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    Director: Uli Edel
    Writers: Peter Pruce, Craig Warner
    Stars: Jeremy Sisto, Richard Harris, Christopher Walken
    USA, 2002
    Twenty year-old Julius Caesar flees Rome for his life during the reign of Sulla but through skill and ambition rises four decades later to become Rome's supreme dictator.
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    Senate of Rome - Christopher Walken, Richard Harris in Julius Caesar by Film&Clips

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  • @alvaro4867
    @alvaro4867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Sulla was actually very pro-senate, he gave huge powers to the senate and took many powers from the tribunes. Caesar on the other hand was a man of the people, probably the greatest populist in ancient history.

    • @elperrodelautumo7511
      @elperrodelautumo7511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Caesar succeeded Sulla in the dictatorship role of Ancient Rome.

    • @alvaro4867
      @alvaro4867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@elperrodelautumo7511 Caesar became dictator several decades after sullas death

    • @ilect1690
      @ilect1690 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@alvaro4867 ironically enough, sulla actually pardoned caeser after he was forced to flee. Caeser was Gaius Marius's nephew in law who was the main rival of sulla

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ilect1690 Sulla ordered Caesar to divorce from his wife Cornelia, daughter of Marius' principal supporter, Cinna, that he refused to do. Caesar fled in Sabina, but was captured. Sulla was then convinced by some of his friends and supporters, several influential women, and even the Vestal Virgins to pardon Caesar, even if he reportedly commented that they would have regretted it dearly because "I see many Marius in this man".

    • @justinogle150
      @justinogle150 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      sulla only took away from the tribunes to stop their vetoes

  • @OdintheGermanShepherd
    @OdintheGermanShepherd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +322

    We need an hbo “Rome” quality Sulla vs Marius show or movie.

    • @ebenezerpaul9413
      @ebenezerpaul9413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yessss

    • @ElSa-fu8bi
      @ElSa-fu8bi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I swear once in my wildest dreams, someone was going to make "The First Man In Rome" into a series!!!

    • @ashtavakra3710
      @ashtavakra3710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ElSa-fu8bi it will be game of thrones all over again

    • @rogeriopenna9014
      @rogeriopenna9014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I said that myself plenty of times.

    • @rogeriopenna9014
      @rogeriopenna9014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ElSa-fu8bi I also said that myself plenty of times.

  • @fodicky4
    @fodicky4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Richard Harris was a beast in the arts... "...I may withdraw that, then again I may not; I will let you know after dinner, but for your sake, you better hope the food is good!"
    That was brilliant delivery of some terrifying lines

    • @EricWilke1141987
      @EricWilke1141987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Apparently the food wasn't good.

    • @fodicky4
      @fodicky4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EricWilke1141987 Apparently

    • @rickster578
      @rickster578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fodicky4 Or maybe, he was going to kill him either way.

    • @fodicky4
      @fodicky4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rickster578 That is also probable. Still imagine someone saying this to you and meaning it... you might as well go find a high peak coz the stress alone is too much

  • @paolobignardi2131
    @paolobignardi2131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +538

    Cato was a kid when Sulla took power, and actually Sulla was a very "senate friendly" guy. All his reforms were made only in order to restore the privileges for the senatorial aristocracy which had been weakened before by Marius (uncle of Caesar) and Cinna (father in law of Caesar)

    • @mikemanners1069
      @mikemanners1069 6 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Yeah. Hollywood absolutely makes havoc of Ancient Roman History....the average American is too ignorant and uneducated in the Classics to get the disparity.

    • @terminator324343
      @terminator324343 6 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Ironically, Richard Harris here is more like Marius, not Sulla. The entire speech has Marian characteristics.

    • @Thelionpaladin
      @Thelionpaladin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      paolo bignardi Cato was a kid and Sulla was definitely trying to restore “Optimate order.” However, he definitely does so in a very populare way and did whack an awful lot of the aristocracy, though he did so with the support of other members of the senate.
      This film does make Sulla look basically just like Marius or Caesar, but it’s cause it’s v hard to portray that individual complexity that Classical figures often had.
      After all, most roman dramas often portray the populares and Optimate divide as if they are political parties, when it was in fact largely individuals swinging between both groups of opinion for various reasons, ideologically and material. Like Cicero is often portrayed as this massive democratic republican when he swung all time time from Optimate to populares and back again.
      After all, he almost was a fourth member of Caesar’s first triumphate.

    • @DustinTheGreat1123
      @DustinTheGreat1123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You’re right of course. But Harris is amazing as this type of Sulla. And Walken as Cato is my heart’s delight.

    • @bcm8984
      @bcm8984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He was probably almost opposite of this scene. Except for the arrogance

  • @1987AnimeBoy
    @1987AnimeBoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I'd say Sulla is a combination of Richard Harris' iconic roles: He possesses the soft but authoritative voice of Albus Dumbledore, the military prowess of Marcus Aurelius, and the ruthlessness of Oliver Cromwell.

