@@mapalochansa9965i am glad americans like you can be fooled easily. people like you are the main reason the politicians in USA rule so long. thanks for ur support to make america great!
China is not de-coupling. It cannot. The Eurozone population is crashing. Their people are now moving into mass retirement. China has now done more trade with the United States, they just did a record breaking $758 billion dollar in single year despite President Trump and President Biden putting tariff on Chinese goods.
You guys keeps on telling yourself that lies...China is way advance in chip production and AI development. Companies like Huawei new graphics card is way faster then NVIDIA. In the last 2 yrs sales of Tesla, Apple and NVIDIA has drop significantly, companies in China and around the Global South start using Chinese Homemade products which is more affordable and best quality.
Sorry, only one company that is Dutch makes the machine that etches the silicon wafers for the microchips and Chinese cannot buy it. The Germans make the lens for that machine and the Chinese cannot buy it. 85% of worlds Silicon comes from the United States so we control the world supply of Silicon to make microchip wafers.
China is not a threat to flood the world with cheap microchips. It a total scam Xi Jinping is a Mao's he doesn't understand "Supply Chains and Logistics" and no one in China is going to tell him for fear of being arrested or executed.
@@HellBot-gi5sisorry but your info is outdated The standard that is set on the Chinese is their lithography machine needs to be 100% homemade and their semiconductor chips need to be 100% homemade Which they are already there if not very close to it ASML imports 85% of its parts from around the world 👇 China’s Homegrown CPU and Lithography Machine for 7nm Chips Conquer New Heights Aug 2, 2023 Shanghai Micro Electronics has developed advanced 28nm immersion lithography machines domestically in China, bringing them closer to 7nm chip manufacturing capabilities. Medium
@@DW-op7ly You see that you don't understand America uses the entire world to make Microchips. Where China is trying to do it all by itself which it doesn't have the technology and manufacturing to do so.
Well China has breakthrough on making sub 10nm chips with DUV and multiple patterning. This allows Huawei to make 5G SOC and AI chips again, resulting in both Apple and Nvidia losing market shares in China and lowered their prices to respond. How was this not a good investment?
One side is busy blocking, suppressing, sanctioning and resorting to ill-talking. The other side is busy working hard and getting things done. The former is the mentality of sore losers. The latter the mentality of winners.
For those saying we have to stand for Taiwan because it represents freedom. How do you explain US foreign policy having a rich history of overthrowing democracies and a rich history of siding with non-democracies?
@@TheJohnnyJohnny What's a naughty democracy? An elected official that doesn't serve US interests? And are you going to say there are good non-democracy nations next?
@@yumyumgimmesumlast I checked the USA was causing the demise or assisting in causing the demise of people in 20 countries in just Africa alone Simply because the religion these people practice is deemed too strict for Americans to like to Govern that African Nation While ironically supporting Saudi Arabia (who the Americans trade protection and weapons in exchange for oil) whose dominant Wah habism is exported and taught in Madrassa schools in Pakistan. Learning that strict religious extre mism Who ironically supplied the Tali ban with recruits that recently pushed America out of Afghanistan
The best example is Iran. The US helped overthrown their democratically elected government to install a dictator king to replace it , for the sake of controling their oil resources. The coup end with failure and the mullahs took power. They created a hostile enemy.
Not completion with US. China accepted the American challenge to de-couple. Western countries stop exporting chips to China. China only humbly obliged. Win-win situation.
China have set up an investment fund to boost the development of the semiconductor industry as China seeks to strengthen self-reliance in critical technologies amid growing protectionism and restrictions by the US. The fund underscores China's firm resolve and confidence in boosting the semiconductor industry, and it will accelerate technological breakthroughs, especially in the manufacturing of advanced chips. The fund is also expected to finance research and development projects that enhance AI capabilities using existing chipmaking technology. In addition to supporting the development of chip manufacturing equipment subject to U.S. restrictions, the fund is expected to aid major Chinese semiconductor companies' moves to rapidly switch from international to domestic suppliers for silicon wafers, chemicals and industrial gases by providing financing to Chinese makers of these products. The US force China into the corner in total capitulation and to destroy China and to prevent China from competing with the US. China is fighting for survival in order to overcome US multiple sanctions and total destruction and obliteration in core high-tech technology business. The US multiple sanctions is a deliberate attempt by the US to obliterate China from the highly advanced technology industry. The US chip sanctions has long been a diplomatic and economic tool used by US seeking to influence others to submit to US demand and interest. The US aims to destroys China’s capability in sustaining China’s progress in chip manufacturing. The US aims to disrupt China’s strategic planning and hinder its progress in the semiconductor sector. US imposed economic war with economic sanctions on chip technology to China. This catalyzed a quick respond for China to developed its own independent research and development in chip sector in key technology and become self-sufficient in the production of chip technology. The US wanted to destroys China and its economy in order to prevent China from competing with the US. The US Bureau of Industry and Security issued a document with its 139 pages of dense bureaucratic jargon and minute technical detail is a declaration of economic war on China. The US government announced its intention to cripple China’s ability to produce or even purchase the highest-end chips. The US wanted to impact China’s A.I. industry and the semiconductor stuff is the means to that end. China was cut off not just from importing the most advanced chips, but also from acquiring the inputs to develop its own advanced semiconductors and supercomputers, and even from the U.S.-origin components, technology and software that could be used to produce semiconductor-manufacturing equipment to eventually build their own fabs to make their own chips. After 2023, Oct. 7, the US forbids any persons to engage in any activity that supports the production of advanced semiconductors in China, whether by maintaining or repairing equipment in a Chinese fab, offering advice or even authorizing deliveries to a Chinese semiconductor manufacturer. For China, the race for technological self-sufficiency presents perhaps a greater challenge than any the country has faced. The Oct. 7 export controls, while crippling China’s advanced chip-making ability for the foreseeable future, may end up spurring long-term growth. Now Chinese companies must innovate together or die. US attempts to curtail China’s technological rise enabling China to endure the economic hardships imposed by the sanctions into a catalyst for indigenous innovation inadvertently. The latest addition to the investment fund comes as the US continues to impose restrictions on sales of chips and related products to China, in an attempt to contain China's technological rise. China strong support for the semiconductor industry conveys confidence to the entire industry, indicating that China has strong financial resources and technical support, and also has firm determination in terms of chip independence. Continuing to convey confidence and determination is crucial to the development of the industry. China's chip industry has not stopped developing but has instead grown rapidly. China continued increase in investment will further enhance confidence in the industry.
