How to - Episode 14 - Coach Lighting

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  • @Darryl603
    @Darryl603 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice job! Thoroughly explained and the camera work is exceptional. Thanks for taking the time to share with us.

  • @MikeSavageguitars
    @MikeSavageguitars 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a most informative video. On the topic of DC operation, having used your method many times I can confirm that the illustrated circuit (with the rectifier the right way round) does work on DC and the rectifier is also crucial if using the capacitor. look forward to more videos in future.

  • @victimandvillan
    @victimandvillan 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very impressive. It really takes the layout to another level, and your in depth tutorial made me feel confident that even I could try this despite me having limited understanding in electrics. Thank you for this, keep the awesome videos coming

  • @paultrentini2622
    @paultrentini2622 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again, a thoroughly well thought out presentation. Make one feel an expert.

  • @wattass7
    @wattass7 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    total respect, iv just sat n watched this and im still gobsmacked, but you are 100% rite, it transforms your layout, must say thank you for all your fantastic how to vids, they are so good and informative, thanks

  • @devilsbox
    @devilsbox 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Good instruction and a very cool final result. Thank you for posting it.

  • @wjcoll
    @wjcoll 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent tutorial. Just one point. You can't just exclude the rectifier for DC.
    If the carriages were run in reverse on a DC layout the circuit would need reverse current protection for the LEDs (which wouldn't illuminate anyway if polarity is reversed). You also need to use an NP or non-polarised capacitor or it could explode if reverse current is applied.
    I'm fairly sure about this but others with more electronics experience may want to confirm.

    • @johnm8342
      @johnm8342 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True… a capacitor is more of a filter for DC i.e., used for tweeters (speakers)

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    havent seen your videos for ages, excellent mate just going back in to OO gauge after a while away, ill be browsing your channel for some more tips, excellent work.!

  • @DeanPark
    @DeanPark 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    sorry, a typo I meant to ask "have you had any issues of the cold affecting the paintwork ON locos and coaches?" Or are the coaches etc resistant to the cold and fluctuation in temperatures you get from a loft layout? Look forward to your views! Cheers

  • @ShelvokeSPV
    @ShelvokeSPV 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You will need the bridge rectifier on DC as well because the polarity is reversed when the train is reversed. This will blow the electrolyic cap, plus it will probably pop the LED's because they aren't designed to reverse block high currents.

    • @andrewdking
      @andrewdking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that's true, you still need a bridge rectifier on dc. Because of the device's round black shape for use on my Hornby Autocoach, I cut off one of the vacuum cylinders under the chassis, and substituted the device. Lots of electronics can be hidden under the floor of those Autocoaches. I've also made a video showing this, but currently I am awaiting my new workstation laptop before uploading it to TH-cam.

  • @Snowdonia2011
    @Snowdonia2011 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video tutorial, very easy to understand and very well explained. Congratulation!

  • @garethpauljones1
    @garethpauljones1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video. It has inspired me to give it ago when i've got my basic layout sorted.
    Many thanks.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are correct to be concerned. If you look at the diagram you will see a 220 ohm resistor before the flow of charge reaches the capacitor.
    That resistor reduces the 12V DC output from the rectifier to 9.8V at the capacitor if the other resistor is set at 1000ohms.

  • @richardwale7300
    @richardwale7300 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just tried the aluminium foil idea to bridge the bogie axle bush - works a treat! Thanks very much.

  • @arfclarke
    @arfclarke 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this I will be definitely be using this as a frame of reference when I get round to doing the same. I would also like to take the opportunity in saying How much I'm enjoying all your video's to date .
    Many thanks.
    Anthony

  • @lestercooper1871
    @lestercooper1871 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi ,Thanks for vid Richard .I found another way to get the power through the plastic bush was use a thin strand of wire instead of the foil .Have tried it and it works ok .After feeding the wire through the bush i use a 1.8mm needle and after feeding the wire through the bush ,put the needle through the bush and wire ..That way it lines up the bush and metal wheel and is easier to locate the bush into the wheel ,as it,s very fiddly to get that bush back into the wheel for those that haven't got nimble fingers .Hope this helps anyone doing this modification ..

