WHY Chameleon Didn't Summon MASTER OOGWAY in KUNG FU PANDA 4...

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  • Why Chameleon Didn't Summon MASTER OOGWAY in Kung Fu Panda 4? Well, there could be a few reasons for that, but let's dive into the most obvious one. It's likely that the Chameleon didn't summon him because Oogway would have been too powerful for her to control. He could have easily defeated the Chameleon once he returned to the mortal world. Another possibility is that most of the individuals the Chameleon took from the spirit realm were criminals. Therefore, she might have wanted to be the ultimate villain for Po by stealing kung fu from villains and not heroes. And here's another possibility: Maybe Chameleon didn't even know who Oogway was. I mean, the city they were in didn't even know who Po was. They were clueless about the Furious Five, too. But that pangolin-looking dude did know about Master Shifu, which was kinda strange. Maybe Shifu was a bit of a globetrotter back in the day.
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  • @mugetsu8580
    @mugetsu8580 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +989

    By your logic that would mean she knew about General Kai. And we saw that even in the Valley of Peace no one knew him. At all

    • @beast266
      @beast266 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      She knew General Kai

    • @Mommy-kima
      @Mommy-kima 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My brain thought why didnt she summon Mahoraga from JJK since the thumbnail is split💀

    • @Retr0Bunn113
      @Retr0Bunn113 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      She most likely did her research and stumbled across legends of General Kai and Oogway serving together.

    • @aleanddragonITA
      @aleanddragonITA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Or maybe she heard about that time an Army of Jade-People rampaged on the Valley of Peace

    • @sabertoothno34
      @sabertoothno34 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      And if she did do her research on Kai... surely she would know about Lord Shen having no skills in kung fu (Not saying he was weak) ... He was very cunning and intelligent, using his gifted feathers to his advantage as a shield or hiding knives within them.
      (Spoiler, even tho anyone who hasn't watch the movie shouldn't be reading comments about it anyways)
      And this doesn't even mention her reasoning for stealing all of it. Bo hoo "Im too small, to learn kung fu" Miss mama... you're DAUGHTER knows kung fu... MANTIS one of the furious five is the size of an action figure... SNAKE HAS NO LEGS and still learned kung fu. There is even a master flipping CHICKEN... SHIFU is a red panda pushing 50 and knows kung fu... what do you MEAN you're too small?

  • @michaelmahabir213
    @michaelmahabir213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13101

    Oogway would've stopped her without even trying.

    • @MightyContent6
      @MightyContent6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +321

      As much as I want to talk about how she can just shoot her tongue out as he is descending, after seeing Legends of Awesomness and scaling Oogway above Po, or equal, I would say that is absolutely true!

    • @GODS_PERFECT_IDEOT
      @GODS_PERFECT_IDEOT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +243

      Oogway could easily dodge the tongue and used the paralyzing touch points as he did with tai lung then defeated the rest of the goons

    • @yissibiiyte
      @yissibiiyte 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@GODS_PERFECT_IDEOTevery single one of the masters she "absorbed" should have been able to dodge her. Plenty of them have been seen dodging ARROWS and projectiles, but a stupid tongue gets them?

    • @Kyojuiro
      @Kyojuiro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

      Oogway straight up going to realize that someone is pulling him to mortal world

    • @mohammadnazmulalamnahid6867
      @mohammadnazmulalamnahid6867 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

      Oogway isn't just someone...
      He is a true secret ingredient with 5000 years of knowledge and war skills with ultimate inner peace

  • @BaileyRichards-o7b
    @BaileyRichards-o7b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If you listened to the trailer she said she wanted all the master villains.

  • @sammyt7981
    @sammyt7981 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She only summoned master villains

  • @ttusurper4125
    @ttusurper4125 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which is probably why she didn't try to steal POS power because his chi was too much for even general kai

  • @rorydrakon4743
    @rorydrakon4743 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No, she didn't take the kung fu from Villains, because we see Master Rhino from Gongmen and others that are not criminal.

  • @Theverachic
    @Theverachic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Answer: PLOTHOLE

  • @StrikeCrossoverNexus
    @StrikeCrossoverNexus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oogway was just...embarrassed...embarrassed in EVERYONE in this disgrace of a movie.
    Shifu telling po too give up being the dragon warrior and being the spiritual leader which doesnt make sence WHEN OOGWAY GOT TOO CHOSE HIS TIME!
    He was humilated by tailung, shen and kais stupidity in this movie and didnt want too help them
    and he refused to even be in the same room as the chameleon for her CAP backstory.
    And he didnt even want too help Po for choisng that stupid fox instead of a member of the furious 5.
    Oogway refused too be in this movie. Thats why he didnt come nomatter how many times She called him he literally said
    "go away im not home!" too chameleon Po and everyone because of how stupid, watered down and down right ridiculous everyone was in this peice of crap movie!

