danced with the genociders? The story is the same with many troops from the UN that were 'peacekeeping' rwanda.
Pa imas pravo, teritorijalci koliko su bili pohlepni, trgovali su sa vama i muslimanima sa naftom, oružjem pa i teritorijom. To je jedno vrijeme bilo prekinuto kada su na ispomoć u Krajini stacionirani vojnici Republike Srpske. Nažalost, trgovina je opet bila zastupljena nakon odlaska vojnika RS.
Watch the movie whistleblower. Based on true story about how the UN was turning a blind eye on how the mafia was using young women from the war as sex slaves. A friend that is Bosnian confirmed it to be true. So yeah the UN is USELESS!!!!!
@@HistoryHustle just not enough nuance. As someone from the region of Yugoslavia, there’s just a lot you didn’t touch on, your tales seem mainly in line with CNN and BBC approved talking points with regards to the war
@@HistoryHustle During the span of your whole 12 or 13 minute long video you dedicated exactly 6 seconds of it to talking about what the Muslims had done to the Serbs and Croats inside of Bosnia that’s not enough you clearly did not pay enough attention or bother to look up what crimes the foreign fighters known as the mujahadeen did inside of that country to Christians and that shows because of your biases. you also failed to mention anything significant about the beginning of the Kosovo war you said “clashes between Yugoslav forces and KLA resistance” well that is simply not true the war started when Kosovo liberation Army terrorists began killing Serbian police and military inside of Kosovo they wanted to kill police in order to invoke a response from the Yugoslav government in order to petition for Western support as the west had readily supported the independence of Croatia Bosnia in the others so you are not giving a full picture as to what actually happened in the Yugoslav wars this is such a large topic that requires careful attention in detail and you did it no justice as I said previously you seem to have only outlined the CNN and BBC approved talking points with regards to the war and how it happened
@@HistoryHustle You seemed to simply chalk it up to “Serbian ultranationalism” and this pseudo intellectual idea of a “greater Serbia” that was supposedly being carefully managed in unison by all Serbian politicians is ridiculous. There is no evidence of this. The Serbs in Croatia didn’t deserve what treatment they received and it’s a shame how little you speak about it here. The Serbs in modern day Croatia were there for CENTURIES. The ones that wanted to create an independent entity in the 1990s with Krajina were rightfully in fear of what being inside of another “independent state of Croatia” would be like, given that just 45 years prior there was nearly 1 million Serbs killed inside this Croatian state who’s ACTUAL OFFICIAL government policy for Serbs was to kill, expel and convert all Serbs, which again, cannot he said for this fictitious fascist Serbian Goliath you portray in your video.
50% is true of this video. You never mention that first people who were killed in Yugoslavia in all parties of country were Seebian by ustash which was Croatian and Bosnian Muslims who were during WWII 85% ustash and killed nearly mention Serbs. Next to the Srebrenica there is Serbian village Bratunac where is grave of more than 3.500 kids, women, older killed by Muslims army from Srebrenica before was Serbs Army strike.
Learn more about Serbian history:
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in 2008 I did a trip around all of the former yugoslavian countries with my kids... It was a great trip, even though the scars of war were still present. Driving through Bosnia in particular. The only place I didn't go was Kosovo. All of the people were extremely freindly, with the exception of an over zealous cop in Belgrade. The day we reached Belgrade there was a bit of a riot, because Serbs were protesting the capture of Radovan Karadžić. We did meet a really great Serb guy called Max though, who helped us and was at pains to show that despite a lot of bad press, that the Serbs are not bad guys. My kids were 8 and 11, and it was a great holiday, with a bit of education and history throughout.
I hope you get to have your trip.. good luck, and I love your accent alsho.
@@jonny46ba Thanks for sharing!
Hi, could you cover Macedonia in WWII please?
@@makedon888 Recently did!
AS A SERBIAN COMBAT VETERAN WHO FOUGHT IN THE CROATIAN AND BOSNIAN WARS FIND YOUR BIASED DUTCH WESTERN BULLSHIT APPAULING...CHERRY PICKING TRUTHFUL FACTS IN ORDER TO APPEASE YOUR SERB HATING FANS IS CRIMINAL
It hurts my ears to hear Jugoslavia pronounced with the english j sound. Its pronounced like a y. You-go-slav-eeh-yah.
Thanks for the correction, next time I will do better.
@@HistoryHustle it's good, Tito was a jew and jewgoslavia was a jewish creation
@@deicidal88 you obviously don’t understand the several religions involved
@@deicidal88 Wasn't Jewish.
@@deicidal88 the hell are you talking about
Džugoslavian here, such correct and true explanation of our mutual killings. Keep up a great work!
Thanks for your reply.
My ass*
Very well informed and objective summary!
[Says someone who unfortunately lived through these events,
and hates nationalistic interpretations of each side.]
Thanks for your reply. Can you tell us about your experiences during that time (if you want of course).
@@HistoryHustle I can. I have nothing to hide.
I'm Serb from Vojvodina (Northern Serbia), and I was drafted to Federal Army in September 1991, sent to Herzegovina. Shortly after our arrival, fighting started in multiple places in Croatia, including Dubrovnik theater, where we were deployed, after finishing our training.
As you correctly stated: by 1992 Federal Army was heavily dominated by Serbs, as most of others were already gone (deserted). Despite all that, regular Federal troops (19y/o conscripts) were the most efficient and disciplined, comparing to reserves, volunteers and paramilitaries, who were often drunken, ill-trained buffoons, that we had to constantly babysit, prevent them burning everything or injuring themselves and others. Luckily, there was almost no civilians left where we were.
By UN decree, Federal army had to withdraw all it's troops from Croatia and all Serbian citizens from Bosnia by May 15th, 1992. My unit was one of the last to leave as we were almost completely encircled by Croatian troops. After withdrawal, we left all our weapons to Bosnian-Serbian friends who had to stay there, under command of general Mladic. My lieutenant was one of them and he died two weeks later.
For me, that was enough of war. I served rest of my term in my hometown, but never responded to call for reserve after that. In 1998, after realizing that conflict on Kosovo will further escalate, I took a job offer and left a country for good.
@@HistoryHustle Given my age and proximity of my hometown to Vukovar, Croatia, I have dozens of schoolmates, friends and cousins, who participated in this needles conflict and had very similar stories (some much worse: POWs, getting wounded, etc). In 1995, my cousin died during operation 'Storm', as him and his unit refused to withdraw from our ancestral homeland (Dalmatia). I also had cousins who fought on Croatian side.
So for me personally, this really was 'brother against brother' war. :(
@@Sleepery22 Thanks for sharing your story. Respect for that. I also really hate this 'brother against brother' war.
@Sleepery22: Many thanks for sharing this with us. Respect. I wish you all the best!
Croatian war for indenpendence was from 1991.( when first armed conflicts started) to 1995. ( that Tudjman-Milosevic agreement didn't end the war in 1992. , there were a lot conflicts going on in Croatia after that )
But also before first armed conflicts there was a serb rebellion that has started back in 1990.
There were operations, by Croats to free their land ,in 1992. ,93. ,94. And operation "flash" then "storm" in 1995.
Thanks for sharing this information.
Wow, these 2 parts of the Yugoslavian history were very well-explained. I now have a clear view of these terrible wars that happened right in my backdoor when I was a child, as I am Romanian. I never really understood what happened but now I do. Thank you very much for that!
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Hmm,doesn't seems that Slovenia and Croatia are in your backdoor..
