I am surprised how accurate you were with a stick. That seemed very viable small game hunting implement. I love edged and throw weapons, so I'm definitely going to make a set. Thanks for the video
Carve a point on both ends on 2 of those, notch the centers and lash them together and you have made the Adirondack death star. Perfect for flying and running animals and birds
there are shuriken and shaken that were sharpened on both sides, historically. it allows for more varied distances from which to throw the weapon. otherwise, the weapon would have to be turned in the hand before the throw. when camping, I always bring my sharpened tent stakes. metal wins over wood for hunting almost every time.
Thx for watching! Actually I chose the thicker end of the stave to be the pointed end. That ensures forward center of gravity and makes it more likely for the point side to connect with the target.
I find this an incredibly useful tool not only for hunting but also for fire starting u can make a drill bow with it too if need be use the spike as a driller and than u get a fire started besides u can always use it for close range stabbing for example if u try hunting some small game but an animal ambushes u and u get into some wrestling u can always stab with the spike very comfortably not to mention u can always attach 3 spikes into a Shuriken wich will give u no need to practice throwing techniques all u need to do is throw it accurately no need to spin it correctly as it will always hit the target with the point not the spine of the spike so yeah so far very cheap easy to make tool for survival purposes u can also use it to make traps too spikes are commonly known for booby traps around the outdoors it's probably effective way of hunting too so
Just found your channel. This is great content! It's nice to know there's more asians that are interested in bushcraft too. :-) I may give this a shot and make some Bo Shuriken sometime. I'll tag you somehow when i do. :D
Bro, your videos have the best music and the way you do everything makes them feel so epic. I'm a new subscriber and I see you haven't posted a video in a few months, hope to see you again soon!!
I’ve actually made metal versions of these! Well they’re more like throwing needles, I took some long nails and grinder the head down and sharpened the tip, to throw it I use a no spin throw
Balance them on your finger in the middle. If they dont sit even file the side that is heavier till it sits balanced perfectly even. It will stick a lot more often.
Another great example! I really like what you’re doing. In Larry Dean Olsen’s survival book he talks about using sticks as weapons but not pointed. I wonder if blunt trauma on rabbits, squirrels and grouse would be a better goal than pointed? Naturally for larger game it’d be important to make it stick.
Thanks for watching! I see the bo shuriken as another variant of the throwing stick. Honestly, I'm not sure if the point makes much of a difference. I feel like it hits about as hard as any other throwing stick, but it is a little bit more accurate.
Thanks for watching! Multiple boomerangs are quite awkward to carry around. Also with the Bo shuriken you can attach several to your belt with a cordage lashing and they don't get in the way.
Try reducing the spin by letting the stick slide out of your hand with no wrist flicking. Half-Spin throw should stick in around 2 metres and Full Spin around 4 Metres. But honestly, No-Spin/Quarter-Spin or Instinctive Half Spin is probably your best bet and you can still generate a good amount of power.
@@WannabeBushcrafter This video kinda reminds me of being a kid. The tractor would come in to cut the fields and the kids would stand around the outside of the field with a pocket full of rocks and as the tractor run the rabbits out the kids, with what ever they had, a sling shot or many times just throwing the rocks, would knock the rabbits out long enough to run up to them and chop them in the back of the neck with a stick or your hand and break their neck. Ahh yes then it was fried rabbit, gravy and biscuit time! ... Good times.
Thanks for watching! Yeah I have a hatchet that I use for heavy duty work. Haven't played around too much with tomahawks just yet but looking to get one at some point :)
Bo shuriken will penetrate a target better and more accurately, if you do not throw it spinning end over end. Takes more skill to throw "no spin" (parabolic path), thus thousands of practice throws.
Cold Steel made and sold a couple of steel variants of this. I can't remember what the name of the product was but I owned two larger, heavier ones and two of the lighter ones. They had points on each end. They might have been called "torpedos", come to think of it. It seems the wooden versions in your video could be soaked in water to gain weight, if needed. Also, could a "kite string" or something simular be attached to the dull end so the point always leads ? Thanks for your videos. After watching two tonight, I subscribed.