  • @HimekoIzayoi
    @HimekoIzayoi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9483

    Lol at Shen and Kai just pouting in their cages without saying a word, as if they were little kids put in timeout. This movie did the past villains so dirty.

    • @tobsonasanya4765
      @tobsonasanya4765 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

      I mean they aren't strong so it makes sense

    • @someperson3688
      @someperson3688 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +958

      ​@@tobsonasanya4765you should rewatch the whole kung fu panda trilogy cuz no way you said theyre "weak,,

    • @Glatzfrosch1236
      @Glatzfrosch1236 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

      ​@@someperson3688they aren't strong after they got their power stolen

    • @tobsonasanya4765
      @tobsonasanya4765 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +278

      ​@@someperson3688imean shen ain't that strong and kai has clearly lost his power he had in the 3rd film

    • @KaisTheFireWarrior
      @KaisTheFireWarrior 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +245

      They didn't pay the voice actors

  • @captainmd3
    @captainmd3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6976

    Oogway: "So you have stolen the staff of wisdom, it's a shame.......I have a bigger one"

    • @jayshree1323
      @jayshree1323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +222

      OHHHH!!!!!

    • @Rover50
      @Rover50 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +314

      Without context it sounds very wrong 💀

    • @cooldeep1798
      @cooldeep1798 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

      I mean tortoise shafts.... 💀

    • @Arcticafoxis
      @Arcticafoxis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@Rover50fr

    • @lukhw1n657
      @lukhw1n657 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      *starts removing his loincloth* 💀

  • @JonesBasley
    @JonesBasley 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3100

    There's another possible reason: The writers would have to put in effort to Oogway's character if he was in the film.

    • @pedroantonio1251
      @pedroantonio1251 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +172

      Indeed, Kung Fu Panda 4 had little effort :I it was just made to get easy money

    • @JonesBasley
      @JonesBasley 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      @@pedroantonio1251 I haven't seen so much nothing from a movie since Shrek The Third.

    • @MelonDemon32
      @MelonDemon32 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      I feel like I am the only person in the world who actually liked Kung fu panda 4 lol

    • @ZipTheSilliest
      @ZipTheSilliest 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@MelonDemon32I liked it too lol

    • @boslyporshy6553
      @boslyporshy6553 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@MelonDemon32By itself its a fair movie that matches the times.

  • @brandan9883
    @brandan9883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2409

    Another theory is that ogway was in a higher place in the spirit realm potentially where she couldn't get to him

    • @joimumu
      @joimumu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

      I was thinking the same thing she might only be able get neutral or low morale spirits because they haven’t finished the afterlife process

    • @xxmension04xx47
      @xxmension04xx47 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      could relate to the staff wielders own chi...Po could be the only one currently who can visit Oogway

    • @richardperaza5083
      @richardperaza5083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I got another theory they just that Oogway wouldn’t fit in the movie for how not serious the film was and were like nah we need to be more sillier

    • @ThatdudeIsgonnabecomeahe-yp2ju
      @ThatdudeIsgonnabecomeahe-yp2ju 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Oogway just doesn’t like being in bad movies, that’s all it is

    • @miguelramos9274
      @miguelramos9274 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I can’t leave I live here” in the movie we’re ogway fight Kai in the spirit realm after he absorbed every master there meaning no niqqa there are no other stages of spirit real

  • @dreallen2057
    @dreallen2057 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +438

    I'd like to think she tried, but every time she did, oogway just ignored her and just went back to meditating 😂

    • @ŻurekPL-x8v
      @ŻurekPL-x8v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂😂😂😂

    • @EC2421Mir
      @EC2421Mir 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Inner peace 😊

    • @JonathanJoel-e8m
      @JonathanJoel-e8m หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      h

  • @adreamworksemployee
    @adreamworksemployee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +313

    So….people don’t know about the guy who invented Kung fu 💀

    • @OwO377
      @OwO377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Guess some nation didn't know that.

    • @adreamworksemployee
      @adreamworksemployee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@OwO377 dat crazy

    • @Aleksandr_Skrjabin
      @Aleksandr_Skrjabin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Imagine some guy doing the most random moves, and it being useful, and he told the people like telling mom to goddamn look at him when he is going down the slide like: Look what I can do!

    • @jacky79322
      @jacky79322 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      thats alot of history as well. People don't know where a lot of stuff originated from, and just go off what other people say instead of what actually happened.

  • @TENEBRIS_ORIGINAL
    @TENEBRIS_ORIGINAL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +948

    It can’t be that she didn’t know who Oogway is, at least because she dreamed of learning Kung fu and it is impossible her to not know about Oogway, cuz he literally created Kung fu.

