Cigars (like everything else) have diminishing returns once you break a certain price point ($11 ish). For example the difference between a $3 cigar and a $10 cigar is massive but the difference between a $10 cigar and a $40 cigar is borderline negligible.
@@ryancorsaut5177 where do you live ? I’m in Toronto and we have at least 10 cigar shops and premium hand rolled cigars do not start at 25$. You can get many popular non Cubans brands for $10-$16
About the inhaling portion I laughed so hard. I brought a friend to the cigar daily shop, he wouldn’t listen to me about not inhaling. He ended up vomiting outside on the side of your building and I had to ask Dustin for water to clean your building. 😂
I inhale like every couple puffs, ex cigarette smoker. Just really enjoy the way it hits your throat on a straight inhale. Every puff though you’d gotta be a mad man and not care about your well being at all lol
No one ever told me about turning the uneven burning portion up. I just came to the conclusion on my own. It probably doesn’t matter but it makes me feel better
I rotate my cigars 1/4 turn every 2-3 draws. If there is a breeze (outside) or draft (inside) it can impact the burn. If you're sitting in totally calm environment, it doesn't matter, but most of us don't have that luxury.
When I was younger and originally switched from smoking cigarettes to cigars, I naturally was inhaling cigars as I smoked them and I never had a problem with inhaling them. I then quit smoking altogether and when I came back to smoking cigars, it was no longer natural to inhale them. I had heard that you weren't supposed to and the few times I accidentally inhaled a small amount (as I learned to retrohale), I quickly learned that I definitely did not want to inhale cigars.
My wife smokes cigars, like all day. She probably smokes 6-8 daily. Normally when she gets off of work we share cigars together while watching TV. It's awesome. But sometimes I have to ask her please save this one to smoke with me. Lol
Thanks for being honest on the whole plume vs mold thing. It's incredible that people still not only think plume is a thing, but think it's a *good* thing. It doesn't really even make sense. If you think about it, the most likely way to get oils to the surface would be to dramatically under humidify, so the cells of the leaf desiccate and shrink. Obviously, that is not a good idea.
When I started smoking cigars someone told me to rotate the cigar when I smoked it to stop it from canoeing. Now I only rotate it through habit. And yes, sometimes a stick canoes regardless lol.
I've been smoking cigars for over 15 years and I've always heard about the uneven burn. I never thought it did anything but I did always rotate it just in case and never thought to look into it further. I'll never do that again. Thanks for clearing it up!
Got into cigars about half a year ago and I'd definitely agree with what Tim says at 5:57. I live in Europe where I pay significantly more per stick than in the U.S. There's more variety in the U.S. and it's usually a LOT cheaper, sure you can't legitimately buy Cubans at home but there's so much more on the market than just Cubans, which are nice but definitely not the be all end all of cigars. Great vid as usual Cigars Daily
The cigars I typically smoke are prone to getting runs to one side and I’ve found that rotating the cigar as I’m smoking it helps to prevent this and keeps it burning evenly.
When starting out, I accidentally inhaled a Perdomo Sungrown. Even as a cigarette smoker at the time, that inhale hurt so badly! Solid three minutes of recovery time.
Oh I know many like this. I like Nicaraguan, but I know guys who turn up their nose. In fact, I have had a few Cubans and many other countries, and I don’t think Cubans are the best I have had.
If you like Nicaraguan powerful cigars and have an opportunity to smoke cubans again, try the Partagas Serie P #2. Might be the best full bodied cigar coming out of cuba short of the ultra exclusive stuff
I like a vertical V cut just because of the feel and the fact that I can get a good seal when I draw. I have to agree with Tim, love the colibri cutter
Vs are nice, when I'm fishing or doing yard work I'm prone clenching the cigar in my mouth, v cuts stay together better when you do that over a straight cut I've found.
The re-lighting cracks me up. If i don't finish a cigar, I'll snip the charred part and store in my humidor. Recently, I did that and the second smoke from the re-light was more enjoyable than the first light 😂
Agreed. I do keep a small container in my humidor just for that with it's own Boveda. I also think it throws of the odor of the rest of my humidor if I don't seperate them.
I had bad canoeing issues with my cigars a few years back from many makers and sizes. Switched from 69% Boveda down to the 65% Boveda packs and completely solved all my burn issues. Probably year 4 or 5 now using the 65% and could not be happier. Took me years to figure out how to store my cigars properly at least for my climate i suppose.
I agree that turning the long side up doesn't work to even the burn on a cigar. That idea, however, works well on a joint. I guess that is where the idea comes from
lol, thanks man! It was good poop. I'm training a team member to edit videos over here, so I should be able to get more content out like this in the coming weeks. Very exicted.
It's a sign of good construction. Some guys find it to be a fun game to see how long they can keep their ash. However, keeping your ash long wont do much if anything towards the general enjoyment of the cigar.
My wife smokes my cigars pretty regularly. We enjoy it and it is really relaxing. By the way...I am awaiting my first order from you guys! Great prices and free shipping...cant beat it!!!
Misinformation: flavored cigars are for newbies. I’m 61 & been smoking cigars since the late 1970’s. I never had a flavored cigar until about 15-20 years ago and tried an Acid Nasty. Now one of my humidors is for Acid only!
I'll always find a padron family reserve 46 year worth it But I'll also love me a drew estate Maduro factory smoke as well. Learn what you like, and branch from there. It's about consistency and refining your taste for what will bring you joy, not how much or how expensive your collection is. Least for those of us not ultra wealthy lol.
You guys absolutely nailed! When I 1st started, I canooed and kept using dank old matches to start it back up. A month later, still using matches with an even burn. 20 years later, using a combination of matches and torches. It's kind of hard to do with matches here in the windy state of Maine.. Plus you are always in a hurry in the cold weather. I thrown on my snow suit and enjoy an icy cigar to the finish. Never listened to anyone's "tips".
The "canoeing" as you call it or uneven burn. Rotating the uneven burned part up has always worked for me, /shrug. I wouldnt really call it "misinformation", maybe somewhere along the lines of rumor. I generally rotate mine throughout the smoke which I think maintains an even burn. Personally I think the cut has a lot to do the overall draw and burn. An uneven cut may produce a more uneven burn.
