The wrong nuts can kill you! Friend of mine bought used pickup with aftermarket wheels and drove for 6 months before his rt.frt. wheel fell off while passing a car while towing a boat.The lug nuts he thought were tight were bottoming out on back of stud and not clamping wheel shearing all the studs off.Luckily he just went into a front yard with boat and nobody hurt.
One of my wheels fell off while I was driving down the road because the lug nuts weren't the correct ones for the type of rims I have. Luckily I was able to pull over without crashing. Now I'm in tbe process of trying out various different lug nut types and lengths with and without washer/spacers until I can determine what works for the rims not to fall off. I should have suspected something was fishy when I bought the car and there were several different types of lug nut on each wheel in varying lengths.
thank you thank you so much for the detail info. not even pepboys, auto zone representatives knew this info. to bad it cost me a nasty dent on my ford bed side as the wheel came off.
Autozone and O reillys didn't have the lug nuts I need so I went to a tire shop and they didn't know which lug nuts my car needs so now I'm trying out various lug nuts until I find ones that work. So far I've had one of my rear wheels fall off while traveling at a low rate of speed so I've been able to eliminate one type of lug nut not to use.
Found out not all 60 degree conical lugs are the same. GM and Ford are different, where they start the taper, I can spin on a GM lug onto my 08 Torrent 6 or more turns by hand before it makes contact, while the Ford are lucky to make 4 turns. So when they replace your lugs due to a swollen cap, you need to make sure they actually pull enough threads, and with closed cap and using air tools, how does one know? So I opted for open ended lugs, they seem to have the threads start a tad closer to end as most lugs that claim they are solid, are referring to solid metal, not 1 piece, they still have a cap over the lug if you look close enough, Now some are actual solid, you can tell when one is in your hand, the balance of it, how the threads start at the end of the lug not in a few MM. I bought some lugs that claimed they were both Ford n GM and thought they were working until I torqued them down and noticed I could get them to spin a little every time they were retorqued, so I pulled one off, spun on by hand, counted the turns, and grabbed one of the OEM lugs and found out the OEM spun on 2-3 full turns more before starting to seat. I was going to try and 'carbon paper' the seats and look for contact pattern on the lugs, but just looking at them visually you could see the OEM were a tad smaller at the tip, so they fit into the seat deeper.. Wish aftermarket makers of lugs were aware of this as I do not feel like replacing all the studs on my hubs, but this may be the only options when they are short and the lugs too fat...
Perhaps a tool to cut the seats a tad deeper. These were chrome plated aluminum 5 spoke on the Torrent I mentioned above that I found this issue with, but OEM lugs did seat deeper... Is there such a tool we could have for our shop?
Titanium lug nuts are perfect 👌😁 Titanium lug nuts are 29% stronger and nearly 50% lighter than steel which results in a decreased rotational wheel mass. I know where can you get it at a great price 😁😁
Why does the brand new 6 point line drive socket i just bought to tight for thease 20 inch rims on my GMC denali? The lug can't be confused with any of the others here anyone?
thanks for this video, I purchaced a set of 16x10" ion alloy 171 wheels, for my 2001 toyota sequoia, ,, please what kind of lug nut should I use for this? thanks
Hi Mario, These Dorman studs should do the trick-they’re commonly used on late-model Challengers, Chargers, 300s, etc. to accommodate aftermarket wheels and spacers. As a rule of thumb, the length of thread engaged in the lug nut should be at least equal to the diameter of the thread. So, since these are 14mm diameter studs, you need at least 14mm of thread length engaged in your lug nuts. www.summitracing.com/parts/rnb-610-509
I swapped my lugs for the spline drive. The splin are a little smaller footprint on the wheel but same 60º. Can I run the spline ones even tho its a little smaller footprint?
I have 2 sets of lugs, both have the right tapered end for the conical seat but one set is an acorn design and the other is a normal looking nut. Is there a difference between the 2 besides looking nicer?
