lol, absolutely all of us do it and I always feel like showing that is important. I never want anyone to feel like they aren't a good pilot just because they crash, that is just part of this whole FPV thing! :)
Now that the weather is getting better I hope to get back to them! Last time I took a camera out to the field though the wind blew it over and nearly wrecked $800 worth of gear, so I have been a little leery. lol.
The best I could put it: Slowly pull the pitch stick back, keep a constant throttle (somewhere around 30-40%), watch your surroundings and when you see the ground decrease the throttle to 0% and level out.
I think the hardest part is that catch when you start applying throttle to keep the end of the loop smooth and out of dirty air for prop wash. That one does take a bit of time, but when it clicks it clicks!
Thank you!! I totally agree, if you can find a spot that has a wall or some other objects to the side for tracking it does make learning the timing much easier. That is a must for matty's, lol.
lol, it was trying to reach out and touch me. The wind kept putting me in a place I didnt want to be so I had to gracefully flick around it and make it look like I meant to :p
Great video Bacon. Still my most hesitant trick. Sometimes I pull them off but mostly just rocket straight up or do a fancy backflip. Still practicing!
it is all in the throttle control and timing, and you will get it down for sure! To be fair, sometimes that happens to me too...especially when I fail to consider the wind direction, lol.
Practicing power loops with my 5” was really not good for my wallet 😂 and now I’m practicing it with my Mobula 6 indoors and it’s hard. Stay safe and happy new year bro to you and your family
yeah it is a sneaky difficult trick that can really rack up the replacement parts bill, lol. Indoor power loops are sooooo much harder too, so if you get those down then you should be able to power loop anything!
I got the 660mah battery in my mobula7 flies like a dream but she don't like power looping unless I'm outside and Go full throttle up really high... I think I need to switch to the 350mah 😆
Very good points...trying to learn this on a sim and hadn't considered the factors you mention, and flying at a low camera angle and wide view...going to make some adjustments. BTW, amazing video, looks like a sim!
interesting story, in my first two weeks flew with a well experienced friend who was coaching me into power loops. was pulling them off perfect one by one. Well it was a fluke becuase any other time I was completely ruining them, back flips back down into object, moon shots into the sky, moon shots off to the left or right.😂 I have it down now to a science when I can power loop branches inside trees but man it too some work, practice and alot of patience. Interesting you fly at 15 degrees. crazy low. I fly around 25-35 degrees usually. Sometimes I wonder how my style would be in a lower angle. Ive always felt like a higher angle I fly alot smoother and straighter becuase it forces you to have more forward momentum and it just stuck. Great video man!
it is all in the throttle control for sure!!! I wish I had trees big enough to power loop branches on :( all of the trees here are basically big shrubs with trunks, lol. I like the low angle since I do a lot of yaw moves, which that angle is really geared to. If I were doing lots of proxy or wanted to really do pitch based moves without being so blind, I would be right there with you in the above 25 zone!
Thank you bro, and happy new year to you as well!!! I can't wait to see what 2023 brings, and I plan on starting it out with a little something special :)
Thanks for sharing this and Happy New Year btw! Power loops... sensitive subject... I can even do some quite steady orbits now, but power loops are still my nemesis. I know the explanation is probably just mere coincidence but why do I regularly have the feeling that strong wind gusts tend to ALWAYS happen just in those critical seconds and from the worst possible suddenly changing direction?😅😑 and in my location that's when I'm even lucky enough it isn't too cold and it isn't raining. But hey no excuses, next possible window of opportunity I shall try this again and apply some of this.
Happy new year to you as well!!! I am going to make you feel better and say that the wind gusts are always there, your quad is just more impacted by them in those critical seconds since usually the quad isn't belly or back to the wind until that point. You aren't making it up, it is totally real! Let me know how they go when you get the chance to try them again :)
@@BaconNinjaFPV My biggest issue with this trick is once facing the sky you have zero reference, you don't know if you're going up or down. You can actually back slame your quad and do heaps of damage. Is it really useful to wire it?