I'am Croat... and i was young but I won't forget the war in YU and for me it was just one (90-99). My city of Zadar was surrounded for a couple of years and (untill US green light and operation Storm/Oluja) sometimes we were in shelters for a 6 months in one piece without electricity and water. We were lucky that city of Zadar was under Italy state for many years and we had a complexes of concrete fortification trenchs and MG nests at the city's frontiers because that was Italy Royal State border with Kingdom of SHS (slovenians,croats,serbs. That area was wery important for Knin and Kraijna Serbs because if Zadar falls Croatia's south would be cut of the main state in two parts. My childhood game was searching hot "shrapnel s) after bombardment. I forgive but i didn't forget! Big shame for Holland because of Srebrenica, not Holland the whole EU and US(read NATO)! They could stop that at its roots '91 just with one airplane carrier from Adriatic. After Vukovar ( make some video about that city) Krajina Serbs from Knin did do some butchering in the villages around Zadar...we were next. Without old Italy border they would wipes us out like Vukovar.
Very interesting to read. Thank you for taking the time to write this down.
@@HistoryHustle...comming next week to Holland. Maybe we could drink one beer somewhere. I'am not joking... I like to talk about history. Very good videos but for example i was there in the '90.
Your story is a product of a imagination or old wifes tales, Krajina army was never allowed to get close and when they did order was sent to retrieve back..
You can say that Croatian war for independence lasted all the way to 1995, after Operation Strom took place, but the peaceful reintegration took place in 1998, and that's when all Croatian territory was in hands of Croatia (I'm from Croatia)
@@gabilipogabilipo2739 thanks for sharing.
Pretty solid video. Deserves more views
Thanks! If you want to help me with that feel free to share :)
at 10:02 you say the Serbian army used excessive violence ? Is British use of force in N. Ireland perceived the same? Spanish in Baskia and Catalonia? Please make a general statement on countries protecting their souveregnity.
This is whataboutism. The video isn't about the British, nor the Spanish.
Thanks again for your great video. And your introduction at the beginning is brilliant.
I have a sentiment about us, who live in former parts of Yugoslavia, having a trauma like a couple after a bad divorce. There is hate and only bad things about others are spoken.
The sad thing is national elites of nations victimize their own nation but slander the others. This approach is used for education, where each country has its own version of history. I am not really optimistic in that regard, hopefully, it will be better.
There is an initiative from the historians from the former republics working really professionally. The internet documentation is unfortunately in Serbo-Croat language. I enjoy listening to the historical facts... They also have the initiative for saving history (against political pressures). One of the members of that initiative said due to conflicting histories taught at schools in different former republics as dangerous - the political elites might prepare ideology for the next war.
All Yugoslav wars are documented really well. The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia collected really a lot and these wars are the most documented.
Thanks for your reply and taking the time to share your insights with us.
So so sad... I feel sorry for the innocent children in this conflict. My dad was on holiday in Italy when the Yugoslav wars began and he could hear the faint bombs falling everywhere. Thanks for explaining this, in Luxembourg nobody really cares or talks about it which is sad and so I didn't really know what happened. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Very interesting to read how your father was 'so close' to this war.
@@HistoryHustle he heard JNA and serb bombs hitting croatian towns btw
hahah he could hear bombs in Italy and Croatia is on other side of adriatic sea? XD And i was kid in refugee camp in Croatia and i never heard any bomb hahaha
Many mistakes has made in this video. I'm born there, lived-in during war and after war.What I so it 50% opposite of true story. Sorry but that's facts Before war started at Kosovo ,Albanian terrorist killers killed,raped, kidnapped and butchered many Serbs citizens and sold internal organs .And Kosovo is part of Serbia according UN resoluti resolution 1244.NATO 💣 bombarding Serbia land with unrich URANIUM. Build military base the biggest in whole region.
@@filiphlupic1582you say that like croatia didn't commit genocide with the Nazis in ww2 🤣🤣
Uhh i think the croatian war was 1991-1995 correct me if im wrong
Thanks for the correction.
Such a complicated subject with a lot of emotion still felt. Keep em coming.
Thank you for the comment. The wounds are indeed fresh.
Albanians were not oppressed. Some rights to Kosovo were revoked, but still Albanians had more rights than Basques in Spain or France. Albanians just wanted to secede from Serbia and later Macedonia. Even during socialist era there were individuals in Kosovo or in Albanian emigration who advocated it. Main difference is that Spain is member of NATO, while Yugoslavia/Serbia was not.
Thanks for sharing this.
Albanians were oppressed as hell! Albanian language wasn't even allowed, while Basque and Catalan are allowed.
Milosevic was a true oppressor, he wanted to put Serbian policy all over Yugoslavia, and that's the real reason for the breakup.
finally a peaceful comments section about the yugoslav wars
Isn't it wonderful :)
@@HistoryHustle yea it is
My futher was in first 60 soldiers he was in special forces (black mambas) in croatian army
Thanks for sharing.
Legenda
@@josipkevric6828 bome je vjeruj mi nemogu biti ponosniji ne samo na njega nego i ostatak obitelji koji imaju ratnu povjest
@@black_mamba4409 razumijem te meni se tata borio kod novigrada i isto se osječam jako ponosan
3:41 Can you elaborate your claim that the end of "ethnic campaigns", as you call them, led to the decrease of violence?
If the American educational system has failed you, this man has got your back
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Unfortunately, he does not tell what was the actual cause of the atrocities committed by all sides
Did you ever made that follow-up video on Thom Karremans and Dutch troops?
Not yet. Still have to travel to the area. Maybe this Summer.
@@HistoryHustle Great, would love to see Dutch historian perspective on this. Cheers.
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Few facts. Serbs rebelled on new Croat state cos they got terrible experience from 1941 when Croat state murdered 700 000 mostly women children and elderly people and 1991 Croat state reborn with same principles and same goal and what's worse Croats had help and support from Germany as same in 1941. Sarajevo wasn't surround by Serbs force it is fact that all villages around Sarajevo living ethnically Serbs. In Srebrenica happened that 1200 muslim war prisoners were murdered as revenge against them murdered 3500 Serbs in villages around Srebrenica. There was so many war crimes in Bosnia from all sides but only Serbs were accused and trialled only because USA politician needs Muslims as victims than US army may save them. In that time USA made wars against so many muslim countries and to support Bosnian muslims was perfect answer for them. also Serbs are historically connected with Russia and one more reason to made Serbs as bad guys. I waa in Croatia and Bosnia from 91 to 95 that's how I got this facts.
I understand. Thanks for sharing this.
Why it is impossible to move the Dutch translation in this and some other videos?
I have no Dutch subs sorry.
Unfortunately this Brakeup happened. But Slobodan Milošević never want a Greater Serbia, he was Pro-Yugoslav and he want a Short version of Yugoslavia. Some political figures want Greater Serbia and that was Vojislav Šešelj (He was in Hague for war crimes) and Vuk Drašković. Slobodan Milošević never want Greter Serbia and that only says that Yugoslavia remain untill 2003 and he wasn't change that name, we still had same anthem "Hej Sloveni" and i think that all says about them. And one more thing Hague when he prosecuted Slobodan Milošević, the Hague doesn't have evidence for telling Slobodan was a war crimes, he also putted some Sancions on Bosnian Serbs during Bosnian War.
So difficult to understand whole this Brake up.
I am afraid that you're wrong. Milosevic really took all in to create greater serbia. It was the mainstay of serbian political thought from 1918... and, unfortunately, it still is
@@tihomirbradic6026 That country doesn't change name to Serbia in that time, they was still called Yugoslavia since 2003, so Greater Serbia wasn't in plan at all, only in plan to other politicians who was in opposition like Šešelj and Drašković.
Milošević agreed the etnic cleasing of Croats. He asked Ŝešelj to do the 'dirty job' in Vukovar area. He was a nationalist. Milošević wanted Slivenia to leave Jugoslavia.
My dad was solider on croatian side. He fought in many operations including Oluja (Storm) and Bljesak
Thanks for sharing. I hope you did have a good life after it?
Bljesak btw means Flash
You got to be proud of him, especially for 200K refugees from Croatia? Bravo for your soldiers !
Those who accepted Croatia stayed.