I have a 2000 acura tl.. I am looking to purchase aftermarket lug nuts but i have stock rims i have read that it isnt good to do that what can i do if i want to keep my stock rims but have diff color lug nuts or how do i find the right lugs for my specific rims?
These will require a Conical seat - 45 degree lug nut. Here is a link to the correct ones www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/lug-nuts/lug-nut-seat-style/conical-seat-45-degree/universal/yes/lug-nut-head-style/standard/open-end-design/yes?N=open-end-design%3Ayes&SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Ascending you will just need to choose the proper wheel stud thread size form the narrow your results option on the left side of the page.
@@Michael-jm5ix in that case you got to run adapters to use those wheels. I know some guys called lug nut king (909) 346 8011 they specialize in wheel accessories they can make them in the infinity bolt pattern for your mustang car.
@@carlosking0167 I think both cars are 5x114.3, the main question is will the M14 bolt fit in a wheel that was original made for an M12 stud? My goal is not to change the Studs. I'm hoping the oem wheels that were made for an infiniti q60 with M12 stud vehicle will have enough room the M14 studs, As i will use spacers Bore size is not an issue.
@@Michael-jm5ix the 14 bolt is thicker than the 12 mm stud, the diameter of the 12 will always be smaller than the diameter of a 14 mm, thats why I am saying their is no way unless you do a wheel stud conversion from 14 thread pitch to 12 thread pitch, as that is one solution too. The safests option is to do a wheel studs conversion a guy from ebay called lugnutkingiv hooked me up with a wheel studs conversion that worked perfectly.. they screw in from the hub.. tbh they are my go to guys since they know more than I do.
Just purchased 18" enkei EDR9 wheels and was wondering what lug nuts to use on my 2006 eclipse gt? My muteki sr48 lug nuts seems to be too thick to fit in the lug nut hole of the rim.
Hi Jared Guzman, Most likely the wall thickness of your socket is causing the issue. You could try a thin wall chrome socket or a spline drive type of lug nut as shown in the link: www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/lug-nuts/lug-nut-thread-size/12mm-x-1-50-rh/brand/mcgard
I bought a pair of Dorman 711-225 lug nut lock set (1/2 20). On the rear, they fit fine but on the front tires they are too short and I can't tighten the wheel down all the way as the threading goes through the middle and hits the key preventing me from locking it down. Any recommendations on what to do?
Subtitle blocks the lug nuts size. BTW, I bought a new rims for 14 mustang and my stock doesn't fit. I think its 1/2 20. may I know what type of lug nuts I need? will skim one fit?
+Nick RAOL, The wheel stud size is 1/2in. X 20 but your new wheels may take a specific lug nut. Give us a call and we can help you find the right ones. 1-330-630-0240.
I want to buy new aftermarket lug nuts same as the original becausr mine are rusted. What should I be aware of when buying so the new ones don't get rusty. The good ones have some kind of coating that i should be searching for??
I would make sure they are triple nickel chrome plated in silver or block, or go with a stainless lug nut. McGard lug nuts offer a lifetime warranty against rust!
Goddamit I bought some new rims and the fucking lug nuts wont tighten amymore on my new rims im hella pissed what should I do its like there isnt enough thread anymore and they do not tighten all the way on a 1988 chevy s 10 rwd 2door single cab 2.8 v6
Yes, you can paint them but the paint will most likely scratched up from the socket. If you do paint them, don't get paint on the seat area where they contact the wheel. Paint can get soft if the wheels get hot, leading to loose lug nuts. Also, if they are chrome lug nuts you will need to strip the chrome first.
I have conflicting information. I thought the torque specification was 100 FtLbs as most light duty vehicles are for my 2015 Ford Edge Sort AWD 21" stock wheels. But discount tire showed me their computer system shows it at 165 Ftlbs. What should I do? Does that extra 65 Ftlbs make a huge diffrence? When I was a tech in the early days we would just run them on with the 1/2" air gun and call it good lol.
Yes, for the 2015 Ford Edge Ford does recommend 162 lt/lb in the factory manual. This would be when using factory Ford wheels and lug nuts. This sec should be located in the vehicles factory manual or by contacting your local Ford dealer.
