As esty said. A decent Zen/TL roll shreds. Got a beaut for console. Arrowhead, ricochet, zen, TL, Range MW. Is a laser. And recoil is easy to control, too.
I mean not better than khovostov. But as far as legendaries, it probably shares the top spot with summoner. I personally like Rufus’ fury more but to each their own.
@@michaelferrarini1463 true Khovstov is better, but is also an exotic, plus this allows u to use Conditional as well. And Rufus’s is really not that good even w the crafted god roll , summoner is better for longer range but up close id be willing to say Riposte can win against even some smgs
It's literally sht on controller tf you talking about lol. It's only usable in smg range at which point the zoom destroys your tracking. Sharuya adept has 3-4m less range and is better.
Idk how I feel about it but a lightweight 720 auto is a lightweight 720 auto. The range, zoom, and flash definitely makes it feel balanced and not too overpowered
Got an ap rounds, enhanced zen moment and enhanced desperate measures, and stability master work roll. Some games, im a menace, others I'm getting cooked. Its balance lol
Would be super cool if that Gun is dropping active in Comp, so i can keep playing comp and hope to get a good roll.. but seems like i only have to play that weekly as only chance to get ONE random roll
“I just want a 1v1! I don’t want my teammates taking the kill on the last shot or me having one more bullet to shoot when a guy gets an angle” Literally happens every time I try trials or comp. I can win a 1v1 like 60-70% of the time. But can’t do anything about being shot by 3 people after winning 90% of a 1v1, or my teammate stealing my kill
16:35 Jake, thank you so much for saying this. I've been struggling with my competitiveness and I wouldn't say ego, but there's not really a better word for it. Hearing you say this really made me feel seen.
same, I feel like the people I play with don't understand where I'm coming from by just being competitive like this, feels like they're just annoyed by me being there lol.
I think it’s a pretty solid 6v6 weapon depending on your load out and map…I don’t think it’s a particularly great 3v3 weapon because you’re just going to have to close distance and you’re going to die a lot. I have no doubt people can get top tier rolls and slay with it, but it’s wonderful for PvE.
My first drop of this was full bore, ricochet, tap the trigger and kill clip with a reload mw being the only downside. The stock gives me 100 recoil direction and tap gives me 100 stability. I absolutely love it lol if i can get the exact same roll with a range mw i will be happy but now im just chasing a pve roll
Been having some bad luck in drops. But I dropped me a To the pain, target lock last week. Enhanced it to get more mileage out of it. Going to give that a whirl next iron banner.
Since I’ve returned to destiny all of my weapons were the meta 4 years ago so I was looking desperately for something I was good with and one day she came to me target lock tap the trigger it’s the smoothest and most oppressive weapon I could’ve ever dreamed of
Please don’t apologize for anything, lol. Everyone gets mad playing pvp in any game from time to time. You have played more hours of trials than anyone, lol. You are still a 🐐 in trials!!
Summoner does not compare with any legendary auto. It's literally an exotic with how good it is, id argue it's better than Khov if you get a roll with 75 range. (hammer,Rich,Range range essentially for 75 range ).
Love the explanation from the other streamer too. I've watched you long enough to know that's not your character. Watch him now too. As an average crucible player watch a variety of good streamers to learn. There are several playstyles in the game and learning things from all to build a style that is efficient and works for you I find value in
@@stickupkydd9454 and range finder still slaps on SMG’s. Funnelweb Multimach out of bounds all can hang and autumn with with range finder is the farthest reaching 540! It fell off but is where it’s supppsed to be now
So, I've been watching your stuff for yrs, and recently started following you on Twitch. I looked at some stuff he posted, and you were fine he is looking for views, stop feeding it. He did the same to frost and ZK. Much love, you make crucible look easy. Keep it up.
@TheSmurf1973 He likes him, and he did that guy's video. is very weird I was watching him couple of days before he was calling passive play style cat made call out people not caping also literally said the same stuff jake did about him..
Have you guys managed to try this Auto yet? Is there a better roll I can get? :)
You know how good zen moment is, pair it with target lock and the fast fire rate to make a killing machine!
In M&K is so so easy to use
As esty said. A decent Zen/TL roll shreds. Got a beaut for console. Arrowhead, ricochet, zen, TL, Range MW. Is a laser. And recoil is easy to control, too.
