Wing chun in a fight... aka modern JKD (also combining other arts). The RAT technique is literally ripped straight from wing chun, and a you can see, even in controlled sparring it's effective. Reasons i point and laugh when people say wing chun isn't effective... they say that because they fail to understand what range wing chun is meant for. It's not for striking range, or clinching. It's a transitory range between the two. Bridging the gap between those two... that's what practically everything in wing chun is trying to accomplish. It's an entire martial art focused on that specific range. Which sounds completely useless, if you're considering it ON ITS OWN. "Hurr MMA shows it's useless". No shit. You're comparing MIXED martial arts to ONE martial art. It's already last, because it's not a fair comparison. Trying learning and mixing wing chun into the rest of your skill set. Then come back and talk to me.
I'd rather use 52 blocks, more practical against multiple people in a small space. What I found from wing chun, is that it compliments other fighting styles like boxing
Of coarse wing chun works in sparring , but it’s used as an element of surprise not as a tactic of letting your opponent know, “hey by the way I’m about to wing chun you” You’re supposed to apply it like any other martial art tactic, with the correct timing.
@@CageCombatandFitness It's because people Don't know how to learn and only do what is popular. I use Chi Sou alot, ot sets up Kimuras, Parrying and so on. Kung Fu works but in certain areas of fighting. Lime gow boxing doesn't work on the ground.
This is literally showing people it can work in sparring not turning on the camera out of nowhere during a spar sesh and the dude uses his wing chun training
Bruce Lee won the Hong Kong highschool boxing championship using wing chun. This was a time when HK was under English rule and Boxing was white people sport, however Bruce won so decisively not even the British judges could rig it. Bruce Lees opponent was a reigning British (white) person too. Bruce KO him with Wing Chun punch
Show us Wing Chun for Ground and Pound instead, it's way more effective and also part of the evolution for MMA's GnP (alongside KEYSI). I personally find Half guard is the best for wing chun, the Angles are better.
@@KevinLeeVlog Me and some old training partners used to try working it out as Ground and Pound is still primitive in mma compared to stamd up striking. Chi sou works well, Chain punches are ridiculously effective.
@@KevinLeeVlog I am curious of what else you can add as you seem to pick things up very fast. Let me know if you ever work on things, i reckon you'll do a good job
@@KevinLeeVlog also chi sou to Top Wristlock (catch wrestling) is a Sneaky combo people never see coming from any position on the ground. Sorry, i am happy someone else finally agrees and doesn't disgard kung fu. Btw i also found a way to make Aikido work, it's super effective
I use wing chun on ground work for specific guards. I like to utilize wingchun and muay thai technique within the transitional phases as well. I also find it easier to set up the hook after the pressure applied within the wing chun trapping as well.
Incredible Wing Chun techniques and movements not bad I wish I could have been doing this in karate looks so fun and awesome and a better way to defend yourself exceptionally very impressive an incredible I just wish I had a chance to take my training back by karate training back more than anything 🥋☯️🙏😌🙏☯️🥋
Idk, those downward hammer fists.. even when they land like the first one, what do they do?? Is it just to increase your punch stats? It looks like they have less power than a jab would, are slower, and leave you more defensively compromised. And that's when done by an expert, pro mma fighter too. If he can't make them work, who could? Maybe a roy jones jr. / GSP level freak athlete I guess... I could see someone saying a double lead hook is stupid and couldn't work, yet Roy Jones Jr. made it work to great effect. But I'm not convinced just by these examples of that hammer fist. The bunches of punches is great though and has obvious utility
Also, are the guys he's testing these on also pro mma fighters? Because a pro fighter vs hobbyists can make literally any technique work, even aikido. It has to be tested at an equalish competitive level.
what hammer fist are u talking about? those are straight blast, they are effective if ur opponent is on the ground, they can also be used to apply pressure i personally do 5 into an elbow or front kick
Win Chung is useless unless close quarters and your opponent doesn't have any defense, that's why Bruce Lee started to train in other disciplines since win Chung isnt the best for fighting
Wing Chun looks like cat fighting imo. Big fan of MMA and martial arts. Wing Chun seems ineffective against most of nog all martial arts. Effective in clinch range maybe. Looks cool though
NEVER use WC for sparing. Ex sifu - it's a concept not a style. You will get destroyed against a striker or grappler. WC is a bridging system of the arm essentially which is useful in a standing fist fight. If you know BJJ you can encorperate Chi Sao concepts to the ground- but not literally move for move . Bruce Lee realized its limitations & invented MMA before it was acceptable to mix fighting systems.
