Pontian Dance "Sera" Argonauts Komnini in Australia 1991
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- This is my home video of the Pontian Dance group Argonauts Komnini at "Pontiaki Estia" in Melbourne Australia 1991.
They dance the ancient "Pyrrhic" dance called "Sera". Made up of 2 sections. The slow start called "Atsiapat" (a name of a village in Pontos / Karadeniz - todays Turkey) and the "Tromakton" (meaning lively / scary) part. The name "Sera" comes from a village next to Trapezounta - Trabzon in Pontos (modern Northern Turkey) were it was said the best dancers came from (and still do !!)
Then 2 of the dancers break away to dance the knife dance "Pitchiak-oin" (Turkish for knife dance). It is mentioned also by Xenophon in his book "Anabasis" that 2 Thracian soldiers danced around the fire to entertain others, one pretends to be hit and is dragged off .....
This group has danced internationally all around the world, even seen at the Athens Olympics in 2004.
The first dancer is the dance teacher Christos Theodoridis (who also was the teacher at Dora Stratu dance academy).
Their names are christos theodoridis, leonidas, dimitris gourzoulidis,panagiotis apostolidis, nikos konstantinidis, giouras savinidis, kostas savinidis
On the Ndaouly(drum) is Theodoro Kotidis who is now a well know lyra / kemence player.
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Pontian from Turkey here! I LOVE YOU ALL. Long live Greek culture!
Gardasi!
Proud Pontian from Los Angeles, CA.
Geeetings and love from Montenegro 💕
We are one and one day we will be reunited again, till then stay strong, stay Pontian.
@cafer ceker laugh all you like, reunification doesn't have to involve war but I guess if that's all you know....well then, we know what you're all about.😏
I am Pontian and I am in Australia!!! GLORY TO PONTOS!!!
and Glory to Greece !!!
HellenicWarrior ΠΟΝΤΟΣ ΑΓΑΠΩ
HellenicWarrior glory to pontos!!!!
@@giourkasliakosn434 pontus will always stay turkish, no offense :)
HellenicPatriot MATE IM A WUARTER PONTIAN FROM AUSTRALIA WHAT TOWN IN ANATOLIA/ WHAT CITY
Πόντιος και με έναν ομματ!
Perfect
Πάμε ΠΟΛΕΜΟ...
PONTOS FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!
Pontus😍🥰🤩
Χορευει η Ποντιακη ψυχη!
ΖΗΤΩ Ο ΠΟΝΤΟΣ
Να. Ζήσει ο. Πόντος
I love the Greeks Theyre awesome!!!!
Ο πόντος ζεί!!!!!!!!
Bravo reee Orea 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Greetings from Rize,
mpravo mpravo mpravo!!!!!! sta palikaria mpravo
Bu ezgiler tüylerimi diken diken ediyor.
Bu sizce tesadüf mü?
Karadeniz'den gelip geçen tüm halklara selam olsun.
Tonia...
ΝA ZISI I TONIA!!😃😃🔥🔥🔥
Thank you for posting this. I use to get dragged to Pontiaki Estia from about age 8 to about 15. I hated it back then but this vid is very nostalgic. I'm 44 now!
christos theodoridis, leonidas, dimitris gourzoulidis,panagiotis apostolidis, nikos konstantinidis, giouras savinidis, kostas savinidis
argonautes-komninoi (1991)..from kalithea Athens, Greece
Poli Poli orea!
Griechenland Oapa
Amazing! Like most Armenians, I am 20 percent Pontian.
Great upload!! 1000********Will
ORDU - TRABZON ( PONTOS ) ❤
I have been to Ordu and Trapezus. Lovely place, lovely people.
1071 s not pontos. Turks
Arygyriopolis ❤️❤️ gümüşhane
Πόντος και Σπάρτη Αδέρφια Αθάνατα
A lot of the pontians in Turkey ( black sea ) are converted to Islam 300 -400 years ago because of the ottoman Empire!!!
