Having been to a ride and drive event near Chicago back in June of 2022, I think most of their observations are fair and accurate. The Ariya responded very well vs the competition on the test track we used though we were limited to a FWD Ariya on that track as opposed to the 389 HP AWD, e-4orce model. That should be a whole different driving experience though obviously it's more money as well. We did get to drive ProPilot 2.0 on highways with hands free capability and lane change and it was a bit of an odd feeling having never experienced that before, though I suspect a person would get used to it. It's a great feature that worked like a charm (It Better!) as did the ProPilot park feature. I agree there are way too many model choices and had this model debuted 3 years ago it would have had more of a leg up on the competition but the constant delays haven't helped. It is roomy and comfortable, I guess the market will decide about price point, lack of ePedal, charging specifications etc. I don't claim to be an expert on all available competitors but I would say it's a competent choice in the current market place though it certainly doesn't blow away the rest of the field.
This would have been great technology for about 2015. It's 2023 however and they want a $47,000 starting price? They must have some deals with fleets as consumers are not looking to spend $50k for this level of content.
Mike needs more bicycles and helmets. I want more Gabe ever since he said he wasn’t on board with Mazda’s corporate direction after abandoning their zoom-zoom for BMW lite.
When I tested the fwd, it was way down the list. And I would agree with most of what you said. But when I tested the awd on a long trip, it went to the top. And I actually bought one, another thing is that I started to like most of the other things also.
Agreed. I've been annoyed by gages hidden behind the steering wheel for decades. The only exception was a Toyota Echo with the dash centered cluster. Normal cars have me ducking to see the heart of the speedometer.
From the dedicated seat heater button, climate control knobs, to the hidden reverse camera, this episode just made me appreciate my VW Sportwagen a lot more 😀
Well I am certainly glad to see they did not put any high gloss black plastic in this vehicle. I drive a newer Mazda and it is everywhere and shows fingerprints, dust, and water spots. I hope this trend like the Nissan is using in this EV continues❤
🤦♂️The problem is dust, fingerprints and water spots NOT THE HIGH GLOSS. Getting rid of the high gloss is like throwing out the baby with the baby water. All manufacturers have to do is laminate it Ace those problems are solved.
I absolutely hate how EV reviewers never talk about the charging curve or overall charging time and only ever cover the peak. The Ariya holds 136kW up to 45% SOC - it takes 29 minutes to charge from 10% to 80% on the larger battery pack - that's on par with a Model Y which has a significantly higher peak charging rate.
That brake pedal thing sounds odd. When we had the Bolt it was great. Blended brakes that were normal and it brought the car to a stop, other than it didn't leave the brake lights on. It also had, in the top trim, the washer for the rear camera. But I just have the habit of rubbing my sleave over the camera of our Forester each time I'm back there and it hasn't been a problem. Just the trade offs of building a car and deciding what to include to hit the target MSRP.
I really wish these guys test thoroughly before opining. Most of these are opinions. True it has slow charging, but check bjrons channel to see how flat the curve is. Sure it’s expensive but the Kia dealer near my house wants me to pay 68K. This is infinitely cheaper. Yes, it’s not the most powerful but you haven’t driven the AWD model. Sure one pedal is missing, but that’s no KPI. If the braking was aggressive, I don’t understand why each reviewer has different opinions, some like it, some don’t. Just coz teslas or Kias work a certain way, it doesn’t make them the benchmark. Again, all excellent cars, but I think the objectivity has dissolved massively. You should preface an opinion with a disclaimer that it’s an opinion, not a metric.
So this is what SHOULD be called the new Forerunner replacement? It's what most people who have been buying the Forerunner for the last 10 years or so ACTUALLY wanted and just keep a low run of the current one around for the off road crowd.
I test drove an Ariya back in the summer during a Nissan event. Having driven there in a Leaf, I was really underwhelmed. I was really dismayed about the lack of one-pedal driving. This was a huge miss. The interior was quite nice however. Exterior and storage was meh.
Too bad they made it so sloped at the back. The Rogue has a much better shape. The Ariya does not look practical for that reason alone. Plus the price starts at 53 grand. Plus bullshit fees that brings it up to 56 grand. But that's the base model, and the dealers won't get that one. They'll play games how they can't get one. They always lie those people - every single time - and they all do it. So the one level up is 60 grand. Plus bullshit fees is 63 grand. 63 grand for an EV. It has a good range, but still, a trip from Montreal to Toronto, you will need to charge at least once to get back, so there's a problem. How about a Rogue instead. Let it be 41 grand after bullshit fees for a nice SV one. That's 22 grand less. If you spend 2 grand in gas per year, that's 11 years worth of gas. What's the point of this EV again? Bragging rights? Or is the the 5.1 seconds 0-60? I'm not participating in the race, so they win nothing.