When I was a college cigar noob I was exclusively recommended light, boring, flavorless cigars by tobacconists who assumed that would be the best beginner smoke. They also associated light/dark with light/strong.
Love your show and the fact that you do a pretty good review on a lot of cigars. I just recently found you and am happy I did. Thanks for all the content. That being said I would like to correct one of your misconceptions. That would be your comments on Cuban cigars. I think we all get the fact that you have a cigar shop in the US and you make a good living from it. I certainly didn't expect you to come out and say yea Cubans are the best. LOL. I've been smoking cigars for 23 years. I started out on non cubans. Mostly Fuentes. Then someone gifted me a cuban and for the next 22 years that is all I smoked. Now with the prices going so high I am looking at non cubans once again. Anyway, a fair statement would have been that some people prefer Cubans over non Cubans. Comes down to personal preference. Look at the European and Asian markets. They are buying up Cubans faster than they can make them which is one reason why they have become scarce lately. Non Cubans do poorly in those markets except for a select few that are trying to gear their cigars towards a more cuban profile. So, my recent experience with non cubans is that they are getting better. Some manufacturers have tried really hard to make some high quality sticks. Tatuaje and Dunbarton are 2 of them off the top of my head. I would go as far as saying that i like thier cigars. Still not as good as Cubans but decent smokes. As for pricing, I will spend money on cigars. 925 in the last 2 weeks alone. All non Cubans. Sadly none with you. For some reason your not even close to being competitive but I did want to support you. i think your a good guy and enjoy your shows. So, as far as buying cigars goes, I can buy excellent custom rolled cubans for 250-350 a bundle. so when non Cubans get up to even close to that price, I prefer to buy Cubans. So what I am looking for is a good quality non Cuban cigar that is nowhere near that price point. Some Tatuaje and some Dunbarton fit the bill. Not all of them because they are getting up there in price. I have tried and am trying some of the higher end stuff but only on a one time deal just to see where they are at. In conclusion, non Cuban producers are geared toward the US market. 99.5% of US cigar smokers are probably smoking non Cubans. There is little chance that that will change anytime in the next 10-20 years. Even if the embargo is lifted, the prices are so high now that most couldn't afford them anyway. They are still the best cigars on the planet and will be for at least several more decades. Non Cubans have come a long way in 10 years but they still cant reproduce that Cuban salty twang. Thats whats really missing from the non Cubans. If they ever get that figured out they will be onto something and be able to compete with the Cubans.
I Recently started smoking cigars on and off since the last year. Idk if it is MY tastebuds of just me burning bad but, I really don't feel or TASTE any difference between a LOT of the budget sticks. There's only about 4 cigs that I actively taste a difference. Macanudos Whites, flavored small tatianas, cuban rejects, a random romeo and juliet, and Backwoods honey berry. Out of those Im starting to not even try any other cigars. Factory smokes and Camachos are also good (Light/Connecticut's only for me too.)
New to the channel and I love it👍🏼 I have been smokin stoges for over 20 years and I remember lighting up around a woman I started dating and at first she didn't say anything but after awhile it bothered her and she told me I had to go outside not to mention she smoked cigarettes! So go figure smh....so one day it was raining out and I wanted to light up a cohiba and she of course complained about it being smoked inside so I went out and across the way was a lady underneath an awning smoking a cigarette she invited me over to get under the awning and we talked and laughed about how her mom made her smoke outside and how my "soon to be ex" made me smoke outside well needless to say we started dating and have been best of friends to this day! Thanks to my cohiba😁🤌🏼
My wife likes to take a few draws on my cigar sometimes. It’s perfect because I get to spend time with her and don’t have to give up whole cigars. As far as cigars having to be expensive, my top 2 favorites are both under $10. I’ve found the same myth in the whiskey world.
Ok. I need to say something. Four days ago I watched one of your vids that mentioned how to fix canoeing by putting the slow burning side down. Yes down it’s what I remembered 😅 I know it’s wrong but that’s what I did since. Four days I’ve been doing it and it works. Every. Time. Slow side down. I swear.
ALOT of what I heard in the beginning was: cigars are a luxury item, only wealthy successful people can enjoy them, and any stick under $10 is trash. Well as a working class normie who enjoys $3 sticks, I say F*** ALL OF THAT.
I was told if you have a canoeing cigar you should put the slower burning in down when smoking because of the way oxygen is pulled into the cigar it helps the bottom heat up more and catch up. I have done it in the past and it worked but sometimes the canoeing is so bad nothing but a flame will fix it.
Agreed. Slow side down AND at 45 degrees to the ground will fix canoeing if you catch it early enough and it was lit right. Slow side up will not. We need a proper myth buster experiment. Small canoeing vs large canoeing at different angles, up vs down and see if it can be corrected. I do this all the time and never need to touch up. It does slow you down though. I challenge the CD crew to experiment and I challenge this as misinformation.
From what I have learned about the various cuts and learned from my own experience, the cuts I use depend on shape and type of cigar. I use V-cut for belicoso or torpedoes to keep the integrity of the head shape. Straight cut and punch cuts depend on what I want in a draw and/or mouth feel. Most depend on preference, but with the V, I think shape is the main factor.
So, ive been dabubling in cigars for about 13yrs, and with TH-cam videos ive finaly started to enjoy them, learned how to light them, how to enjoy them, and how to put them out. but, when do you know when to stop? i know to left the geat loosen the glueto remove the wrapper! but when do you say enough? my go to, is Oliva series v maleno, and my new one is Padron 1964 anv series. and i tried one a few weeks ago pink something it was a limited bring in and 3D's cigars in colorado springs!
One of my fav bits of cigar 'misinformation' that I've heard from time to time is that you shouldn't hold a cigar like a cigarette (between your fingers), you should only hold it between thumb and forefinger. I have no idea what this is supposed to accomplish - maybe it's supposed to be easier to handle?