The art I study includes shuriken and shaken. wooden versions are never used and are shown as precursors to the real weapons of metal. one must understand the principals of the relationship between rotation and distance before one can effectively hunt with this item. training thusly should take many years before slight proficiency can be realized. Having said that, it would be easier for me to think that these wooden spikes would never be thrown, but used in the hand for close-up attacks instead. more strength can be applied when the muscles of the arm, along with the body's weight, press the spike into a soft area of the body. bludgeoning gives a much better effect from a distance than piercing damage as the spike would have to pass into flesh, not just damage the surface of it. this is a good attempt at providing valuable survival information, and I commend you for trying, but this simply will not work as easy as expected. a refined value grows interest.
Thanks for watching! I get what your saying about the difficulty of having the spike pierce a body. But after practicing a bit I don't think it was originally meant for piercing game. I think the throwing spike was originally intended to work like a rabbit stick or a boomerang in that it takes down small game via blunt trauma. The spike end IMHO simply concentrates the amount of force onto a smaller target, increasing the blunt trauma. The entire dynamic might have changed when metal spikes replaced wooden ones however.
I don't know if anyone else pointed it out but you can make the other end the shape you need for a bow drill so you have a hunting tool and fire maker. Just need a block for the sharp tip when using it for this. Also charring the tip will make it harder and more durable.
Three things Did you really make a sharp stick to throw end over end and not put two points Did you really have to add the horn music while you showed off how bad of a design this was Why not just make a javelin if you are going to carry 4 of these if you are going for deer or rabbit
Hey thanks for watching! I read about this design in a book and wanted to see how effective it was. Overall it performed like a rabbit stick and was perhaps a bit more accurate.
Thx for watching! The point is that any point along the length of the spike has a possibility of hitting the target. So it's much easier to get hits at say 30 feet than you can with a weapon such as the bow and arrow where the small arrow Head must hit the target. This is doubly so if you have limited to no practice with it.
Love your vids! I apologise but I'm going to be "that guy" this time around. I find it difficult to believe that this would be at all effective weapon for hunting. I could possibly believe you could stun small game with it but personally I'd probably opt for a much bigger, heavier piece of wood to kill them in one hard strike. As for hunting deer, that seems like a really big stretch to me.
Thanks for watching! Each spike only weigh about a pound but they hit with a surprising amount of knockdown power. I semi flattened a thick steel coffee can with one direct hit so I suspect there might be somewhere between 50-100 ft lbs of kinetic energy behind the spike. The other thing I noticed is that with practice it's possible to consistently have the pointy end of the spike land on the target. This might concentrate the power on a smaller spot causing more damage. With that said I really think this weapon is meant for taking small game at close range, much like a rabbit stick. The story about the first emporor of Japan hunting deer with the Bo Shuriken is likely some form of ancient political propaganda. According to the story, Lord Yamato impaled the deer's head by throwing the spike through one of it's eyeballs, killing the animal instantly.
I agree, the modern martial arts that train using this weapon, use metal versions. they are quite accurate as well. in this case, using the skins elastic qualities to harm an animal seems more plausible than trying to tear into it. i study a martial art that uses shuriken and bring my sharpened steel tent stakes with me when i go camping for just such a purpose. (well, mostly for recreation. lol)
He's renaming a rabbit stick a wooden shuriken and throwing it the wrong way. You're not supposed to telegraph the throw which scares the prey giving you less of a chance to land and its supposed to fly horizontically not vertical so you have the maximum chance of hitting the animal you are aiming for. Iits ok he does his own thing but it would be better if he made an improvement rather than going a less effective direction. There is a video titled Art of the throwing stick - Tom Brown III on youtube which shows how to do it correctly if anyone is interested.
Thx for watching! I actually tried initially to throw it horizontally like a rabbit stick or Apache star. But it didn't fly straight when thrown that way. A rabbit stick's shape gives it an airfoil effect similar to a frisbee, but the throwing spike does not do that. The way that I am showing in this video is closer to the way that you throw a baseball or a knife and it worked much better for me. One other thing worth mentioning is that when throwing it, if you sort of push your hand against the spike at the moment of the release there is a much greater chance of it hitting the target with the pointy end.
We used rabbit sticks shapped exactly like yours when I was at sig 3, they called em combination rabbit sticks and digging sticks. Its shorter range than the airfoil version but worked fine for me sideways.