I don't understand the concept of guilt here?@@jbbmiirjgtg
@@GorZugec You would understand if you were refugee from Serbia. Oh yes, there were no croat refugees from Serbia, ever...
the Croats abolished the equality of Serbs and Croats in the then federal unit of Croatia. Dissatisfied with this decision, the Serbs decided to call a referendum in which as much as 94% of the population in that territory voted for the independence of the autonomous province of Krajina. Croats, although not yet internationally recognized, are launching police operations arresting Serb representatives and municipal board leaders. At that time, Serbs showed dissatisfaction with the proclamation of the Republic of Serbian Krajina. Then the first brigade of the Croatian army was created, which occupied Vukovar and several other places in the Krajina, after which the territorial defense of the Krajina liberated them with help yugoslav army.
Still controversial topic it seems.
@@HistoryHustle You clearly know nothing about this topic since you don't even bother to check how to pronounce the word Yugoslavia. hint, it does not begin with the letter G. Slobodan Milosevic was also exonerated in your globalist Hague kangaroo court. That still photo of the single gaunt refugee Bosniak next to the well fed fat Bosniak men at a refeugee camp (not a concentration camp which was exposed by a German civil engineer who builds fences for a living, no less) was cherry on the cake. You continue to perpetuate all the same narratives and lies that have been since uncovered and exposed about this topic for decades now, but you already knew that. FUCK YOUR LYING DUTCH MOUTH!
The neighbor below me is a Serb, I worked for a Serb, I have Serbian friends, I'm sorry if you lost your home, but those who didn't cause problems stayed.
Why did you leave?
You forgot to mention the protracted conflict between Bosnian and Croatian HVO forces between 1992 and 1994 when a peace treaty was signed between the two sides.
Please also note that the letter J actually sounds like Y in the the different languages.
Keep up the great work.
Thanks for sharing.
I was in lasva 1993 .busovaca , its was like a horror movie
There was 5th yugoslav war, macedonian war where albanian terrorists attacked macedonia
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What are you talking about?!
Watching this to prepare for my podcast.
Good luck 👍
Let’s say it’s a very simplified view from skipping a few key events. I will not engage in discussions about crimes because that was the source of all evil and an introduction to the spiral of evil.
Do not equate Tudjman and Milosevic. Neither their role is the same nor are their desires the same. This is especially true for Alija Izetbegović. The worst thing is that no one here is exclusively a victim or exclusively an aggressor. The only thing they have in common is that they were all losers in the end, especially considering the human casualties.
You skipped to say that the war in BiH stopped only when the Croatian army invaded and defeated the Serbian army after the "storm". The condition for that was the "Split agreement" between Croatia and BiH, signed by Tudjman and Izetbegovic. So the two "victims" came to their senses and realized that only together they could defeat the "aggressor".
Essentially a good approach without imposition because the damn history is very tangled in the balkans and the bills are not clean nor ever will be.
Maybe we should draw the line once and say; "Enough! what was was and remains behind us, we go from today clean and from the beginning as if there was nothing before"
Of course if that is possible.
Thanks for sharing your insights with us.
@@HistoryHustle Thank you very much! Unfortunately, the war caught me in its full force without any mercy, but with a little luck. My family mostly stayed alive. I was forced to fight for a bare life. I was in the 3rd Guards Brigade, fighting in eastern Slavonia near Osijek, Vinkovci and Vukovar. My unit lost 1/3 of its men in those battles but we kept our positions and were not broken through. I am aware that this is a very high price to pay for independence. But it was worth it and I would pay it again if I had to. You don't know what it was like to be a Croat in Yugoslavia, always second class and always guilty of something you are not really guilty of.
Before the very beginning of the war, my father (then dean of the Faculty of Electrical Engineering) and I (then a student of mathematics and physics) were blackmailed in the JNA newspaper and our arrest warrants were issued. It is a classic communist procedure of cleansing the undesirable by killing all potential suspects and disloyal respectable citizens and members of their families. Today, those criminals who published and encouraged it are hidden by some advanced states and parties. I am not asking for revenge, but only for the truth to be done, because that is enough for the masks of those "top performers of the situation" in the Balkans to fall. Then they would no longer be so popular and would not be such experts but what they are - instigators of war and crime. For me, those instigators are worse than those who kill. Those who kill are only useful fools and they would not exist without instigators. But the "advanced" instigators need a new war.
I don't hate anyone, one of my grandmothers is Orthodox and the other is Italian. One appetizer is French and the great-grandmother is German. I even have one Jewish grandmother and one Armenian grandmother. My wife has one Polish grandfather and the other a Hungarian. One great-grandmother is Romanian. Please tell me nicely what are our children then ??? In our Balkans, it is normal to mix like that, it is important that you are a good man. Then someone decided to pursue racial and ethnic purity, to make a "Greater Serbia" and a Serbian world. Unfortunately, we also have such fools with great Croatian, but fortunately too few and no one accepts them. Honestly, they also get too much media space. Foolishness !!! I'm asking you how I can hate someone. It’s like a Jew trying to be a Nazi - a contradiction by definition. oxymoron.
Your response really moved me. Thanks you very much for sharing this.
@@HistoryHustle I was motivated by the desire to explain to people what evil had happened here and that we did not want it again. It is terrible that small groups of extremists (when you add up all the extremists they do not exceed 1-2% of the total population) can start such a spiral of evil and throw so much shame on one nation.
Someone said that evil flourishes when good people do nothing against evil. You do it, you try to present it as it is and explain in a simplified acceptable way why it happens.
You do it better than I would because it’s hard for me to omit some “important” events that aren’t so important to you. That’s why it’s always better to have it done by a “stranger” - someone who can be objective and who personally doesn’t care about some things. Probably some controversial chapters of history should be studied and researched in this way.
Thank you!
I would just like to say one more thing. Croatian-Serbian relations were never simple, but until 1914 they were not as they are now. Before 1914, Serbs and Croats lived permanently under foreign rule and were aware that they had to help each other. When they finally got "their" state (Yugoslavia) things went wrong. Most likely because that state was created the wrong way both times. As a product of the “war booty” of a winner who thought he could do whatever he wanted there. That is why it was an occupation both times.
Thanks again!
@@Greensanctuary-c4w You write that Milosevic ordered the Serbian army not to interfere. That is only partly true. Let's say he ordered the attack on Croatia, what could he achieve?
He could attack only in a narrow area of Eastern Slavonia, and the entire area was heavily fortified and full of pasture fields. Whoever attacked there, the losses would be terrible. Do you think he could have sent an army to the copied parts of Banovina and Dalmatia? How long do you think it would take for that army to get there, develop into battle order and begin combat operations. You do NOT know because you listened to some babblings who have no idea. Real trained officers know that it is a huge logistical job and it takes 4-6 days. The HV already cut through the occupied areas on the second day, and the third day was followed by cleaning. The army that would come on the fourth day to attack the positions of the HV would encounter already dug-in positions and soldiers carrying the sense of victory and would suffer terrible losses and probably not do anything significant.
The most that any army of the Republic of Serbia could do is bombard civilians in Croatian cities. You guessed it would be equally won. With the difference that Croatia then had S300 systems and could reach far into Serbia.
In addition, Serbia was exhausted by sanctions.
Slobo acted much smarter than those who are inciting you would do.
Once the old man died everything went too hell
Tito? More or less yes.
Great work but please contact some local to help you out with names of people and places cause you're mispronouncing them
Yes, it is an older video. Thanks for watching Nikola 👍
I absolutely loved this set of videos prof Stefan on this beautiful and unfortunately war torn region of the world for so many years. The fall and break up of Yugoslavia is not talked about nearly enough in the classroom. I recently came back to the states from beautiful croatia and spent a lot of time in split and Zagreb. I wish I could have seen more of the region but I will be back someday soon hopefully to visit Slovenia and North Macedonia
Thanks for your reply, Nick!
mister uploader, i have only one question for you: where the guilt is supposed to be looked for - in cause or in consequence? I expect simple answer soon.
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@@HistoryHustle what? you dont understand the question?
Indeed.
@@HistoryHustle there you have explanation for making biased videos.