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the open coaches I hide the circuit in the toilet area of the coach. It's a good idea to mark the stripboard for the leds to keep the spacing even.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've used this circuit in all my mk3s, it fits well at either end by the doors. For couplings I'm slowly moving over to kadees.

  • @mark3009
    @mark3009 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent video tutorial. I was very much looking forward to see how you did this. Thanks!

  • @daz1975ify
    @daz1975ify 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool film you do an ace job of making it understandable , just got my first train set and am looking forward to watching your films and having ago myself.

  • @w.rustylane5650
    @w.rustylane5650 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do all of my coach lighting for my DC only railroad. I ordered some LED strip lighting, 3300uF capacitors, mini full wave bridge rectifiers (the little square ones) from fleaBay (which came from China for under $15.00. I made my own pickups from little copper strips salvaged from an old computer. The LED strip lighting (300 on a roll) can be cut apart at every 3rd LED and have the ballast (current limiting) resistors already mounted on each 3rd LED. I think I used 12 LED's per coach. The LED strip has an adhesive backing which easily mounts to the interior roofing and they are 12 volt DC. I have converted all the incandescent lighting to LED strip lighting on all my coaches and plan to do 4 more Riverossi coaches. Of course you have to use metal wheel sets with one insulated wheel. The REA (Railroad Express Agency) coach lights were too bright (I used bright white LED's) so I painted each LED with some yellow acrylic paint and now they look period correct. Now I've found Loksound ESU current collectors (#50707) from LItchfield Trains for around $13.75 which includes shipping and will do 8 axles. The trick is to cut them apart and mount (super glue/epoxy-your choice) them on the bottom of the trucks. One for each opposing wheel, so you only need one pair per coach/caboose to do the job. The pickups rub against the wheel and not the axle. They have solder pads to connect the wires to your LED strip lighting, full wave bridge rectifiers and 3300uF caps. I can do coach/caboose lighting for under $2.00/coach-caboose. Cheers & 73 from W Rusty Lane K9POW in eastern Tennessee (& yes, I'm a Ham)

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    wiring 4 leds in series you will only need a 22 ohm SMT resistor. this will then connect straight into the dcc concepts decoder, this is a perfect solution for n gauge, i only ever use 1206 SMT leds, they give off unbelievably diffused light.

  • @sandosgarage3180
    @sandosgarage3180 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work, looks fantastic!

  • @lunhil12
    @lunhil12 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent tutorial. It would probably work well with the new led tapes as well, less soldering. They have resistors already installed for 12 volt circuits.

  • @paredding
    @paredding 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good one - thanks - and very timely as just about to fit lighting into my GNER Lima/Hornby MkIIIs. I have purchased light strips from Express models but have taken note of your power pick-up system as was looking at inter-coach connectors.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, I really like that case. Much better than my old coolermaster stacker.

  • @oldwrinkley1
    @oldwrinkley1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the info. Keep those vids coming I have learnt a lot from you. thanks once again.

  • @NarrowGauge1
    @NarrowGauge1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just be aware that the bridge rectifier drawn in the circuit at 5:35 is incorrect. The individual diodes should point towards the +ve DC point of the rectifier.

  • @darrenpjohnson2194
    @darrenpjohnson2194 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cracking work, good to catch up with Everard Junction some fantastic videos all the best Darren NSE DAZ

  • @jonhunt5408
    @jonhunt5408 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A couple tips,
    You can slightly bend the 'legs' of your electronic components once inserted into your strip board, no more burnt fingers.
    You should cut back the legs on your capacitor to prevent accidental contact with other components of your circuit.
    Investing in a second roll of wire to have at least one other colour makes assembling circuits easier to understand and troubleshoot.
    You can purchase electrical solder with flux core that does not require the copious amounts of flux that you seem to be using, this prevents corrosion of components, accidental soldering of adjacent strips on your board, and makes for a cleaner assembly.
    Shrink tubing would help protect your pickup assembly which looks like accidental shorting is very possible.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen those, good idea. I was on a budget as I have so many coaches to wire up.