The gun works works like a High range Smg that also gives +20 mobility
Zen moment kill clip is the roll. The recoil pattern can be a bit much and visual weapon shake as well
This thing absolutely melts on pvp with controller, and the “buff” with the muzzle flash decrease helps it a lot. Probably the best AR for pvp rn
I mean not better than khovostov. But as far as legendaries, it probably shares the top spot with summoner. I personally like Rufus’ fury more but to each their own.
@@michaelferrarini1463 true Khovstov is better, but is also an exotic, plus this allows u to use Conditional as well. And Rufus’s is really not that good even w the crafted god roll , summoner is better for longer range but up close id be willing to say Riposte can win against even some smgs
The Summoner is the best legendary Auto Rifle.
definitely not the best AR
It's literally sht on controller tf you talking about lol.
It's only usable in smg range at which point the zoom destroys your tracking. Sharuya adept has 3-4m less range and is better.
Idk how I feel about it but a lightweight 720 auto is a lightweight 720 auto. The range, zoom, and flash definitely makes it feel balanced and not too overpowered
I got mine with zen moment dynamic sway reduction which kinda sucks due to no damage perk but the range and stability is insane
Love mine. It dropped with Full bore, ricochet rounds, DSR, and zen moment. Stability masterwork. It shines in 6v6 for the perks you got.
i have that exact roll. thing kinda shreds
Got an ap rounds, enhanced zen moment and enhanced desperate measures, and stability master work roll.
Some games, im a menace, others I'm getting cooked. Its balance lol
The reason this thing is so good is because of KW and Lightweight frame. Better strafe on Titan and Warlock.
I have the bugged golden tricorn version, on hunter I can get the ttk to .5 and .92 with only the first level of GT
Probably my favorite AR rn. Feels super nice in the hands
I got lucky enough to get a killing wind/golden tricorn. It cooks. I love this weapon.
9:15 holy fuck my sides 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
killing wind , desperate measures
you need zen or tap the trigger to tame it
It absolutely shreds everything, you'll love the hate you'll ge😊t for abusing this weapon.
I'm early af let's go
Your movement is bad
Show us yours ?
Troll??? 🧌. lol
I think Killing wind and Kill clip is definitely better in 6’s. Zen moment/Target lock or, Zen moment/ DSR are good dueling perks.
I think killing wind and kill clip last the same, is just you need to reload to get kill clip and killing wind activates right after you get a kill
Would be super cool if that Gun is dropping active in Comp, so i can keep playing comp and hope to get a good roll.. but seems like i only have to play that weekly as only chance to get ONE random roll
13:04 dudes had no chance lol 2 witherhoard shots, swarm, smoke, and clone all in that little hallway 😂
Zen Moment on this Weapon is crazy btw, if u have one u should try it. it becomes a laser
Yeah, you roll is ass sadly. It is as you said, you're basically using a perkless weapon until you get a kill. Zen Moment/Target Lock goes hard.
I was grinding hard, but only took me 8 drops to get my destabilizing repulser brace for pve. Got lucky with the barrel and mag too.
Yea id like to get a pve and pvp roll but comp is just terrible without survival now
You want tap the trigger on this
“I just want a 1v1! I don’t want my teammates taking the kill on the last shot or me having one more bullet to shoot when a guy gets an angle”
Literally happens every time I try trials or comp. I can win a 1v1 like 60-70% of the time. But can’t do anything about being shot by 3 people after winning 90% of a 1v1, or my teammate stealing my kill
I put down my shayuras for this gun
I swear to god, that threaded specter activation really has invincibility frames and that makes every freakin hunter gods in PVP
I got golden tricorn and dynamic sway enhanced it's a good role but bungie fucked up an took golden tricorn away from perk pool
so jealous, 9 out of my 13 that ive gotten have had desperate measures on it -_- so stupid you can only get 3 a week
probably a better role for 6's, I have a zen + dynamic sway and is a good overall battler
Get one with target lock and a good stability and range and then enhance it so that it can do amazing things in your skill hands.
Anyone else’s reposte magically had their perk changed to desperate measures??
Doesn't finish. What perks would you choose, Jake?
You can get target lock on it as well which is much better in my opinion
With killing wind and kill clip it becomes a basic Khvostov…
16:35 Jake, thank you so much for saying this. I've been struggling with my competitiveness and I wouldn't say ego, but there's not really a better word for it. Hearing you say this really made me feel seen.
same, I feel like the people I play with don't understand where I'm coming from by just being competitive like this, feels like they're just annoyed by me being there lol.
I have this with To the Pain and Kill Clip and that's felt the best so far.
Why do you hate comp when you do Trails all the time?