I also don't understand that question...
The titles in this video (and similar videos where something positive is said about Tito) are intentionally very wrong translated.
Please explain.
All the wars in Balkan have one thing common... its always the Serbs wanting a "Greater Serbia"... A good video in general but have to say for all the people who are wondering why Serbia didn't have a war with Slovenia and North Macedonia. The reason is there weren't large minority Serbs living there as in Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo.
Serbia played a key role in the wars.
As if the Croats didn't wanted a Greater Croatia
@@HistoryHustle And Albanians are not the only minority in Serbia. Look at the nothern part of Serbia where there are living many more minorities (with about Hungarian minority about 25 percent) and people get along and respect each other.
Serbia was ALWAYS the aggressor
Great video
Thank you!
You forgot to talk abouth the bosnian croats and how they also massacred some bosniacs
Hopefully I can cover more on this in the future.
Dont forget to thank Croats that prevented another Srebrenica in Bihac. And dont forget Bosniak crimes as well.
@@mbanjur 1. Don't forget Mostar
2. You can't compare the bosniak crimes (Scarce and not frequent) with croat crimes, which were systematic and far more brutal
thank you very much for this .. i tried on many videos regarding yugoslavia wars. this is the short and sweet clear one out of all.
Thank you! Nice to hear.
Same here
Interesting. I love history and I always wondered about these wars.
Glad you found it interesting, thanks for your reply.
Well said, glad to see you speaking about the Dutch peacekeepers. It was a shameful episode.
Wow, these times must have been tough on the people.😢 I knew about the war in the Yogoslavian region, but it was complex and confusing... now I understand it more. Thank you! I have been to Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Albania. The traces of the destruction could have been seen in Bosnia up today.
in all.. you missed yugoslavia completely, sorry.. it's about turks/constantinople/medieval serbia.. that's when multiple identities, land claims have roots.. that's what blew up.. islam/orthodox/catholic life views.. slav identity remained and kept 2 yugoslavias on life support. and face it.. noone wants to live with muslims. sounds disgusting, but it's just true. or with serbs for that matter..
This video was a general overview. I agree, there is much more to it.
Stefan why you erased my messages
I wrote true facts and is common knowledge for the Fanatic muslims which fought in Bosnia
I don' t accuse every muslim
I haven't erased your messages. Believe it was this platform itself. Can't help it.
@@HistoryHustle O.K sorry Stefan
Thus is Tough subject for me, as someone who's mother is Serbian (from Vojvodina) and have family and connections to all of other states, this was a real mess.
In another comment you state you're from both Ukrainian and Polish decent. I don't understand.
@@HistoryHustle I'm Serbian on my mothers side and Ukranian/Polish on my Fathers side
Okay I understand.
The was civil war in 2001 in macedonia between uck and macedonia goverment
Thanks for the additional information.
Sad ending for a country witch realied on "brotherhood and unity" people were oposed for civil war but politicians screwd them over...
Yes, indeed. I do not know if this war could've been prevented though. Perhaps if Tito had a strong successor and the communist bloc wouldn't fall it was perhaps possible...
This was not a civil war. It was a war of aggression and expansion by Serb forces, which included the JNA and paramilitary forces, to create a Greater Serbia. There was no war in Serbia (until NATO came much later). Milosevic wanted to be the next Tito and control all of Yugoslavia but Yugoslavia governed under a rotating presidency after Tito and times were changing in Europe with the fall of communism. War, however, was not inevitable as the idea was put forward for a confederation before independence was proclaimed but this was rejected by Milosevic. The breakup of Yugoslavia is seen as the last correction of the peace terms after WWI as this multi-ethnic state was created with half the people wanting centralization and half wanting decentralization but because of communism and Tito was not finalized until the 1990s.
@@chrishanzek8930 no one officially declared war on each other so it falls under civil war definition.
@@ccdsds3221 Although historically one declared war on another before military action, that rule no longer applies. Americans were shocked at Pearl Harbor because Japan did not declare war. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had no formal declaration to them for example.
@@chrishanzek8930 In October 2002, Congress authorized President Bush to launch a military attack against Iraq if he decides it is necessary.The declaration gives U.S. forces access to Afghan military facilities to prosecute “the war against international terror and the struggle against violent extremism. As for Japan, that was a part of WW2 theater, fascist countries didn't bother to declare wars since they ignored geneva convention every day and didn't care for international war. Armed conflicts are not classified as war therefore no country is guilty. To further prove my point international court found that nor Serbia or Croatia are to pay reparations or were directly involved in genocides etc... since there was no wa.
Btw your ustasa video about ndh was very good just keep up
Cheers 👍
Croatia's war of independence lasted from 90 to 95.. and before storm and flash there were many operations inbetween
How can you make a video about history and avoid very important facts?
SAO Kraina Searbs wanted to cut Croatia in half, they threw trees on the road and made blockades and made disorder and murder in the surrounding area
For example, Luka Modrić's grandfather was killed by Serbs from SAO Krajina.
You can see the Serbian way in the examples of Dubrovnik:
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Vukovar:
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What was done in Srebrenica at the hands of the Serbs was also happening around
Vukovar:
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As for The Flash and the Storm:
The Croatian army made a military action in a way to push out the rebels and not to kill them
the rebel Serbs had the choice of accepting Croatia as their country or leaving
The worst thing experienced by the rebel Serbs who left Croatia at that time was the Serbs from Bosnia and finally the Serbs from Serbia who refused to help them and mocked them.
You are trying to present Croats as violent, Croats have always only defended themselves.
When a special forces soldier who fought in 91-92 tells you
how did they get to the location where people's arms and legs were cut off and replaced position and with their heads on their chests.
And this is happening on Croatian territory, and the Croats did not enter Serbia and start causing problems
if you really are a professor of history, check the facts and try to think with your head
Does Croatia need anything from the Serbia, the answer is a simple: NO
Do the Serbia want something from Croatia? Oh look at the beautiful sea...
How would it be for you as a Dutch person if a Pole or a Turk told you that Limburg area is now ours because we live there?
They can have Limburg.
Yah ok Limburg is Cancer area so its not much to give. :)
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From your videos and your answer, I can see that you are some Serb pretending to be Dutch
And you have some frustrations about Croats.
My grandfather was a Partizan and lived in peace until 1991
Then my father had to leave his wife who was then dying of a brain tumor with children aged 8 and 5 to defend the country
And the best thing is that I have friends who are Serbs, but the country's politics always sees us as enemies
I think it is you who has frustrations. And you're not the only Balkan person that has unfortunately. Have a good day.
@@HistoryHustle Man you are telling lies and pretend to be true history???
What is wrong with you?
po tvojim pregledima i subskrejberima vidi se koliko znas o ovom ratu amzo... poz iz Srbije
English please.
@history hustle - stephan i enjoy ur videos and support ur channel. but as a bosniak im sorry to tell u but MANY of ur facts here are wrong...sarajevo for example where do u get the figure of 5000 civilians killed, 14000 alone were just snipered...so on and so on...very touchy subject for us all and i really think u should've done a little bit more in depth research here because i have found about 7-8 facts completly wrong and off...at same time i'm sure this chapter of history has so much missinformation since all 3 sides will tell 3 diff stories but the truth is also not far from the eye if u just dig a little deeper in it. but i'm sorry to tell u my friend, this video u made has a lot of zig zags in it :)
Thanks for your reply. Sources can be found in the description.
The war in Croatia has started in 1991. and ended in 1995. after miletery police operation 'Storm' ( Vojno-redarstvena operacija Oluja). After Storm we needed to decided about Estern Croatia a.k.a. Danube in areas nearest river Danube (Dunav). That area was decided resolved through peaceful reintegration and then was decided that the fallen city Vukovar and ocupated area by Serbian forses to be left to Croatia. Also ther was other great miletery police operations like 'Pirate' to liberate area near Zadar caled Maslenica another operation is 'Flash' for as Croats also wery important moment in our history.