Turning a canoeing smoke to put the slower burning side up is just an idea that is reinvented by new smokers every day. It makes sense that it would help -- it just doesn't in practice.
Another one I heard was that you had to remove the cellophane from the cigar before putting in your humidor. Total bunk. Cellophane prevents the cigar from losing subtle flavors over long periods of aging. That comes from the Sahakians who started testing the idea decades ago.
I’ve seen a lot of cigar makers inhale cigars. Saka, for example. Jones and Nodal. The myth I want busted is that you should freeze your cigars at home in your kitchen refrigerator. My thoughts are that a residential style freezer found in most homes will not get cold enough and that condensation or humidification can present a real problem.
Been smoking cigars for 25 years + Canoe'ing is easily dealt with lick your finger and wet the side thats burning fast it will slow the burn on that side. Or burn it off before it gets to far works to. Cutting, different cigars will smoke and have a different experience depending what cut is used. Typically flat rounded ends ( Parejo style) with a leaf cap will have a better smoking with a plug hole. Where pointed end (Torpedo ) will smoke better with the flat clipper. Rounded or semi pointed (Belocoso) styles can favorer the V cutters. Keep in mind that just in general, it really comes down to the cigar itself some are simply just a better smoke with a different cut. Try the same cigar brand with a plug or a flat clip, you will find it does provide a different experience when you compare the two cuts. Cubans or non Cubans, All countries that make cigars have different climates, soil, sun , shade and other factors like altitude that can change the tobacco plant flavor where it is grown even though it is of the same seed . This can be a subtle change or a significant change. Even where the picked leaves are stored until aged and rolled can change the flavor. Personally I prefer the Cuban's myself. In particular the Hoyo De Monterey Coronations are my base cigar. I find over all to be the most desirable consistent flavoring when a plug is used to open the end. However Cigars from Nicaragua, Honduras, Ecuador and even Dominican Republic can produce well made top end cigars that stand on their own. Really each of these counties in general produce unique cigars and have a style that is easily identifiable as to which country they are from. Fun fact : Guantanamera Cristales are a cheap Cuban rustic like and in general considered to be a low end machined rolled cigar however if you age it over 2 years or longer it completely changes and becomes something that will challenge the highest end Cubans. I recently smoked a 7 year aged one and it tasted very similar to a Cohiba Siglo 3. Plume, is a white mold that effects tobacco leaves and no it doesnt show or reflect the age of the cigar. Although some aged leaf cigar tobacco may have more signs of it. I have seen it show up on a wide range of cigars, even in tubo's. It simply means the cigar has had some sort of contamination at the source. it could be the leaf wrap , where it was stored before rolling, moisture, spores or even from the hand roller themselves in what they touched. If found on cigars in a box it can be rubbed off and for the most part wont effect the cigar being smoked. At most it may be a bit musty if overly infected. Keep in mind this refers to the white plume that the tobacco leaf usually gets. This does not include black mold or other colour molds. These would mean dont smoke it, the cigar is ruined with those other types of mold. Inhaling, yeah cigar smoke is not really meant to be inhaled. Originally cigars or what was rolled like a cigar was used to be smoked and kept lit to keep the mosquitoes at bay while in the tropics by the locals of the area. Like Tim said pulled into the mouth , taste and mix with a whisky and dont forget to spit occasionally. However I have met some people that do and even met some famous people that do. These people tend to be Old Boys Club tough old grizzled men. It really comes down to personal preference, taste, experience ( dont be afraid to try different brands ) , availability, research and aging can all play a factor as to what your own personal preference will be. Cheers Everyone !
Considering uneven burns if you have a very thin pin and stick it in the side that's not burning so the air gets through that helps or let the cigar cool off and then touch it up on the unburned side only.
I was always told to start with Connecticuts and lighter shades of cigars. Smoked like 5 of them and didn't like them at all, almost thought cigars weren't for me. Then I smoked a Tabernacle and realized that I just needed something with a stronger and heartier taste.
Turning the unburned side up always works for me, so I don't understand. I turn it up and blow on the tip a few times and it catches up with the rest. .shrugs
Here’s one I got from Tim the Swanson himself - rotate the cigar in your mouth while lighting it… it’s just silly. Instead, I just move the torch in circles 😂 much easier and intuitive.
I occasionally inhale a puff, generally on more mild cigars, former 2 pack a dayer who dabbled in jazz cabbage. Small puffs can be a nice little headrush
sooo. iv used 2 acid c-notes for just their wrapper leaf. (it worked not all will, only do it if its $2 per and for the flavor from the leaf. i did this once, its for special occasions)
The reason my wife glares at me when I’m outside smoking a cigar, is because she’s probably working and can’t join me. I’m lucky to have someone who encourages my hobbies.
If a cigar has the cellophane on in the humidor it just takes longer for it to be acclimated but it honestly doesn’t do anything bad at all it just pretty much delays how long it’ll take to for the cigars to reach the humidity level. I personally leave the “wrapper” on just so I can check the cigars for mold, cracks or holes without having my fingers accidentally damage it, and so I can hand them to other people who want to look and smell them without them grabbing it and disrupting the aging process. In the end it’s all up to you but I would just leave it on.
I got one you can't enjoy a cigar in 30 degree or lower temp I basically smoke in cold Temps and still enjoy yes its better to smoke in the summer time but not everyone lives in enjoyable weather
Cigars and pipe tobacco are very similarly honest with prices. The prices are not because of what you will pay, they are because of the price of production. If you have a 5 dollar cigar then it was easily procured tobacco and an easy process.
I partly disagree on the flipping the cigar so the slow burning side can catch up. I started turning the slow burning side continuously down! I have a plethora of different cigars and since I've started doing this, I HAVEN'T HAD A SINGLE CIGAR CANOE👀👀😎 NOT 1. And I'm smoking 4-6 cigars daily.
The relights were my big one. I am a mom that said goodbye to my profession as a first responder to homeschool. So no way am I tossing a precious stick over an uneven burn. I fix it. If it goes out, I knock off that ash and light her back up! Also "never remove the wrapper". I wish my husband smoked cigars. He hates that I do it.