To all Turks...Go to the region of Black Sea & tell the people there to speak Rumca.You will never understand a word...You know why??Because is Greek language.Wake up...When Greeks lived in Pontus(Black Sea) you lived in caves !
Ok man. Keep on dreaming....
bEnTURK34-2 We existed before the Turkish people were even close to Pontos, if you actually knew history you would shut the fuck up.
max … your stupidity amazes me. We are Greek, we were settled by Greeks and were and extension of what we consider “Ancient Greek” Our people look Greek and cook food like Greek food, we speak Pontian Greek and believe in the Greek Orthodox faith. Also Greeks aren’t Slavic or Albanian, we are Greek and always have been. And shut the fuck up about the insults on Greek culture, the way we write and our own Alphabet has Greek origin. Alpha is the first letter and beta is the second. Also the fuck is wrong with homosexuals? It’s a new world and homophobia doesn’t belong here so get the fuck out of this comment section you 9 year old who thinks he knows everything.
Hallucinating much...
you are a victim of a cultural crime by kemalist policies... rumca is known everyrwhere especially by the elders all around pontus... it is because of their origin... only those who remained christians and had to leave kept their greek identity pure in their mind... the others who decided to turn into muslims just to stay in their placem, had no difference than their brothers who left... they just have been victims of this crime... deep in your heart you know its wrong... i hope you will find out soon... brother!
imagine 500 plus Macedonians on that battlefield....all dancing the Sera...while the Persians watch above...dance is older than dirt.
H Pn that would scare them as fuck
Baiaz if you listen to the very old Pontiaka songs...That exactly what happened. The macheria dance was the ' ! '
Don't mess with Macedonians.
Pontian Greeks are not Macedonians. Pontos was, is, in present day southwest Anatolia, Turkey. I will not get into the history. Or genocide. Of ethnic Greek Pontioi
This dance already existed by the Minoan time
*Romans or Greeks all same, like Ottomans for locals. Lazika, Colchis belongs to Laz, Mengreliansi Georgians and Pontians.* Proud all of them!
I know it is hard. But never lose faith. Statan is the Lord of this world. Fight him, defeat him, don't chose the easy way.
ΖΗΤΩ Ο ΠΟΝΤΟΣ ΖΗΤΩ Η ΕΛΛΑΣ
Siksara (sera) horon
So the Lazi nation are mix between Greek and Georgian ?
Hillel Paredes Half lazs lived with Greeks during Byzantine and than Trapezun.Half of them lived in Kartvelian kingdom(Georgia) In reality they are one tribe of Georgians.whom lives in Georgia they regard themselves As Kartvelians.But majority lives in turkey and of corse most of them regards themselves as turks or just lazs.Lazuri language is in group of Kartvelian(Georgian)and many word are some and understandable
. Абсолютно правилно сказано . Смес пантица и грузина ихние дети шиталис лазами. Ето было до нашей ери атуда ето исторя начинается. Лазов шитали тагда сами умни и красивие народ ..
The Pontian is an ancient Greek dialect if we speak Pontian we can understand each other with Greek people@@shalishali4461
Ande re, polla logia.
youtube =Griechischsprachige Pontier: Ömer Asan (dt Untertitel)
see this
ПОНТОС
sostos ksaderfe!
Your ancestors learned this dance from Middle East and ancient Mesopotamia, it is still today a folklore dance called debka in Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Palestine
Not so! It was identified and described as a Thracian dance by Ancient Greek sources. The dabke rhythm is different! Learn to COUNT the Number of Beats as a musician!!
The different movements and the "sameness" of all dancers' movements, the Pants, the women s head dress prove the Thracian origin described by Xenophon in the Anabasis. These Pontiakoi are Thracians who tamed the horse, invented the pants and the wheel with spokes and who came from the steppes where they composed parts of the Rig Veda believe it or not. Documented by Frits Staal and BG Tilak in The Arctic Home of the Vedas. Thracians ARE related to Minoans and Hittites.