There was many war crimes in triple sides (Croats, Serbs and Bosnian) and we all regret about all fallen victims in every war that has acured in any of our neighbouring countries.
I will also mention these words from our general Ante Gotovina and I quote "Rat pripada povjesti, okrenimo se budućnosti, svi zajedno." ( War belongs to history, let’s turn to the future, all together.) The words of our retired general of the Croatian Army, indicted for war crimes in 1995. in a storm operation that shattered the Great Serbian aggression against Croatia but proved innocent like other Croatian retired generals in The Hague in 2012 so they were released. Also in the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, we helped the Bosnian forces to get rid of Serbian tyranny as well. But overall the video is very instructive and interesting. My mistake if sad anithing wrong or if I offended somebody, again sory.
Thanks for sharing this information.
Nisi napisao kako je započeo rat u federalnoj jedinici Hrvatskoj?
Love your videos. Only one suggestion: in Yugoslavian languages, that J as in Jugoslavija, is ptonounced as y in you.
You-goslavia
Got it, thanks for your reply.
And Krajina (Krayina)
A bit biassed video, or at least informations you had, some things not mentioned...
Please, feel free to comment on what you missed. Will you let me know?
@@HistoryHustle Well in some moments you presentation is a bit biassed.
When you talk about Bosnian war, you mention only Serbian camps while Croats and Bosniaks had theirs also out of which i think Croats had the most prisoners with over 50 000. About Dutch soldiers, they didn't just watch how Serbs transported 7000 people, they kicked out 350 people out of their camp which Serbs than killed.
And in the Kosovo war you made most mistakes or failed o mention the most. You say that Serbian government opressed their language and culture which is not really true, while opression in that sense happened it was much earlier during Tito's Yugoslavia and since 1968 Kosovo Albanians full language and cultural rights the real problems stared 1981 when they asked to be a republic inside Yugoslavia. Also you say clashes with KLA started in 1998 but they started their actions in 1996. And you say that NATO intervened after reports of massacres when there was one massacre that was direct cause for NATO agression and thats Racak "massacre" or also know as Racak hoax, alleged massacre that was largely proven as blatant lies of William Walker who according to Finnish medical examener Helena Rane knowingly lied to the public.
When you talk about bombing, you say NATO bombed strategic sites in Belgrade, Nis and Novi Sad, I would like that you just to google it, but among the other's "strategic sites" there were monasteryes, every bridge in Serbia, passanger train, RTS TV house, passenger bus, RTV TV house, outdoors market in Nis, Chinese ambassy in Belgrade, hospital, maternity hospital, all major and some minor industrial buildings, chemical industry, oil rafinerys. Depleted Uranium was maybe also worth a mention and an interesting case with Italian soldiers.
And you can look into corruption of US officials, not for this video of course, like Wesley Clark and Madeleine Albright who were one of dessisionmakers at the time and Kosovo mining and telecomunications owners afterwards...
Thanks for your additional information. I realize there is indeed more to it and will cover this in a future video.
@@HistoryHustle Hi, Serb here,
1) In Craotia Serbs rebeled because of reviving Ustashe iconography after 1st elections. And unlawfull changes of constitution erasing their status as "constitutional people" (see also prior to that, Milosevic's unlawfull Anti-Beaurcratic Revolution).
After the radicalisation caused by war they didn't want to live in Croatia.
2)Simulataniously with violence against Croats in RSK, there was purging of Sebs from rest of Craotia, and lesser preassure on Croatian ressidents in Serbia. Showing only 1 graph makes it biased, because this events are directly connected.
3) Milosevic never had or adopted the idea of Greater Serbia. It is pushed by western propaganda. He never used the term, only when western journalists asked and he dismissed the idea as nonsence. Oposition leader Seselj was for it.
That story is everywhere in western books, sci-papers, media,... If one reads russian sourcess for example he will get totaly different picture.
Milosevic wanted strongest Yugoslavia possible with majority people supporting it, and for him to be in power.
He had montenegrian descent, but Montenegrin and Serb identities are somewhat overlaping.
4) Failed to mention "constitutioal peoples" of Bosnia in regards to independence referendum, and rejection of Carrington-Cutileiro plan, as direct cause of Bosnian war.
Nothing to do with Greater Serbia.
5) Kosovo war and NATO aggression part is very weak.
Yes many lies surfaced for western public, and it wasn't cause for aggression. It was low intensity war with low numbers of fatalities prior the aggression.
chomsky.info/humanism01/
th-cam.com/video/ljEAyryiwsg/w-d-xo.html
Later, under cluster bombs and guerilla attacks number of war crimes from yugoslav side did happen.
6) Milosevic was post-mortem exonorated couple of times by ICTY for war crimes.
www.globalresearch.ca/the-hague-tribunal-exonerates-slobodan-milosevic-again/5622787
It doesen't mean that he didn't steal 1 elections in 1996., others were not fair, persecuted opposition, shared guilt for tragic wars,...
Overall not bad video compared to others for understanding the whole mess.
Also, significant impact on events and processess had foreign factors. Mainly Germany and later USA. US declassifies it's secrets after 25 years. I hope it will us more insight on this subjects.
?????????????????????????????????? f There were only muslim and nazi Croatia propaganda.
from my point of view, without taking any sides, i can say that the Croats were entitled to their self determination and the creation of their independent state. What i don't understand, is why the Serbs were not allowed the same. The first political decision the new government of newly independent Croatia took, was to deprive the Serbs of their civil rights and constitutionally treat them as a minority, instead of trying to include them and make them feel safe in the new Croatian state. No wonder the Serbs decided they don't want to live in their lands as a minority and asked exactly what the Croats asked from Yugoslavia: the right to self-determination. Since Croatia was not willing to treat them as normal citizens of Croatia, and Croatian politicians waved in their faces the fascist symbols of Ustasha from WWII, i can't blame them for wanting to be separate. This was translated as "the greater Serbia" by Western Media, which is far from truth. Serbs wanted just what the rest of Yugoslav nations wanted too: the right of self-determination and to live under their own ethnic government. Overall, i think Tudjman, Milosevic and Izetbegovic were to blame for the chaos, because their political judgement was driven by nationalism and hate, instead of realism and democratic sentiments. Especially Milosevic and Tudjman, who had the guts to secretly meet and plan the division of Bosnia, in favor of Croatia and Serbia. I mean, Tudjman built all his argument that Croatia should keep its borders as they were during Yugoslavia, but when it came to Bosnia, it was also ok to annex the Hercegovina part to Croatia :) But that's what you get when you support fanatics, nationalists and crazy corrupted leaders: war.
Thanks for sharing your insights. It was a very messy situation.
indeed, it was. It seems that everyone were out of their minds back then. And it saddens me to see that even after so many examples history gave us that nationalism creates only hate and destruction, people still fall for it. @@HistoryHustle
Let's hope peace remains.
@@saas-lk2oe so why albanians werent allowed to make there own state and for self-determination in (kosovo)?
Serbian hypocracy as it best...
Serbs forbid albanian people to speak there language...using there minority rights and Status 1988 (antiburocratical revolution)...but you are whining about croats? Really?
While serbs in croatia started without any reason to occupy 1/3 of croatia and to kill and ethnic cleanse 200.000 croats and other non-serbs from lika, Kordun and banovina...
And These "ustasha" Symbols you are talking about (checkerboard for example) are older then whole serbian nation
Actually it's North Macedonia.
Now it is yes. When I recorded the video it was not.
@@HistoryHustle exactly. It's official name was F.Y.R.O.M.
Thanks.
I know im saying this a while later since the video was posted but The Croatian War Off Independance (Sometimes called the Homeland War) lasted since 1991-1995...and Croats didnt murder or torture citizens,Serbs did that.
Also my dad was in a small village Antin during the war,I can tell you more about his experiance if you want me to!
Anyways,I think this video is very clear and well explained...i give it 10/10 Rainbows 🌈✨👏
Thanks for your reply!
