I was about to ask the same question as above, but I saw your answer. Very interesting style, I know quite a few, but I am bad with names. In English they are things like speed draw where you bring your sheathed sword up to your hand instead of reaching around your body, then of course the power draw where you use your saya as a lever for extra cut strength. I was looking at the still picture diagram and thought it was a skill I learned involving upward cuts, but I see you were just striking with the back of the sword. Thanks for sharing! (I make Katana, and other martial arts gear, and sell them all over the world, because I am too disabled to use them a lot now. They are a big part of my life)
@jessewalters5361 That’s very interesting to hear, and thanks for taking the time to comment. I provided a little history on the form in the video description, but it amounts to: “Korean noble acquiring 4 Japanese sword forms from Japan somewhere near 1690”. I believe I have another form “To Yu Ryu” on this channel from an earlier grading I did :-) In the Muyedobotongji 4 styles are documented each by a “longform”: Un Gwang Ryu, To Yu Ryu, Chon Yu Ryu and Yu Pi Ryu. In Korea these are often the last to be learned, but in Norway we start with these as they are less flashy than the Korean and Chinese sword forms. It’s interesting to hear you make katanas. Do you have a website or a channel of your own? I’d love to see it :-)
@alpachinko9154 your eyes are not deceiving you. In the first sequence it uses the sharp edge, but the last sequence also makes use of the back edge. If you look at the mini picture or whatever it’s called (the title image of the video) you’ll see I’ve taken one of the postures of the form from the manual where the back edge is used :-)
@@traditionaltaekwondoramblings Interesting. I've never seen these forms before - the only weapons form from my Taekwondo days that was sporadically mentioned, was the Silla knife form, but that was only for 3°(?) and above black belts as far as I can remember. I've done some aikido and now currently train in Okinawan Goju Ryu karate, in which we also do some Kobudo as part of our syllabus, starting at blue belt (eskrima/hanbo/tanbo)
@@alpachinko9154 compared to taekwondo kyeongdang is extremely small outside of Korea. Heck it’s pretty small inside Korea too 😂 and inside this small group of martial artists the Japanese sword forms often gets overshadowed by more flashy forms or more “Korean forms”. These forms has nothing to do with taekwondo, but kyeongdang is part of “my taekwondo” if that makes sense :-) I really enjoy the added dimension in training by using weapons, and I also enjoy the historical side to it, as well as the genuine link back in Korean history :-) We can always discuss how close to the original the interpretation of the material is, but that the material is based on the muyedobotongji is not up for debate :-) I’m happy you enjoyed the video. I’ll be sure to share more of them in the future :-)
@@alpachinko9154 I don’t have a video but here’s a link to an old article I wrote on the subject: jungdokwan-taekwondo.blogspot.com/2011/10/muyedobotongji-oldest-kma-manual.html?m=0 :-)
I was just watching a guy reviewing a sword shop in Tokyo... supposedly real handforged katana. They started at like $800 but the first he pulled out was $2800. Fancy construction but the blade had a fake hamon line which raised major red flags. Sometimes I put some waves on a blade with a wire brush for artistic reasons, like making a sword based off of Animé. But why would a $2800 sword have a fake hamon line. He started looking through individual parts and the saya were the same as mine, but they wanted $300 each just for the saya. Most of the parts and tsubas were ones I already have and they wanted 10X what I paid. It made me feel good to see I make nicer katana for cheaper than what they sell tourists in Japan.
It’s like martial arts instruction. There’s good and bad both within the “native country” (Japan, Korea, China depending on the martial arts in question) and abroad. You could study taekwondo in the USA and get better instruction than within Korea (or vice versa). I’m glad to hear you make a superior quality artifact (I feel bad for calling handmade swords a “product” ) :-)
@@traditionaltaekwondoramblings I grew up in a small town and martial arts schools came and went a lot. We had a jujitsu school stay open for a while after the UFC first started making Brazilian Jujitsu so huge. I could tell after a few classes his style was no good. Luckily 1 guy stuck around and had a karate school for quite a few years. It was pretty orthodox and basic, but it got us flexible, limber, in better shape, and taught us the basics. It took my good friends and myself lots of practice, training, and initiative on our own to get better. We were his first and only class to qualify for tournaments... he never had enough students who could qualify and then not long later the karate craze kind of fizzled out (late 1990s), then a lot of the associations that put on the tournaments shut down.