Based on the rogue sport rather have the hybrid and are these guys this inept that done know Nissan and Mitsibushi share the same platform? And have PHEV's? wow..im not impressed with these mouthpieces blabbing on without platform technology sharing and partnerships
Since the "Plandemic", car prices have gone through the roof. Oh!, and what a "coincidence" that chips and other electronic gadgets suddenly became scarce, too! All in all, I'll wait until 2023/2024 roll around and see what happens.
CR - the ARIYA is less safe than a TESLA model Y, its LACKING a proper FRUNK & front Crumple zone because of the FWD version. TESLA only make RWD/AWD cars that all are 5 star crash rated and EXCEED passenger & pedestrian.
ConsumerFRAUD - the Nissan ARIA is GARBAGE. its too HEAVY , too SLOW, too short RANGE and its INEFFICIENT. TESLA model Y Long Range is better MADE and Performance.
Great to have Gabe back! Love to see him more on the show.
Gabe is not super interesting/engraving, but Quincy has been so damned annoying, laughing at everything he says and making really bizarre comments.
@@victreebel170 ... Picky, picky, picky...
I clean my backup camera regularly and it's fine honestly.
Alex has been a great addition to the panel.
What about the charging curve? That is way more important than what the charging peak is!
Having been to a ride and drive event near Chicago back in June of 2022, I think most of their observations are fair and accurate. The Ariya responded very well vs the competition on the test track we used though we were limited to a FWD Ariya on that track as opposed to the 389 HP AWD, e-4orce model. That should be a whole different driving experience though obviously it's more money as well. We did get to drive ProPilot 2.0 on highways with hands free capability and lane change and it was a bit of an odd feeling having never experienced that before, though I suspect a person would get used to it. It's a great feature that worked like a charm (It Better!) as did the ProPilot park feature. I agree there are way too many model choices and had this model debuted 3 years ago it would have had more of a leg up on the competition but the constant delays haven't helped. It is roomy and comfortable, I guess the market will decide about price point, lack of ePedal, charging specifications etc. I don't claim to be an expert on all available competitors but I would say it's a competent choice in the current market place though it certainly doesn't blow away the rest of the field.
This would have been great technology for about 2015. It's 2023 however and they want a $47,000 starting price? They must have some deals with fleets as consumers are not looking to spend $50k for this level of content.
Customers would the average price for a new vehicle which is a sedan is $48,000
Mike needs more bicycles and helmets. I want more Gabe ever since he said he wasn’t on board with Mazda’s corporate direction after abandoning their zoom-zoom for BMW lite.
My 2019 Leaf has one pedal driving so I’m confused as to why they regressed.
When I tested the fwd, it was way down the list. And I would agree with most of what you said. But when I tested the awd on a long trip, it went to the top. And I actually bought one, another thing is that I started to like most of the other things also.
Where did you find that chart comparison from nissan? its at 21:07?
@3:31 Alex that wasn't even the question haha
Agreed. I've been annoyed by gages hidden behind the steering wheel for decades. The only exception was a Toyota Echo with the dash centered cluster. Normal cars have me ducking to see the heart of the speedometer.
#Ariya 😎👌with #e4ORCE🏆🤘
My 2019 Audi Q5 has a jet camera lens cleaner.
Ariya 👍
From the dedicated seat heater button, climate control knobs, to the hidden reverse camera, this episode just made me appreciate my VW Sportwagen a lot more 😀
Well I am certainly glad to see they did not put any high gloss black plastic in this vehicle. I drive a newer Mazda and it is everywhere and shows fingerprints, dust, and water spots. I hope this trend like the Nissan is using in this EV continues❤
🤦♂️The problem is dust, fingerprints and water spots NOT THE HIGH GLOSS. Getting rid of the high gloss is like throwing out the baby with the baby water. All manufacturers have to do is laminate it Ace those problems are solved.
I absolutely hate how EV reviewers never talk about the charging curve or overall charging time and only ever cover the peak. The Ariya holds 136kW up to 45% SOC - it takes 29 minutes to charge from 10% to 80% on the larger battery pack - that's on par with a Model Y which has a significantly higher peak charging rate.
how did you guys even rent one? it's not available anywhere in the US.