    • @aliyusubov1775
      @aliyusubov1775 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      She could have learned about kung fu later on from stranded traveller who learned it through generations. Stricter masters who does think that size matter. Not everyone was Oogway after all.

    • @AH-is5yg
      @AH-is5yg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I agree, she didn't know who Oogway was. If she had met him years ago, she probably wouldn't have become evil.

    • @NoobTheNewt
      @NoobTheNewt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      The defense “she doesn’t know who Oogway is” is actually so stupid. If she doesn’t know who Oogway is, how does she know who Kai is? Oogway literally left Kais memory in the dust. If she knows who Kai is, she can’t not know who Oogway is

    • @aliyusubov1775
      @aliyusubov1775 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@NoobTheNewt she could have learned about Kai and Oogway way after her descent into sorcery. And even then she would still probably think they would not accept someone like her due to rooted beliefs. Plus, Kai did quite ruckus after reviving, she could have heard tales of that, not the older ones with Oogway.

    • @TENEBRIS_ORIGINAL
      @TENEBRIS_ORIGINAL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what I'm talking about​@@NoobTheNewt

  • @ultimazilla9814
    @ultimazilla9814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    I like how the spirit realm is basically the afterlife, meaning the Wuxi finger hold is just an instant kill basically.

  • @PlayByEarPianist
    @PlayByEarPianist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

    “My time has come… And so has yours…”
    ~oogway

    • @ThatdudeIsgonnabecomeahe-yp2ju
      @ThatdudeIsgonnabecomeahe-yp2ju 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Alternative version:
      “It’s time for me to *come* … And so is yours”
      ~Oogway

    • @Chilldudenocap
      @Chilldudenocap 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Oogway : My time has come.. and so is yours, so lets come together....

    • @CommonPainW
      @CommonPainW 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that a dmc4 reference "the time has come and so have I"

    • @TheOriginalLurker
      @TheOriginalLurker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Chilldudenocap
      “So you have stolen the staff ……….. I have a bigger one :)”
      ~ Oogway

  • @calebprescott440
    @calebprescott440 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +829

    Image tai lung taking the chameleon to the spirit realm was his biggest mistake

    • @maxthedoge6927
      @maxthedoge6927 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      They played the chameleon's tongue as a jumping rope

    • @johnycraft7665
      @johnycraft7665 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@maxthedoge6927how tho? I mean with who they were playing? Spirit realm must be really fun

    • @itnotgameboy
      @itnotgameboy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@johnycraft7665I hope she got a strong tongue cause they going to use it for exercise

    • @kgrsentertainmentchannel7092
      @kgrsentertainmentchannel7092 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Kung fu Panda 5:- Return of the Chameleon......(maybe)

    • @calebprescott440
      @calebprescott440 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kgrsentertainmentchannel7092or 6 maybe

  • @hughbryant898
    @hughbryant898 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +298

    Oogway's spirit reached highest level of tranquility in the spirit realm through meditation that his presence blended as almost non-existent for chameleon to be detected. In Kung Fu Panda 3, he already endorse everything to Po.

  • @finlandguy427
    @finlandguy427 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    Oogway: Sorry lady but ain't gonna be hang around on the mortal realm ever again, let me have my peace 🐢🤚❌

  • @isaiahbar9324
    @isaiahbar9324 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    It was probably because the rest of the people wanted to leave the spirit realm but not oogway

    • @ONI1013.
      @ONI1013. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      If so, then why were they all wanting g to return to the Spirit Realm at end of movie?

    • @Y65TK
      @Y65TK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@ONI1013.I think they realized they don’t have a place in the mortal realm, that’s just my guess though

    • @Antipowerscaling
      @Antipowerscaling 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@Y65TKnha the story was rush if only Gary & jj Johnson was there the directors would make Kai and shen fight

  • @ahbho8708
    @ahbho8708 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +216

    Finally someone talked about the low interest of Kung fu in Jupiter city,THIS IS WHY SHE FELT BETRAYED BY THE KUNG FU FOR BEING TOO SMAL,NO ONE KNOW MANTIS

    • @AnujChatterjee-q5b
      @AnujChatterjee-q5b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Yeah. Maybe she knew about Oogway but it's likely none of the kung fu masters of Juniper City knew Mantis or any of the Five. So they rejected because of her small size as well as her status as a lowly reptilian runt.