  • @chasethatmonkey101
    @chasethatmonkey101 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll eventually get to doing the coach lighting. When I get a layout started, and a few more trains. Because the American economy is so bad, most of us don't even have jobs. But great tutorial, really helpful.

  • @toffie702
    @toffie702 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    great one mate loved it, looks great too, now just some night time running sessions

  • @retrainrun
    @retrainrun 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial! very well explain, thanks! I just did something like that but for a engine facility pit. I'll make a video sometime to show how I did it. Again thanks for sharing!

  • @Oranoco
    @Oranoco 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thinking of doing this to my Hornby Pullman coaches. Useful video, thanks :-)

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, I spotted the rectifier issue after i'd uploaded. At least I wired the coach correctly!

  • @hornbachhh
    @hornbachhh 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rich , the coach lights on the hst looks great mate well done! ill have to send you mine to do! Have a great xmas mate cheers Andy

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks mate, glad you liked it.

  • @peterwilliams8374
    @peterwilliams8374 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much and much appreciated. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @BB67407
    @BB67407 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good tutorial terry, you should be like me. Write articles for a magazine. This allows me to finance my shopping trains.
    Gérard.

  • @Hound87
    @Hound87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made just made some of these! I know it’s an old one but... Cracking video as always!

  • @pthomas938
    @pthomas938 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I run a rake of bachmann mk1 coaches, can anyone advise the best method for opening them up to add lighting/passengers pls?

  • @ianturner2229
    @ianturner2229 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Suirely you can purchase wheel sets that are only insulated on ONE side ? that would make this whole process so much simpler ?

  • @anthony566
    @anthony566 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another well detailed video .. well done.

  • @TheRealAdamBussey
    @TheRealAdamBussey 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am planning on improving a 225 set with lights on dcc in a semi permanent rack with the decoder in the DVT and using close couplings with electronic couplers.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put the capacitor as near to the toilets as I can, usually by the end doors or in the corridor. The coach is really easy to take apart. Remove the bogies and the unscrew the 3 small screws underneath and pop out any pipework at the ends of the coach. The body should then lift off.

  • @mike6147
    @mike6147 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, I shall give it a whirl. Love your videos and you'll be pleased to know that you are partly to blame for my move from N to OO!

  • @brucewoods9377
    @brucewoods9377 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I take it the wheels on your coaches are both insulated from the axle? Otherwise you could just use the uninsulated wheel on both, but ensure you reassemble the bogeys with the uninsulated wheel opposite each other. There would then be no need for alfoil as you have demonstrated. Today one could just use LED self adhesive strip lighting which operates at 12volts. Otherwise your tutorials are always great value

  • @cjmillsnun
    @cjmillsnun 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    One tip, bend the legs of the LEDs slightly once you have fitted them in the strip board. It holds them still so you don't burn your fingers when soldering ;)

  • @JULIASANTOS-tk8qs
    @JULIASANTOS-tk8qs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question.i bought viessmann lighting coach lights strip.They have leds , rectifying bridge and resistors include built in.Although they dont come with any type of capacitor so they flicker badley while on dirty track/wheels. i tried to add a capacitor by soldering it to the strip but theres no soldering points between the diode bridge and leds or resistors.Do you thin i need another diode bridge on the strip current entrance ? Im running dcc and the capacitor doesnt cope with it of course.Thanks ahead for your videos and help

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, will certainly be doing that.

  • @devonjunction5930
    @devonjunction5930 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi i looking at putting it into my hornby intercity mk4s and i want put in the underframe
    but their is limted space so can tell me the measurements

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, that can happen. If it does try increasing the size of the hole or apply more pressure to the pipe until it goes in.