Thanks for watching! I think the story of Lord Yamato killing a deer must have been just a myth. He supposedly threw it such that the spike went through the eye socket of the deer and killed it instantly.
@@WannabeBushcrafter While only a movie,in the movie The Hunted someone uses a wood shuriken to hit someone in the leg.The shuriken flew straight which means it was a no spin throw.
I’ve also made several rabbit sticks but I’d make one end a sharpened wedge so you could dig with it, and use as a wedge to get say your axe out if it gets stuck in a knot
Thanks for watching! Here is the wiki definition of the Bo Shuriken. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuriken#Bo_shuriken In the video, I was showing my interpretation of a neolithic to early bronze age variant of the Bo Shuriken made out of wood.
Thanks for watching! I read about this primitive weapon from a book and really wanted to see it in action. I was throwing these spikes about 30 feet away from a steel coffee can. Now these cans are quite durable with pretty thick steel walls. And even though these spikes are only about a pound or so in weight, when I get a hit it either deeply dents the can or sometimes is partially flattens the can. So I suspect that it's hitting with a significant amount of knock down power. Probably enough to stun small game animals imho.
Thanks for watching! The throwing stick design is an interesting and imho underestimated weapon. Believe it or not, all variants of this weapon requires very little training (e.g a few hours for me) to get to a point where you can hit a small game sized target once out of every 2-3 throws at 30 feet. And it hits hard enough to stun small game.
I am surprised how accurate you were with a stick. That seemed very viable small game hunting implement. I love edged and throw weapons, so I'm definitely going to make a set. Thanks for the video
Thanks!
Carve a point on both ends on 2 of those, notch the centers and lash them together and you have made the Adirondack death star. Perfect for flying and running animals and birds
Yeah the apache star is great!
Interesting! Have you experimented with the no spin technique? Seems likely that it would be the preferred method for hitting with the point.
Yes I have. It's hard to get the hang of it with a wooden spike though.
This is so cool. I always made these as a kid and throw them anywhere. Great tutorial!
Thx, I'm glad you like it!
@@WannabeBushcrafter Try a no spin throw.
@@galvinstanley3235 I might give it a try. I find it hard to do no spin technique.
Pretty cool dude! Loved adding the history in behind it. Well done! Keep on keepin on!
Much appreciated!
Could you try to make a bushcraft grappling hook?
Thanks for that idea!
Would it knot make sense to sharpen both sides!
Thanks for watching! I haven't tried making both sides into spikes. It might be worth doing in the future.
Was just thinking the same thing . . .
@@mudel Yeah I need to give that a try.
there are shuriken and shaken that were sharpened on both sides, historically. it allows for more varied distances from which to throw the weapon. otherwise, the weapon would have to be turned in the hand before the throw. when camping, I always bring my sharpened tent stakes. metal wins over wood for hunting almost every time.
I would think that the advantage would be outweighed by the fact that it would be more difficult to grip and use. I must try both.
Would it help to tapper the diameter so the pointed end is heavier and more likely be forward at impact, like a lawn dart?
Thx for watching! Actually I chose the thicker end of the stave to be the pointed end. That ensures forward center of gravity and makes it more likely for the point side to connect with the target.
I find this an incredibly useful tool not only for hunting but also for fire starting u can make a drill bow with it too if need be use the spike as a driller and than u get a fire started besides u can always use it for close range stabbing for example if u try hunting some small game but an animal ambushes u and u get into some wrestling u can always stab with the spike very comfortably not to mention u can always attach 3 spikes into a Shuriken wich will give u no need to practice throwing techniques all u need to do is throw it accurately no need to spin it correctly as it will always hit the target with the point not the spine of the spike so yeah so far very cheap easy to make tool for survival purposes u can also use it to make traps too spikes are commonly known for booby traps around the outdoors it's probably effective way of hunting too so
Nice, thanks for watching!
Just found your channel. This is great content! It's nice to know there's more asians that are interested in bushcraft too. :-) I may give this a shot and make some Bo Shuriken sometime. I'll tag you somehow when i do. :D
Thanks for watching! Have fun with it, I really like the throwing spike design it has certain advantages over the rabbit stick as well as drawbacks.
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What was the lengths of your shurikens?
They were around 2 feet.
Bro, your videos have the best music and the way you do everything makes them feel so epic. I'm a new subscriber and I see you haven't posted a video in a few months, hope to see you again soon!!