    • @ahbho8708
      @ahbho8708 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AnujChatterjee-q5b I love you,thanks God you have a brain

    • @NoobTheNewt
      @NoobTheNewt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      But they know Shifu, and Shifus tiny, so that argument still makes no sense

    • @ahbho8708
      @ahbho8708 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@NoobTheNewt they know shifu,not how he looks

    • @AnujChatterjee-q5b
      @AnujChatterjee-q5b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ahbho8708 Plus it seems like only the den old thieves knew about Shifu. Plus Chameleon looks pretty elderly so Mantis and the five wer probably just younglings when she was rejected

  • @ultimazilla9814
    @ultimazilla9814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I have a problem with the movie. Kai was already a spirit warrior, meaning already dead. Then he died as a spirit warrior, meaning he should be dead for good. SO THEN HOW IS HE BACK IN THE SPIRIT REALM

    • @markaeresmanlangit9727
      @markaeresmanlangit9727 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Far as I know some Chinese characters basically get 4 stages of immortality and afterlife anyways so accurate lol

    • @ultimazilla9814
      @ultimazilla9814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markaeresmanlangit9727 oh cool.

    • @The-Hazbin-Devil04
      @The-Hazbin-Devil04 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Here's you're answer, the writers didn't think about that, they just wanted to do the bare minimum. Haven't you noticed that KFP4 feels like less effort and care was added to it than the previous movies.

  • @LightningZetton
    @LightningZetton 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Chameleon's monster form reminds me of that scrapped Godzilla movie where godzilla faces a shape shifting monster that has 3 forms and in the final battle the monster would combine all forms into one. sadly this idea was scrapped

    • @MCPerez
      @MCPerez 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait no there was a monster similar to that in Godzilla japanese universe but it doesn't shape shift

    • @Squid-Killer
      @Squid-Killer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You mean Bagan? i think they used him for the Godziban puppet show, but he doesnt have his alternate forms

    • @XTP_X_The_Penguin
      @XTP_X_The_Penguin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Destoroyah.

    • @XTP_X_The_Penguin
      @XTP_X_The_Penguin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@Suggestator dont summon us

    • @XTP_X_The_Penguin
      @XTP_X_The_Penguin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Suggestator your body wont be there to be putten on the grave
      Be careful.

  • @timelineofdawah6628
    @timelineofdawah6628 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    The movie could've ended like Jurassic World fallen kingdom where the villains instead of accepting to go back to the spirit realm, they decide to fight each other or team up to roam and cause trouble in whole China. Terribly wasted opportunity in soo many ways.

    • @oserebright6505
      @oserebright6505 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      And set the movie up for something more special. And who knows where this story could lead to... Basically, endless possibilities.

    • @erikho6936
      @erikho6936 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Three Kingdom Arc for Kungfu Panda

    • @Scaly-tb4ev
      @Scaly-tb4ev 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Just like my fanfiction idea.😊

    • @Skyfish93
      @Skyfish93 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Sadly, I don’t think that would’ve worked. These people from the Spirit Realm spent so much time there, they became Spirit Warriors themselves. And if they stayed too long, the balance of the universe would’ve been disrupted, causing them to slowly whittle away.
      Kind of like how Spiderverse said “If you don’t belong here, you die.”

    • @timelineofdawah6628
      @timelineofdawah6628 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Skyfish93 still better than just standing there being npc's. An alternative idea than would've been to not add Shen or Kai at all cause a part from being npc, they just unalived their characters. I mean not even a single word?!?! I honestly expected an exchange of words between villains and even a fight when the film was announced.

  • @mrkortoschgo1207
    @mrkortoschgo1207 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    She sayed herself ' i will summon all the villains."

  • @TheIceCrypt
    @TheIceCrypt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Dreamworks couldn’t afford the voice actor.

    • @njabulozimu7702
      @njabulozimu7702 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, it's true, which is why the Furious Five didn't have any dialogue. They needed money badly for some reason, that's all this film is, a cash grab.

    • @archieindoorschallis2885
      @archieindoorschallis2885 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@njabulozimu7702very upsetting to see dreamworks best franchise probably go from 2 amazing movies and 1 great movie... To this pathetic cash grab. I mean did no one look at how messy this movie is at all?.

  • @-Grovesy-
    @-Grovesy- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Another reason is Oogway wouldn't WANT to leave the spirit world anyway. A door opening would just be like "Oh, someone's opened a door. I wonder if they'll visit." be ultimately he won't go into it.

  • @galaxygamer1469
    @galaxygamer1469 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Any of those guys the chameleon summon should’ve been able to destroy her, especially Kai of all people. You telling me the dude that managed to beat oogway and steal his chi got no diff by her. That dude would’ve drop kick her into the spirit realm.

    • @drummerboi357
      @drummerboi357 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He didn't have any ki from previouse masters to do it though.

