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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- This clip from The Art of Killing (1978) shows Japanese women engaged in the practice of the naginata, a traditional weapon of the women married to samurai. Naginata were often used by women because the naginata offered greater reach for a smaller person, and helped even the odds when used by a woman against a sword-wielding man.
just incase anyone is curious, the shouting is called "Kiai" which roughly translates to fighting spirit. It's a fundamental part of very many japanese martial arts, if not all. The Kiai was used as a means of intimidation on the battlefield by the Samurai warrioirs, and also as a way of exerting your "fighting spirit" . And the Kiai still remains in the majority of Japanese martial arts due to the fact that almost all Japanese martial arts descend from the different combat styles that the Samurai warriors used in combat
Its also extremely fun to scream as loud as you can right into another persons face during tsuba-zeriai
It always scares the shit out of me when a sensai does it out of nowhere
JoJo fans and For Honor fans would ruin this
It's not just that kiddo. You exert more breath thus more strength is applied. Holding your breath lessens effort.
The main purpose is to strengthen the core when you strike intimidation is just a side effect
This is my favorite weapon, despite my virility. It's like a cross between a lance and a sword that appeals to me greatly. I do heavy damage to my friends during training (using wooden models of course) and no one can get close enough to impact me.
Try the polaxe it’s a similar combat style but with a bit more diversity in attack options
This was only a weapon used by women in times well after the heyday of the samurai. Originally it was one of the main weapons of the bushi (professional combatant) and samurai (social class) in the most brutal times of Japanese history along with the spear (yari) and the bow and arrow.
Fun fact, when naginata fell out of fashion during the edo period, instead of disposing of them many samurai just cut down the pole and weild them as side swords. And because naginata blades have a specific shape, it also inspired smiths to just make a new style of sword to look like a naginata lol
I have the sudden desire to become a Japanese woman...
Instantly becomes a Jpanese woman...
Japanese woman: Nani!!?
Japanese Man: Bukkake!
Eh, kind of shows how dated the documentary is when it says they're training "for spiritual beauty rather than physical strength." Pretty darn sure they're training for both, and a better translation for the "spiritual beauty" bit would probably be something like "inner peace." The naginata as a traditionally feminine weapon stemmed from a period where rival clan leaders were constantly trying to assassinate each other; the heirs of said leaders were also valid targets, since they were morally and legally obligated to avenge their dead leader if the enemy left them alive. So the women of that class needed to be able to defend their families against larger, heavily-armed men, since they were the last line of defense (this is especially true of the wife of the clan leader). This particular weapon was very well suited for that sort of fight.
So with that whole "not training for physical strength" bit...they were definitely training for physical strength, same as anyone would when practicing any martial art. Even a women's naginata can be pretty damn heavy, so it's user would need a fair amount of strength, endurance, and discipline to use it effectively. Only major difference I've noticed in male versus female practitioners is that one focuses much more heavily on upper body strength while the other takes full advantage of speed, agility, naturally better balance (due to naturally lower center of gravity), and providing a smaller target. Sort of a Tank-Type Lightning Bruiser versus a Fragile Speedster.
Japan: We need more protection. Let's train our wives and fiances in combat! Also let's have them trained in ninjutsu and become kunoichi and become one of the most deadly and efficient infiltrators and assassins of higher households and important people.
America: Bitch where's my sandwhich!
Sweden: HENGE DINGEY BJORGEN SMJORDEN FLINGUR! Translation: Let's fight all 3 of our neighbors and cross a risky frozen river! Also catholic church give me your gold and silver i'm the king!
also technically women where alowed to fight until confucianist ideals and budhism said that women shouldn't
@@velazquezarmouries That's not true at all. My Grandmother was in her late teens during the war, and she and her friends participated in martial training should the mainland ever be attacked by Soviets and Americans. Also, randomly, my grandparents feared and respected the Soviets more than the Americans bc of Russian resolve against the Nazis and bc they had fought each other 40 years prior
@@Kitajima2 i am refering to before the edo period i doubt that youy grandma was alive in the 1100s
Very nice they are great and what a nice activity for these ladies. I bet it is a great builder of community and friendship among those women young and old. contrasted to other things women and men can be doing with their time its great to see this kind of collective commitment to each other, martial arts, fitness and health.
who nobushi here
yep same can't wait to get into for honor and play nobushi gonna main her
2 subs She will be my main
lol here because of for honor....