Thanks for the comment. I've been crazy busy lately with the day job and feeding my kids. But one of these days I'll get a break and make more videos!
I’ve actually made metal versions of these! Well they’re more like throwing needles, I took some long nails and grinder the head down and sharpened the tip, to throw it I use a no spin throw
Nice!
Balance them on your finger in the middle. If they dont sit even file the side that is heavier till it sits balanced perfectly even. It will stick a lot more often.
Thanks for watching!
The amount of skill and power it would take to kill a deer with one of those things 0_0
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Another great example! I really like what you’re doing.
In Larry Dean Olsen’s survival book he talks about using sticks as weapons but not pointed. I wonder if blunt trauma on rabbits, squirrels and grouse would be a better goal than pointed? Naturally for larger game it’d be important to make it stick.
Thanks for watching! I see the bo shuriken as another variant of the throwing stick. Honestly, I'm not sure if the point makes much of a difference. I feel like it hits about as hard as any other throwing stick, but it is a little bit more accurate.
@@WannabeBushcrafter interesting, I think I’ll give it a try one of these days.
3:30, why can't you carry 5 boomerangs? They're even smaller and lighter. Just a different shape? Plus, boomerangs come back :)
Thanks for watching! Multiple boomerangs are quite awkward to carry around. Also with the Bo shuriken you can attach several to your belt with a cordage lashing and they don't get in the way.
Returning boomerangs aren't really used for killing small game but as a decoy. Also Boomerangs take more skill and time to make.
Anything more about that bevelling? What for, exactly how? But OK, it is interesting, thanx!
Thanks for watching! The beveling prevents the blunt end of splitting or checking when it hits a hard surface.
Sharpen both sides make another and bind them together in the center you will make a large throwing star
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Try reducing the spin by letting the stick slide out of your hand with no wrist flicking. Half-Spin throw should stick in around 2 metres and Full Spin around 4 Metres.
But honestly, No-Spin/Quarter-Spin or Instinctive Half Spin is probably your best bet and you can still generate a good amount of power.
Yeah no-spin technique is really cool but you need more practice to get good at it.
My guess is it would be more deadly if the handle was whittled down more to make the pointed end heaver than the handle end.
Thanks for the tip!
@@WannabeBushcrafter This video kinda reminds me of being a kid. The tractor would come in to cut the fields and the kids would stand around the outside of the field with a pocket full of rocks and as the tractor run the rabbits out the kids, with what ever they had, a sling shot or many times just throwing the rocks, would knock the rabbits out long enough to run up to them and chop them in the back of the neck with a stick or your hand and break their neck. Ahh yes then it was fried rabbit, gravy and biscuit time! ... Good times.
@@bentley1960 Thanks for sharing your story!
You should get something like the crkt tomahawk for stripping the branches
Thanks for watching! Yeah I have a hatchet that I use for heavy duty work. Haven't played around too much with tomahawks just yet but looking to get one at some point :)
@@WannabeBushcrafter If you are going to throw the tomahawk I recommend that you get a cold steel norse hawk.
@@wizeisinger nice I was actually checking out tomahawks! Thx for the tip!
Bo shuriken will penetrate a target better and more accurately, if you do not throw it spinning end over end. Takes more skill to throw "no spin" (parabolic path), thus thousands of practice throws.
Nice, I heard about the no spin throw, haven't tried it myself yet but will look into it!
Why not sharpen both ends?
Thanks for watching! I tried to follow the original historical description of this weapon when crafting it.
Interesting video. I would like to see how well it knocks down a small animal
Thanks for the idea!
By training with Wooden Spikes (Bo-Shuriken) it gives you something to use in case your spear snaps.
Thanks for watching, you're right!
Very good idea, Thank you very much
Thanks, glad you found it helpful!
This was my first whittling project
Nice!
Cold Steel made and sold a couple of steel variants of this. I can't remember what the name of the product was but I owned two larger, heavier ones and two of the lighter ones. They had points on each end. They might have been called "torpedos", come to think of it. It seems the wooden versions in your video could be soaked in water to gain weight, if needed. Also, could a "kite string" or something simular be attached to the dull end so the point always leads ? Thanks for your videos. After watching two tonight, I subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing!