2021 and you still accuse Serbs of crimes, well that's disappointing...
@@drunken_hog Wth are you talking About
@@monikaknezovic5667 they did. Trust me, I know
@@volvoxfraktalion5225 I know to. Thank you tho ^^
Were do you find this lies... Dont talk about things thet you Don t understand... Half of this video is not truth
Please explain.
This is Serbian history, not Jugoslav, that is not the same... Look all countrys in ex Jugoslavia
Indeed, Serbia and Yugoslavia aren't the same.
Croatian War was from 1991 to 1995
I stand corrected.
It wasn't a very limited NATO bombing of Bosnian Serbs after Srebrenica that brought them to negotiating table and it wasn't the first NATO action against them either. It certainly had some influence, but much more important factor was Croatian forces liberating the whole of western Bosnia up to Banja Luka in autumn 1995. which led to collapse of Bosnian Serbian army.
Thanks for providing this info. Sure something to cover more indepth in the future.
Hahahah
I can't believe you're pronouncing Yugoslav (Jugoslav) as 'j' Jugoslav. It's pronounced with an 'y' Yugoslav dude!!
I'm sorry but the 'j' Jugoslav kept hurting my ears
Mistake. Its an older one. Relax and watch a new one.
Never again Yugoslavia long live Croatia
Can't say the NDH was a success though..
@@HistoryHustle no but im proud on today Croatia
Hope to visit Croatia this Summer.
@@samocovek9382 If you keep telling that to ypurself it will not become a reallity. Partisans were founded in Croatia,1941 on the same date as the invasion of Soviet union took place. We freed ourselves so please cut the crap. Why are you Serbs still so oppsesed with us?
Kaži ti meni koji srbi su napravili Hrvatsku idiote maloumni opet ti pričaju laži pa naravno kad ste ljubomorni bolji smo od vas u svakom smislu osim u lažima izgubili ste rat nije ništa vaše izgubili ste kosovo jadni ste
4:09 Great Serbia? Slobodan Milosevic was communist, he just love yugoslavia... In federal republic od Yugoslavia named Croatia living 750 000 Serbs and in first years of war exeplled 350 000 serbs from that Republic. In Krajina other 400 000 serbs was going out or expelled in croatian criminal military operation named oluja 95'
He became a nationalist and used the communist party to rise through the ranks.
IN republic of Croatia was never more then ..rafly10%of serbian people in 1990...some 86/87% oc croats...and some 3/4% of bosniaks, italians , hungarians, slovaks, slovins roma........and others.
Half of them wich lived in cytiees are still here...as most of my neugbers...of which many was fought against idea of a Great Serbia
Another half which lives on a country side...mountain reagion...yust follow the leadership of so called "Kraina"....knowing for crimes they done in a 4 years of a war..frightened...what will come with croatian army liberating a country
@@HistoryHustle Milosevic was never a nationalist but a communist/socialist opportunist, criminal and charlatan most right-wing Serbs hate him and view him as traitor for selling the Serbian Krajina to Tudman and allowing the KFor to enter Kosovo and Metohija
Americans and england was war criminal. That country bombing my country 91-99 but you try in Republika Srpska and you eat sheet.
Živjelo je 18% 91' godine
Does anyone even realize that actually Yugoslavia dissolved peacefully? In 2003 or 2006, the only 2 states composing Yugoslavia, Serbia and Montenegro, decided to separate peacefully, and they did separate peacefully.
There were no Yugoslav Wars in 1990s. It is false to call the wars in Croatia and Bosnia as "Yugoslav wars", since it implies that the conflict took place within Yugoslavia, rather than in those new, independent and soverign states. Once a country declares independence, every future conflicts in its territory should be recognized as involving that new and independent entity.
Once Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia declared their independences, they considered themselves separate and sovereign states, different from Yugoslavia, with its own and different constitutions, state symbols, diplomatic relations, sport teams, border control, etc.
Yugoslav = South Slavic. The wars were fought over there. You hang on minutiae.
@@HistoryHustle Macedonians were/are both South Slavs, and part of former Yugoslavia. And no war, no JNA, peaceful like heaven
There were multiple wars in former Yugoslavia, which makes them Yugoslav Wars. The fact there was no such a thing in Macedonia is irrelevant.
@@HistoryHustle I believe many people are using wrong words when discussing Yugoslavia, such as "Yugoslavia collapsed," "Yugoslavia fell apart," "Yugoslavia crumbled," or "Yugoslav bloody wars." These descriptions are false.
Because:
1. Although Yugoslavia lost a few regions when they declared independence, this doesn't mean Yugoslavia collapsed or ceased to exist. Serbia and Montenegro never declared or voted for independence from the SFRY. They remained in Yugoslavia, continuing as a reduced version of the country. This is similar to Ukraine's situation after losing Crimea in 2014, when Crimeans voted to separate from Ukraine. And Ukraine continued to exist, with reduced size.
2. In 2003, the Yugoslav parliament decided to restructure its constitution. It changed the country's name from "Yugoslavia" to "Serbia and Montenegro" which allowed the states to separate within three years.
3. The process of transitioning and rebranding from Yugoslavia (2003-2006) marked the peaceful, friendly, and diplomatic closure of the last chapters of Yugoslav history.
For these reasons, I believe the accurate terms are: "In 2003, Yugoslavia peacefully transitioned, rebranded, renamed, retired, evolved or shifted into Serbia and Montenegro."
These are the facts, and I am not fabricating anything. Most people are aware of this, but they forget to take these facts in detail. Each time Yugoslavia is mentioned, it is immediately associated with wars and genocide, events that did not occur in the SFR Yugoslavia or the SR Yugoslavia.
Thanks for sharing your insights.
1. Crimea was a smaller part of Ukraine, an island/peninsula, that they lost. Yugoslavia lost most of its territory and its government was changed. It is true that they way it fell apart went differently, but violence was there and I can consider it a collapse although every large country that falls apart does so differently. The USSR also collapsed without a shot fired practically.
2. That was formally the end of Yugoslavia.
3. The proces of seperation of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia went everything but peaceful.
You forgot to mention the conflict in Macedonia in 2001, the smallest and the last of the Yugoslav wars.
Check.
Just see my main video if you don’t believe me how they really are and that we Bosniaks are victims and not the bad guys , Srebrenica ,and thousands of Bosniak women and young girls were raped in very brutal ways, Bosnia ,1992-1995.I will not forget nor forgive.✌️😢.Many girls did call me ugly when it’s not my fault ,( Poor Me ) many were very mean to me,mostly my own kind,but I can’t help it I feel sorry and I fight any evil any injustice this way at least…..
The 2001 Macedonian Insurgency: Am I a joke to you?
Please explain.
@@HistoryHustle So, after the Kosovo war, The Albanian UCK army crossed the border through the sar mountains and were a guerilla force in the mountains, after the 1st invasion was a catastrophe for them, They gathered a bigger force to invade Macedonia which got the settlements of Arachinovo others near Kumanovo and almost getting Tetovo. After the war going into the favor of the Macedonians, The UCK leaders would ask for peace and an agreement in Ohrid
This is history according to CNN and BBC. It's a shame I thought you are more objective.
Please explain.
@@HistoryHustle According to your video, Serbs started the war, they wanted independence in Krajina and R.Srpska from independent Croatia and Bosnia? Croats attacked the JNA base in Bjelovar ( read something about that attack) Srebrenica was a war crime because Serbian army shot the military prisoners and the number is not way near 8000 (more like 1000 and no women and children) Its not that simple as you described. How many Serbs now live in Sarajevo? How many Serbs now live in Krajina, Kosovo and Metohia? You said that the Serbs suppressed the Albanians in Kosovo and Metohia that they are majority there. That's far from the truth. Kosovo Albanians had their own school, universities, their language was official on Kosovo, and it was the richest part of Serbia back then. Again it's not that simple, but it's easier to say SERBS BAD ThEY WhAnT GrEaT SeRbIA.