    • @rodrikofharlaw6848
      @rodrikofharlaw6848 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aurelius really wasnt that great of a military leader compared to cromwell.

    • @ghostinthemachine8243
      @ghostinthemachine8243 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Richard Harris nailed this character. He projected a proud, capable, and ruthless Sulla, which seems in line with what we know about him from history.

  • @nickmarinakis2100
    @nickmarinakis2100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    "I have altered the roman law, pray I don't alter it any further"

    • @tamasfekete4124
      @tamasfekete4124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      haha nice reference :)

    • @grndiesel
      @grndiesel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup. First thing that popped into my head too.

    • @chadsknnr
      @chadsknnr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And yes, Caesar was a Sith Lord. His moniker was Orange Julius . . . .

    • @marcoslaureano5562
      @marcoslaureano5562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He would hate to have to leave a garrison there....

  • @SkepticalChris
    @SkepticalChris 6 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    Christopher Walken as a roman senator...........so much awesome!

    • @FilmandClips
      @FilmandClips  6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Quite surprising huh? :D

    • @gabrielaubry1334
      @gabrielaubry1334 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Not just any senator, but Cato!

    • @taroman7100
      @taroman7100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ha he's holding onto a noble voice

    • @Jon.A.Scholt
      @Jon.A.Scholt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's because he still has that watch shoved in his ass...

    • @yngvebalmsteen9174
      @yngvebalmsteen9174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's one of those American actors like John Malkovich that sound out of place with British actors. Malkovich especially.

  • @NightWanderer31415
    @NightWanderer31415 5 ปีที่แล้ว +748

    So Marcus Aurelius used a time machine...

    • @MiguelPerez-zx2wg
      @MiguelPerez-zx2wg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It not Marcus Aurelius is Sulla the frist Roman dictator for life.

    • @MrMansionIV
      @MrMansionIV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@MiguelPerez-zx2wg I think the same actor played Marcus Aurelius in Ridley Scotts Gladiator.

    • @MiguelPerez-zx2wg
      @MiguelPerez-zx2wg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@MrMansionIV oh.

    • @BaronVonYolo
      @BaronVonYolo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrMansionIV Really dude?

    • @NightWanderer31415
      @NightWanderer31415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@MiguelPerez-zx2wg it is actually Richard Harris, great actor. Also played M.A. in Gladiator.

  • @TransoceanicOutreach
    @TransoceanicOutreach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This is basically Richard Harris playing Cromwell again, storming Parliament.

  • @Byzantine41
    @Byzantine41 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Two powerful historical characters, played by two heavyweight actors. Wish there were more scenes with these two actors.

    • @jonfranks6902
      @jonfranks6902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Byzantine41 I agree.

    • @provablegrub4581
      @provablegrub4581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Byzantine41 Except that the history is shot to bits. Cato wasn’t even 15 when Sulla took power and the depiction of Sulla is ahistorical here. I do agree that they are both brilliant actors though.

    • @panoskatrin4910
      @panoskatrin4910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@provablegrub4581 dude come on they just wanted to show how threatened the senete would have seen sulla,a senete which was fullied with Marius supporters,Sulla himself had strong opinions on how the senete should faction But you are right he is portrayed completely inaccurate since in his mind the people of rome was just a mob which could only be controlled by a strong senate ,he wasn't so much a tyrant who wanted to just eat and fuck but he truly valued political stability

  • @wilsontheconqueror8101
    @wilsontheconqueror8101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The hatred between Marius & Sulla spilled out across Rome into one of the nastiest civil wars of the Republic. Its good to see pivotal Roman figures such as Cato & Sulla portrayed by heavyweights like Walken & the late Harris. Well done! And yes Sulla did put up proscription list of his enemies that included Senators,equestrians & commoners. By the second time Sulla took Rome Marius was dead,and Sullas vetern army defeated his son. The amazing thing is Sulla gave up the dictatorship & retired! Caesar later criticized Sulla for surrendering power. But Sulla died at home in his bed,Caesar died from stab wounds from Senators at the foot of a statue of Pompey.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's said that, the same day Sulla renounced to dictatorship, one man publicly insulted him. Sulla stated: "Idiot. From now on no dictator will resign anymore."

  • @prodigallink
    @prodigallink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    The only time Albus Dumbledore was able to silence Archangel Gabriel.

    • @owlsayssouth
      @owlsayssouth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "Do you know how you got that dent, in your top lip? Way back, before you were born, I told you a secret, then I put my finger there and I said "Shhhhh!""