Awesome bacon,iiii need to fly..its actually starting to drive me little nutty ,no drone working,now with no gogglees need that cash to fix a rotted main beam in the house roof, lying housing inspection has broke us,hopefully thats the last main problems in the house finally.at leastt i can build whatever quad now without worrying what goggles to get for 6 months, as i have enough parts 2 build 2 or 3 spending under 100aud. i did get most of the clone geprc mark 5 finished do not buy one!!,im going to geprc add up the screws and a few other parts si it feelss more stable to thrash anyway meds are bad when typing thumbie tv rc n turns to dribble chat,my apologise, i forgot where i was going in this better go or ill rant forever .nice to see how to do that trick thanks for sharing mate!
You gotta get out there and get your sanity back my friend, lol. Are the Eachine EV800DM goggles on your list at the moment? Other than the battery life and limited resolution, they are really great cheap goggles. I always appreciate you stopping by man :)
currently i only have a bitsa, i had a moblite with a stuffed internal receiver, i coul only put the receiver on uart2 because uart1 seems to just not work, so i had to disable smart audio, this caused me to have no video because apparently the vtx needs smart audio connected to know what to do with itself, you cant just set it up then disconnect it and have it retain them settings, so i had a tinyhawk3 with a cooked esc, and i jumpered power from the moblite board to power the tinyhawk board, samwedged it all together with the tinyhawk canopy and camera with a ziptie holding them down lmao, and i added an external receiver, so now my poor little moblite weighs in at 32grams without its battery lol! i think it was like 18 or something before, so shes a bit overloaded, i put 3 blade props on and its a little better, but yeah 2 things it really dont like doing now its this heavy, 1 is power loops, because it had no power for its weight lmfao, and 2 is pulling out of a steep decent, but atleast i have something to fly while im waiting for parts for my crux35, and because of the new year ill probably be waiting a while with australian postal service, i sent stuff with express post a week ago and its still not here lol, so all i have is the mobheavy franken whoop
ah, yeah smart audio doesnt actually set anything on the VTX that gets retained. It more or less just overrides what the VTX thinks it should be doing every time the quad starts. That is one chunky moblite, but hey fly what you have and get that stick time in any way you can! I think all whoops struggle with the bottom of power loops and dives unless they were built with super high KV motors...or at least that has been my experience with them. Personally I prefer my whooping on 2S just because it doesn't tend to have those problems :) Maybe the Aus postal service will come through for you and get that crux back in the air....also it sounds like express isn't very express, lol.
@@BaconNinjaFPV the happymodel ovx303 vtx that came with the crux relys on smart audio for the frequency table so without it, it has no fallback, it really sucks, buy yeah lol its one chunky monkey, i had the mobula7 1s before i lost it in tall grass, that thing had a lot of grunt, so much fun to fly and a tank, i smashed it into so much metal at warp speed and only the canopy had some cracks the frame was super sturdy, so much faster than this current frankenwhoop but still i can fly it around basically flat out near maxed camera angle and it does it, it just has 0 in reserve if you need to quickly pull up and away but it also doesnt like the 650mah batteries now it much prefers the 450 lol still heaps of fun and stick time thats the most important part
How do I gain the confidence to do tricks fast ( as in speed of flight) without gaurds because when I had gaurds I was much less cautious and would just go for things
honestly, and I know it is an over used answer, but it really is just stick time. You will absolutely be timid with it at first, but the more you do it the more natural it feels. Just put in as many packs as you can and try to not feel discouraged by the process of getting used to it!
I used a program called Gimbal Ghost and the blackbox logs from the quad :) I have a video somewhere on my channel about how to get that done if you want to check it out.
I really like doing full-on **power**loops in the sim, maintaining near max throttle all the way. But that needs a fairly big obstacle, and I don't have the balls to try it in real life, because failing means crashing into the ground blind at full throttle 💥
lol, nothing better than finding the ground right at the bottom of one of those bad bois! I will say, in real life your pack will sag well before you could really complete one at full pull over a big obstacle though. Sims are great, but pack sag is just not something they are good at, lol. Even that loop I did over the tree line had pack sag about half way through the top portion.