@@aramispapadopulos2422 Alternative facts anyone?
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Poor people armed and controlled by the JNA, that is, the Serbs
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Wish they were a thing they were a powerhouse
you didn't mention Slobodan Praljak, the situation is very unclear with this man. A loud matter, fresh from the Hague
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
Its quite clear actually. That man was very intelligent,he had 3 college graduations and when he reliazed that they will set him up to be convicted he managed to smuggle a poison into Haag. You could write a novel just on that subject. So he decided to die like a man,a Croat,instead of rooting in the cell. Now you can see his portayts all over the country,even in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
@@mihovilraboteg6160 I have to correct you on one very very important thing. THE MOST important thing. You said "So he decided to die like a man,a Croat,instead of rooting in the cell." NO. He was not captured. He volunteer to Haag, and spend years defending himself. At the time when he hear the verdicte, he already served 2/3 of prison time. So, he could walk home as free man. But he didn't want to live with title criminal. He said "Slobodan Praljak is not war criminal, with disdain I reject your verdict!"! and i drink poison to prove them wrong... It was a free man that drink poison, not prisoner that will rot in cell...
@@generalposlijebitke6688 well he obviously didnt think he was free for as long as he had a stain on his name.
Croatian war was from 1991 to 1995
In that case I stand corrected.
@@HistoryHustle yes, but you put from 1991 to 1992 which is not correct but also in that years was a war, and it endend in 1995 whit operation Oluja (Storm) what you have mentioned
This is why this short video about fall of Yugoslavia is bad idea. In this whole video make Serbs as the MAIN reason of Yugoslav war and somehow manage to miss events who later lead to this catastrophic war without winner. What about torture and killing of JNA soldiers and their families in Slovenia (1991), Dobrovoljača street in Sarajevo (1992) where many regrut soldiers were killed in agreed withdrawal which later led to Serbs siege of Sarajevo. On top of that the NATO bombing of Serbia (1999) you reduced it to only "strategic" bombing of Belgrade and Novi Sad but infact many cities were bomb without reason. Example of that is cassette bombing of center Niš where one pregnant woman died. You just continued western story about Yugoslav war and politic about "bad Serbs". You should add just 5 more minutes to this video and include this thing mentions above. Nothing start just like that, there is always reason for something this horrific such as Yugoslav war....
Just see my main video if you don’t believe me how they really are and that we Bosniaks are victims and not the bad guys , Srebrenica ,and thousands of Bosniak women and young girls were raped in very brutal ways, Bosnia ,1992-1995.I will not forget nor forgive.✌️😢.Many girls did call me ugly when it’s not my fault ,( Poor Me ) many were very mean to me,mostly my own kind,but I can’t help it I feel sorry and I fight any evil any injustice this way at least…..
Dude, unfortunately, serbian shovinistic politic of greater serbia is the key problem in Yugoslav wars
be nice if all your facts were true but its clear you're very pro-Serb and very anti-Croatia. There are so many false facts in your presentation it hurts to even listen and as some else mentioned Jugoslavia (actual meaning is united slavs) is pronounced with a Y sound not a J. Maybe you should stick to doing Dutch history something you might know more about.
Did it all. You don't explain any false facts, nor come with any sources. It seems you clearly don't like to hear the true history.
oversimplified :(
Ok.
I will just say Vukovar in year 91. What the Serbs do? Con. camps are born in 91. To destroy Croats...
Croats Storm and Flash save muslims in Bihać and destroy Serbs army. This leed to peace...
Its not like you killed thousands and thousands of Serbs and expelled over 250k serbs...
Man first time since ww2 ther where camps to extrrminate croats opend in 1991 after genoside of vukovar and the entite conflict was inside croatia so offcorse ther was some payback in 1995 but in no way in size or cruelty serbs confucted them self in croatia or bosnia you oversimplifay too much
This is an overview video.
Nice video I respect every death in this war even though I'm Serb it was disguisting watching dead people children soldiers fighting...
Thanks for your reply. Can I ask, how old were you when these wars occured?
@@HistoryHustle well I was kid but ehh I kinda don't want to get reminded of these things... We hate each other but steel we are in other ways same people Rakija, Burek, Cevapi !!!
@@brothergam1n9yt21 I understand. Thanks for posting!
@@brothergam1n9yt21 I agree with you with that! Just listed 3 of my favourite things.
My mother is Serb but my Kum is Croatian and the only person I know who has the power to shut my mother up.
You are funny... Hahahha.. You don't know what it's about. Or do you know if you're avoiding
Hahahah. Ok.
Croatian War of Independence lasted from 1991 till 1996. They way you just skimmed over that war was a bit disappointing. As compared to the Bosnian war
Ok.
Great breakdown, most facts mentioned and decently objective.
The only remark is you just spared one sentence on crimes Bosnian Muslims did in Bosnia over Serbs,basically just saying they did them, not mentioning places or number of victims , but you did very elaborate report about Srebrenica (a horrible crime).
Not sure if you even mention there were fights between Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Muslims.
Also you said there was a bombing of Serbian military infrastructure by NATO in Kosovo and in Serbia and Montenegro ... But during the 78 days and nights of bombing, 50,000 destructive missiles were fired in 30,000 air raids. 2,500 people died, 500 civilians, including 79 children. 12,500 inhabitants were wounded. The infrastructure, the economy, schools, health centers, cultural monuments, and media houses were badly destroyed.
So not only strategic targets but children hospitals,maternity hospitals, civilian trains and refugee convoys (Albanian refugees btw)
There was no approval from the security council of the UN for this military attack.
And they used cluster bombs and depleted uranium.During the NATO bombing campaign against Yugoslavia in 1999, cluster bombs were extensively used. According to reports, 1,765 cluster bombs were dropped, containing approximately 295,000 sub-munitions. These bombs were deployed in 105 zones across the country, primarily in Serbia and Kosovo.
NATO's use of depleted uranium (DU) during its bombing campaign has raised significant health and environmental concerns. Depleted uranium, used in armor-piercing munitions, can contaminate the environment and pose long-term health risks, including cancer and kidney damage, due to its chemical toxicity and radioactivity. Cleanup efforts and studies have been ongoing to assess and mitigate the impact on affected areas and populations.
Consequences
An estimated 2,500 cluster bombs failed to explode and remain unexploded in the ground, posing a significant threat to civilians. Human Rights Watch condemned NATO’s use of cluster bombs, citing their indiscriminate nature and potential to cause harm to non-combatants, particularly in urban areas.
Incidents
One notable incident occurred on May 7, 1999, when Dutch F-16s dropped cluster bombs on Niš Airport, resulting in civilian casualties. This event was the most serious involving cluster bombs and civilian deaths during the NATO bombing campaign.resulted in the deaths of 16 people, including a pregnant woman, and injured 18 others, with around 300 bombs, known as "yellow killers," being dropped in the vicinity of the University, the bus station, and the market.
Ongoing Threat
A decade after the bombing campaign, around 160,000 people in Serbia were still at risk from unexploded cluster bombs, scattered across 15 municipalities in the southern region near the Kosovo border. The Norwegian People’s Aid organization reported that these bombs were buried 50-70 centimeters underground, posing a permanent threat to those living in the affected areas.
Please check before telling that Kosovo Albanian was discriminat,they have school, university ,TV,radio station, books,on their Albania language. Problems were they have average 10 kids and whole Yugoslavia has to give them money.
Albanian come after ww2 like refugees from poor country Albania and become majority. Kosovo and Metohija is Holy Land of Serbs. The most Orthodox Christians Church are there and Head of Serbian Church ⛪️ is there..Serbs History is so huge and if you want to find out really true ,you must read a lot of books 📚.
I'm Serbian Historian and please ask someone for hand if you are not 100% sure about topic you are making stories. Sorry for not good my English.
You explained it very well. Albanians were not discrimenated they with the help of West are working on making Big Albania.
HUSTLE HUSTLE
Like there is no tomorrow:)
Nice Džugoslav wars
Džugoslav wars?