When I started smoking cigars 30 years ago I asked a guy at the cigar lounge what’s the difference between a 3$ cigar and a 10$ cigar, he told me 7 bux! Most of my EDS are 7 to 9 dollars, it’s about what you like to smoke.
At home, if no one sees it, I remove the banderole before I cut the cigar. I know there are people who would tar and feather me for it. But I just like holding a bare, original cigar between my fingers. Especially with Short Robustos, where the banderole is already reached after 2cm of embers. Of course, I know that something like this would never be possible in a public lounge...
Just here to say that the statement "storing wine upright will dry out corks" is a total myth.......and would belong in a "Wine Daily" video of similar subject:) Simple physics tells us that the humidity inside the bottle is 100%. Regardless if the liquid is touching the cork. The entire bottle of wine would need to evaporate before a cork could possibly dry out. On the other hand, wine cellar humidity does matter and an arid environment can dry out a cork.....but from the outside. Good video guys. I enjoyed it.
When I first started I saw a bunch of things saying to start with Connecticut shade wrapper as it is a smoother and more mild cigar. I found that I dislike the flavor profile of the Connecticut for the most part, and it almost it almost drove me away from cigars altogether. I decided to try a Drew estates undercrown Maduro and found I really enjoyed that stick and continued with the hobby.
Yeah. I get the "mild" cigar thing, and it's cool for those that love it. I tried those at first as well. Ended up with a cheap Maduro and it was like: "Oh! This is amazing!"
I have often seen real plume, the sugar crystals, on very aged pipe tobaccos, it will gather on the paper inlay that is found on top of the tobacco in the can. Big, brownish yet clear, sticky crystals. It has nothing to do with the white, powdery stuff on cigars some people think is plume, and they look nothing alike. The white, powdery stuff is mold.
I think folks ignore the “wrapper to filler ratio”. Try to find similar tobaccos in a 6x60 and a lancero….lancer is have a better ratio and often a more flavorful smoke.
Do cigar boxes have date stamps? I found a 50 ct. box of Punch Rothschilds Vintage 1959 English market selection cigars from a fleamarket vendor selling some estate sale items. I know age doesn't really matter but I kinda hope these weren't made in 1959 because the box smelled a bit moldy and the label seemed to be a bit dated but I'm not sure. Great video! Thanks.
Well we used to smoke weed a joint we called it a runner ,and you were just wet your finger with the little bit of spit from your tongue and put it where it's running and it would slow it down and let the rest of the burn catch up so I tried that with my cigar is that okay
I have to come to the table and say thay if you have an uneven burn having it up does work. I do it all the time. It definitely helps. Maybe the wind blows differently in the USA but all i can say is it does work in a pinch.
You need to get an expensive, “engineered” humidor because the cheaper ones don’t have a good seal, are mold traps, etc. Then you get hip to Tupperdors.
When my cigar is burning uneven and I put the end that's not burning fast on the bottom it does even my cigars .... I always do that.... And it works for me.....
Cigars (like everything else) have diminishing returns once you break a certain price point ($11 ish). For example the difference between a $3 cigar and a $10 cigar is massive but the difference between a $10 cigar and a $40 cigar is borderline negligible.
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Not in Canada. Hand rolled cigars start at 25 ish.
@Ryan Corsaut eh 25 Canadian is like $10 in proper bald eagles right? 😜
Can’t get many hand rolled cigars under around £15 in the UK most brands have their “standard production” sitting at £20-30 minimum
@@ryancorsaut5177 where do you live ? I’m in Toronto and we have at least 10 cigar shops and premium hand rolled cigars do not start at 25$. You can get many popular non Cubans brands for $10-$16
About the inhaling portion I laughed so hard. I brought a friend to the cigar daily shop, he wouldn’t listen to me about not inhaling. He ended up vomiting outside on the side of your building and I had to ask Dustin for water to clean your building. 😂
That’s funny man
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I inhale like every couple puffs, ex cigarette smoker. Just really enjoy the way it hits your throat on a straight inhale. Every puff though you’d gotta be a mad man and not care about your well being at all lol
Now that's funny! I think I remember that. Word of pukers always makes it to the studio.
No one ever told me about turning the uneven burning portion up. I just came to the conclusion on my own. It probably doesn’t matter but it makes me feel better
It does work.
Actually, I find it helps the opposite way. It doesn’t make sense to me, but the end that’s not burning right seems to catch up when I have it down.
I rotate my cigars 1/4 turn every 2-3 draws. If there is a breeze (outside) or draft (inside) it can impact the burn. If you're sitting in totally calm environment, it doesn't matter, but most of us don't have that luxury.
@@SomeGuyFromOK Same!
@@SomeGuyFromOK That’s been my experience as well and it does work
When I was younger and originally switched from smoking cigarettes to cigars, I naturally was inhaling cigars as I smoked them and I never had a problem with inhaling them. I then quit smoking altogether and when I came back to smoking cigars, it was no longer natural to inhale them. I had heard that you weren't supposed to and the few times I accidentally inhaled a small amount (as I learned to retrohale), I quickly learned that I definitely did not want to inhale cigars.
My wife smokes cigars, like all day. She probably smokes 6-8 daily. Normally when she gets off of work we share cigars together while watching TV. It's awesome. But sometimes I have to ask her please save this one to smoke with me. Lol
Thanks for being honest on the whole plume vs mold thing. It's incredible that people still not only think plume is a thing, but think it's a *good* thing. It doesn't really even make sense. If you think about it, the most likely way to get oils to the surface would be to dramatically under humidify, so the cells of the leaf desiccate and shrink. Obviously, that is not a good idea.
When I started smoking cigars someone told me to rotate the cigar when I smoked it to stop it from canoeing. Now I only rotate it through habit.
And yes, sometimes a stick canoes regardless lol.
I've been smoking cigars for over 15 years and I've always heard about the uneven burn. I never thought it did anything but I did always rotate it just in case and never thought to look into it further. I'll never do that again. Thanks for clearing it up!
but it works with a jooooiiint......