The art I study includes shuriken and shaken. wooden versions are never used and are shown as precursors to the real weapons of metal. one must understand the principals of the relationship between rotation and distance before one can effectively hunt with this item. training thusly should take many years before slight proficiency can be realized. Having said that, it would be easier for me to think that these wooden spikes would never be thrown, but used in the hand for close-up attacks instead. more strength can be applied when the muscles of the arm, along with the body's weight, press the spike into a soft area of the body. bludgeoning gives a much better effect from a distance than piercing damage as the spike would have to pass into flesh, not just damage the surface of it. this is a good attempt at providing valuable survival information, and I commend you for trying, but this simply will not work as easy as expected. a refined value grows interest.
Thanks for watching! I get what your saying about the difficulty of having the spike pierce a body. But after practicing a bit I don't think it was originally meant for piercing game. I think the throwing spike was originally intended to work like a rabbit stick or a boomerang in that it takes down small game via blunt trauma. The spike end IMHO simply concentrates the amount of force onto a smaller target, increasing the blunt trauma. The entire dynamic might have changed when metal spikes replaced wooden ones however.
@@WannabeBushcrafter good point.
Tasmanian aboriginal tribes used these for hunting except Tasmanian sticks are sharp on both ends
I like that you’re using a mora knife. Not one of these must have $400 ones.
Thanks!
what about a hunting lawn dart?
Lol that's an interesting idea!
@@WannabeBushcrafter try and make some out of rebar and do some tests
A goid melle weapon / theowing weapon
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I don't know if anyone else pointed it out but you can make the other end the shape you need for a bow drill so you have a hunting tool and fire maker. Just need a block for the sharp tip when using it for this.
Also charring the tip will make it harder and more durable.
Thanks for the tips!
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A shuriken is a throwing star and a bo shuriken is a spike
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No problem
Three things
Did you really make a sharp stick to throw end over end and not put two points
Did you really have to add the horn music while you showed off how bad of a design this was
Why not just make a javelin if you are going to carry 4 of these if you are going for deer or rabbit
Hey thanks for watching! I read about this design in a book and wanted to see how effective it was. Overall it performed like a rabbit stick and was perhaps a bit more accurate.
Have u tried throwing rocks like a baseball pitcher kinda like cave men no sling
Thanks for watching! I have actually!
Make a throwing dart with fins to make it accurate.
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No, THEY are not deadly accurate. YOU are deadly accurate (or not). It all comes down to how much time you spend practicing.
Thx for watching! The point is that any point along the length of the spike has a possibility of hitting the target. So it's much easier to get hits at say 30 feet than you can with a weapon such as the bow and arrow where the small arrow Head must hit the target. This is doubly so if you have limited to no practice with it.
In first photo was Ainu
Yes, that's right. I couldn't find any photos of the Jomon who were displaced out of the main Japanese islands by the more advanced Yaoyi culture.
@@WannabeBushcrafter its ok dont worry and a fact...ainu peoples was peaceful tribe when children of sun japanese came in their land
Love your vids! I apologise but I'm going to be "that guy" this time around.
I find it difficult to believe that this would be at all effective weapon for hunting. I could possibly believe you could stun small game with it but personally I'd probably opt for a much bigger, heavier piece of wood to kill them in one hard strike.
As for hunting deer, that seems like a really big stretch to me.
Thanks for watching! Each spike only weigh about a pound but they hit with a surprising amount of knockdown power. I semi flattened a thick steel coffee can with one direct hit so I suspect there might be somewhere between 50-100 ft lbs of kinetic energy behind the spike. The other thing I noticed is that with practice it's possible to consistently have the pointy end of the spike land on the target. This might concentrate the power on a smaller spot causing more damage. With that said I really think this weapon is meant for taking small game at close range, much like a rabbit stick. The story about the first emporor of Japan hunting deer with the Bo Shuriken is likely some form of ancient political propaganda. According to the story, Lord Yamato impaled the deer's head by throwing the spike through one of it's eyeballs, killing the animal instantly.
I agree, the modern martial arts that train using this weapon, use metal versions. they are quite accurate as well. in this case, using the skins elastic qualities to harm an animal seems more plausible than trying to tear into it. i study a martial art that uses shuriken and bring my sharpened steel tent stakes with me when i go camping for just such a purpose. (well, mostly for recreation. lol)
@@Woodchuckinthesouth thanks for watching and sharing your pov.