QUITE INTERESTING ! ZEYBEK WAS ALSO A WAR DANCE.... I SUPPOSE MANY FOLKS HAD WAR DANCES....
and today Greece or Turkey is not 100 % greece or Turkish..
ist a mix oriantal asian european culture like America
if you dont believe me, go and check up your DNA
MaLiveMaRulesMaGun I have a dna test and it’s coming soon, I’ll check my Pontian Greek dna and it’ll come up as Greek
this called horon in rize XD
PROUD LAZ PEOPLE!!!!!!!
Not laz,they are Greeks
@@johny-johny8929 Brainwashed Laz ecxactly...
@@silvanobertolini5089 ακριβώς ανάποδα.
You mean proud greeks but ok if you are fucked up in mind.
@@jangofett6022 Assimilated Lazzzz! Brainwashed by Islam and Eastern Roman church!
Thats traditional Turkish Dance & Music. 🇹🇷
Called HORON.
While there is a mix of Greek and Turkish cultures and it is difficult to always determine the origins of many things, one must remember that the Ottomans were a nomadic people that did not enter Anatolia until the 13th Century. Therefore any dance, food, art, etc., that can be traced to a time prior to the the Turkish invasions clearly can not be Turkish in origin.
Horon it's a greek word and means dance that's common in any greek dialect. So you are saying that a dance 100% turkish is called with a greek name...
If you try to steal the culture of Pontians then why you genocided us
You must go to school again and learn history!!!!!!!!That's Cleary GREEC PONTIAC DAANCE
@@kassi7563there is no point in going to school again. They will teach him the same again
This is HORON 🇹🇷
Yunan abicim 🇹🇷🇬🇷
Санем Дивит This is a Greek dance 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
The Horon is 'Ο Χορόν', not even 'Ο Χορός' in the neo-Greek dialect, but 'Ο Χορόν', in the Pontian-Greek. 100% Pontian-Greek.
Therefore, you can still believe that this dance is Turkish. This is probably what Turkish educational system does. Successful propaganda.
Such a big shame, that leaders of your education didn' t even replace the name.
People behind Wikipedia also do nice propaganda.
Paid really well for this.
Horon means DANCE. This is Greek war dance called Pyrrichios.
I am not so sure if this dance by modern greeks
Με τόσο πάθος πως να μη φωγωθουμε
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yes maybe you have right, but the persian say the same about Anatolia and black see.and the Kurds too Mezopotamia, Babylon.
so who say the true?
fact is, the Greeks and Turks have in the history. and i dont speak here the 3000 years greek history. i speak here over 10.000 years Asian history where the greeks turks came from. but his Name at this time is not Greek or Turk. they are Altai (mountain) Altai or Altaians, or maybe Atlantian.
the Greeks Forget his true history.
MaLiveMaRulesMaGun who’s true history? we come from Proto-Indo European people. The Turkic people are an entire seperate group on another continent. The Turkic people do not share Dna with us since they are barbarian Mongols who were kicked out for being too disgusting
@@Kamikaziiii Kronos killed who? could you please tell me
I am a Pontian from Turkey. It is nice, to have so many sisters and brothers around the wold ❤
Sürmene den mi?
@Fotis Escobar you are welcome. It is greenest area in Turkey.
@@muratsenturk83 Giresun
@Fotis Escobar Giresun/ Kerasunta/ Kerasus
@@pontian2815 Remember you are Greek, even if you are Muslim. We miss you and love you, and keep holding onto your Pontic Greek identity, language and culture.
The pontian people are not greek. Only the people of the dynesty of Pontus state (kings) were Greeks whose origin depands on Istanbul. The folks were orthodox but not Greek. Those orthodox people emigrated to Greece anyway even though they are not Greek as Karamani Rums.