  • @ronb2943
    @ronb2943 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video and brilliant explanation step by step. Being DCC, what would you have to do if you wanted to control the lights so they are off during the day and turned on at night? Can it be done? Thanks again for the video

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very true, plus you will have to take the coach apart every time a bulb goes! With the number of coaches I have, I would soon overload my DCC with the current draw when using bulbs.

  • @irishrailtrains
    @irishrailtrains 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work the lights on the coaches look awsome, I subscrubed and liked.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Terry, it is difficult as I said. Pre-made boards are available from DCC Concepts, but one you start pricing up a fully lit train of them it becomes very expensive!

  • @marinedalek
    @marinedalek 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a quick tip on soldering - it's generally advisable to follow the steps: Iron in, solder in, solder out, iron out. You use the iron to heat the copper pad and the lead of the component, feed in as little solder as required to make the joint, take the solder away and then remove the iron. It results in cleaner joins using less solder and as long as you don't have grotty old oxidised components you shouldn't need to use flux - normal rosin-cored solder should be fine.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, I get everything from rapid electronics, part numbers are in the video.

  • @metalmagpie1
    @metalmagpie1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just one observations on ebay one can purchase LEDs in strips, both white and warm white which are ideal for sticking inside the coach roof.Avoids fittind separate leds to a circuit board.

  • @gordonburns8731
    @gordonburns8731 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A good series so far and I am very much enjoying it..
    Maybe a tad picky, but electrical cabling has colour coded sleeve insulator in order to make things easy... why is all your wiring in the colour blue? Surely a spool of brown sleeved cabling would make your life easier and certainly those that follow you on TH-cam.
    Just a thought.

    • @ianturner2229
      @ianturner2229 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I agree, it is always good practice to use standard color coding to avoid potential "nasties" - Red for POS, Black for NEG etc.....

    • @roundel52
      @roundel52 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianturner2229 or Red and Black to the track. Yellow and grey the other way? Why reinvent a perfectly good system?

  • @TotallyScaleModels
    @TotallyScaleModels 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great tutorial. You should contact one of the Magazines and get a job with them as this is great stuff. Really really good.

  • @frankstearns3720
    @frankstearns3720 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed your video and nicely explained. I'm looking forward to viewing other episodes. Thanks!

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The solder I use is quite thin, about 1.5 to 2mm thick. People don't like flux because it has corrosive properties, so if you don't remove any excess you can get problems. However I've used flux since I started the layout 4 years ago and have not had any electrical failures due to flux so far.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Locos, coaches and electronics have been fine in the loft. However, extreme cold will require the locos to run for a few laps before they run smoothly. Card kits can be ok, but will not look too good after a few winters.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will be film some night shots, I'm working on getting more of my coaches finished right now..

  • @jbeattie728
    @jbeattie728 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, I had these working on both my coaches. Tested and running fine for about 5 mins. Then both of them just stopped working for reasons i can't figure out. I took the leds off to test them and they are now only working sparatically but definitely not blown. Anyone experienced this or have any idea what it could be?

  • @johnc2ful
    @johnc2ful 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    another good video from you I now have to try it

  • @TrashMan2008
    @TrashMan2008 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video.

  • @benters3509
    @benters3509 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good. Use different colored wires, and cut the legs of the capacitor short. Use heat shrink sleeving over the solder joints. Same where the wires solder to the springs.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have done the HST, it featured in the video. I have now finished the MK1s used for the demonstration.

  • @tomo6368
    @tomo6368 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi fantastic idea. I have copied it but have used 10 leds what resister would i need to use to stop the lights from blowing and keep the lights bright .... cheers paul

  • @37116comet
    @37116comet 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clear tutorial! You've made it simple-ish!
    One question, how do you hide the gubbins in a TSO coach?

  • @komatsu65
    @komatsu65 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video once again and very helpful. Only trouble for me is using the tin foil as conductor. You made it look so easy??? Did you get the axle back in 1st time or did it take you several attempts???