Here one hears too many Western political interpretations from the Western media of the time. Those political interpretations are maintained in political life even today because Western politics still has its interest in it, and the consequences of that time and the decisions of that time are still current and problematic. The truth on the ground was much different, but correcting entrenched beliefs (especially those beliefs that are in the interest of Western governments produced in the Western media) is always a futile effort.
I've Heard The terrible stories from my uncle about the war, even video's of serbs torturing croats from the footage they took from them when the croats massacred the Cetniks in slavonia. no Cetnik (bjeli orlovi) was spared.
It was indeed a brutal conflict.
I was Croatian soldier, and I think that this video is on nice way show situation on fields, in few minutes.
I think that croatian victorys (and Army of BiH) in operations Maestral and Južni potez ended War in Bosnia and Hercegovina, because Serbs are defeted and forced to sign Dayton agreement. I think this is very importmant.
Sir, your video is very good!
Many thanks for your reply.
@@HistoryHustle of course, Serbs denied his defet on battlefield, as always do...but new born Croatian Army defeted all serbian armys west of river Drina in operations Bljesak, Oluja, Maestral and Južni potez. This is fact, this is history...
At end of 1995. Croatian Army made concentration of his forces in Easter Slavonia and Serbs 11. Corps disarmed himself and Serbian ministry of foregin affairs Milan Milutinović sign Erdut agreement, wich provided come back of Vukovar to his homeland, in Croatia.
THIS IS END OF WAR!
If Serbs not surended then, Croatian Army will take Vukovar and rest of Croatian land by force, no doubt about this...
...we were ready...and willing..
You make the Arabs victims and martyrs! Don't you know history? It was Serbs who were the aggressors in the wars in former Yugoslavia!
What do you mean?
@@HistoryHustle At the beginning of the video it sounds like the Serbs in Croatia are being persecuted and "forced" to revolt. It just so happens that I was living in Zagreb at the time, I remember it being just the opposite. Serbian nationalists, who received weapons from the Yugoslav Federal Army, were the ones who attacked the Croats in Kraina. The police station in Knin was attacked and looted, Croatian women in Knin were raped.
When the police station in Knin was looted, police helicopters were sent from Zagreb to assist the police in Knin. The Yugoslav army sent fighter jets to force the police to fly back to Zagreb, remember this very well. You don't mention that in your video.
Serbs invaded,Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, never the other way round. Hmmm
Oh and to claim Kosovo Pole because you LOST a war 🤣, don't you need to win to control said territory?
God willing the Republik Srpska won't cause another war, the Bosniaks will be coming of an age where they may want Serbs out of Bosnia. Let's all hope peace prevails. Hate just shows ignorance. Love shows the finest of humanity.
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I understand.
as a superficial exposition by historians of such a complex and complicated course of history, one simply cannot believe that this was said by a man who has chosen the path of history for life
It sure is complex.
What is unfortunately not explained is the cause of the wars in the 1990s.
The cause was that the Western world felt that Yugoslavia's economic system had to change to a free Western Market economy.
This transformation was accompanied by large loans from the IMF and World Bank, which eventually could no longer be raised, leaving the states within Yugoslavia without financial support from the central leadership.
This caused widespread unrest. Unrest was also deliberately stoked by the CIA.
Sounds like conspiracy.
@@HistoryHustle
In my opinion, it was indeed a conspiracy.
Ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia became a reality only after the 'shock therapy' of the IMF and the World Bank had done its job."
Michel Chossudovsky demonstrates this in his book "
"Globalization of Poverty & the New World Order."
@@HistoryHustle
Indeed, it was a preconceived plan of the Reagan administration to kill the current economic system and take Yugoslavia out of the sphere of influence of the Soviet Union.
See National Security Decision Directive 54.
That was the cause of all the misery that followed.
@@HistoryHustle
UN "peacekeeping" was nothing more than post-war colonialism.
In the name of global capital, borders have been redrawn, law codes rewritten, industries destroyed, financial and banking systems dismantled and social programs eliminated.
@@HistoryHustle UN "peacekeeping" was nothing more than post-war colonialism.
In the name of global capital, borders have been redrawn, law codes rewritten, industries destroyed, financial and banking systems dismantled and social programs eliminated.
11:21 There's no such thing as "Peace in the Balkans". Trust me on this one.
Now there is.
@@HistoryHustle Don't google Kosovo.
Vse kar sem ti hotel povedati je, da na Balkanu pač nikoli ne bo miru. Mi smo plemena. Živimo v Srednjem veku in se temu primerno tudi obnašamo. In ne, Nizozemci niste krivi za Srebrenico. To je del naše »kulture«.
lol i hate the un
UN or NATO?
@@HistoryHustle was it not dutch UN peace keepers who danced with the genociders? The story is the same with many troops from the UN that were 'peacekeeping' rwanda.
Da posebno vama hrvatima i muslimanima u korist. Trgovina oružjem, hranom, teritorijom.
Pa imas pravo, teritorijalci koliko su bili pohlepni, trgovali su sa vama i muslimanima sa naftom, oružjem pa i teritorijom. To je jedno vrijeme bilo prekinuto kada su na ispomoć u Krajini stacionirani vojnici Republike Srpske. Nažalost, trgovina je opet bila zastupljena nakon odlaska vojnika RS.
Watch the movie whistleblower. Based on true story about how the UN was turning a blind eye on how the mafia was using young women from the war as sex slaves. A friend that is Bosnian confirmed it to be true. So yeah the UN is USELESS!!!!!
Very poor video. Stick to world war 2
Please explain.
@@HistoryHustle just not enough nuance. As someone from the region of Yugoslavia, there’s just a lot you didn’t touch on, your tales seem mainly in line with CNN and BBC approved talking points with regards to the war
Then at least provide some examples where there should've been nuance.
@@HistoryHustle During the span of your whole 12 or 13 minute long video you dedicated exactly 6 seconds of it to talking about what the Muslims had done to the Serbs and Croats inside of Bosnia that’s not enough you clearly did not pay enough attention or bother to look up what crimes the foreign fighters known as the mujahadeen did inside of that country to Christians and that shows because of your biases. you also failed to mention anything significant about the beginning of the Kosovo war you said “clashes between Yugoslav forces and KLA resistance” well that is simply not true the war started when Kosovo liberation Army terrorists began killing Serbian police and military inside of Kosovo they wanted to kill police in order to invoke a response from the Yugoslav government in order to petition for Western support as the west had readily supported the independence of Croatia Bosnia in the others so you are not giving a full picture as to what actually happened in the Yugoslav wars this is such a large topic that requires careful attention in detail and you did it no justice as I said previously you seem to have only outlined the CNN and BBC approved talking points with regards to the war and how it happened
@@HistoryHustle You seemed to simply chalk it up to “Serbian ultranationalism” and this pseudo intellectual idea of a “greater Serbia” that was supposedly being carefully managed in unison by all Serbian politicians is ridiculous. There is no evidence of this. The Serbs in Croatia didn’t deserve what treatment they received and it’s a shame how little you speak about it here. The Serbs in modern day Croatia were there for CENTURIES. The ones that wanted to create an independent entity in the 1990s with Krajina were rightfully in fear of what being inside of another “independent state of Croatia” would be like, given that just 45 years prior there was nearly 1 million Serbs killed inside this Croatian state who’s ACTUAL OFFICIAL government policy for Serbs was to kill, expel and convert all Serbs, which again, cannot he said for this fictitious fascist Serbian Goliath you portray in your video.
50% is true of this video. You never mention that first people who were killed in Yugoslavia in all parties of country were Seebian by ustash which was Croatian and Bosnian Muslims who were during WWII 85% ustash and killed nearly mention Serbs. Next to the Srebrenica there is Serbian village Bratunac where is grave of more than 3.500 kids, women, older killed by Muslims army from Srebrenica before was Serbs Army strike.
Buhahaha ! who is Četnik?
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