@@pontian69 Pontian people were the mixture of some caucasian folks and Cuman Turks. Only the kings and their familes were Greek. Pontian peoples' culture and characteristic features never look like Greek people.
one day you will be liberated, and you will see the lies of your turkish government
@@nurettinsarul Stop spreading bulshit. You do not know what you are talking about. Firstly, you have to answer the question: who were Ancient Greeks and then talk about what you are trying to express here. The region of Pontos has been a center of Greeks for 2500 years. Even today it has tiny % of Turkic DNA. You have to know the DNA of all those tribes who eventually formed into the Greek nation and then spread this rubbish. The Ancient Greeks were not only people from Peloponnese. So relax and enjoy the fact that they were a mixture of Aegean and Anatolian tribes, including the local populations of Black Sea who also joined the Hellenic world sometime 2500-2000 years ago. Cuman Turks did not even exist at that time. Only the kings? How about Strabo, was he a king from Is-tam-bul (Εις την πολη)?
You fool. The Greeks from Asia Minor are from Troy when Troy burned. Your Turkeys came thousands of years later. A mixture of Oriental and Arab make a Turk. You can't compare the Ionians and Dorian Greeks to a Turk, never.
Hahahaha wtf am i reading 😂😂😂 look at your face... You're slav and you're talking? Turkish is not a race but an ethnicity. You're mostly muslims from balkans. You have nothing to do with the people who came in Anatolia in 1071.
Gümüşhane=argiropolis xoron Turks dance..
Emre EDiZ YOU FUCKING DARE INSULT AGRYÓPOLIS MALAKA!!!
Yunan abicim 🇹🇷🇬🇷
Byzantine Culture
everbody in the world hate the Pontian Greek Turk dance of Blacksee.
actually its a Gerorgian Laz dance. Not Greek Not Turk.
The Greeks and Turks are Converted.
The ottoman muslims dominate greek400 years.
the arabs dominate Anatolian Turks 1000 years.
Today 2013 its a Greek Turk Arab Persian Culture.
Not original Turkish
Not original Greek
Every Turk in Turkey
and Every Greek in Greece hate me thatsway. because the True.
MaLiveMaRulesMaGun pontic Greeks...are Macedonian...who after Peloponnesian wars... became Ellas.. Greek.
this is a very ancient Macedonian dance...handed down for centuries.
+H Pn Macedonians are Greeks and pirihios was an panhellenic dance not only Macedonian or Pontic
MaLiveMaRulesMaGun The Georgians didn’t invent this dance and you can’t see your culture anywhere in this dance, it’s aa truly Greek dance of which my grandfather told me about.
You are right. The costumes and the dance it's not pure Greek. It's part of the culture of the indigenous people of Pontus. But Pontians are Greeks. They have preserve the Greek language for thousands of years. Imagine that in today's Turkey, in Pontus, old ladies speak not ancient but Archaic Greek! It's easy to find on TH-cam,uni of Cambridge made a video about it.
TURKISH DANCE EVER
Nope, this is Clearly Greek, you can hit your ass down as much as you want, history won't change no matter you try you little piece of Shit, Pontus is Greek and This Dance is Greek just like all the other Pontic dances. simple as that!!!
@@eceo.1999 No it is not as Turkish as Greek ITIS AN ANCIENT GREEK DANCE THAT YOU COPIED FROM US AND NOW YOU THINK IT IS YOURS JUST NO LEARN REAL THE STORY
turkish people always say that they came from middle asia. is this dance looking any middle asian? no. it has nothing to do with middle asia. so when they came to anatolia pontian greeks were already there and doing their dances. as turks were influenced by them they created their own version. after hundreds of years it's a bit turkish dance now, but definetely originates from pontian greeks. same thing happened in the caucasian region.
@@cgdmgl302 this is 100% hellenic. the poor turkish nacionalists hate their turkish culture so much they always try to copypase others' culture/.
@Konstandinos Gerakaris fuck you bitch
Lazlar, laz dance , ponto= laz.