Today Mike is going to talk to us about Nut sizes.
The wrong nuts can kill you! Friend of mine bought used pickup with aftermarket wheels and drove for 6 months before his rt.frt. wheel fell off while passing a car while towing a boat.The lug nuts he thought were tight were bottoming out on back of stud and not clamping wheel shearing all the studs off.Luckily he just went into a front yard with boat and nobody hurt.
This is just plain nuts. All these different sizes drives me nuts.
joe roth I would sacrifice my firstborn if it meant never seeing a joke like this again.
I have watched many TH-cam videos, NONE say what size socket or lug nut is which brings me to wonder if anyone knows ?
One of my wheels fell off while I was driving down the road because the lug nuts weren't the correct ones for the type of rims I have. Luckily I was able to pull over without crashing. Now I'm in tbe process of trying out various different lug nut types and lengths with and without washer/spacers until I can determine what works for the rims not to fall off. I should have suspected something was fishy when I bought the car and there were several different types of lug nut on each wheel in varying lengths.
thank you thank you so much for the detail info. not even pepboys, auto zone representatives knew this info. to bad it cost me a nasty dent on my ford bed side as the wheel came off.
Autozone and O reillys didn't have the lug nuts I need so I went to a tire shop and they didn't know which lug nuts my car needs so now I'm trying out various lug nuts until I find ones that work. So far I've had one of my rear wheels fall off while traveling at a low rate of speed so I've been able to eliminate one type of lug nut not to use.
Look at all those CHROME RIMMZZZZZZ back there.
Found out not all 60 degree conical lugs are the same. GM and Ford are different, where they start the taper, I can spin on a GM lug onto my 08 Torrent 6 or more turns by hand before it makes contact, while the Ford are lucky to make 4 turns. So when they replace your lugs due to a swollen cap, you need to make sure they actually pull enough threads, and with closed cap and using air tools, how does one know? So I opted for open ended lugs, they seem to have the threads start a tad closer to end as most lugs that claim they are solid, are referring to solid metal, not 1 piece, they still have a cap over the lug if you look close enough, Now some are actual solid, you can tell when one is in your hand, the balance of it, how the threads start at the end of the lug not in a few MM. I bought some lugs that claimed they were both Ford n GM and thought they were working until I torqued them down and noticed I could get them to spin a little every time they were retorqued, so I pulled one off, spun on by hand, counted the turns, and grabbed one of the OEM lugs and found out the OEM spun on 2-3 full turns more before starting to seat. I was going to try and 'carbon paper' the seats and look for contact pattern on the lugs, but just looking at them visually you could see the OEM were a tad smaller at the tip, so they fit into the seat deeper.. Wish aftermarket makers of lugs were aware of this as I do not feel like replacing all the studs on my hubs, but this may be the only options when they are short and the lugs too fat...
Perhaps a tool to cut the seats a tad deeper. These were chrome plated aluminum 5 spoke on the Torrent I mentioned above that I found this issue with, but OEM lugs did seat deeper... Is there such a tool we could have for our shop?
Titanium lug nuts are perfect 👌😁 Titanium lug nuts are 29% stronger and nearly 50% lighter than steel which results in a decreased rotational wheel mass. I know where can you get it at a great price 😁😁
i just purchased weld racing rear 15x10 and front 15x4 what lenght shank lug nuts do i need?
What is the meaning of the first number and second one in lug nut sizes? for example: 1/2" x 20
He's referring to the thread size. 1/2" x 20 means 1/2" diameter and 20 threads per inch (TPI).
Why does the brand new 6 point line drive socket i just bought to tight for thease 20 inch rims on my GMC denali? The lug can't be confused with any of the others here anyone?
I cant tell if that rim on the right is glitching through the table, or if its cut in half.
thanks for this video, I purchaced a set of 16x10" ion alloy 171 wheels, for my 2001 toyota sequoia, ,, please what kind of lug nut should I use for this? thanks
+Ikenna Ihegbu,
That wheel requires a conical seat lug nut and your truck requires a 14 x 1.5mm thread.