    • @EverardJunction
      @EverardJunction  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can be difficult to get the wheel back on without breaking the tin foil. I use a back to back wheel gauge to make sure i can get the wheel spacing just right in one go.

  • @prprijs
    @prprijs 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! One remark: the rectifier in the electronic circuit should be rotated a quarter turn anti clockwise.

  • @luvspud1
    @luvspud1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to see what Santa brings to Everard Junction.

  • @foxcell
    @foxcell 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video as allways & good work :-D

  • @TimsBitsnPieces
    @TimsBitsnPieces 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A great how to video 11 years ago and a few things have change technology wise with the wheels and circuits and LED's but it is still the basics.
    I've looked through your comments and no one has noticed that your diagram for the bridge rectifier is wrong.. I am very surprised that no one has noticed this....I was taught electronics when I was in school back in the 80's and this seemed wrong in my head and after I checked some of my technical books to find I was correct..... You have 2 of the diodes facing the wrong way.. the top right one and the bottom left one should be facing the other way. The point of the arrow shows the flow of the current and in your picture the top AC current input cannot pass as it is facing the stop part of the diodes and the bottom AC input can flow to both the positive and negative at the same time which is wrong.

  • @rayatlast
    @rayatlast 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool & very educational, Thanks Mate

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, the iron has a variable temp, it does get very hot.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Andy, I wouldn't fancy doing yours as well. I have about 30 to do, I feel like i'm working in a factory!

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good point, however I often have to hold what i'm soldering. I go for the quick in and out approach to avoid burning myself.

  • @spollard01
    @spollard01 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea and looks good.
    What would happen to the lighting if I used the coach on a normal dc layout? Would it still work?

    • @EverardJunction
      @EverardJunction  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wouldn't work on dc with the circuit in this video. However you can just remove the bridge rectifier from the circuit and it should work.

  • @howarth004
    @howarth004 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish I could solder as easy as you make it look , is that a extra high temp iron? Nice demo on adding the lights ,

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, more howto vids to follow.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    As your layout is already dcc I would convert the pacer to dcc. You can then wire up lights via the decoder.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The flow of charge in electronics goes from positive to negative. It's best the reduce the voltage with the resistor first and add the led's once you've stepped the voltage down to the required level.

  • @Gorbyrev
    @Gorbyrev 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    lovely workmanship

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks
    On TSOs I hide the stuff in the toilet. If thats not big enough I use the gangway at the either end by the last door. You do somtimes have to remove a wall or seat to get it all in.

  • @MR66HD
    @MR66HD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bridge rectifier good for DC to. So either way it is you will always end up with Dc The right way and lights work either way

    • @kinkong1961
      @kinkong1961 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      could not of said it better myself well said.

  • @Badgersize
    @Badgersize 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good tutorial, probably be a VERY long time before i do this to any of my rolling stock! could it be possible to wire the lights up to a DCC chip so they could be turned on and off without taking them off the track?

  • @2KXMKR
    @2KXMKR 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great little walk through this. I only have a very basic understanding of electrics and even I found this really easy to follow, thanks. Now just to translate it all in to N gauge :(

  • @steveripley1220
    @steveripley1220 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi my partner and I have been watching your videos as we are new starters to model trains and have found them really informative and helpful but we have a question regarding fitting kadee couplers to hornby freight wagons if you could help we would be very great full

  • @ferriesdover
    @ferriesdover 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done, again.........!!

  • @MattyMonk
    @MattyMonk 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic video as always. Tempted to to detail inside the coaches now? paint the seats and floors?

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get the stripboard from rapid electronics. It's available in various sizes and is quite cheap.

  • @mickking7312
    @mickking7312 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    a very informative and useful video

  • @foorcscale
    @foorcscale 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good, thank you.

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can if you add a dcc decoder to each coach. The lights stay on in mine.

  • @MrMagandy
    @MrMagandy 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for you great ideas very useful. Could you tell me the values of the capacitor and rectifier please.
    Thanks
    Andy