This was another Mormon Story where solidarity stood out to me. Gary and Ernie went through so many painful/oppressive experiences because of a conservative religious culture that said their sexuality was invalid. Yet they both drew attention to what that same culture, with the homophobia and patriarchal purity culture, does to women as well. All our struggles are interconnected. I'm so glad these two wonderful guys found each other and are having so much joy in their lives now!
the love that radiates off of these two is so wonderful. I know stories about young mormons are important, but I love hearing from people who've been together for decades and are still fully infatuated with their partners like this.
Truly inspirational. I’ve been with my partner for 11 years now and we’re only 30 years old. This makes me even more excited for our future. I feel extremely grateful every single day to have someone who is so incredible and we mesh so well together. It’s wonderful to see two people thriving in a partnership. There is a peacefulness to their relationship. Made me emotional to watch the beauty of it all.
Gary and Ernie, thank you for your beautiful story! You guys are the example of love and compassion. I learned so much from you two. I’m also an Ex-Mormon for about three years now. I’m still working really hard to find myself and meanings after lost much of what I identified myself with. Fortunately, mindfulness practice became a big part of my life these days. Understanding and compassion (especially towards myself) help me to let go of negative experiences and move forward. I find more and more joy and peace each day. May you be well and have continuous joy and happiness!
What I see and here is two people who did everything that they could possibly imagine to be faithful to Mormonism even after so much let down from EVERYONE and EVERYTHING they still are positive. It breaks my heart that they were both put through so so much. I feel they are so inspirational. My 19 year old daughter is gay and our entire family accepts her and her partner. I’m so grateful that things have gotten a little easier for people like her and them as well. I’ve never met a gay person that wasn’t amazing. I don’t understand why people can’t look as well as treat gay people exactly the same as straight people. It blows my mind that any gay person or person of color would be treated different. At this point it’s just straight ignorance on the part of the people that go out their way to be ugly. I do know that I will do everything in my power to make sure my daughter feels loved.
Thank you so much! Gary and Ernie you are such loving humans, you are my absolute favorite people on Mormon Stories. You are highly educated, yet extremely intelligent especially emotionally intelligent. I feel like I can’t get enough of Ernie and Gary. I ended the episode feeling very hopeful and light. Thank you for this episode! I would love to hear how others are thriving in such a joyous way. ❤️❤️
Thanks so much Gary and Ernie for sharing your experiences and relationship. What a beautiful story. As you talked and I saw how beautiful your relationship is, the tears came at the pain of getting to where you are now. It shouldn't be that hard. I'm sad that society is the way it is...mormon church especially. So so happy for the two of you! You two are quite special!
These guys are so great. Their empathy and concern is so obvious and their desire to both give 100% is inspiring. I don't know if Gary will see this but I have stomach issues and autoimmune inflammatory pain and about 4 years ago I started a drug not at all meant for autoimmune but that is making life better for thousands of people. I know he's an intellectual and thought I'd mention Low Dose Naltrexone (not the dose used to treat addiction which is about 100mg a day, but low dose, between 4 and 10mg a day.) I've never been into alternative therapies but I joined a group and saw it changing lives. It's the best medication I've tried in 30 years of autoimmune. Maybe if you could just let him know. Maybe it could help. And if he wants more info, let me know. I'd be happy to talk.
Such an enriched thorough perspective of other peoples experience in the same community I grew up in. That is the gift of Mormon Stories. Better understanding outside ourselves.
I enjoyed Ernie and Gary’s stories SO much! Their openness about about their religious deconstruction was painful to hear, but ultimately inspiring. And their joyful relationship is what so many of us aspire to. I wish I could be friends with them in real life 😊
Listening to this interview made me so happy! Such a wonderful loving energy! 🤗 All the best from a listener (and a bit of a family researcher) in Finland. 😄
Before I joined the church at 18 years old, 1973, I was agnostic/atheist. The church, for me, was a whole package....joseph smith, god, jesus. When I left, the package was gone. I'm back to agnostic/atheist and I have never been happier. I don't need to have a belief in anything religious to be happy. I am not sure some people can understand that.