I just use a USB cable, but I do have an android phone so I can natively support OTG mode. I also tend do use flight controllers that have wifi and can connect over that as well. The speedybee adapter is a great option if you have an iPhone or your android doesn't support host mode! Also, yes ELRS can do that now with the 3.X revisions :)
Cheers for the content. But I have one question.... What is your weekly bacon budget? Meat's expensive these days (or at least it is here in NZ). In all seriousness, thanks again.
lolol...ok, im gonna be 100% honest....I only eat bacon mayyyybe 3 times a year. It is just too expensive, and because of the children we tend to cook really simple and quick meals. I wish I had bacon all of the time, but instead I have to just keep calling myself baconninja and remembering what the flavor is like, lol.
So funny, all the people out there stubbornly resistant to trying 4x3 mode on 4x3 sensor FPV camera. They somehow think 16x9 will be a good setting for Freestyle FPV with Power loops, various Tricks, etc. I have seen people instantly level up their flying and stop crashing so much when they switched to actual real 4x3. This one topic needs a video for itself.
So true! Using 16x9 really does limit a pilot's potential for anything outside of the cinematic realm. I have been flying it for the past couple of weeks purely for testing the O3 system....but I am kind of sick of it, lol. I miss having all of those extra pixels above and below, as well as not having to move my eyes to the sides of the screen to see everything. I may cover this on its own at some point because I think you are right, there are some pilots out there who don't really know the limitations.
So I had been flying tiny whoops non angle mode only never flew acro then I bought a tinyhawk 2 freestyle and tried to powerloop in acro without even trying to learn because yeah I’m just that good and there just that easy NOT lmao I did nail one but it was a large loop needless to say it’s getting better or I am
Lol, to your credit, the TH2F flies so well it probably wanted to power loop on its own just cuz its so awesome! But seriously, great that you are getting them dialed in! It really is harder than it looks for this particular trick.
yeah its all good, just threw another antenna on there when I got back to the workshop, lol. Hopefully the weather lets me do a little more of these kinds of vids soon!
Fantastic video bro, i have to remember how to powerloop every time i fly.
isn't short term memory loss a side effect of.......oh never mind :p
Great display. The crash actually added to the reality of freestyle.
lol, absolutely all of us do it and I always feel like showing that is important. I never want anyone to feel like they aren't a good pilot just because they crash, that is just part of this whole FPV thing! :)
More trick tutorials please. Thank u.
Now that the weather is getting better I hope to get back to them! Last time I took a camera out to the field though the wind blew it over and nearly wrecked $800 worth of gear, so I have been a little leery. lol.
Another helpful hint is to go high 200 300ft and dive see how the quad handles when your diving aim at a target.
that is a great point! once you learn to trust your timing to get behind the object, working on dives for that smooth entry is a terrific idea.
The best I could put it:
Slowly pull the pitch stick back, keep a constant throttle (somewhere around 30-40%), watch your surroundings and when you see the ground decrease the throttle to 0% and level out.
I think the hardest part is that catch when you start applying throttle to keep the end of the loop smooth and out of dirty air for prop wash. That one does take a bit of time, but when it clicks it clicks!
Perfect demonstration on a trick that anyone into FPV should know how to do. Bravo!
Thank you!! It is staple for sure!
Another good vid!
Helpful to learn this and Matty's with a wall on the side, for reference on what's happening while you're blind.
Thank you!! I totally agree, if you can find a spot that has a wall or some other objects to the side for tracking it does make learning the timing much easier. That is a must for matty's, lol.
Bacon for New Years Eve breakfast ! Nice 👍
now all you need is some eggs and a nice piece of toast!
@@BaconNinjaFPV went for a bagel with leftover chicken parmigiana:p not the breakfast i asked for but the breakfast I deserve
@@_tcmore hey, now THAT is a breakfast!!! Sounds like it should be on a menu somewhere!