  • @badman231177
    @badman231177 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Any one who loves this movie and would like to experience the roman history asif they were reading the dune novels or Ice and fire anthology should read Colleen McCullough's Rome series of books. Truly epic. Six books of awesomeness. All the heroes and villains are there doing their thing. The protagonists are Marius first, then Sulla, Pompey, Caesar(obvs) and Octavian. Such a good read. Having said that, it would take even an average reader a couple of months to get through them all but it's well worth it.

    • @colinr1960
      @colinr1960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have read them twice. It helps that she was a visiting speaker on Roman history at Harvard (I believe. Memory fades.) History set to drama. I often wonder why we change history “with poetic licence”, when history is so great by itself.

    • @badman231177
      @badman231177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@colinr1960 I know right. Funny enough I read them twice too. It was like watching a favourite Netflix series but better

  • @Lumpenkasperle
    @Lumpenkasperle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +425

    "Since when did the senat ever represent the people??" The Romans had the same problems as we have today. ;-)

    • @alonenjersey
      @alonenjersey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      So sad yet so true.

    • @luftim
      @luftim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      they had a tribune of the plebian tho. they had veto of any desicion of the consuls

    • @Lumpenkasperle
      @Lumpenkasperle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@luftim Yes, of course, but did the tribunes truly represent their people? They had the right to veto the action of the magistrates, but they had no real legislative or executive power. And they were not allowed to leave the city of Rome, so their actions and availability was limited to the city. Nowadays the people also elects its "tribunes", but do they really represent our interests? The pro-election promises are often forgotten after the election. I assume, that it was similar in ancient Rome.

    • @caiawlodarski5339
      @caiawlodarski5339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Lumpenkasperle The plebeian assembly WAS the people. And they had legislative authority, they could propose laws directly to the pleibean assembly without going to the senate.

    • @Dr.TJ_Eckleburg
      @Dr.TJ_Eckleburg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      We have a house of representatives, which is the equivalent of the plebeian assembly. The senate is actually meant to represent the states, not the people directly. Most people don't know this, but up until fairly recently, there were no elections for senate -- senators were appointed by state legislatures. That's how the founders intended it. The law was changed in 1913. Frankly it made more sense in the original construction; now instead of one body that represents the interests of state governments entirely, we basically have a super-house. It's redundant.

  • @thepiratepenguin4465
    @thepiratepenguin4465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The second time Richard Harris marched troops into a government assembly.

    • @kingfedrick4698
      @kingfedrick4698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ha yes, Cromwell (1970) I forgot about that movie

    • @yngvebalmsteen9174
      @yngvebalmsteen9174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kingfedrick4698 First Richard Harris movie I ever saw!

  • @KTChamberlain
    @KTChamberlain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Sulla: "Cato, why is your mouth hanging open?"
    That would have been a low-blow if he asked that to the Cato from HBO's Rome, since his actor suffered a stroke.

    • @C00kiesAplenty
      @C00kiesAplenty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @November
      It wasn't pro Caesar the actor was just very charismatic. Like the real Caesar. Re watch a lot of his scenes, and pay attention to the actual dialogue.

    • @DustinTheGreat1123
      @DustinTheGreat1123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cookies Aplenty just rewatched the series and wholeheartedly agree

    • @cortex383
      @cortex383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @November Cato was younger than Caesar it's true. But the stereotypes of conservatives being old means a lot of people just cast him as an old man.

    • @seandlax9
      @seandlax9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@C00kiesAplenty It's def pro Caesar. Best example is how dirty they do Cato in the series. Instead of the stoic and famously uncorruptable Senator he was in real life, they portray Cato as a guy throwing a temper tantrum. Who's primary concern is keeping power in the aristocracy rather than being fearful that Caesar is another Sulla in the making.
      If I remember right, Sulla isn't even mentioned once in the HBO series.

    • @imonlyamanandiwilldiesomed4406
      @imonlyamanandiwilldiesomed4406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Juno's cunt, man! Have you run mad!??

  • @saul1001
    @saul1001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I need to watch this. Those few minutes of Richard Harris did it for me. Amazing actor.

  • @logoseven3365
    @logoseven3365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    “...for your sake, you better hope, the food is good.”

    • @Noutelus
      @Noutelus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good job at repeating the last thing that was said, like 100.000.000 commenters before you.

    • @logoseven3365
      @logoseven3365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Aqw aq
      238 commentators

    • @Noutelus
      @Noutelus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@logoseven3365 Yeah nice avoiding my comment..

    • @logoseven3365
      @logoseven3365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aqw aq
      So sorry, I didn’t recognize who I was dealing with. 23 people gave it a thumbs up. Sorry I didn’t affirm you. You are a good person and people like you. I wish I could give you a big hug 🤗.

    • @suaiman4263
      @suaiman4263 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      talk about a lot of pressure on the chef...sheesh!!!