Hello, could you please help me understand the standard locknuts fit size for most cars?
Hey so I order wheels that have a bolt pattern of 5x112 what lug would I need ?
For example for a Camry of 1996 what would it be the lug nuts
Can someone help me please what lug nuts are for enkei edr9 rims
I own a dodge challenger 2010. Studs to short for mag wheels. Missing just a bit on Studs. What extensions do I need? About 1/8 inch to short
Hi Mario,
These Dorman studs should do the trick-they’re commonly used on late-model Challengers, Chargers, 300s, etc. to accommodate aftermarket wheels and spacers. As a rule of thumb, the length of thread engaged in the lug nut should be at least equal to the diameter of the thread. So, since these are 14mm diameter studs, you need at least 14mm of thread length engaged in your lug nuts.
www.summitracing.com/parts/rnb-610-509
I swapped my lugs for the spline drive. The splin are a little smaller footprint on the wheel but same 60º. Can I run the spline ones even tho its a little smaller footprint?
Yes, they can be used. The spline drive was designed to be smaller in diameter to fit the smaller lug openings in many aftermarket wheels.
Yes, they can be used. The spline drive was designed to be smaller in diameter to fit the smaller lug openings in many aftermarket wheels.
I have 2 sets of lugs, both have the right tapered end for the conical seat but one set is an acorn design and the other is a normal looking nut. Is there a difference between the 2 besides looking nicer?
I have a 2000 acura tl.. I am looking to purchase aftermarket lug nuts but i have stock rims i have read that it isnt good to do that what can i do if i want to keep my stock rims but have diff color lug nuts or how do i find the right lugs for my specific rims?
Hi just recently purchased some Basset 57RN4 wheels from your website and was wondering what lug nuts bets fit the wheel . Thanks
These will require a Conical seat - 45 degree lug nut. Here is a link to the correct ones www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/lug-nuts/lug-nut-seat-style/conical-seat-45-degree/universal/yes/lug-nut-head-style/standard/open-end-design/yes?N=open-end-design%3Ayes&SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Ascending you will just need to choose the proper wheel stud thread size form the narrow your results option on the left side of the page.
Could anyone help me out with this questions? If I have a car with M14 x 1.5 Thread Size will it fit a wheel that came off a car with M12 x 1.25?
What kind of car do you have? 12x1.25 is nissan Subaru thread pitches. What kind of wheels do you have?
@@carlosking0167 mustang car infiniti wheels
@@Michael-jm5ix in that case you got to run adapters to use those wheels. I know some guys called lug nut king (909) 346 8011 they specialize in wheel accessories they can make them in the infinity bolt pattern for your mustang car.
@@carlosking0167 I think both cars are 5x114.3, the main question is will the M14 bolt fit in a wheel that was original made for an M12 stud? My goal is not to change the Studs. I'm hoping the oem wheels that were made for an infiniti q60 with M12 stud vehicle will have enough room the M14 studs, As i will use spacers Bore size is not an issue.
@@Michael-jm5ix the 14 bolt is thicker than the 12 mm stud, the diameter of the 12 will always be smaller than the diameter of a 14 mm, thats why I am saying their is no way unless you do a wheel stud conversion from 14 thread pitch to 12 thread pitch, as that is one solution too. The safests option is to do a wheel studs conversion a guy from ebay called lugnutkingiv hooked me up with a wheel studs conversion that worked perfectly.. they screw in from the hub.. tbh they are my go to guys since they know more than I do.
have multi hole konig. anyone know where to get lug nut hole plugs/caps for the holes not being used.
I still dont really get all the conical nuts fit all the different rims that already have conical?
Hi which one would you recommend for Infiniti G35 Rays 19 inch rims OEM wheels came of 2005 coupe. Some say acorn seat some says conical seat. ?
Just purchased 18" enkei EDR9 wheels and was wondering what lug nuts to use on my 2006 eclipse gt?
My muteki sr48 lug nuts seems to be too thick to fit in the lug nut hole of the rim.