@@BaconNinjaFPV honestly it was delicious and would definitely eat it again at a restaurant. Some bbq sauce was a nice touch too
Thank you for the tips. Now my power loop is progressing a lot better 😊
That is awesome! Glad it helped you out :)
That lampost wanted to say hi i guess , nice reaction time 🙌.
lol, it was trying to reach out and touch me. The wind kept putting me in a place I didnt want to be so I had to gracefully flick around it and make it look like I meant to :p
@@BaconNinjaFPV twice,.....this sucker 🤣 and at the end it was a dumb ghostbranch paired with the wind what gotcha busted.I would say? Dang it
Great video Bacon. Still my most hesitant trick. Sometimes I pull them off but mostly just rocket straight up or do a fancy backflip. Still practicing!
it is all in the throttle control and timing, and you will get it down for sure! To be fair, sometimes that happens to me too...especially when I fail to consider the wind direction, lol.
😂 same mate
Really appreciate your content BN 🤝🤝🤝
I love making it, and i appreciate you being here for it! :)
Great Tutorial! Thank you! 👍🙂
Practicing power loops with my 5” was really not good for my wallet 😂 and now I’m practicing it with my Mobula 6 indoors and it’s hard.
Stay safe and happy new year bro to you and your family
yeah it is a sneaky difficult trick that can really rack up the replacement parts bill, lol. Indoor power loops are sooooo much harder too, so if you get those down then you should be able to power loop anything!
I got the 660mah battery in my mobula7 flies like a dream but she don't like power looping unless I'm outside and Go full throttle up really high... I think I need to switch to the 350mah 😆
@@UNLOCKEDANDOVERCLOCK I’m using the Tatu 300mAh works great for me on both my fractal 65 and 75
Very good points...trying to learn this on a sim and hadn't considered the factors you mention, and flying at a low camera angle and wide view...going to make some adjustments. BTW, amazing video, looks like a sim!
Really fantastic tips, dude! Thanks a bunch! 😃
Amazing flying as always!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
And happy new year!
Thank you bro!! Happy new year to you as well :)
thanks so much for making this video, great stuff!!!!
You are very very welcome! It was fun to make...even if I did have to fix a quad when I got home, lol.
interesting story, in my first two weeks flew with a well experienced friend who was coaching me into power loops. was pulling them off perfect one by one. Well it was a fluke becuase any other time I was completely ruining them, back flips back down into object, moon shots into the sky, moon shots off to the left or right.😂 I have it down now to a science when I can power loop branches inside trees but man it too some work, practice and alot of patience. Interesting you fly at 15 degrees. crazy low. I fly around 25-35 degrees usually. Sometimes I wonder how my style would be in a lower angle. Ive always felt like a higher angle I fly alot smoother and straighter becuase it forces you to have more forward momentum and it just stuck. Great video man!
it is all in the throttle control for sure!!! I wish I had trees big enough to power loop branches on :( all of the trees here are basically big shrubs with trunks, lol. I like the low angle since I do a lot of yaw moves, which that angle is really geared to. If I were doing lots of proxy or wanted to really do pitch based moves without being so blind, I would be right there with you in the above 25 zone!
Very nice, man. Thanks 👍
Thank you for checking it out!
Very thorough and informative video. Thank you! Keep it up brother!
You are very welcome, and I appreciate you very much for checking it out!
Thanks!
Awesome video thanks for all your videos always make me laugh while learning something Godspeed
Happy New Year, 🥓
I like the tutorial vid format👍Looking forward to your new content in 2023 👊
Thank you bro, and happy new year to you as well!!! I can't wait to see what 2023 brings, and I plan on starting it out with a little something special :)
Thanks for sharing this and Happy New Year btw!
Power loops... sensitive subject...
I can even do some quite steady orbits now, but power loops are still my nemesis.
I know the explanation is probably just mere coincidence but why do I regularly have the feeling that strong wind gusts tend to ALWAYS happen just in those critical seconds and from the worst possible suddenly changing direction?😅😑 and in my location that's when I'm even lucky enough it isn't too cold and it isn't raining.
But hey no excuses, next possible window of opportunity I shall try this again and apply some of this.