Everyone is different. A cigar that I love, someone else may absolutely hate. And one they love I may not like. Smoke what you like.
Got into cigars about half a year ago and I'd definitely agree with what Tim says at 5:57. I live in Europe where I pay significantly more per stick than in the U.S. There's more variety in the U.S. and it's usually a LOT cheaper, sure you can't legitimately buy Cubans at home but there's so much more on the market than just Cubans, which are nice but definitely not the be all end all of cigars.
Great vid as usual Cigars Daily
The cigars I typically smoke are prone to getting runs to one side and I’ve found that rotating the cigar as I’m smoking it helps to prevent this and keeps it burning evenly.
I love these kind of cigar talks. ❤🙂
I appreciate it.
It's our pleasure Jen! I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
yes this guy is awesome
When starting out, I accidentally inhaled a Perdomo Sungrown. Even as a cigarette smoker at the time, that inhale hurt so badly! Solid three minutes of recovery time.
"If it ain't a Cuban, it's not a Real Cigar". Lol
I hate that one
Oh I know many like this. I like Nicaraguan, but I know guys who turn up their nose. In fact, I have had a few Cubans and many other countries, and I don’t think Cubans are the best I have had.
Heard that one too
My wife love cigars
If you like Nicaraguan powerful cigars and have an opportunity to smoke cubans again, try the Partagas Serie P #2. Might be the best full bodied cigar coming out of cuba short of the ultra exclusive stuff
I like a vertical V cut just because of the feel and the fact that I can get a good seal when I draw. I have to agree with Tim, love the colibri cutter
Vs are nice, when I'm fishing or doing yard work I'm prone clenching the cigar in my mouth, v cuts stay together better when you do that over a straight cut I've found.
The re-lighting cracks me up. If i don't finish a cigar, I'll snip the charred part and store in my humidor. Recently, I did that and the second smoke from the re-light was more enjoyable than the first light 😂
I don’t think it’s that you can’t, I don’t like how it tastes the 2nd time around. I think it fouls the other cigars in the box.
Keep 2 humidors. One for the fresh sticks, one for the burnt sticks.
Agreed. I do keep a small container in my humidor just for that with it's own Boveda. I also think it throws of the odor of the rest of my humidor if I don't seperate them.
This is better than talk shows. More please.
In a nutshell, almost any cigar etiquette that is shown in TV and movies is a bad tip.
I had bad canoeing issues with my cigars a few years back from many makers and sizes. Switched from 69% Boveda down to the 65% Boveda packs and completely solved all my burn issues. Probably year 4 or 5 now using the 65% and could not be happier. Took me years to figure out how to store my cigars properly at least for my climate i suppose.
Guy told me to lick the entire cigar before lighting. I think it was a form of old man hazing 😂
I use to do that haha. Wet it so it burned slower.. or so I thought haha
I agree that turning the long side up doesn't work to even the burn on a cigar. That idea, however, works well on a joint. I guess that is where the idea comes from
That was a great live show! Love how you took one of the best parts and turned it into a short vid. Good poop guys!
lol, thanks man! It was good poop. I'm training a team member to edit videos over here, so I should be able to get more content out like this in the coming weeks. Very exicted.
As for cutting a cigar anyway you want; don't punch a torpedo, just don't do it
Yeah I think most people would figure that out while trying it.
I'm unsure if this is true, but someone told me the longer the ash hangs on without falling off, the better the cigar is.
It's a sign of good construction. Some guys find it to be a fun game to see how long they can keep their ash. However, keeping your ash long wont do much if anything towards the general enjoyment of the cigar.
I'm a regular Ashton VSG smoker. But I also really like a Fuente Curly Head. Price doesn't matter if you like the smoke.
Enjoyable, entertaining and informative chat session! Thanks for clearing up some misconceptions, mistakes and misinformation.
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. God bless
Should be a convenience store .
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I really enjoyed this segment. You guys are the best.
I didn’t know anyone who smoked cigars, I only know what you taught me. I do feel knowledgeable because of it .
My wife smokes my cigars pretty regularly. We enjoy it and it is really relaxing. By the way...I am awaiting my first order from you guys! Great prices and free shipping...cant beat it!!!
Misinformation: flavored cigars are for newbies.
I’m 61 & been smoking cigars since the late 1970’s. I never had a flavored cigar until about 15-20 years ago and tried an Acid Nasty. Now one of my humidors is for Acid only!
I'll always find a padron family reserve 46 year worth it
But I'll also love me a drew estate Maduro factory smoke as well.
Learn what you like, and branch from there. It's about consistency and refining your taste for what will bring you joy, not how much or how expensive your collection is. Least for those of us not ultra wealthy lol.
You guys absolutely nailed! When I 1st started, I canooed and kept using dank old matches to start it back up. A month later, still using matches with an even burn. 20 years later, using a combination of matches and torches. It's kind of hard to do with matches here in the windy state of Maine.. Plus you are always in a hurry in the cold weather. I thrown on my snow suit and enjoy an icy cigar to the finish. Never listened to anyone's "tips".
The "canoeing" as you call it or uneven burn. Rotating the uneven burned part up has always worked for me, /shrug. I wouldnt really call it "misinformation", maybe somewhere along the lines of rumor. I generally rotate mine throughout the smoke which I think maintains an even burn. Personally I think the cut has a lot to do the overall draw and burn. An uneven cut may produce a more uneven burn.
When I was a college cigar noob I was exclusively recommended light, boring, flavorless cigars by tobacconists who assumed that would be the best beginner smoke.
They also associated light/dark with light/strong.
Love your show and the fact that you do a pretty good review on a lot of cigars. I just recently found you and am happy I did. Thanks for all the content.
That being said I would like to correct one of your misconceptions. That would be your comments on Cuban cigars. I think we all get the fact that you have a cigar shop in the US and you make a good living from it. I certainly didn't expect you to come out and say yea Cubans are the best. LOL. I've been smoking cigars for 23 years. I started out on non cubans. Mostly Fuentes. Then someone gifted me a cuban and for the next 22 years that is all I smoked. Now with the prices going so high I am looking at non cubans once again. Anyway, a fair statement would have been that some people prefer Cubans over non Cubans. Comes down to personal preference. Look at the European and Asian markets. They are buying up Cubans faster than they can make them which is one reason why they have become scarce lately. Non Cubans do poorly in those markets except for a select few that are trying to gear their cigars towards a more cuban profile.