Yeah I’ve heard the algorithm is pretty harsh on TH-cam. Many channels are losing views because they dare to display weapons too. I’ll Google your shop :-) thanks for sharing the name :-)
I was about to ask the same question as above, but I saw your answer. Very interesting style, I know quite a few, but I am bad with names. In English they are things like speed draw where you bring your sheathed sword up to your hand instead of reaching around your body, then of course the power draw where you use your saya as a lever for extra cut strength. I was looking at the still picture diagram and thought it was a skill I learned involving upward cuts, but I see you were just striking with the back of the sword. Thanks for sharing! (I make Katana, and other martial arts gear, and sell them all over the world, because I am too disabled to use them a lot now. They are a big part of my life)
@jessewalters5361
That’s very interesting to hear, and thanks for taking the time to comment. I provided a little history on the form in the video description, but it amounts to: “Korean noble acquiring 4 Japanese sword forms from Japan somewhere near 1690”. I believe I have another form “To Yu Ryu” on this channel from an earlier grading I did :-) In the Muyedobotongji 4 styles are documented each by a “longform”: Un Gwang Ryu, To Yu Ryu, Chon Yu Ryu and Yu Pi Ryu. In Korea these are often the last to be learned, but in Norway we start with these as they are less flashy than the Korean and Chinese sword forms.
It’s interesting to hear you make katanas. Do you have a website or a channel of your own? I’d love to see it :-)
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏽 - are my eyes deceiving me, or are there strikes/cuts using the back of the blade in that form?
@alpachinko9154 your eyes are not deceiving you. In the first sequence it uses the sharp edge, but the last sequence also makes use of the back edge. If you look at the mini picture or whatever it’s called (the title image of the video) you’ll see I’ve taken one of the postures of the form from the manual where the back edge is used :-)
@@traditionaltaekwondoramblings Interesting. I've never seen these forms before - the only weapons form from my Taekwondo days that was sporadically mentioned, was the Silla knife form, but that was only for 3°(?) and above black belts as far as I can remember.
I've done some aikido and now currently train in Okinawan Goju Ryu karate, in which we also do some Kobudo as part of our syllabus, starting at blue belt (eskrima/hanbo/tanbo)
@@alpachinko9154 compared to taekwondo kyeongdang is extremely small outside of Korea. Heck it’s pretty small inside Korea too 😂 and inside this small group of martial artists the Japanese sword forms often gets overshadowed by more flashy forms or more “Korean forms”. These forms has nothing to do with taekwondo, but kyeongdang is part of “my taekwondo” if that makes sense :-) I really enjoy the added dimension in training by using weapons, and I also enjoy the historical side to it, as well as the genuine link back in Korean history :-) We can always discuss how close to the original the interpretation of the material is, but that the material is based on the muyedobotongji is not up for debate :-) I’m happy you enjoyed the video. I’ll be sure to share more of them in the future :-)
I look forward to seeing/hearing more about the practice. Have you done videos on the history/theory side already?
I'd find that very interesting too.
@@alpachinko9154 I don’t have a video but here’s a link to an old article I wrote on the subject: jungdokwan-taekwondo.blogspot.com/2011/10/muyedobotongji-oldest-kma-manual.html?m=0 :-)
I was just watching a guy reviewing a sword shop in Tokyo... supposedly real handforged katana. They started at like $800 but the first he pulled out was $2800. Fancy construction but the blade had a fake hamon line which raised major red flags. Sometimes I put some waves on a blade with a wire brush for artistic reasons, like making a sword based off of Animé. But why would a $2800 sword have a fake hamon line. He started looking through individual parts and the saya were the same as mine, but they wanted $300 each just for the saya. Most of the parts and tsubas were ones I already have and they wanted 10X what I paid. It made me feel good to see I make nicer katana for cheaper than what they sell tourists in Japan.
It’s like martial arts instruction. There’s good and bad both within the “native country” (Japan, Korea, China depending on the martial arts in question) and abroad. You could study taekwondo in the USA and get better instruction than within Korea (or vice versa). I’m glad to hear you make a superior quality artifact (I feel bad for calling handmade swords a “product” ) :-)
@@traditionaltaekwondoramblings I grew up in a small town and martial arts schools came and went a lot. We had a jujitsu school stay open for a while after the UFC first started making Brazilian Jujitsu so huge. I could tell after a few classes his style was no good. Luckily 1 guy stuck around and had a karate school for quite a few years. It was pretty orthodox and basic, but it got us flexible, limber, in better shape, and taught us the basics. It took my good friends and myself lots of practice, training, and initiative on our own to get better. We were his first and only class to qualify for tournaments... he never had enough students who could qualify and then not long later the karate craze kind of fizzled out (late 1990s), then a lot of the associations that put on the tournaments shut down.
Karbon Steele and Wycked Scepters... maybe they wont erase this one. How ridiculous they are being.
Yeah I’ve heard the algorithm is pretty harsh on TH-cam. Many channels are losing views because they dare to display weapons too. I’ll Google your shop :-) thanks for sharing the name :-)