Jeffs personal style before he did wing chun he used trapping techniques with no relation to WC.... pretty effective where hed trap the his opponents guard to create opening for punches, kicks and knees..... and probably he has own flow to grappling takedowns and such.... all beautifully shown in live sparring .....
If you want to see a masterful martial artist testing his wing chun against another champion caliber martial artist watch Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisbing. It’s unsaid, but I know Anderson was testing his Wing Chun out in the octagon. An it was truly awesome to see. Wing Chun can be effective. It works even better with fingerless gloves or no gloves so you can grab and hand trap more easily. Cool vid Jeff.
I have a ton of fun using wing chun in sparring. It's great to work with a boxer or a taekwondo fan and share knowledge.
Wing chun in a fight... aka modern JKD (also combining other arts). The RAT technique is literally ripped straight from wing chun, and a you can see, even in controlled sparring it's effective.
Reasons i point and laugh when people say wing chun isn't effective... they say that because they fail to understand what range wing chun is meant for. It's not for striking range, or clinching. It's a transitory range between the two. Bridging the gap between those two... that's what practically everything in wing chun is trying to accomplish.
It's an entire martial art focused on that specific range. Which sounds completely useless, if you're considering it ON ITS OWN. "Hurr MMA shows it's useless". No shit. You're comparing MIXED martial arts to ONE martial art. It's already last, because it's not a fair comparison. Trying learning and mixing wing chun into the rest of your skill set. Then come back and talk to me.
Most who try and use wing chun don't learn the whole system. Even the higher forms that use weapons, have empty hand applications
I laugh at this to its a close range style id hate to fight someone in a bathroom who knows wing chun
I'd rather use 52 blocks, more practical against multiple people in a small space. What I found from wing chun, is that it compliments other fighting styles like boxing
Of coarse wing chun works in sparring , but it’s used as an element of surprise not as a tactic of letting your opponent know, “hey by the way I’m about to wing chun you”
You’re supposed to apply it like any other martial art tactic, with the correct timing.
Or you can be SMART and use it as Ground and Pound. You can also use Chi Sou when you're hand wrestling.
@@i_GiveFRUIT I like chi sou, people don’t always bring it up 👍🏾
@@CageCombatandFitness It's because people Don't know how to learn and only do what is popular. I use Chi Sou alot, ot sets up Kimuras, Parrying and so on. Kung Fu works but in certain areas of fighting. Lime gow boxing doesn't work on the ground.
This is literally showing people it can work in sparring not turning on the camera out of nowhere during a spar sesh and the dude uses his wing chun training
the last kick is the game changer for bruce lee from learning wing chun from ip
Bruce Lee won the Hong Kong highschool boxing championship using wing chun. This was a time when HK was under English rule and Boxing was white people sport, however Bruce won so decisively not even the British judges could rig it. Bruce Lees opponent was a reigning British (white) person too. Bruce KO him with Wing Chun punch
Show us Wing Chun for Ground and Pound instead, it's way more effective and also part of the evolution for MMA's GnP (alongside KEYSI). I personally find Half guard is the best for wing chun, the Angles are better.
I have been thinking about this too!!
@@KevinLeeVlog Me and some old training partners used to try working it out as Ground and Pound is still primitive in mma compared to stamd up striking. Chi sou works well, Chain punches are ridiculously effective.