So, my recent experience with non cubans is that they are getting better. Some manufacturers have tried really hard to make some high quality sticks. Tatuaje and Dunbarton are 2 of them off the top of my head. I would go as far as saying that i like thier cigars. Still not as good as Cubans but decent smokes.
As for pricing, I will spend money on cigars. 925 in the last 2 weeks alone. All non Cubans. Sadly none with you. For some reason your not even close to being competitive but I did want to support you. i think your a good guy and enjoy your shows. So, as far as buying cigars goes, I can buy excellent custom rolled cubans for 250-350 a bundle. so when non Cubans get up to even close to that price, I prefer to buy Cubans. So what I am looking for is a good quality non Cuban cigar that is nowhere near that price point. Some Tatuaje and some Dunbarton fit the bill. Not all of them because they are getting up there in price. I have tried and am trying some of the higher end stuff but only on a one time deal just to see where they are at.
In conclusion, non Cuban producers are geared toward the US market. 99.5% of US cigar smokers are probably smoking non Cubans. There is little chance that that will change anytime in the next 10-20 years. Even if the embargo is lifted, the prices are so high now that most couldn't afford them anyway. They are still the best cigars on the planet and will be for at least several more decades. Non Cubans have come a long way in 10 years but they still cant reproduce that Cuban salty twang. Thats whats really missing from the non Cubans. If they ever get that figured out they will be onto something and be able to compete with the Cubans.
I Recently started smoking cigars on and off since the last year. Idk if it is MY tastebuds of just me burning bad but, I really don't feel or TASTE any difference between a LOT of the budget sticks. There's only about 4 cigs that I actively taste a difference. Macanudos Whites, flavored small tatianas, cuban rejects, a random romeo and juliet, and Backwoods honey berry. Out of those Im starting to not even try any other cigars. Factory smokes and Camachos are also good (Light/Connecticut's only for me too.)
New to the channel and I love it👍🏼 I have been smokin stoges for over 20 years and I remember lighting up around a woman I started dating and at first she didn't say anything but after awhile it bothered her and she told me I had to go outside not to mention she smoked cigarettes! So go figure smh....so one day it was raining out and I wanted to light up a cohiba and she of course complained about it being smoked inside so I went out and across the way was a lady underneath an awning smoking a cigarette she invited me over to get under the awning and we talked and laughed about how her mom made her smoke outside and how my "soon to be ex" made me smoke outside well needless to say we started dating and have been best of friends to this day! Thanks to my cohiba😁🤌🏼
My wife likes to take a few draws on my cigar sometimes. It’s perfect because I get to spend time with her and don’t have to give up whole cigars. As far as cigars having to be expensive, my top 2 favorites are both under $10. I’ve found the same myth in the whiskey world.
You have a great wife. Defiantly a keeper. 💨
What are your two favorite specifically?
We don’t all have palates for higher end stuff.
Yes. What are your two favorite Whiskeys?
Really enjoying kristoffs right now. Got an 8piece sampler and their maduros are excellent
I like that Old Elk in the background....I picked a barrel and it's great with a cigar.
Ok. I need to say something. Four days ago I watched one of your vids that mentioned how to fix canoeing by putting the slow burning side down. Yes down it’s what I remembered 😅 I know it’s wrong but that’s what I did since. Four days I’ve been doing it and it works. Every. Time. Slow side down. I swear.
As far as a cigar having to be over $20, I was recommended a cigar called a Bolivar Confraida that was like 6$ and WOW what a great smoke
A real and legit Bolivar that costs 6$? 😳
ALOT of what I heard in the beginning was: cigars are a luxury item, only wealthy successful people can enjoy them, and any stick under $10 is trash. Well as a working class normie who enjoys $3 sticks, I say F*** ALL OF THAT.
For real🤣some $3 sticks like Jm’s are good enough to smoke on and they’re not harsh at all for me.
I keep a 2 dollars cigar clamped in my jaw all day long at work.
I was told if you have a canoeing cigar you should put the slower burning in down when smoking because of the way oxygen is pulled into the cigar it helps the bottom heat up more and catch up. I have done it in the past and it worked but sometimes the canoeing is so bad nothing but a flame will fix it.
Agreed. Slow side down AND at 45 degrees to the ground will fix canoeing if you catch it early enough and it was lit right. Slow side up will not. We need a proper myth buster experiment. Small canoeing vs large canoeing at different angles, up vs down and see if it can be corrected. I do this all the time and never need to touch up. It does slow you down though. I challenge the CD crew to experiment and I challenge this as misinformation.
That’s exactly what was said in the video, congrats
@@Sp3ci4l the opposite was said in the video.
From what I have learned about the various cuts and learned from my own experience, the cuts I use depend on shape and type of cigar. I use V-cut for belicoso or torpedoes to keep the integrity of the head shape. Straight cut and punch cuts depend on what I want in a draw and/or mouth feel. Most depend on preference, but with the V, I think shape is the main factor.
So, ive been dabubling in cigars for about 13yrs, and with TH-cam videos ive finaly started to enjoy them, learned how to light them, how to enjoy them, and how to put them out. but, when do you know when to stop? i know to left the geat loosen the glueto remove the wrapper! but when do you say enough?
my go to, is Oliva series v maleno, and my new one is Padron 1964 anv series. and i tried one a few weeks ago pink something it was a limited bring in and 3D's cigars in colorado springs!
One of my fav bits of cigar 'misinformation' that I've heard from time to time is that you shouldn't hold a cigar like a cigarette (between your fingers), you should only hold it between thumb and forefinger. I have no idea what this is supposed to accomplish - maybe it's supposed to be easier to handle?
Turning a canoeing smoke to put the slower burning side up is just an idea that is reinvented by new smokers every day. It makes sense that it would help -- it just doesn't in practice.