What a beautiful story, though heartbreaking all these two experienced that tried to define them is such a negative & predatory way. What an inspiration Ernie & Gary are & am grateful they chose to be so vulnerable & share their Mormon stories & their love story. Love wins.❤️
Loved the video and these two great and intelligent men. I don't even know why I'm so interested in these Mormon stories as my life has never been touched by religion at all (which is a common experience in East Germany) and I always wonder how intelligent people can hold strong religious beliefs. This video made me aware that I consider these two more intelligent than other ex-mormons because they've become completely secular instead of trying to hold on to "crutches" like still believing in God. It's probably not a very nice and tolerant view, and most definitely not accurate, but it's interesting how my culture and community has indirectly instilled this view in me. For me, reading the Bible has the same measure of truth and importance as reading about Buddhism or reading the Lord of the Rings. My life and education has always focused on science, philosophy and self-determination that particularly these lifestyles in high demand religions baffle me and make me curious likewise. On a completely unrelated topic: I love Margi's hair and hairstyle! I'm 35 and have a similar amount of gray hair in the front. I've been dying it for about ten years (which is when I started going gray), but I'm so frustrated with it because I feel like I should be less vain and I'm generally a natural person who doesn't wear any make-up. Seeing Margi proudly rocking that beautiful hairstyle over the last few videos I watched, is kind of empowering and I think I'm going to go for it as well.
I heard you and felt your genuine love and joy of finding each other. I am wondering about the difference in feeling love, and feeling the Holy Ghost? How is the tingle, warm heart associated with the Holy Ghost not a guide but your feelings of love and affection authentic and worthy of making big decisions for life i.e. choosing your life partner. I am sincerely seeking your thoughts, you seem to now dismiss the “tingles” and yet honor your heart and feelings of love.
Honestly, I think you guys are brave.. Everyone deserves to follow their own north star..!! All the very best two both of you..!! (BTW JS introduced polygamy and plagiarized the BOM back in the DARK AGES..)
Did Mormon Stories explore the claim that Joseph Smith had a narcissistic personality disorder or even a malignant narcissist personality disorder? Besides his boundless "marriages" to women and girls, it also explains him running for president and getting proclaimed king of the world. The malignant part could explain his vendettas (Zion's camp), excommunicating critical voices, etc.
Follow the savior Jesus Christ, and He will lead you to paths of righteousness, and He is the only way to the Father. Its His will that matters, not our own will to do our own thing. My own will is a lonely, troubling path, but Jesus will is to bring His Holy Spirit into my life for a sanctuary against the storms.
@@katrynnmelville1490 Sad way to live as far as Carmen Gale's comment? I think the way Ernie and Gary are living is beautiful. What a beautiful relationship they have!
This was another Mormon Story where solidarity stood out to me. Gary and Ernie went through so many painful/oppressive experiences because of a conservative religious culture that said their sexuality was invalid. Yet they both drew attention to what that same culture, with the homophobia and patriarchal purity culture, does to women as well. All our struggles are interconnected. I'm so glad these two wonderful guys found each other and are having so much joy in their lives now!
I wish Gary and Ernie were my neighbors thankyou for sharing your stories it means a lot
the love that radiates off of these two is so wonderful. I know stories about young mormons are important, but I love hearing from people who've been together for decades and are still fully infatuated with their partners like this.
Truly inspirational. I’ve been with my partner for 11 years now and we’re only 30 years old. This makes me even more excited for our future. I feel extremely grateful every single day to have someone who is so incredible and we mesh so well together. It’s wonderful to see two people thriving in a partnership. There is a peacefulness to their relationship. Made me emotional to watch the beauty of it all.
Gary and Ernie, thank you for your beautiful story! You guys are the example of love and compassion. I learned so much from you two. I’m also an Ex-Mormon for about three years now. I’m still working really hard to find myself and meanings after lost much of what I identified myself with. Fortunately, mindfulness practice became a big part of my life these days. Understanding and compassion (especially towards myself) help me to let go of negative experiences and move forward. I find more and more joy and peace each day. May you be well and have continuous joy and happiness!
I loved this interview with Gary and Ernie, they are so charming, funny and wise! Thank you for sharing with us your awesome life and love story. 🙏💫🥰
Gary and Ernie are so inspirational. They're doing it right... life, love, purpose. It's a beautiful thing.