  • @olliegueret2963
    @olliegueret2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Richard Harris is LEGENDARY!!! His biography is so entertaining!

  • @adbar89
    @adbar89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    I got Oliver Cromwell vibes

    • @smoochym
      @smoochym 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Something that wasn't lost on Cromwell's critics at the time, John Milton even directly quotes Juvenal; "we too gave advice to Sulla, now we give it to the people."

    • @Lightingwarrior
      @Lightingwarrior 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Of course both men took power through military force after a civil war and became dictator of their nation and marched troops into senate/parliament to impose their will on the members

    • @adbar89
      @adbar89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @UNSCForwardontodawn exactly, I was binge watching his Cromwell performance before I found this vid

    • @dibdap2373
      @dibdap2373 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @UNSCForwardontodawn Jewish actors have played Nazis before.

    • @jeffhreid
      @jeffhreid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn’t end well for Sulla or Cromwell.

  • @Laotzu.Goldbug
    @Laotzu.Goldbug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Richard Harris playing Sulla doing a Marius impression

  • @johnyounardi8749
    @johnyounardi8749 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Regardless of his misrepresentation Sulla Richard Harris was one of the finest actors ever! He could have played any Greek or Roman or Egyptian with flair… he just read the script he was given .. But this really does bring you into the full movie right away

  • @jbsarmiento9703
    @jbsarmiento9703 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "I have just changed Roman Law."
    that line! 💪

  • @harvestcanada
    @harvestcanada 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "You have nothing to fear your not on my list"
    I wish I had a classics teacher.

  • @bimoraharjo9050
    @bimoraharjo9050 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    “Since when did the senate ever represent the people?” Sulla asked calmly.

    • @dohalim-il-qaras
      @dohalim-il-qaras ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He make a point.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dohalim-il-qaras Yeah, but those words are much more apt for Marius.
      Sulla was very pro-senate. His reforms as a dictator brought back Roman legislation of about two centuries. He deprived the Plebeian Tribunes of their veto power over laws passed by the Senate, and practically abolished the Lex Hortensia (which made all resolutions passed by the Plebeian Council, known as plebiscita, binding on all citizens). After his reforms, the senatorial class, the aristocrats, had all the power. That's why the only hope for the "populares" was a man that could bypass the Senate thanks to military strength. Like Caesar.

    • @dohalim-il-qaras
      @dohalim-il-qaras 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@neutronalchemist3241 Yea but i tend to think that most of the thing that "we know" are not accurate...u know what i mean?

  • @jstrahan2
    @jstrahan2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Richard Harris was about 72 (he looks older) when he played Lucius Sulla here. Sulla was only 60 when he died.

    • @jstrahan2
      @jstrahan2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Zfast4you : Well, they would look about as good. :)

  • @ConstantineJoseph
    @ConstantineJoseph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Richard Harris always steals the show when he's acting.

  • @richarderikssonhjelm8838
    @richarderikssonhjelm8838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    "I have just changed Roman law" Chilling

  • @DedicatedSpartan
    @DedicatedSpartan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Richard Harris always owns the senate when he walks in it.

    • @FilmandClips
      @FilmandClips  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure he does! 😎

    • @DedicatedSpartan
      @DedicatedSpartan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@FilmandClips did it as Cromwell to (parliament)

    • @Rendell001
      @Rendell001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Does this mean that Richard Harris owns Palpatine then?!?

  • @Lorgar64
    @Lorgar64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Sad fact: Sulla's actor died before the series was released.

    • @Vampirewolfking
      @Vampirewolfking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And they also had to replace him with Michael Gambon in Harry Potter films.

    • @yngvebalmsteen9174
      @yngvebalmsteen9174 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why did he die so abruptly?

    • @Lorgar64
      @Lorgar64 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yngvebalmsteen9174 Lymphoma.

    • @koalabandit9166
      @koalabandit9166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sulla did too.

    • @thechosenone1533
      @thechosenone1533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not surprising. He was barely hanging on in this scene.

  • @brav0wing
    @brav0wing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "Make sure you debate how I want you to debate" - the definition of a dictatorship.

  • @Loner-Wolf
    @Loner-Wolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Harris and Walken...two great actors

  • @seankennedy6676
    @seankennedy6676 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sulla would not have said that to Metellus. Metellus was one of his strongest allies and most reliable Legates. Metellus was courageous enough to ask because he knew that.

    • @Cleeon
      @Cleeon ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also, Metelleus is from optimates party, their family was aristocratic

  • @solinvictus39
    @solinvictus39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Beyond the historical inaccuracies dealing with the persons shown in the scene, the legionaries are outfitted completely wrong for the time frame. During the first century BC legionaries would be wearing chainmail, and a Montefortino-type helmet.

    • @royalhero4608
      @royalhero4608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exactly, I hate it when people depict Caesar's veterans in lorica segmentata etc. Give me lorica hamata and plumed Montefortino helmets any day!