    • @Woah9394exe
      @Woah9394exe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drummerboi357he has the skills to turn her entire army against her by having em turn into jombies. He also has his weapons and he also has his kung fu

    • @EC2421Mir
      @EC2421Mir 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plus his weapons Bro those are hard to use and kai just using it like its a normal tuesday and i am crying again cuz im dissapointed

  • @brandonofthewastes
    @brandonofthewastes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    She was KFP first *unoriginal* villian, someone that Oogway would have no difficulty squashing her like a sadistic bicyclist does on Miami Beach

    • @tobsonasanya4765
      @tobsonasanya4765 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      First??

    • @stownjam
      @stownjam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The first one was general kai bro, the second one is the chameleon

    • @Predated2
      @Predated2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@stownjam how was kai unoriginal? He was the first one to take kung fu masters and made them fight in his behalf, while also being a strong fighter himself. Thats a very original power. Especially since they clearly showed Tai Lung and Shen, but refused to use either of them,
      Kung Fu Panda 4 literally brings back all past villains, and uses kung fu masters to fight against Po. That is literally a rehashed plotline from KFP 3 and rehashed the villains.
      And while I think Chameleon could have been really cool, it would have been amazing if she didnt need to change her form to use the techniques, and that she just uses her transformations to cause chaos. It would also have been cool that her character arc would literally be that she wanted to be the most famous kung fu fighter, but since she couldnt get better through Oogway, she decided to oppose ALL kung fu fighters instead. Only for Po to embrace his teacher role and show her a new path.

    • @stownjam
      @stownjam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@Predated2​ by unoriginal, i mean uninteresting in terms of story
      Tai Lung became outraged due to being trained for years, yet getting denied what his master set him up for. Painfully struggling to get to the top, putting his blood, sweat, and tears into his training, as shifu kept filling his head that he would become the dragon warrior. But as soon as Oogway said otherwise, shifu did absolutely nothing(not even conforting him or offering him a happy medium).
      Lord Shen was the best villain in my opinion. Not only did he have a pretty solid background, but he also had ties to Po in ways where it affected him greatly. He thought his parents hated him, because in his eyes, "why would you have to ask a fortune teller about what your son will become when he didn't do anything wrong in the first place?" Obviously it was because Lord Shen was exhibiting bad behaviors, like making gun powder into a weapon, but he didn't see that as bad, he was simply innovating. So, after seeing what his parents did and that he would be defeated by a warrior of black and white, he reacted and went for the pandas, thinking he killed them all. Returning home proud, as his parents just looked at him in shameful regret, so they banished him. Lord Shen thought he was betrayed by his parents for no good reason, he thought he was unloved and unwanted, when it wasn't the case. Whats better is that, him and Po finally meet and Po becomes very distressed due too all the damage Lord Shen had inflicted onto him.
      Now for Kai, his story doesn't really add up. He traveled with Oogway and was loyal to him, to the point that he traveled for days carrying him to a place where he could be healed. Oogway was healed but for some reason out of the blue Kai wanted more power? So he tried to steal it before being banished to the spiritual realm by Oogway. That came out of nowhere. Sure he wanted more power, but why? And why now? Oogway never mentioned that he acted strangly or that he wanted more, it just came out of the blue. Not only that but not even the movie takes him seriously, so its hard for the audience to do the same when they portray him as a joke of a villain(and there is a way to do silly villains correctly, look at spot form across the spider verse).
      The Chameleon had so much potential, but of course it was wasted. Her motive is terrible. Instead of giving her a great motive, the writers just take the lazy route and say "oh its cuz she's small" ignoring that mantis exists. "Oh but maybe she didn't know about mantis, or any master that would train her" it doesn't matter because they never made it clear in the story if she knew about him, shifu, and Oogway, or not. It feels very confusing. They shouldn't have even gone that route at all. A better back story is her learning kung-fu and becoming a master, but also finding a way to be more powerful via sorcery, but her master rejecting her because it's forbidden, and stripping her of her title of kung-fu master because of it. That is way better than "i got rejected by a few kung-fu masters :("
      It's not about the desing, or the concept of the character thats unoriginal, it's their motives and backgrounds that make them unoriginal and uninteresting.
      (Also mb, i didn't realize I went on a long tangent lol)

    • @tyranidswarmlord9722
      @tyranidswarmlord9722 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stownjam Kai's main 'sin' is that he came after the Masterpiece that is Lord Shen.
      Tai Lung is a better villain than Kai, and Tai Lung alone is MVP Hall of Fame GOAT material himself, let alone having to followup after Lord Shen who is the GOAT of GOATs.
      Anyone would seem unoriginal compared to the first two.
      Outside of having to contend with two of the best baddies Dreamworks has ever cooked, Kai is a good villain. Decent at the worst.
      Significantly better than the Chameleonliteralwho.