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How can I carve darts throwing like bruce lee carve in a movie
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Or... sneak up behind the can (or food or enemy) and stab it with the wooden stake.
Lol thx for watching!
He's renaming a rabbit stick a wooden shuriken and throwing it the wrong way. You're not supposed to telegraph the throw which scares the prey giving you less of a chance to land and its supposed to fly horizontically not vertical so you have the maximum chance of hitting the animal you are aiming for. Iits ok he does his own thing but it would be better if he made an improvement rather than going a less effective direction. There is a video titled
Art of the throwing stick - Tom Brown III on youtube which shows how to do it correctly if anyone is interested.
Thx for watching! I actually tried initially to throw it horizontally like a rabbit stick or Apache star. But it didn't fly straight when thrown that way. A rabbit stick's shape gives it an airfoil effect similar to a frisbee, but the throwing spike does not do that. The way that I am showing in this video is closer to the way that you throw a baseball or a knife and it worked much better for me. One other thing worth mentioning is that when throwing it, if you sort of push your hand against the spike at the moment of the release there is a much greater chance of it hitting the target with the pointy end.
We used rabbit sticks shapped exactly like yours when I was at sig 3, they called em combination rabbit sticks and digging sticks. Its shorter range than the airfoil version but worked fine for me sideways.
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How would someone be able to kill a deer with this?
Thanks for watching! I think the story of Lord Yamato killing a deer must have been just a myth. He supposedly threw it such that the spike went through the eye socket of the deer and killed it instantly.
@@WannabeBushcrafter While only a movie,in the movie The Hunted someone uses a wood shuriken to hit someone in the leg.The shuriken flew straight which means it was a no spin throw.
Nice! I need to check out that movie!
@@WannabeBushcrafter In your opinion could this kill a squirrel hanging on a tree?
@@galvinstanley3235 yes absolutely those spikes hit hard.
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We called these rabbit sticks an didn't sharpen either end
Thx for watching! This is a variant of the rabbit stick.
I’ve also made several rabbit sticks but I’d make one end a sharpened wedge so you could dig with it, and use as a wedge to get say your axe out if it gets stuck in a knot
@@chasingthetrail9375 nice idea!
1st off, a bo is a staff 6 feet or longer, 2nd, a shuriken is a metal throwing star. What you've got there is a crude wooden stake.
Thanks for watching! Here is the wiki definition of the Bo Shuriken. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuriken#Bo_shuriken
In the video, I was showing my interpretation of a neolithic to early bronze age variant of the Bo Shuriken made out of wood.
A Bo-Shuriken is a throwing spike... the stars are Hira-Shuriken.
A pizza box makes a good target .
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Either sharpen both ends or stop spinning it.... other than that great video
Thanks for the tip
Looks very deadly
Thanks for watching! It hits hard.
Those aren’t even sharp. They will not kill. Throw a rock instead. At least it’s hard.
Thanks for watching! I think these are designed to inflict blunt force trauma on small game.
throwing a semi sharpened stick at a can is supposed to demonstrate what exactly???
and the background noise is a bit much tbh
Thanks for watching! I read about this primitive weapon from a book and really wanted to see it in action. I was throwing these spikes about 30 feet away from a steel coffee can. Now these cans are quite durable with pretty thick steel walls. And even though these spikes are only about a pound or so in weight, when I get a hit it either deeply dents the can or sometimes is partially flattens the can. So I suspect that it's hitting with a significant amount of knock down power. Probably enough to stun small game animals imho.
@@WannabeBushcrafter reasonable answer
Finnaly
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What a waisting time
Thx for watching! It was fun crafting this weapon and it's pretty effective as a throwing stick style weapon .
The weapon seems lame. You just made it a throwing club and strain yourself to be accurate. You squeezed your mind. The weapon was trash for hunting.
Thanks for watching! The throwing stick design is an interesting and imho underestimated weapon. Believe it or not, all variants of this weapon requires very little training (e.g a few hours for me) to get to a point where you can hit a small game sized target once out of every 2-3 throws at 30 feet. And it hits hard enough to stun small game.
@@WannabeBushcrafter Oh so it was only for small game i see. You made it very useful anyway.