I suggest Nica Rustica broadleaf and the Adobe line, along with the Herrera Esteli. All smokes around the 8-10 dollar range.
warm air travels "higher" heat radiates from a single point in all directions.
Love all the information that Tim provides.
Enjoy all the videos.
Another one I heard was that you had to remove the cellophane from the cigar before putting in your humidor. Total bunk. Cellophane prevents the cigar from losing subtle flavors over long periods of aging. That comes from the Sahakians who started testing the idea decades ago.
Price point is huge, Factory smokes are great and $2. My favorite cheapo is a Maduro Cuban Reject $3 at my local shop.
Hey - my mate was the Aussie who did that pseudo-science experiment in the lab! That's Damo from the Aussie Cigar Professor debunking crazy ideas!
I’ve seen a lot of cigar makers inhale cigars. Saka, for example. Jones and Nodal.
The myth I want busted is that you should freeze your cigars at home in your kitchen refrigerator. My thoughts are that a residential style freezer found in most homes will not get cold enough and that condensation or humidification can present a real problem.
Been smoking cigars for 25 years +
Canoe'ing is easily dealt with lick your finger and wet the side thats burning fast it will slow the burn on that side. Or burn it off before it gets to far works to.
Cutting, different cigars will smoke and have a different experience depending what cut is used. Typically flat rounded ends ( Parejo style) with a leaf cap will have a better smoking with a plug hole. Where pointed end (Torpedo ) will smoke better with the flat clipper. Rounded or semi pointed (Belocoso) styles can favorer the V cutters. Keep in mind that just in general, it really comes down to the cigar itself some are simply just a better smoke with a different cut. Try the same cigar brand with a plug or a flat clip, you will find it does provide a different experience when you compare the two cuts.
Cubans or non Cubans, All countries that make cigars have different climates, soil, sun , shade and other factors like altitude that can change the tobacco plant flavor where it is grown even though it is of the same seed . This can be a subtle change or a significant change. Even where the picked leaves are stored until aged and rolled can change the flavor.
Personally I prefer the Cuban's myself. In particular the Hoyo De Monterey Coronations are my base cigar. I find over all to be the most desirable consistent flavoring when a plug is used to open the end.
However Cigars from Nicaragua, Honduras, Ecuador and even Dominican Republic can produce well made top end cigars that stand on their own. Really each of these counties in general produce unique cigars and have a style that is easily identifiable as to which country they are from.
Fun fact : Guantanamera Cristales are a cheap Cuban rustic like and in general considered to be a low end machined rolled cigar however if you age it over 2 years or longer it completely changes and becomes something that will challenge the highest end Cubans. I recently smoked a 7 year aged one and it tasted very similar to a Cohiba Siglo 3.
Plume, is a white mold that effects tobacco leaves and no it doesnt show or reflect the age of the cigar. Although some aged leaf cigar tobacco may have more signs of it. I have seen it show up on a wide range of cigars, even in tubo's. It simply means the cigar has had some sort of contamination at the source. it could be the leaf wrap , where it was stored before rolling, moisture, spores or even from the hand roller themselves in what they touched. If found on cigars in a box it can be rubbed off and for the most part wont effect the cigar being smoked. At most it may be a bit musty if overly infected. Keep in mind this refers to the white plume that the tobacco leaf usually gets. This does not include black mold or other colour molds. These would mean dont smoke it, the cigar is ruined with those other types of mold.
Inhaling, yeah cigar smoke is not really meant to be inhaled. Originally cigars or what was rolled like a cigar was used to be smoked and kept lit to keep the mosquitoes at bay while in the tropics by the locals of the area.
Like Tim said pulled into the mouth , taste and mix with a whisky and dont forget to spit occasionally. However I have met some people that do and even met some famous people that do. These people tend to be Old Boys Club tough old grizzled men.
It really comes down to personal preference, taste, experience ( dont be afraid to try different brands ) , availability, research and aging can all play a factor as to what your own personal preference will be.
Cheers Everyone !
Considering uneven burns if you have a very thin pin and stick it in the side that's not burning so the air gets through that helps or let the cigar cool off and then touch it up on the unburned side only.
I was always told to start with Connecticuts and lighter shades of cigars. Smoked like 5 of them and didn't like them at all, almost thought cigars weren't for me. Then I smoked a Tabernacle and realized that I just needed something with a stronger and heartier taste.
💯 % accurate 👌
I don’t even keep cigars long enough for another package from cigar daily to come in. lol.
Turning the unburned side up always works for me, so I don't understand. I turn it up and blow on the tip a few times and it catches up with the rest. .shrugs
I love a Chillin Moose Too and its cheap and so good. Only been smoking for 6 months. Have tried high end Davidoffs but really enjoy my CM
Nah - with an uneven burn, you lick your finger and rub it on the side burning too fast - the moisture will slow it down.
Here’s one I got from Tim the Swanson himself - rotate the cigar in your mouth while lighting it… it’s just silly. Instead, I just move the torch in circles 😂 much easier and intuitive.
I occasionally inhale a puff, generally on more mild cigars, former 2 pack a dayer who dabbled in jazz cabbage. Small puffs can be a nice little headrush
I am a clean slate. I hade my very first cigar yesterday. It was a mayflower cigar. I loved it and want more. So teachers me lol.
It's my dads 60th BD today and I'm honoring him with a "My Father Le Bijou 1922" stick.
sooo. iv used 2 acid c-notes for just their wrapper leaf. (it worked not all will, only do it if its $2 per and for the flavor from the leaf. i did this once, its for special occasions)
Greetings from greece thank you for the great videos there are so helpfull!!!!
Nah you gotta rotate the canoe 😂😂😂
Who typically smoke cigars? Men. What kind of woman smokes a cigar? A confident woman who says @move over boys, I’m joining the club”.
The reason my wife glares at me when I’m outside smoking a cigar, is because she’s probably working and can’t join me. I’m lucky to have someone who encourages my hobbies.