  • @aninkanamator
    @aninkanamator 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    But, she LITERALLY said that “I will take the kung fu of all master villains before me”

    • @Harbin_07
      @Harbin_07 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oogway was once a villain and he literally invented Kung Fu but I personally like to think chameleon tried summoning him but Oogway didn't even bother to come.

    • @Thatechoissoannoying
      @Thatechoissoannoying 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Harbin_07like “po? You ain’t po, I ain’t doing sh-“

  • @Husain20119
    @Husain20119 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Oogway oneshotted tai lung you think he can't take out this short lizard

  • @fearfulclan2007
    @fearfulclan2007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    It was all of Po's past villains

  • @X_XD
    @X_XD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    “Remember disciples,we may both be reptiles,but at least I have protection against crazy women.”
    -Master Oogway,probably

  • @NotSoCalmWeather
    @NotSoCalmWeather 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I like to imagine that she did summon him but he just said "nah" and went back in the sprit realm

  • @fallen9997
    @fallen9997 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Let's be real, Kai would destroy Chameleon in this movie if not for her plot armor.

    • @skylord1846
      @skylord1846 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True.

    • @FatallyAttractive
      @FatallyAttractive 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kai can take her chi or lord shen can easily decapitate her.

  • @YourLordAndSaviorPana
    @YourLordAndSaviorPana 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I do believe the first theory hits the best.
    The second theory felt like a maybe, although it is hinted that Oogway actually was as criminal as Kai is, with Oogway turning good.
    And the third theory would exclude the third movie, as its shown how people knew Oogway far more than Kai.

  • @DaCarlos3210
    @DaCarlos3210 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "If In KFP4 I Don't Get Summoned, I Shall Turn You Into Ramen"
    -Master Oogway

  • @MJ-eu1qe
    @MJ-eu1qe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's impossible not to know oogway if she knows Kai, bruh 💀

  • @armandovasquez3854
    @armandovasquez3854 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This movie was disappointing :/

  • @devilpupbear09
    @devilpupbear09 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wait, doesn't Tai Lung come from the Valley of Peace? If she knew that then she definitely knew who lived there (Oogway, Shifu)

  • @HORRORINFINITE
    @HORRORINFINITE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Or they just couldn’t pay for the voice actor, that’s probably it

  • @Cloofinder
    @Cloofinder 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Oogway would have stopped her without lifting a finger. Tbh I'm disappointed that that Oogway was downplayed and nerfed so bad

    • @tobsonasanya4765
      @tobsonasanya4765 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He wasn't

    • @skylord1846
      @skylord1846 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      What are you talking about? He wasn’t even in Kung Fu Panda 4.

    • @SiNKarnage
      @SiNKarnage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Downplayed and nerfed how? The only time we could gauge his fighting prowess was in his brawl with Kai and he gave his all fighting an amped up version of his brother from another mother who couldnt be defeated by Mortal means.

  • @imnotkaiser
    @imnotkaiser 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Oogway is in the innerpeace section of the spirit realm, chameleon couldn’t summon him if she wanted too

  • @maeve9084
    @maeve9084 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    She forgot about the wolf boss

  • @browniesarecool4259
    @browniesarecool4259 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Well it could be that it would’ve influenced or it could’ve made her moral changes depending on the energy I wasn’t paying the best attention to the movie but she got darker and darker as the movie progressed and as she took the power of more villains so taking some from hero’s would’ve made her a better person maybe?

  • @ghostviper8906
    @ghostviper8906 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To be technical she did summon heroes as she used the forms of:
    Master Elephant
    Master Boar
    Master Wolf
    Master Bull
    Master Osprey
    Master Cobra
    Master Scorpion

  • @jothishprabu8
    @jothishprabu8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This movie was shit

    • @LOS-Late
      @LOS-Late 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nah It wasnt bad it just lacked The charecters

    • @fearfulclan2007
      @fearfulclan2007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah it was amazing and it's the best movie in the franchise. Also, we're getting 2 more movies

    • @manugaming2157
      @manugaming2157 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I beg to differ

    • @NoobTheNewt
      @NoobTheNewt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s an understatement, it’s so disrespectful to the previous 3 movies. I’m not gonna bring in the F5, but I’m gonna bring in the character assassination of everyone else.
      In KFP2, we saw Li as a person who would defend his family, we saw him wound the wolf leader’s eye. In KFP3, we saw him face off against jade shifu. In KFP4, he got scared by a boar???
      In KFP2, we saw Shen as someone who hated Po so much he’d let himself die instead of accepting Po defeated him. In KFP4 somehow he now respects Po???
      In KFP, we saw Tai Lung as someone who was filled with rage of being rejected the title of dragon warrior, but in KFP4 he now cracks lots of jokes and quips a lot.
      In KFP3, Kai spent 500 years gathering the chi of every Kung Fu Master in the spirit realm to defeat Oogway and get out, and you’re telling me that he for some unknown reason that God doesn’t even know, went back to the spirit realm when he had a chance of escaping?
      I won’t even mention shifu cause he was in this movie for the sole purpose of being there.
      This movie was made by people who don’t even know Kung Fu Panda, and the people who did know KFP and worked on it either left and refused to return, or they got ignored by the director and everyone else

    • @skylord1846
      @skylord1846 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I respectfully Disagree. I thought it was an enjoyable movie, but it’s definitely nowhere near the level of the first 2 movies.