Hi Jared Guzman,
Most likely the wall thickness of your socket is causing the issue. You could try a thin wall chrome socket or a spline drive type of lug nut as shown in the link: www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/lug-nuts/lug-nut-thread-size/12mm-x-1-50-rh/brand/mcgard
Where can you find a socket for the 5th spline nut type
We do not offer any 5 point spline drive lug keys at this time. We apologize we couldnt help! Thank you for watching.
can i use my stock ones from a subaru legacy gt 2005 on xxr rims
My front wheels are 19 x 11 and rear are 19 x 13. What size lugnuts do I need?
I bought a pair of Dorman 711-225 lug nut lock set (1/2 20).
On the rear, they fit fine but on the front tires they are too short and I can't tighten the wheel down all the way as the threading goes through the middle and hits the key preventing me from locking it down. Any recommendations on what to do?
Get the right lug nuts before one of your wheels falls off.
what lugnuts would u use for chevy replicas
Congratulations great job
Subtitle blocks the lug nuts size. BTW, I bought a new rims for 14 mustang and my stock doesn't fit. I think its 1/2 20. may I know what type of lug nuts I need? will skim one fit?
+Nick RAOL,
The wheel stud size is 1/2in. X 20 but your new wheels may take a specific lug nut. Give us a call and we can help you find the right ones. 1-330-630-0240.
+Summit Racing Thank you for your reply. I ordered Tuner lug nuts which has small head 1/2*20 and worked perfect.
Will spline drive tuner help prevent my tires from getting stolen?
yes, i bought a set of 6 spline lug nuts from ksp on amz and it did a good job.
can I use conical style nuts on wheels that have shank style holes
Never, shank is for the old school wheels.
What's that one called where you have to insert the key part to the front
Angelo Vigil ,
Can you give our tech department a call? 1-330-630-0240. We need some additional information form you. Thanks for watching!
tuner lug nut
It’s called ricer style
I want to buy new aftermarket lug nuts same as the original becausr mine are rusted. What should I be aware of when buying so the new ones don't get rusty. The good ones have some kind of coating that i should be searching for??
I would make sure they are triple nickel chrome plated in silver or block, or go with a stainless lug nut. McGard lug nuts offer a lifetime warranty against rust!
Is there a push bolts Peugeot 504 17 Inch rims
Please reply and benefit
Goddamit I bought some new rims and the fucking lug nuts wont tighten amymore on my new rims im hella pissed what should I do its like there isnt enough thread anymore and they do not tighten all the way on a 1988 chevy s 10 rwd 2door single cab 2.8 v6
Is it ok to paint the lug nuts?
Yes, you can paint them but the paint will most likely scratched up from the socket. If you do paint them, don't get paint on the seat area where they contact the wheel. Paint can get soft if the wheels get hot, leading to loose lug nuts. Also, if they are chrome lug nuts you will need to strip the chrome first.
I need lug nuts that fit craiger star wire rims
What is 5x100 mean
I have conflicting information. I thought the torque specification was 100 FtLbs as most light duty vehicles are for my 2015 Ford Edge Sort AWD 21" stock wheels. But discount tire showed me their computer system shows it at 165 Ftlbs. What should I do? Does that extra 65 Ftlbs make a huge diffrence? When I was a tech in the early days we would just run them on with the 1/2" air gun and call it good lol.
Yes, for the 2015 Ford Edge Ford does recommend 162 lt/lb in the factory manual. This would be when using factory Ford wheels and lug nuts. This sec should be located in the vehicles factory manual or by contacting your local Ford dealer.
So, really, the BEST lug nuts would be a combination of conical, shank, and flat using a spline drive. Nice.
Thank you
what about ssw wheels?
How do you measure lug nuts? Waste of time listening to commercial. There’s 3 different size for spline, how did you help?
got it,,,thanks.
tenzo r zt6 competition series 18 in 4 lugs
Has 8 hold but only 4 lug on the car
Holes
This dont help us 8 lug nut people
They use mag shank for the old school wheels, the new aftermarket wheels are almost all taper seat.