    • @williamalfonso1373
      @williamalfonso1373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it was a TV mini series, prob low budget and had to make due with what they had on hand.

    • @bolshoefeodor6536
      @bolshoefeodor6536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or more likely the Coolius Helm? But for sure mail jerkins. And the gladius hispaniensis.

    • @JOhnDoe-nl4wj
      @JOhnDoe-nl4wj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      and they spoke english instead of latin, totally inaccurate!

    • @solinvictus39
      @solinvictus39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JOhnDoe-nl4wj Different issue. You can't teach the whole production to speak proper Latin, as no one alive even knows what it sounded like. You CAN have the production wear the proper attire and use the proper weapons, because we have archaelogical evidence of those things.

  • @ruly8153
    @ruly8153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Harris is such a legend

  • @paullowman9131
    @paullowman9131 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure about the historical accuracy here, but the acting was extraordinary. The dread and angst of suddenly being under a true tyrant's thumb was palpable and immediate.

  • @johnsteiner3417
    @johnsteiner3417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    It doesn't matter what emperor Richard Harris plays, he's always good at it.

    • @anonymousskunk
      @anonymousskunk ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don’t think the Empire had yet been formed.

    • @jeangove01
      @jeangove01 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the Roman Republic still, and Harris is playing Sulla, a Consul and a Dictator of Rome. He's being portrayed as accusing the Senate as not being representative of the people but he belonged to the Optimates "party" and wouldn't have cared about such a thing - for him the Senate would have been an aristocratic institution, and in any case, his strongest opponents were from the Populares side.

    • @joaosusano845
      @joaosusano845 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sulla wasn't an emperor, but I get your point

  • @benjsmithproductions
    @benjsmithproductions 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "....Dumbledore said calmly"

  • @theshadowman9148
    @theshadowman9148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Dumbledore is pretty pissed.

  • @urmo345
    @urmo345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The only guy who treated Senate this way was Emperor Maximinus Thrax, brutal savage of low birth, and he never met Senate or was in Rome (his head was). Some Emperors however openly mocked the Senate, like Caligula (yes, he did it real) and Commodus.

    • @marcoslaureano5562
      @marcoslaureano5562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Commodus was not the sniveling politician that historians have made him out to be. Not at ALL. He merely hated the backstabbing politics of the senate as he grew up watching them closely. He obviously, as a gladiator, preferred to face his enemies head on. I believe this is why he mocked them openly. The first couple of years of Commodus reign went much the way his father's reign went. The senate AND their HISTORIANS hated him.

  • @John-ko3rm
    @John-ko3rm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm still a fan of Claudius. How crafty he was to assume power in the way he did.

  • @Cybermat47
    @Cybermat47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh look, another movie where Richard Harris bursts into a senate/parliament and takes over.

  • @freakyold
    @freakyold 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Metellus: "Please excuse me - I have to go to the vomitorium".

    • @Serai3
      @Serai3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Something interesting out in the hallway?

    • @adventussaxonum448
      @adventussaxonum448 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Serai3
      Ha! Nice one!

  • @yourface1218
    @yourface1218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Ah yes, Roman soldiers wearing Lorica Segmentata armor a full 100 years too early, Cato in the Senate chatting with Sulla at a time when he would have been a child, smells like Hollywood

    • @BattlestarGenesis
      @BattlestarGenesis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah that was bugging me too

    • @filipkozon2182
      @filipkozon2182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try Storm before the storm by Mike Duncan, it is excellent

    • @ZDProds-c8p
      @ZDProds-c8p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Christ you must be fun at parties. Its a film mate, get over it

    • @felipitofeliciano8652
      @felipitofeliciano8652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cato the elder was a contemporary of Sulla. Cato the younger was a contemporary of Caesar. Both Cato’s were relative. Father and son.

    • @pyry1948
      @pyry1948 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      take it easy, if these films get a single man of simple mind to read history for themselves, it was worth it to make.

  • @silencia08
    @silencia08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Rome needs more Cow Bells!!!

    • @michaelwilliams369
      @michaelwilliams369 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂 You beat me to it!

    • @Conan_the_Based
      @Conan_the_Based 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *stabs Caesar through marble column*
      "We ratify your consulship loud and clear."

    • @joelcriollo5919
      @joelcriollo5919 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was searching for this comment

  • @babitayadav4806
    @babitayadav4806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Cato was 13 years old at this time(Sulla's civil war)
    Why is he a senator
    These filmmakers always portray Cato to be older than he should be (HBO rome too) so that they can give him the archetype of old conservative aristocrat even though he was 5 yrs younger than Caesar & 11 years younger than Pompey and he was born in a plebian (albeit rich) family

    • @Cleeon
      @Cleeon ปีที่แล้ว

      What's? I just know Cato is from plebeian family?