  • @eleazarloyo8473
    @eleazarloyo8473 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My guess is that she probably was planning to take Oogway, eventually, but got interrupted by Po.

  • @64jay4
    @64jay4 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chameleon: All the master VILLIANS
    This dude: why master oogway wasn’t there

  • @brotherplayz8200
    @brotherplayz8200 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She literally said she wanted the kung fu of every master villain po faced🤦‍♂️

  • @samueljohnkennethrollno3528
    @samueljohnkennethrollno3528 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Y'know, the thing is, one of the many letdowns for this movie was Chameleons origins. In the 3rd movie, Oogway and Kai were conquerors. So I thought she was a victim of their conquests or at least the hatred the survivors at that time were taught to and brainwashed her to become this monster hellbent on revenge. So instead of actually trying to go to kung fu teachers, she would be taught sorcery passed down from her vengeful ancestors.
    So during the 3 prior movies, she creates this artificial staff that allows her to enter the spirit realm. I would like to think that the scene where she gets Tai Lung outta there to steal his kung fu is what actually plays out instead of what we got. Everytime it cuts to the Chameleon, we see how she beats Shen and then her fight with Kai is longer and more personal due to the generational trauma she was brainwashed into.
    Her true goal is this. Steal the kung fu of every master; including Po's, then face Oogway in the spirit realm. How it's gonna get implemented in this. I tell stories, not write them

    • @EC2421Mir
      @EC2421Mir 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Disney needs to hire u like this would have been better

  • @Adelicousbottleosyrup
    @Adelicousbottleosyrup 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oogway could just boop her into the spirit realm with zero effort tbh

  • @keybladegames_real
    @keybladegames_real 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    not all of them were villains. some were kung fu masters

  • @Dankyard
    @Dankyard 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We need a movie of master shifu

  • @Dawnbroken001
    @Dawnbroken001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Because Oogway got banned 💀

  • @kaicraft275
    @kaicraft275 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That would’ve been a greater plot trying to steal oogway power and ruling all of china with that power.

  • @ninjacat_141
    @ninjacat_141 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People from juniper city don't know Oogway then why they know Shifu?

  • @franklinforest888
    @franklinforest888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    She literally said she wanted the kung fu from villians, she said it herself

  • @benjaminlim3936
    @benjaminlim3936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chameleon is using Master Oogway's staff. He prolly had a failsafe on that staff so it couldn't summon him. :-D

  • @owlomar2007
    @owlomar2007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Well that explains why she was rejected by everyone for being small , nobody even knows shifu or mantis or any of the masters in China

  • @Failsafe99
    @Failsafe99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If she knew of Tai Lung and Shifu, she knew of Oogway. And we all know Oogway would have clapped her before she even got a chance to do shit. However, and this is a very likely possibility, Oogway possibly would have Allowed Chameleon to take his Kung Fu, as he believes in Po, and would want to test him and see just how far hes come in his training. And if that belief fell through, he still could have broken out and clapped. If im not mistaken, she didnt take their actual Kung Fu, she just took the techniques they were best known for, as well as their general knowledge of fighting. Cause i mean, Po still fought her even after she took his Kung Fu.
    So in summary, Oogway would have indeed clapped, but probably would have allowed her to take his Kung Fu because he knew Po would win.

  • @kidartist6
    @kidartist6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the only bad Kung Fu panda movie
    They made legendary villains like worthless

  • @this...isabucket.6665
    @this...isabucket.6665 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the image of Oogway bodying the chameleon, like it's not even close. Bro gets summoned and does a fkin no-hit run on that lizard's ass

  • @snookerdooker471
    @snookerdooker471 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well oogway would just beat the crap out of her and take the staff he gave to Po back to give to po via spirit world mail lol

  • @lizanordin5894
    @lizanordin5894 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also the chamelon didnt summon the stingray po fought before

  • @TriggerHappySLO
    @TriggerHappySLO 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like I saw oogway in that movie somewhere in one of the cadges or she said oogway when she was listing their names to summon them through the portal. She also didn’t just take the kung fu of criminals she took the kung fu of honorable masters as well.