@@KevinLeeVlog I am curious of what else you can add as you seem to pick things up very fast. Let me know if you ever work on things, i reckon you'll do a good job
@@KevinLeeVlog also chi sou to Top Wristlock (catch wrestling) is a Sneaky combo people never see coming from any position on the ground. Sorry, i am happy someone else finally agrees and doesn't disgard kung fu. Btw i also found a way to make Aikido work, it's super effective
I use wing chun on ground work for specific guards. I like to utilize wingchun and muay thai technique within the transitional phases as well. I also find it easier to set up the hook after the pressure applied within the wing chun trapping as well.
tony Ferguson used some in fights to land elbows, it’s very situational though
Wing chun works if you don't stand still.
Because you're sparring mma, not kungfu
Incredible Wing Chun techniques and movements not bad I wish I could have been doing this in karate looks so fun and awesome and a better way to defend yourself exceptionally very impressive an incredible I just wish I had a chance to take my training back by karate training back more than anything 🥋☯️🙏😌🙏☯️🥋
The only useful ones are the carry + punch/whip, and the blocking techniques
Idk, those downward hammer fists.. even when they land like the first one, what do they do?? Is it just to increase your punch stats? It looks like they have less power than a jab would, are slower, and leave you more defensively compromised. And that's when done by an expert, pro mma fighter too. If he can't make them work, who could? Maybe a roy jones jr. / GSP level freak athlete I guess... I could see someone saying a double lead hook is stupid and couldn't work, yet Roy Jones Jr. made it work to great effect. But I'm not convinced just by these examples of that hammer fist. The bunches of punches is great though and has obvious utility
Also, are the guys he's testing these on also pro mma fighters? Because a pro fighter vs hobbyists can make literally any technique work, even aikido. It has to be tested at an equalish competitive level.
what hammer fist are u talking about? those are straight blast, they are effective if ur opponent is on the ground, they can also be used to apply pressure i personally do 5 into an elbow or front kick
The gloves are a big problem for wing chun
If your gonna pak sau actually pak dont just patty cake the other persons hand 🖐️
🤣🤣🤣useles
Not Wing Chun
That was just a simple catch and shoot. In Boxing you catch the jab then shoot the jab.
lol, this is wc in sparring ??? lol, God help us
No it’s not
Wing chun looks dumb and no power
Watch some real wing Chun you will think twice
Win Chung is useless unless close quarters and your opponent doesn't have any defense, that's why Bruce Lee started to train in other disciplines since win Chung isnt the best for fighting
wing chun is adaptable and can be used against anything. It all comes down to how determined the fighter is
Gonna take a lot of convincing……..
Wing Chun looks like cat fighting imo. Big fan of MMA and martial arts. Wing Chun seems ineffective against most of nog all martial arts. Effective in clinch range maybe. Looks cool though
well, its adaptable so it does work against anything, if the practicioner is good enough
NEVER use WC for sparing. Ex sifu - it's a concept not a style. You will get destroyed against a striker or grappler. WC is a bridging system of the arm essentially which is useful in a standing fist fight. If you know BJJ you can encorperate Chi Sao concepts to the ground- but not literally move for move . Bruce Lee realized its limitations & invented MMA before it was acceptable to mix fighting systems.
This is terrible 😮
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lame
I like the way Anderson Silva used wing chung in MMA!😊
Jeffs personal style before he did wing chun he used trapping techniques with no relation to WC.... pretty effective where hed trap the his opponents guard to create opening for punches, kicks and knees..... and probably he has own flow to grappling takedowns and such.... all beautifully shown in live sparring .....
Νοw is better
Get a legit boxer in there to spar
fist on fist (no gloves) the boxer will get hurt!
Dawg jeff chan is a pro mma fighter. Pls stfu
If you want to see a masterful martial artist testing his wing chun against another champion caliber martial artist watch Anderson Silva vs Michael Bisbing. It’s unsaid, but I know Anderson was testing his Wing Chun out in the octagon. An it was truly awesome to see. Wing Chun can be effective. It works even better with fingerless gloves or no gloves so you can grab and hand trap more easily. Cool vid Jeff.
Wing chun work in sparring with beginer😂😂😂
works against any fighting style as its adaptable