  • @AK-dr8we
    @AK-dr8we 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    * Is this legal?
    - I will make it legal.

  • @TheSololobo
    @TheSololobo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    By all accounts and measures the Romans had the most sophisticated form of government at the time, one that prevailed to be the basis for all modern societies to come.

    • @edwardhogan1877
      @edwardhogan1877 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well said! I guess you are refering to the Republic? A pity it could not survive the expansion of slavery and the decline of the freeman class...

  • @b.thomas8926
    @b.thomas8926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Caesar! I think I have a fever!
    and the cure...
    is more cowbell.

  • @jonrevaew2197
    @jonrevaew2197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love this scene. Richard Harris is amazing

  • @helmuthvonmoltke858
    @helmuthvonmoltke858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Fun Fact* Sulla was actually an ally of the conservatives on the Senate (The Optimates), which was the majority of them and only the The liberals (The Populares) along the tribunes that feared Sulla because the are allies of Marius in the senate, So most of them find their names on the Proscription (Sulla's Black List)

  • @ethericboy
    @ethericboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:56 "I can`t possibly kill everyone so I will kill only you" Numbnuts`s bigmouth got him killed. If I was a Senator when Sulla came in I would stay seated,never meet Sullas`s gaze and try to make myself as "small" as possible, would`nt you?

  • @balin1920
    @balin1920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    To be fair most senators did their time in the legions and as governors and functionaries in the provinces. While prestigious and lucrative they were not all orgies and wine.

    • @taroman7100
      @taroman7100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      yes, I get so sick and tired of how Rome has been presented by Hollywood

    • @RomanBraixen
      @RomanBraixen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As much as I liked this movie, I have to agree with you. So many historical inaccuracies in it

    • @lucianosantucci108
      @lucianosantucci108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe not all orgies and wine - perhaps mostly wine and some orgies.

    • @raymondjurie9047
      @raymondjurie9047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They all did spend time in the military, not so much as legionnaires, but their entry level was sort of like starting at Lieutenant and being a junior officer. And it wasn't most of the Senatorial class it was all in the Republic. Although someone like Cicero had a very short military career and made his name in the law courts. Making a name for yourself as a military leader was the most common way to achieve the Dignitas and Fama to run for high office. Having a big name like coming from the family of the Caecilii Metelli or Cornelii Scipiones was vitally important to. Although as others above have pointed out the Novus Homo like Marius won high office too.

    • @raymondjurie9047
      @raymondjurie9047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Gary Daniel Well when you take into account the patronage/clientelia system that was practiced at the time, it's not too dissimilar in many ways.

  • @camotophat
    @camotophat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For a minute I thought this was some kind of deleted scene from Gladiator.

  • @The1980Philip
    @The1980Philip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sulla was protrayed as a wanton sadist. However, Gaius Julius Caesar's death showed that he wasn't sadistis, but realistic. Caesar was so unrealistically eager to be friends with everybody again after defeating them in battle and destroying their ideals that it ended up killing him. Sulla knew better, and so did Octavian.

    • @thescholarlychronicler1805
      @thescholarlychronicler1805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The1980Philip -- I shall add and challenege. Julius was a populist and wanted the approval of the people, it fuelled his ambitions.
      That unrealistic eagerness was a consistent PR move to seem generous and lenient. By constantly making friends he wanted to seem the nice guy, and stay in power.
      Sulla and Octavion weren't interested in playing that game to the same extent as Julius.

    • @LeeTiller
      @LeeTiller ปีที่แล้ว

      Like Chronicler said Caesar wanted to spare as many senators as he could so as to preserve all the senators since they were sort of celeberties of their days and held influence and support. pr moves and preserving the senate

  • @erosthespacesoldier1712
    @erosthespacesoldier1712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent performances and cinematography. I have never seen this movie but will see it now.

  • @cflo1386
    @cflo1386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Talking about the queen again Bob? On independence day!"

    • @EricWilke1141987
      @EricWilke1141987 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess you think i'm kicking you Bob? But it ain't so!!

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164
    @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The actors all bring back images of past movies like Gladiator, Batman, The Deer Hunter, James Bond A View To A Kill, Harry Potter, all at the same time.

  • @taroman7100
    @taroman7100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's a good representation of the Senate house which still stands.

    • @John-tc9gp
      @John-tc9gp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The senate house which stands today is not the same building. It was built long after the time when this scene is set

  • @Taffer-bx7uc
    @Taffer-bx7uc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Christopher Walken playing as a Roman senator....well I've seen everything now.

    • @timhallas4275
      @timhallas4275 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My first thought too.