2 subs sonata ni shi o!
Zallus04 same bro.
Imagine you are a wive of a samurai lord, your clan destroy by the opposing force, the males are out there fighting, you hiding inside with your son, the last heir, but the enemies are breaching the wall, a samurai open the door, clad full armor, with a katana in hand, ... but on your hand, a naginata
This is literally Nobushi training school
Michael Weston Good god no
Are you talking about for honor 😑
But with more than thrusts and quicker heavies
I hope there are still people in Japan who do this training. Fantastic.
eventhough i'm a man,this has to be one of my top favorite weapons in the world :)
Well originally it was the sohei monks who wielded naginata. The naginata was a common battlefield weapon until the rise in prominence of the yari spear. It was only then that it became characterised as the weapon of choice for women, around the edo period.
Even before the sohei, the japanese warriors used it. There is plenty of evidence for vast using of naginata in all major battles of japan in 10th-14th century
Absolutely correct, there are even illustrations after that depicting this weapon used by Samurai in mid and late 15th century
my favourite weapons are a keyboard, a snarky attitude, and anonymity
There seems to be some dispute among when and whom used this weapon, but to be on the safe side a man could always use the Su Yari, an effective equivalent with a different shaped blade.
So this is what Nobushis do when they're not making me rage
Jif Kepple RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
You instantly become a Rep 60 Nobushi after graduation
Is this just me or they sound like a group of cub cats?
+Nihil Islands These old BBC documentaries are notorious for altering and adding sounds for effect.
+Nihil Islands Sounds get less robust during the recording and digitization process. But yeah, they sound like a kitchen full of hungry cats. I can't laugh at them though, because then my own squeaky kitty voice would be revealed. Small women just sound like this. What's unusual is that they're all shouting at once; this is probably the first time you've heard 150 women shout "hai" in a 10 second period.
+Nihil Islands I think a previous video I just watched said that the shouts are to signify that they've scored a hit, or that they're acknowledging a hit from their opponent. I should imagine that shouting like that is easier than trying to speak fluently, especially when extremely tired.
No, everything you just said is wrong. The shouting is called "Kiai" which roughly translates to fighting spirit. It's a fundamental part of very many japanese martial arts, if not all. The Kiai was used as a means of intimidation on the battlefield by the Samurai warrioirs, and also as a way of exerting your "fighting spirit" . And the Kiai still remains in the majority of Japanese martial arts due to the fact that almost all Japanese martial arts descend from the different combat styles that the Samurai warriors used in combat
The kiai's in this film were altered post-production for extra effect is the point that I was trying to make.
I came from for honor to get some feedback. And I wasn't expecting that. Wow
this is sooo beautiful !
a huge crowd of kiais like that is remarkably like a flock of seagulls
I usually doubt naginata's dominance against the sword, specially a parrying one. Even with the reach advantage. But how they swing both edges to attack looks formidable.
Should probably have a little bit more respect for the polearms, they're going to have a massive advantage in not only reach but also speed and Leverage and that's before you get into things like stopping power and armor penetration capability. If you want more evidence remember for medieval Samurai who are actually hitting the battlefield, the sword was a backup weapon for either spear or bow oh, the sword only became the primary weapon of the Samurai after the sengoku jidai in a time of relative peace when the pragmatism of day-to-day life made the spear and naginata fall into the background.
Ha!
"The polishing of the famed hall is but another way to purify and strengthen the mind [back] of the trainee."
1:10 "Fight club! Fight club!"
Rule nr. 1: You dont talk about fight club.
I think they are saying fight o or fight on
They say "Fight", but with Japanese pronunciation which comes out as "Fighto".
Thank you I can't unhear it hEl p m E
I enjoyed the documentary.
So much culture in this country dang
Japan is gorgeous man I hope to see it one day
It´s a very nice art. I like this sport.
*martial art.
I enjoyed this very much.
Amazing to watch.