What I see and here is two people who did everything that they could possibly imagine to be faithful to Mormonism even after so much let down from EVERYONE and EVERYTHING they still are positive. It breaks my heart that they were both put through so so much. I feel they are so inspirational. My 19 year old daughter is gay and our entire family accepts her and her partner. I’m so grateful that things have gotten a little easier for people like her and them as well. I’ve never met a gay person that wasn’t amazing. I don’t understand why people can’t look as well as treat gay people exactly the same as straight people. It blows my mind that any gay person or person of color would be treated different. At this point it’s just straight ignorance on the part of the people that go out their way to be ugly. I do know that I will do everything in my power to make sure my daughter feels loved.
Thank you for taking time to explain your philosophies post mormonism, and giving some perspective to navigate my TBM family’s disapproval.
Thank you so much! Gary and Ernie you are such loving humans, you are my absolute favorite people on Mormon Stories. You are highly educated, yet extremely intelligent especially emotionally intelligent. I feel like I can’t get enough of Ernie and Gary. I ended the episode feeling very hopeful and light. Thank you for this episode! I would love to hear how others are thriving in such a joyous way. ❤️❤️
I know you two lovely humans from Solstice this summer-so nice making that connection and seeing you here now! I hope we can dance again soon!
Great stuff, Thank you John & Margi. Thank you for sharing your stories, Gary and Ernie!
Thanks so much Gary and Ernie for sharing your experiences and relationship. What a beautiful story. As you talked and I saw how beautiful your relationship is, the tears came at the pain of getting to where you are now. It shouldn't be that hard. I'm sad that society is the way it is...mormon church especially. So so happy for the two of you! You two are quite special!
These men exude love and joy. I feel honored to get a peek into their lives.
Thank you so much for your honesty, candor and true love and admiration for each other. You inspire others and you SAVE LIVES!!
Paul and Lisa love our dear brothers and feel so fortunate to be in their cluster! Great job guys! Love you tons!🥰
These guys are so great. Their empathy and concern is so obvious and their desire to both give 100% is inspiring.
I don't know if Gary will see this but I have stomach issues and autoimmune inflammatory pain and about 4 years ago I started a drug not at all meant for autoimmune but that is making life better for thousands of people. I know he's an intellectual and thought I'd mention Low Dose Naltrexone (not the dose used to treat addiction which is about 100mg a day, but low dose, between 4 and 10mg a day.) I've never been into alternative therapies but I joined a group and saw it changing lives. It's the best medication I've tried in 30 years of autoimmune.
Maybe if you could just let him know. Maybe it could help. And if he wants more info, let me know. I'd be happy to talk.
Such an enriched thorough perspective of other peoples experience in the same community I grew up in. That is the gift of Mormon Stories. Better understanding outside ourselves.
Such a treat to find an unwatched episode - even more so to discover it was such a beautiful couple. True love.
I loved this inspirational podcast! They are exploring life together and learning how to love each other, so very important! Thank you John & Margie❤️
I enjoyed Ernie and Gary’s stories SO much! Their openness about about their religious deconstruction was painful to hear, but ultimately inspiring. And their joyful relationship is what so many of us aspire to. I wish I could be friends with them in real life 😊
They remind me of my cousin and his partner so much! They’re adorable and so loving.
Listening to this interview made me so happy! Such a wonderful loving energy! 🤗 All the best from a listener (and a bit of a family researcher) in Finland. 😄
I really enjoyed learning Gary & Ernie’s “backstory” in detail. Great interview ❤
I absolutely love these two and I don’t even know them. I’d love to be there friend, any day!
Before I joined the church at 18 years old, 1973, I was agnostic/atheist. The church, for me, was a whole package....joseph smith, god, jesus. When I left, the package was gone. I'm back to agnostic/atheist and I have never been happier. I don't need to have a belief in anything religious to be happy. I am not sure some people can understand that.
What a beautiful story, though heartbreaking all these two experienced that tried to define them is such a negative & predatory way. What an inspiration Ernie & Gary are & am grateful they chose to be so vulnerable & share their Mormon stories & their love story. Love wins.❤️
Brilliant interview♥️
what a beautiful partnership ❤ We could all learn something from these wonderful men. thank you for letting us in on your story 🥰
Thank Lu for sharing Gary and Ernie.
Many thanks:)
If a never-Mormon is this deep into Mormon stories, they understand genealogy and baptism for the dead.
This made me giggle thank you for that
This might be someone's first video that was recommended to them
A wonderful episode! Thanks a million!