    • @pentuplove6542
      @pentuplove6542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You never watch him as a gangster of New York. Federal USA is modelled on Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece. Federal USA does allow a few Plebs in to give the illusion of a Constutional Republic with strong ties with Democracy, yet it isnt a Real Democracy. Switzerland is a real Democracy.
      Federal USA has Congressmen and Congresswomen and the same for Senators casting votes for absent members who are paid for being absent.
      Federal USA Government run by gangsters, traitors, child molesters and criminals. Who will rarely if ever be jailed or executed for their crimes.

    • @Taffer-bx7uc
      @Taffer-bx7uc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pentuplove6542 Wut...

    • @fernandoduarte8067
      @fernandoduarte8067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isnt this the guy that danced in a music video?

    • @timhallas4275
      @timhallas4275 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fernandoduarte8067 this is the guy who played Russian Roulette with the Vietcong in the movie the Deer Hunter. This is the guy who told the king of the jungle story in Pool Hall Junkies.

  • @92Beyo
    @92Beyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Spoiler: The food was not good

  • @toschememestation1031
    @toschememestation1031 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wrong me, whom I have not repaid in full.” -Lucius Cornelius Sulla, self-written epitaph

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Meanwhile, Sertorius in Spain "Hey! I'm still here!"

    • @toschememestation1031
      @toschememestation1031 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@neutronalchemist3241 yes..in spain, with no possibility of returning
      And meanwhile some Sulla followers, checking out his ex property

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@toschememestation1031 He was governing the Iberian peninsula and had repeatedly beaten the armies that Sulla sent against him. It was not like he was being punished.

    • @toschememestation1031
      @toschememestation1031 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@neutronalchemist3241 thier is a reason, why Sertorius in Iberia was tolerated
      And two generation later, sextus pompeius in Sicily, needed to be crushed
      Sertorius was hiding out, fortifying his position and allying with tribes, that hated Rome anyway
      His success, was based on his personal influence in the region
      So it was likely, that everything would crumble, after his death
      And even if that would not have been the case, the problem would never grow, out of proportion
      So the issue could always been dealt later
      On the other hand, Sextus Pompeius in Sicily
      only needed to play Pirates of the Mediterranean and intercept some grain ships
      To make things in Rome so miserable, that they offer him south Greece, if he would stop staving them
      And after he refused, they acted immediately
      Agustus was even bagging Anthony in the east,for help
      Which indicates how desperate the situation was
      So one could argue, that his insurrection was way more successful
      In my opinion
      Sertorius is remarkable for his attempt, to export the concept rome, to a different region, basically trying to create a hole new state
      But not so much for his longterm success

  • @patinho5589
    @patinho5589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was very good! I’m curious to watch the movie now

  • @bhbluebird
    @bhbluebird 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    welp, that sure was intimidating.

  • @nocapbussin
    @nocapbussin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "What this senate needs, is more cowbell" -Cato

  • @damienthrash2202
    @damienthrash2202 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “SULLA???” (Lawrence Olivier ala ‘Spartacus’ injection🤣)

  • @igregmart
    @igregmart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Julius Caesar, now there was a real man and leader. You can bet if there was TV in those days the common people would have been cheering him on.

  • @dkupke
    @dkupke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Even as a guy who loves historical costume pieces and Christopher Walken, this was some batshit insane miscasting.

    • @markgundle4150
      @markgundle4150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Christopher Walken is never miscast.

    • @1PJ7
      @1PJ7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They, should, have had him, speak, Latin. That way, nobody, could even tell.

  • @gameblor
    @gameblor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Wow, actual acting from a time when the cult of celebrity didn't loom over everything.

    • @Piterdeveirs333
      @Piterdeveirs333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The movie isn't that old

    • @yngvebalmsteen9174
      @yngvebalmsteen9174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Piterdeveirs333 Still. Acting is dead now, seemingly overshadowed by hype and clout.

  • @Gloopular
    @Gloopular 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Duck of Death striking fear in the heart of wretched polititians...

  • @vojtechdjakov7271
    @vojtechdjakov7271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sulla is so good in this scene

  • @katymorgan327
    @katymorgan327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we need our army to march on Washington senate and do this right now in 2021 !

  • @chevalierjd
    @chevalierjd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Remember the Golden Rule: "He who holds the Power, makes the rules.".

    • @ajc564
      @ajc564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thought it was "He who has the Gold, Makes the rules"

    • @chevalierjd
      @chevalierjd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ajc564 Probably so... sentiment is the same for all tyrants.

  • @ExVeritateLibertas
    @ExVeritateLibertas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I understand artistic license, but what would have been so hard about making this even vaguely conform to history? Oh I guess whoever wrote this would have needed to actually learn Roman history...