Not necessarily just for women. Check out Tajima "The Arrow Cutter".
who came here after watch For Honor gameplay ?
lol for honor
Beautiful to watch...
i love strong woman
Nobushi for days
lol
Cool
Betty mother's weapon : Naginata
So fricking cool
WTF did i just watch. How did i get here from watching people doing bigfoot pranks?
omfg they are soo loud i mean seriously do thry need to do a battlecry every time they attack wow!!!
Shut the fuck up poland ball
Scott Bustos dude my ball is not suppose to even be a poland ball its suppose to be a indonesian ball but!!! because poland is retarded they decided to turn it it around soo it could look like a indonesian ball and a monaco ball seriously all they need to do is just turn it around!!!
Its called Kiai and its required in most or all Japenese martial arts.
We do this too in karate. It helps you strengthen your inner core muscle, while keep you concentrate
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samurai family kids would get beat up with this instead of slippers. though their slippers are a bit hefty as well.
2:37 WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT?!
It looks like me in shadowfight 3
This martial arts was made famous by a man, but it is taken mostly by woman. VingTsun (Wing Chun) is the same way.
I don't think sexism was in this Clio at all given it's time period I'm sure that he was just saying what he was told most likely by some of the woman in the clip on what they practice naginatajutsu. Furthermore there is nothing wrong with anybody not being able to explain completely from one language to another it's not our fault that Japanese has some words that can't be translated in English I have the some problem in reverse sometimes it doesn't make anybody dumb or ignorant to the language it's just that Japanese and English for examples are 2 completely different languages it's logical and natural for some things that can't be translated as simple as "hello"
Eh, it's definitely got some mild casual sexism in there. But it's due to time period, mostly; it just shows how old the documentary is. And it is slightly inaccurate: naginata-jutsu still requires as much physical strength and endurance as any other weapon. It was used by women largely as a means of defending against warriors from enemy clans trying to assassinate their kids (who would be morally and legally obligated to avenge their father if he died in battle, so a smart lord trying to take over new territory had to make sure to kill literally everyone related to the leader of that clan). That requires a fair bit of physical strength and constant practice, otherwise it becomes useless as a self-defense weapon (back then, at least; not much of a self-defense weapon now).
帥！台灣現在有這個嗎？
The seventies' sexism unfortunately shines through all too well in this clip, with ridiculous statements such as "The desire of every woman is to be beautiful". Even when women traing a martial art, they can't do it because they want to become stronger or like fightning, but it has to be because of aesthetics?! Sigh...
Thankfully, the footage shows serious naginata training. Really interesting to watch.
majnjord You misunderstand the Japanese concept of "beauty". A better word for it is "perfection". Both men and woman in Japan seek a "perfection" in their martial arts training. To them, perfection IS beauty. Check out those that practice Kyudo. The seek "shin-zen-bi" (aka "truth, goodness, beauty"). In other words, "perfection".
Your ethnocentrism tainted your understanding of this clip and led you to attack it when it was actually correct.
BloodofPatriots You can speak for all japanese people (of the '70s in this case) in how they define "beauty", and what they all strive for in martial arts training? I'm very impressed, you must be a great anthropologist/ethnographer!
Ooooor maybe it's just a bunch of essentialist and generalizing bullcrap?
ANKF Kyûdô's shin-zen-bi is a thing, sure, but I don't see on what grounds you relate it to the naginata budô and bujutsu displayed in the vid.
I'm not attacking the whole clip, I'm attacking the silly sexist statements. And for you to say the clip is "actually correct" is just as silly in suggesting that such a dynamic and complex phenomenon as martial arts, with such a plethora of different people practicing it for so many reasons and in so many ways, could be described 'correctly' with the statement "The desire of every woman is to be beautiful". It's a dum statement unfair to every woman practicing naginatajutsu or other martial arts purely for competitive reasons, for physical excercise, for school merits, for fun, as a hobby or whatever reasons there may be.
majnjord The only thing "dumb" here is you. If you knew anything about Japanese culture, which you do not, they have concepts that are difficult to explain in other languages. When dealing with a person of low language ability such as yourself, the confusion only worsens. There is nothing sexist in the video at all. You are seeing sexism because that's what you and your limited intellect wish to see.