To store your cigars in a humidor, is it best to remove the cellophane wrapper or leave the cigar in the wrapper? Have been told both... 😐
The Sahakians keep theirs intact so up to you…
@@Makaveli2000 we’re not asking how the shakins or whatever do it he’s just asking a simple question so I’ll reply with the simple answer.
If a cigar has the cellophane on in the humidor it just takes longer for it to be acclimated but it honestly doesn’t do anything bad at all it just pretty much delays how long it’ll take to for the cigars to reach the humidity level. I personally leave the “wrapper” on just so I can check the cigars for mold, cracks or holes without having my fingers accidentally damage it, and so I can hand them to other people who want to look and smell them without them grabbing it and disrupting the aging process. In the end it’s all up to you but I would just leave it on.
I got one you can't enjoy a cigar in 30 degree or lower temp I basically smoke in cold Temps and still enjoy yes its better to smoke in the summer time but not everyone lives in enjoyable weather
Smoking in cold weather gives me hiccups frequently, but other than that . . .
I never heard about turning the non burning side up
Cigars and pipe tobacco are very similarly honest with prices. The prices are not because of what you will pay, they are because of the price of production. If you have a 5 dollar cigar then it was easily procured tobacco and an easy process.
I partly disagree on the flipping the cigar so the slow burning side can catch up.
I started turning the slow burning side continuously down!
I have a plethora of different cigars and since I've started doing this, I HAVEN'T HAD A SINGLE CIGAR CANOE👀👀😎
NOT 1. And I'm smoking 4-6 cigars daily.
Luv the show fellas! I'm a new cigar smoker and this show was very informative!
Relaxation is why my wife and I smoke cigars we (I) started a year ago and now that’s how we end our night
The relights were my big one. I am a mom that said goodbye to my profession as a first responder to homeschool. So no way am I tossing a precious stick over an uneven burn. I fix it. If it goes out, I knock off that ash and light her back up! Also "never remove the wrapper". I wish my husband smoked cigars. He hates that I do it.
Does leaving the band on the cigar while you smoke it create the possibility of leeching from the glue and ink on the band?
When I started smoking cigars 30 years ago I asked a guy at the cigar lounge what’s the difference between a 3$ cigar and a 10$ cigar, he told me 7 bux! Most of my EDS are 7 to 9 dollars, it’s about what you like to smoke.
tim, besides yourself & cigars daily, whom else should i watch & learn from?
I'm new to the cigar world, and so far I love it. My question is how long can you store a cigar under perfect conditions?
Indefinitely really, but depends on the cigar. Full flavored cigars probably yield best results at about 6 years in my opinion.
Indefinitely
At home, if no one sees it, I remove the banderole before I cut the cigar. I know there are people who would tar and feather me for it. But I just like holding a bare, original cigar between my fingers. Especially with Short Robustos, where the banderole is already reached after 2cm of embers. Of course, I know that something like this would never be possible in a public lounge...
Man! Wish we could get those cigars mentioned as cheap as that here in the UK.
Just here to say that the statement "storing wine upright will dry out corks" is a total myth.......and would belong in a "Wine Daily" video of similar subject:) Simple physics tells us that the humidity inside the bottle is 100%. Regardless if the liquid is touching the cork. The entire bottle of wine would need to evaporate before a cork could possibly dry out. On the other hand, wine cellar humidity does matter and an arid environment can dry out a cork.....but from the outside.
Good video guys. I enjoyed it.
I was told to rotate the cigar 1/4 turn until the wrapper evened up. There are so many things that make it burn un even wind the wrapper itself..
When I first started I saw a bunch of things saying to start with Connecticut shade wrapper as it is a smoother and more mild cigar. I found that I dislike the flavor profile of the Connecticut for the most part, and it almost it almost drove me away from cigars altogether. I decided to try a Drew estates undercrown Maduro and found I really enjoyed that stick and continued with the hobby.
Yeah. I get the "mild" cigar thing, and it's cool for those that love it. I tried those at first as well. Ended up with a cheap Maduro and it was like: "Oh! This is amazing!"
The Obsidian White noise is a $4 stick and it's better than most $10 cigars I've had. It's one of my favorites right now, probably in my top 10.
I have often seen real plume, the sugar crystals, on very aged pipe tobaccos, it will gather on the paper inlay that is found on top of the tobacco in the can. Big, brownish yet clear, sticky crystals. It has nothing to do with the white, powdery stuff on cigars some people think is plume, and they look nothing alike. The white, powdery stuff is mold.
I think folks ignore the “wrapper to filler ratio”. Try to find similar tobaccos in a 6x60 and a lancero….lancer is have a better ratio and often a more flavorful smoke.
Tim, what is your best way to cut a box cut cigar. Would you use a guillotine cut or is a v cut acceptable on a box cut cigar?
I use a punch for box pressed cigars.
Do cigar boxes have date stamps? I found a 50 ct. box of Punch Rothschilds Vintage 1959 English market selection cigars from a fleamarket vendor selling some estate sale items. I know age doesn't really matter but I kinda hope these weren't made in 1959 because the box smelled a bit moldy and the label seemed to be a bit dated but I'm not sure. Great video! Thanks.
😂🤣 I can't help but continue to turn the cigar as it canoes. I know it does nothing but my brain is like "maybe this time"
Well we used to smoke weed a joint we called it a runner ,and you were just wet your finger with the little bit of spit from your tongue and put it where it's running and it would slow it down and let the rest of the burn catch up so I tried that with my cigar is that okay
I have to come to the table and say thay if you have an uneven burn having it up does work. I do it all the time. It definitely helps. Maybe the wind blows differently in the USA but all i can say is it does work in a pinch.
You need to get an expensive, “engineered” humidor because the cheaper ones don’t have a good seal, are mold traps, etc. Then you get hip to Tupperdors.
I have smoked cigars for a long time and once in a while I try a inhale and I ask myself why the hell did you do that
The biggest misinfo I’ve seen is that the more expensive-the better. Some of my favorite sticks are under $10.
When my cigar is burning uneven and I put the end that's not burning fast on the bottom it does even my cigars .... I always do that.... And it works for me.....