    • @andrewdeshazo9343
      @andrewdeshazo9343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was thinking that when I watched. That portrayal of Caesar sounded nothing like the man that was. For all of Caesar's self-interest and ambition, he was not tempestuous and evil as .he is portrayed here. I don't recall reading that he ever made a direct threat on Cicero's life. I can't imagine that he would have ever made such a reckless risk, killing Rome's most famous statesman. Haven't seen this film, and I won't see any more of it than I already have.

    • @EbonAvatar
      @EbonAvatar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewdeshazo9343 You have it all wrong. Harris is portraying Sulla in this scene, not Caesar. That other senator he threatened was not Cicero.

    • @andrewdeshazo9343
      @andrewdeshazo9343 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EbonAvatar I am very wrong then! That all sounded exactly like Sulla. :D

    • @EbonAvatar
      @EbonAvatar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewdeshazo9343 no worries! Always glad to nerd out over Roman history with other fans. Sulla is a really underrated historical figure I think. So interesting and so comparatively little-known to most people

  • @wolfjedisamuel
    @wolfjedisamuel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm sorry, am I watching "Cromwell" again?

  • @nocturnalrecluse1216
    @nocturnalrecluse1216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So Marcus Arelius's ancestor was Sulla?

  • @Beowulf-eg2li
    @Beowulf-eg2li 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gentlemen! An immovable senate is more obnoxious than an immovable Emperor!

  • @budders9958
    @budders9958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Wasn't Sulla a conservative? He was not a populist.

    • @El-Silver
      @El-Silver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He was but in the later years as during the early days the man fought against the Senate power for the benefit of the state but when he was finished he was worried that others would replicate him .

  • @SmokeyBCN
    @SmokeyBCN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This movie oddly painted Sulla as a people's revolutionary when he was quite the opposite. He was a staunch conservative and optimate, and after seizing power, undid many of the popular reforms that his arch-rival Marius had enacted, and greatly diminished the representation of plebians in government.

  • @useyourbrain1539
    @useyourbrain1539 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Richard Harris is incomprable, always.

  • @sorestarbing3978
    @sorestarbing3978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Sulla looks too old in this version. He should be around 50s at that time

    • @CrniWuk
      @CrniWuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And Kato should be a child.

  • @nobbytang
    @nobbytang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sulla.....the first who showed Pompey , Ceaser and Marcus Anthonius the way ...

  • @cainespade514
    @cainespade514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Oliver Cromwell stormed the SENATE!!!

  • @tadghmurphy7807
    @tadghmurphy7807 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh poor Richard. He could deliver lines like an eel to water.

  • @geoffreycarson2311
    @geoffreycarson2311 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RICHARD Harris !!! AS LUCIUS !!!Sulla 😔And OLIVER Cromwell !!!! A MASTER Of MENACE !!! & An Actor SUPREME g

  • @terranman4702
    @terranman4702 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sulla was an optimale and of noble birth. Well he was poor in His youth and knew the ordinary people but He was no self proclaimed champion of them. He gave more power to the Senate.

  • @michaelgaskell2031
    @michaelgaskell2031 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s very sensible to keep 1’s mouth firmly shut and observe

  • @bradledoux6885
    @bradledoux6885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why does Sulla look about twenty years older than he was?

  • @an-tm3250
    @an-tm3250 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an excellent movie.

  • @blazzered2
    @blazzered2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Richard Harris, Sulla meeting Richard Harris, Cromwell would be interesting.

  • @turinmormegil7715
    @turinmormegil7715 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Since when did the Senate represent the people?"
    - Sulla asked calmly

  • @JosephSchneider26
    @JosephSchneider26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The tragic of the Roman republic lies within the blind spot of ancient times: Economy.
    Success was limited to and exained by military virtue and agricultural business. The economical changes that accompagnied Romes growth could hardly be recognized by a value system like the Roman one.

  • @malgorzatamiroslawakim7187
    @malgorzatamiroslawakim7187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHERING MOVIE,

  • @MrHalohunter24
    @MrHalohunter24 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Richard Harris made a career of busting into rooms and saying the people in it didn’t represent the people.

  • @greatmike3120
    @greatmike3120 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Though the movie is inaccurate I really liked the set. Its not plain white marble with red curtains like we see in so many other roman movies.

  • @CrimeaRiver
    @CrimeaRiver 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ...Julius Caesar said calmly.

  • @arhturlegend007
    @arhturlegend007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love Richard Harris

  • @cgavin1
    @cgavin1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP Richard fucking Harris.
    What an actor and as an Irishman he knew full well the tryanny of Kings!

  • @92Beyo
    @92Beyo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Evil Dumbledore :D

  • @fkerpants
    @fkerpants 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Since when did the senate ever represent the people?"
    I'm asking that question right now, as a matter of fact.

    • @RonaldAArias
      @RonaldAArias 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lets think of our senators and see that most of those bums have been holding office for 20 plus years that says it all

    • @LordTalax
      @LordTalax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Since you voted them in