Zen moment and target lock. Nuf said lol
Zen moment and target lock is my fav gun atm
Zen moment is a better 3rd column perk.
that taitan was about to give you the hands
I think it’s a pretty solid 6v6 weapon depending on your load out and map…I don’t think it’s a particularly great 3v3 weapon because you’re just going to have to close distance and you’re going to die a lot. I have no doubt people can get top tier rolls and slay with it, but it’s wonderful for PvE.
I actually thought that was arc logic in the thumbnail...sweet gun that thing 😇
It's the same model that's been cleaned up and given a fresh lick of paint.
My first drop of this was full bore, ricochet, tap the trigger and kill clip with a reload mw being the only downside. The stock gives me 100 recoil direction and tap gives me 100 stability. I absolutely love it lol if i can get the exact same roll with a range mw i will be happy but now im just chasing a pve roll
Been having some bad luck in drops. But I dropped me a To the pain, target lock last week. Enhanced it to get more mileage out of it. Going to give that a whirl next iron banner.
I got Dynamic Sway/Zen Moment and it's OP. I also got Dynamic Sway/Repulsor Brace, which felt really strong with Astrocyte and Blink.
Got one with Dynamic sway and tap the trigger. Has been my go to this season. Already have 800+ kills
Encore is the move!
gun shoots marshmallows
Since I’ve returned to destiny all of my weapons were the meta 4 years ago so I was looking desperately for something I was good with and one day she came to me target lock tap the trigger it’s the smoothest and most oppressive weapon I could’ve ever dreamed of
Gave this a try and didn't really like it... I'd rather just run summoner if I'm putting an AR in special slot
Zen moment necessary
Please don’t apologize for anything, lol. Everyone gets mad playing pvp in any game from time to time. You have played more hours of trials than anyone, lol. You are still a 🐐 in trials!!
I try to never make fun of people's pronunciation, but you're killing me smalls.
Is crazy if i tell you that is decent when aim assist is in range in controller but on M&K is sooooo much better
I would disagree
You need Zen moment
I have this same roll except for hammer forged and high impact rounds and I can’t stop using it in pvp
I have one with zen target lock, super consistent and target lock is good because it is a 720 and procs easily
And I feel like the riposte is definitely a sniper secondary or forerunner like you said. Just an SMG imo
I love how this video was on during my first day of school 😊
KC and KW have the same uptime but KW activates after kill and KC after reloading after a kill
Killing wind starts as soon as you get a kill, while kill clip starts after the reload. That's why kill clip lasts longer.
Kill clip doesn’t last longer killing wind just automatically activates when you get a kill
As an auto rifle used, I really don't care for the gun. It has too much zoom for my liking and the overall feel is just worse than my summoner imo
Summoner does not compare with any legendary auto.
It's literally an exotic with how good it is, id argue it's better than Khov if you get a roll with 75 range. (hammer,Rich,Range range essentially for 75 range ).
full bore/ricochet/ttt/dsr/fitted stock looks interesting
Love the explanation from the other streamer too. I've watched you long enough to know that's not your character. Watch him now too. As an average crucible player watch a variety of good streamers to learn. There are several playstyles in the game and learning things from all to build a style that is efficient and works for you I find value in
Love how Jake hates Comp but plays trials like Trials isnt just as sweaty lol
Comp is alot worst
the answer to ur title is bc ur on roller
I like this gun better than Summoner
What controller do you use?
They fixed muzzle flash
i love target lock on riposte
2nd🎉
First view 🎉🎉
Killing Wind / Desperate Measures or Encore
Kill Clip would be my 3rd choice
That and necro are the only 720 rpm with 17 zoom. Gives it some range
Zoom isn’t tied to range anymore that’s why rangefinder fell off
@@stickupkydd9454 still helps with bloom
@@stickupkydd9454 and range finder still slaps on SMG’s. Funnelweb Multimach out of bounds all can hang and autumn with with range finder is the farthest reaching 540! It fell off but is where it’s supppsed to be now
I just never liked the way it felt.
Shoots pebbles for me. No hit reg
I got to play against you on the extra trials morning Tuesday, it was a lot of fun thank you
You should buy Bungie
So, I've been watching your stuff for yrs, and recently started following you on Twitch. I looked at some stuff he posted, and you were fine he is looking for views, stop feeding it. He did the same to frost and ZK. Much love, you make crucible look easy. Keep it up.
@TheSmurf1973 He likes him, and he did that guy's video. is very weird I was watching him couple of days before he was calling passive play style cat made call out people not caping also literally said the same stuff jake did about him..
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