Happy new year to you as well!!! I am going to make you feel better and say that the wind gusts are always there, your quad is just more impacted by them in those critical seconds since usually the quad isn't belly or back to the wind until that point. You aren't making it up, it is totally real! Let me know how they go when you get the chance to try them again :)
Great points! I learned a bunch. 👍
Thank you!! I am glad you found something in this useful :)
Fantastic video
Thank you!! Now I have to go put an ELRS antenna on my quad.......lol
Thx for that!
Please generate subtitles ;)
Thank you :)
Great howto. 👍👍
Thank you!!
@@BaconNinjaFPV My biggest issue with this trick is once facing the sky you have zero reference, you don't know if you're going up or down. You can actually back slame your quad and do heaps of damage.
Is it really useful to wire it?
Please. How did you do the Sticks on screen?
What is your camera tilt ? I mean while you do your regular freestyle . Thanks
Awesome bacon,iiii need to fly..its actually starting to drive me little nutty ,no drone working,now with no gogglees need that cash to fix a rotted main beam in the house roof, lying housing inspection has broke us,hopefully thats the last main problems in the house finally.at leastt i can build whatever quad now without worrying what goggles to get for 6 months, as i have enough parts 2 build 2 or 3 spending under 100aud. i did get most of the clone geprc mark 5 finished do not buy one!!,im going to geprc add up the screws and a few other parts si it feelss more stable to thrash anyway meds are bad when typing thumbie tv rc n turns to dribble chat,my apologise, i forgot where i was going in this better go or ill rant forever .nice to see how to do that trick thanks for sharing mate!
You gotta get out there and get your sanity back my friend, lol. Are the Eachine EV800DM goggles on your list at the moment? Other than the battery life and limited resolution, they are really great cheap goggles. I always appreciate you stopping by man :)
@@BaconNinjaFPV will hhave a looksee,thank u!
currently i only have a bitsa, i had a moblite with a stuffed internal receiver, i coul only put the receiver on uart2 because uart1 seems to just not work, so i had to disable smart audio, this caused me to have no video because apparently the vtx needs smart audio connected to know what to do with itself, you cant just set it up then disconnect it and have it retain them settings, so i had a tinyhawk3 with a cooked esc, and i jumpered power from the moblite board to power the tinyhawk board, samwedged it all together with the tinyhawk canopy and camera with a ziptie holding them down lmao, and i added an external receiver, so now my poor little moblite weighs in at 32grams without its battery lol! i think it was like 18 or something before, so shes a bit overloaded, i put 3 blade props on and its a little better, but yeah 2 things it really dont like doing now its this heavy, 1 is power loops, because it had no power for its weight lmfao, and 2 is pulling out of a steep decent, but atleast i have something to fly while im waiting for parts for my crux35, and because of the new year ill probably be waiting a while with australian postal service, i sent stuff with express post a week ago and its still not here lol, so all i have is the mobheavy franken whoop
ah, yeah smart audio doesnt actually set anything on the VTX that gets retained. It more or less just overrides what the VTX thinks it should be doing every time the quad starts. That is one chunky moblite, but hey fly what you have and get that stick time in any way you can! I think all whoops struggle with the bottom of power loops and dives unless they were built with super high KV motors...or at least that has been my experience with them. Personally I prefer my whooping on 2S just because it doesn't tend to have those problems :) Maybe the Aus postal service will come through for you and get that crux back in the air....also it sounds like express isn't very express, lol.
@@BaconNinjaFPV the happymodel ovx303 vtx that came with the crux relys on smart audio for the frequency table so without it, it has no fallback, it really sucks, buy yeah lol its one chunky monkey, i had the mobula7 1s before i lost it in tall grass, that thing had a lot of grunt, so much fun to fly and a tank, i smashed it into so much metal at warp speed and only the canopy had some cracks the frame was super sturdy, so much faster than this current frankenwhoop but still i can fly it around basically flat out near maxed camera angle and it does it, it just has 0 in reserve if you need to quickly pull up and away but it also doesnt like the 650mah batteries now it much prefers the 450 lol still heaps of fun and stick time thats the most important part
Do you use same rates on both quads?