Really enjoyed this, thank you Ernie and Gary!
One of the best mormon Stories!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So interesting . Love it
Learned much from you two
Thanks!
Love this so much!!!! Thank you for sharing your amazing life and beautiful love!❤❤
This was a beautiful story to hear. So much wisdom and joy. You two are a delight❤
We are all on a journey and to find such love is simply beautiful! ❤
Glad you found your freedom. My wife and I were stalked, terrorized and harassed by Mormons, until she died. Now they stalk me.
Shame on them.
All the best to you! 🌻
Thank you for this ❤
What a wonderful couple. Thank you for sharing your story.
Loved the video and these two great and intelligent men. I don't even know why I'm so interested in these Mormon stories as my life has never been touched by religion at all (which is a common experience in East Germany) and I always wonder how intelligent people can hold strong religious beliefs. This video made me aware that I consider these two more intelligent than other ex-mormons because they've become completely secular instead of trying to hold on to "crutches" like still believing in God. It's probably not a very nice and tolerant view, and most definitely not accurate, but it's interesting how my culture and community has indirectly instilled this view in me. For me, reading the Bible has the same measure of truth and importance as reading about Buddhism or reading the Lord of the Rings. My life and education has always focused on science, philosophy and self-determination that particularly these lifestyles in high demand religions baffle me and make me curious likewise.
On a completely unrelated topic: I love Margi's hair and hairstyle! I'm 35 and have a similar amount of gray hair in the front. I've been dying it for about ten years (which is when I started going gray), but I'm so frustrated with it because I feel like I should be less vain and I'm generally a natural person who doesn't wear any make-up. Seeing Margi proudly rocking that beautiful hairstyle over the last few videos I watched, is kind of empowering and I think I'm going to go for it as well.
Lovely episode.
I love this. The Gaytriarchs, indeed!
Thank you. Love this interview, appreciate the sharing n vulnerability
I heard you and felt your genuine love and joy of finding each other.
I am wondering about the difference in feeling love, and feeling the Holy Ghost? How is the tingle, warm heart associated with the Holy Ghost not a guide but your feelings of love and affection authentic and worthy of making big decisions for life i.e. choosing your life partner. I am sincerely seeking your thoughts, you seem to now dismiss the “tingles” and yet honor your heart and feelings of love.
What a wonderful episode! 😍
Interesting Indonesia was Dutch . I learned something
The love boat nightcaps!
I'm very glad that they found each other!
I love this story so very much!
Thank You
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Was your family musical??
Yes! You may have known Leraine if that is why you are asking, she is Ernie’s sister 🎶
Couple goals! ❤
❤ the gaytriarchs!
❤❤🏳️🌈💜🦜🦋🇺🇲🇦🇺🇱🇰🌏🌍🌎❤🦉
The BEST humans🥰🥰🥰
Can we do a karaoke/teach my husband how to dance night??!!
Sending so much love 😘😘😘
Honestly, I think you guys are brave.. Everyone deserves to follow their own north star..!!
All the very best two both of you..!!
(BTW JS introduced polygamy and plagiarized the BOM back in the DARK AGES..)
❤❤❤❤❤
💛🕯
I haven'f watched it yet.
Now thatch watched I can say that I
am better for having heard these two lovely humans being honest and purely happy.
This must be watched by all.
You reckon there wasn't a little same sex activity with Joseph and his 30-40 wives...come on. Such hypocrisy
Did Mormon Stories explore the claim that Joseph Smith had a narcissistic personality disorder or even a malignant narcissist personality disorder? Besides his boundless "marriages" to women and girls, it also explains him running for president and getting proclaimed king of the world. The malignant part could explain his vendettas (Zion's camp), excommunicating critical voices, etc.
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Follow the savior Jesus Christ, and He will lead you to paths of righteousness, and He is the only way to the Father. Its His will that matters, not our own will to do our own thing. My own will is a lonely, troubling path, but Jesus will is to bring His Holy Spirit into my life for a sanctuary against the storms.
I remember the last time Jesus touched me, it was amazing.
Yes
what a sad way to live.
@@katrynnmelville1490 Sad way to live as far as Carmen Gale's comment? I think the way Ernie and Gary are living is beautiful. What a beautiful relationship they have!
@@susanyork9396 yes the way carmen chooses to live. I agree ernie and gary are lucky to have found each other.