  • @jayddenburgos
    @jayddenburgos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Then how does she know about kai. Kai captures oogway and with all the power with all kung fu fighters that she stole. She may be able to beat oogway.

  • @CL0THErr
    @CL0THErr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MasterOogway: Hehe Chamelon 🐢

  • @vyke_24
    @vyke_24 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She simply didn't want to get Toji'ed.

  • @asyllasoletaprivadosoleta3136
    @asyllasoletaprivadosoleta3136 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oogway:whoever holds this stick is gay
    Chameleon:WTF-

  • @shenders1447
    @shenders1447 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The reason is it’s because Oogway was to old to be in the mortal realm

  • @floofikite6524
    @floofikite6524 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oogway would've one-shotted the chameleon. That's why she didn't bring him back.

  • @muhammadhashirrehman6207
    @muhammadhashirrehman6207 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let's just all agree that Kung Fu Panda 4 was never made 👍

  • @James.Oakleaf
    @James.Oakleaf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Probably because she only summoned the villains

  • @MatMag-k9q
    @MatMag-k9q 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Noah's Ark (2007) Panthy

  • @phantom_woods
    @phantom_woods 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Maybe she wanted to he the ultimate villian" pfft- well CLEARLY that didn't work out now did it- 😂

  • @onniandrew3531
    @onniandrew3531 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oogway win The chameleon lose The fight 😎🤩

  • @haniedahoney
    @haniedahoney 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought this new chameleon villain would be the coolest of the previous three, etc.. (or at least so) and if that's true, then I really hope, Dreamworks won't mess up this franchise, like Disney/Pixar did with Toy Story..
    But, it turned out to be very, very disappointing. I mean, the design of the villain is really freaking cool. And the new character, Zhen's characteristics too, tho she isn't my favorite (for no reason).. but gosh.. the villain's background and reasons to become evil are really, really, lame.. it's just.. hmmm...
    And come on, if they weren't going to let the two previous villains talk, then why did they keep them in the movie? And why are the five characters who are supposed to be the mascots of this franchise, are not included and only appear at the end of the film? Are they just additional characters or backup characters, in case something doesn't go according to the plot? Attempting to add a plot twist or something?? It doesn't make any sense..

  • @srpandmelonthegame6836
    @srpandmelonthegame6836 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Or oogway just doesn't wanna go, i mean the villains walked through the thing and besides he's already chilling

  • @francissharma1798
    @francissharma1798 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the kung fu panda 4 was funny, lol

  • @Dracogame
    @Dracogame 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The main reason is that this movie is shit and the writers couldn’t care less.

  • @Asher-mw3zo
    @Asher-mw3zo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He got cancelled so she couldn’t summon him

  • @reddemon7680
    @reddemon7680 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude she even Said that she only Take villains

  • @The_ASMR_Listener
    @The_ASMR_Listener 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The reason is because the writing was awful

  • @JaxonBellve
    @JaxonBellve 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    another possibily: Oogway too slow.

  • @skylord1846
    @skylord1846 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Probably a good thing Chameleon didn’t end up stealing his Kung Fu, cause if she did, Po and Zhen would’ve been screwed.

    • @Harbin_07
      @Harbin_07 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oogway's Kung Fu would probably just ascend her to spirit realm and also don't forget; Oogway has a better staff

    • @skylord1846
      @skylord1846 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Harbin_07 True.

  • @SniccSnacks
    @SniccSnacks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Or, the director didn't let the writers actually write something good, so they had to scratch the floor with their creativity

  • @krystalcheetah
    @krystalcheetah 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She said villians. Oogway is not a villian

  • @Meirdom
    @Meirdom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe he's alive!

  • @devonblackwell7405
    @devonblackwell7405 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Or maybe this movie is just that bad

  • @girtkaz
    @girtkaz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kungfo panda 4???!!!!

  • @littleduck1967
    @littleduck1967 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Because this movie is a huge cringe

  • @kgrsentertainmentchannel7092
    @kgrsentertainmentchannel7092 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Master rhino is not a villain wtf

  • @ninjachihuahua4843
    @ninjachihuahua4843 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Simple. No budget

  • @radhikaalmeida3436
    @radhikaalmeida3436 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    චමේ්ලෙඔන් චාපචේර්ඩ් අල්ල විල්ලන්ස් නමේ අල්ල ඔෆ් tem

  • @raily9362
    @raily9362 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's kinda cool that Chameleon has the same dreams as Po once had...

  • @jacobigray4073
    @jacobigray4073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oogway would use talk no jutsu while dodging her attacks bringing her to her senses

  • @srivasthav3272
    @srivasthav3272 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remember the words oogway said in kungfu panda 3 "Take this. I got a bigger one"

  • @Void_Productionz
    @Void_Productionz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kai got soooo nerfed 💀