+majnjord There's a saying in Japan: Embroidery, Cooking, and wielding Naginata make a woman perfect. This is their culture. Is it sexist? Perhaps for you it is, and that's the point! You can't equate everything to Western standards. It's not how the world works, and it certainly doesn't revolve around you and your culture alone.
Stfu
What documentary was this from?
The Art of Killing (1978). It says so in the description
薙刀美しく、厳しく、格好いい女の子達
Okay 2:19 did sound like a basket of kittens.
women today think only fashion and make-up
in the olden days every samurai wife had to learn how to use naginata and not for spiritual beauty because if their castle or house are attack by another clan they usually would be rape or kill or enslave and the children will be killed...so no spiritual beauty at all, they need to learn it to survive and protect their honor and their family lol
im japanese but 1:22 ive ever never seen women practicing naginata such a style. many junior high schools and high schools have kendo clubs and most of the police stations have kendo teams in my country. but there are few naginata players.
roygbiv330 it always makes me sad to hear that some japanese are unaware of the immence of their own martial arts culture. I really recommend you to search into the depth of the naginata. the All Japan Naginata Federation is a good start :-)
0:14 YEEEAAAAAIH WOOOOOOOIH XDXDXD
LMAO 😂😂
This always make me laugh 😂😂😂
Beautiful
Meanwhile, in nobushi land..
Parese musica de las que le ponian a pedrito fernandes
薙刀も面白そうやけどなぁ、槍も面白そうやねんなぁ、どっちしよ。
ham ko bhi marshal art shikhnA he
This is a WOMANS WEAPON!? damn brown that shits scary no matter who is carrying it.
Naginata is only for woman ?
Thảo Hồng Nhi yes in fact it was designed for women.
Not at all but it became culturally associated with women over time, during the Edo era (1603-1868) especially. Early on, the naginata was a weapon widely used by the samurai, it was slowly supplemented by the spear in the 14th century. The early naginata were very "manly" weapons, longer with massive heads inspired partly by the chinese weapons, later naginata of the peaceful times were lighter with slender blades and fashionable for noblewomen.
Nowadays, it's the typical fighting weapon of the Japanese women, but many men practice it in Japan and elsewhere. You'll find many men wielding naginata in traditions like Katori Shinto-ryu and Toda-ha Buko-ryu, less so in Jikishinkage-ryu Naginata Do and Tendo-ryu.
I’d still use it
"HUGGGIA, HUGGHO!"
Anyone else rep 70 nobushi?
Rep 11
No offense but she sounded like tie fighter from star wars
lot of misinformation here, "being peculiar to the Japanese woman", No, that's a modern thing due to a policy created in the 1940's during 2nd World War.
"some 4 centuries ago it became the principle weapon of the woman of a samurai family" - no it was not. that's a 20th century myth. The naginata was a primary battle weapon used by men, and it was much longer and heavier than the thin light things typically used today except in the oldest traditions that still practice battle technique.
no it was not a myth, they were used by women in their house when the enemy attack their home or castle but as a last resort, they were rarely ever used in battle field by women, and samurai men only used it in the early ages. After it became unpopular they were given to the women to protect their house. Its is clearly recorded in many annals and historic writings.
anyone in malaysia know niginata ? , tqvm
You should check in "International Naginata" in facebook
nobushi :D
Greece accepted bisexual relations into their society, Japan accepted women into their traditions and even developed their strengths in infiltration and make up for lower strength purely biologically. Now we just need to combine these into a community without relating to war and martial a-..... On second thought a more developed and equal society bridged and based from and maintained and taught from martial arts would be the most badass step we could have today. let's all join a martial arts club!
Imagine more civilized and mature people joining in self defense and self improvement activity, it's a win win deal
Actually, in Classical Greece, bisexuality (especially between near equals as opposed to something done with a slave) was looked at as an upper class affectation, and was made fun of in several prize winning comedies, such as Aristophanes' The Clouds.
1:09 moin, moin, moin, moin, moin...
Sy W "Fight club" "Fight club"
It would be a real nasty situation having a well-trained woman with essentially a scimitar on a quarterstaff trying to make up for millennia of male domination in 5 minutes on my scraggly butt.
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Female musa hype????
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