Press fleet
That brake pedal thing sounds odd. When we had the Bolt it was great. Blended brakes that were normal and it brought the car to a stop, other than it didn't leave the brake lights on. It also had, in the top trim, the washer for the rear camera. But I just have the habit of rubbing my sleave over the camera of our Forester each time I'm back there and it hasn't been a problem. Just the trade offs of building a car and deciding what to include to hit the target MSRP.
11:12 isn't it technically an "air" pedal in most ICE cars? 😅
In Europe we can ac change ariya up to 22kw
I really wish these guys test thoroughly before opining. Most of these are opinions. True it has slow charging, but check bjrons channel to see how flat the curve is. Sure it’s expensive but the Kia dealer near my house wants me to pay 68K. This is infinitely cheaper. Yes, it’s not the most powerful but you haven’t driven the AWD model. Sure one pedal is missing, but that’s no KPI. If the braking was aggressive, I don’t understand why each reviewer has different opinions, some like it, some don’t. Just coz teslas or Kias work a certain way, it doesn’t make them the benchmark. Again, all excellent cars, but I think the objectivity has dissolved massively. You should preface an opinion with a disclaimer that it’s an opinion, not a metric.
So you can sleep on the road? They beat Tesla?
So this is what SHOULD be called the new Forerunner replacement? It's what most people who have been buying the Forerunner for the last 10 years or so ACTUALLY wanted and just keep a low run of the current one around for the off road crowd.
No full one pedal drive 😞
Wrong dude, you just have to learn how to drive with it in #Ariya 🙃
@27:00 VW ID.4 also has a nozzle to wash the rearview camera. It is pretty awesome. Greetings from Boston as well 👋🏼
iD4 has software that CANT be updated OTA.
I test drove an Ariya back in the summer during a Nissan event. Having driven there in a Leaf, I was really underwhelmed. I was really dismayed about the lack of one-pedal driving. This was a huge miss. The interior was quite nice however. Exterior and storage was meh.
Agree, it’s a no deal without a full one pedal drive
That big and it's still only seats 5 WTH.
Chevy Bolt is still the winner for me.
Like any other MID size SUV in the market !!! The BOLT is a great car until you have to” fast “charge , there use it is a great car .
Being underwhelmed by the Ariya shows how the EV market has matured. Yet another competent EV SUV.
Right Gabe?
This vehicle is huge for Nissan. I really want to see the Infiniti version..🤔
Nissan sells FAR BELOW Tesla and MEX-e .
Like the second gen Leaf, Nissan is quite a ways behind most other new similar type EVs.
Too bad they made it so sloped at the back. The Rogue has a much better shape. The Ariya does not look practical for that reason alone.
Plus the price starts at 53 grand. Plus bullshit fees that brings it up to 56 grand.
But that's the base model, and the dealers won't get that one. They'll play games how they can't get one. They always lie those people - every single time - and they all do it.
So the one level up is 60 grand. Plus bullshit fees is 63 grand.
63 grand for an EV. It has a good range, but still, a trip from Montreal to Toronto, you will need to charge at least once to get back, so there's a problem.
How about a Rogue instead. Let it be 41 grand after bullshit fees for a nice SV one. That's 22 grand less.
If you spend 2 grand in gas per year, that's 11 years worth of gas.
What's the point of this EV again? Bragging rights? Or is the the 5.1 seconds 0-60? I'm not participating in the race, so they win nothing.
Slow charging and over priced. 😩😩😩
Nope dude
Based on the rogue sport rather have the hybrid and are these guys this inept that done know Nissan and Mitsibushi share the same platform? And have PHEV's? wow..im not impressed with these mouthpieces blabbing on without platform technology sharing and partnerships
Since the "Plandemic", car prices have gone through the roof. Oh!, and what a "coincidence" that chips and other electronic gadgets suddenly became scarce, too! All in all, I'll wait until 2023/2024 roll around and see what happens.
CR - the ARIYA is less safe than a TESLA model Y, its LACKING a proper FRUNK & front Crumple zone because of the FWD version. TESLA only make RWD/AWD cars that all are 5 star crash rated and EXCEED passenger & pedestrian.
Good news is Ariya still has a 5 star euroncap rating and will definitely get 5 stars from IIHS
#BS 💩
Nice car but too expensive.
Nice on the high quality mikes, meh on the zoom call episode....Jesus Gabe, time to leave your house.
ConsumerFRAUD - the Nissan ARIA is GARBAGE.
its too HEAVY , too SLOW, too short RANGE and its INEFFICIENT.
TESLA model Y Long Range is better MADE and Performance.