How do I gain the confidence to do tricks fast ( as in speed of flight) without gaurds because when I had gaurds I was much less cautious and would just go for things
honestly, and I know it is an over used answer, but it really is just stick time. You will absolutely be timid with it at first, but the more you do it the more natural it feels. Just put in as many packs as you can and try to not feel discouraged by the process of getting used to it!
@@BaconNinjaFPV ok thank u very much
Hey bro how do you get the controls on to the screen 👍
I used a program called Gimbal Ghost and the blackbox logs from the quad :) I have a video somewhere on my channel about how to get that done if you want to check it out.
Ya I have tried to power loop a tiny whoop. BAD IDEA, it crashed, they do not have enough power.
I really like doing full-on **power**loops in the sim, maintaining near max throttle all the way. But that needs a fairly big obstacle, and I don't have the balls to try it in real life, because failing means crashing into the ground blind at full throttle 💥
lol, nothing better than finding the ground right at the bottom of one of those bad bois! I will say, in real life your pack will sag well before you could really complete one at full pull over a big obstacle though. Sims are great, but pack sag is just not something they are good at, lol. Even that loop I did over the tree line had pack sag about half way through the top portion.
Do you use the speedy bee adapter to configure Betaflight in the field?
you can use elrs now too
I just use a USB cable, but I do have an android phone so I can natively support OTG mode. I also tend do use flight controllers that have wifi and can connect over that as well. The speedybee adapter is a great option if you have an iPhone or your android doesn't support host mode! Also, yes ELRS can do that now with the 3.X revisions :)
Cheers for the content. But I have one question.... What is your weekly bacon budget? Meat's expensive these days (or at least it is here in NZ). In all seriousness, thanks again.
lolol...ok, im gonna be 100% honest....I only eat bacon mayyyybe 3 times a year. It is just too expensive, and because of the children we tend to cook really simple and quick meals. I wish I had bacon all of the time, but instead I have to just keep calling myself baconninja and remembering what the flavor is like, lol.
@@BaconNinjaFPV I feel you, brother...
So funny, all the people out there stubbornly resistant to trying 4x3 mode on 4x3 sensor FPV camera. They somehow think 16x9 will be a good setting for Freestyle FPV with Power loops, various Tricks, etc. I have seen people instantly level up their flying and stop crashing so much when they switched to actual real 4x3. This one topic needs a video for itself.
So true! Using 16x9 really does limit a pilot's potential for anything outside of the cinematic realm. I have been flying it for the past couple of weeks purely for testing the O3 system....but I am kind of sick of it, lol. I miss having all of those extra pixels above and below, as well as not having to move my eyes to the sides of the screen to see everything. I may cover this on its own at some point because I think you are right, there are some pilots out there who don't really know the limitations.
So I had been flying tiny whoops non angle mode only never flew acro then I bought a tinyhawk 2 freestyle and tried to powerloop in acro without even trying to learn because yeah I’m just that good and there just that easy NOT lmao I did nail one but it was a large loop needless to say it’s getting better or I am
Lol, to your credit, the TH2F flies so well it probably wanted to power loop on its own just cuz its so awesome! But seriously, great that you are getting them dialed in! It really is harder than it looks for this particular trick.
Sorry you broke ya elrs. But that was 🔥Hella dope 🤟 real life sh*t.
yeah its all good, just threw another antenna on there when I got back to the workshop, lol. Hopefully the weather lets me do a little more of these kinds of vids soon!
Throttle control ease on ease off..
throttle control is king for this one, that is for sure!
Nice hair dude. And cool beard. No homo. Lol.
lol, I keep it this way so that I can do it myself at home....I truly despise going to a place to have a stranger touch me with metal implements, lol.
I’m just Trina roll 😂😂
rolls on rolls on rolls! dont forget the butter :p
Still one of my favorite spots for big power loops! Not that I'm the expert either, but I do enjoy them.
th-cam.com/video/gqTpmP8Sm40/w-d-xo.html
gotta love a nice big power loop in a tree line break!!!!