It just propaganda China will never become a leading microchip producer. The quality checks on the silicon wafers was done by Americans or westerns no that they are gone China cannot produce high quality microchips.
Also, 85% of the Silicon comes form one mine in world that North Caroline that in United States. The lens that are made etch the microchips come from Germany. The Dutch are one that that make the Lithographic machines that etch the microchip wafers. Now America has sanction the Chinese they cannot buy the lithographic machine to make microchips.
@@HellBot-gi5si China is the world's largest silicon producer, with a production volume estimated at 6.6 million metric tons in 2023. The second-largest producer of this metalloid was Russia, which produced 620,000 metric tons in the same year. Statista
@@HellBot-gi5siyou are barking up the wrong tree it’s not just Silicon that goes into semiconductors At best America if they get the ability to refine heavy rare earths???? That will go to the US military no to you American consumers The Chinese had “virtually” no chip making ability/foundries 6 years ago thanks to the USA who did the job for the Chinese Where their Government was trying to get their people to switch to homegrown chips before the sanctions China is now expected to take over those legacy chip markets If the USA was smarter instead of cutting off China from semiconductor chips and equipment for manufacturing They should have themselves and their allies, lowered prices even more, and dump even more chips on China Instead their idea was to force the hand of Chinese people at the time content with cheap imported chips. Hope they could not innovate When there is now a 7 volume 27 book series on what China invented first that says the world copied from them And China leads the world in 37 of the 44 critical technologies of the future 🙄 At one point China was importing over 300 billion in chips a year Now they will probably be exporting around 200 billion dollars worth of their own homegrown chips per year, within the products they export 👇 How Close Is China to World Dominance in Legacy Semiconductors? 27-02-2024 | By Paul Whytock * Bread and Butter Technology Obviously, China would like to be a major player when it comes to high-end sophisticated semiconductor devices, but that doesn’t mean they are not interested in the bread-and-butter end of the market, particularly when it comes to legacy products. In fact, they are very interested in the legacy market, and there are some very good reasons why. Legacy devices make up a huge amount of global chip sales. Most chips manufactured today are not advanced chips but legacy chips, and around 71% of devices * China's Aggressive Expansion in the Semiconductor Industry In September 2023, Reuters reported that China was set to launch a new state-backed fund aimed at raising about €43bn to support its chip industry, and according to research analysts, the Rhodium Group, in less than ten years, China is expected to domestically add nearly as much 50-180nm wafer manufacturing capacity as the rest of the World. The views of industry analysts and observers vary, but generally speaking, it’s thought that 22 wafer fabs are being built in the country, and there is an overall plan to create a total of 30 new wafer fabrication plants. Many of these will concentrate on the production of legacy devices. As for market share, industry intelligence gatherers Trendforce believe China’s legacy chip manufacturing base could provide as much as 30% of the global demand for older devices. ElectroPages
$47 billion is not a lot of money ?? Well, if America is giving a way $500 billion for a war, no one wants, and another $400 billion to Israel, You guys must be very well loaded. unfortunately for the American people the tax is massive, Big Mac is costing $18 and a car garage $1 million, to pay for that.
The transistor density of Samsung's 3nm chips is between TSMC's 5nm and 7nm, so it is not a true 3nm technology. Nano is just a business term; it does not represent its true computing power. Only transistor density is related to computing power. Since China has yet to release detailed data, its 5nm technology may be worse than TSMC's 10nm technology.
Nvidia's AI Graphics Card could be employed to block copyrighted video game content on platforms like TH-cam, Twitch, Google, and Yahoo. This measure aims to prevent players and viewers from accessing game endings without purchasing the game, thus protecting intellectual property rights. This initiative, driven by Biden's chip act, is part of a broader effort to combat video game piracy on streaming platforms. Nvidia is now mandated to use AI to block unauthorized streams, screen recordings, or live views in real-time, including those by overseas entities or individuals engaged in corporate espionage.
Not really you see in order to make microchips the silicon wafer must be 99.9997% pure. 85% of that highly pure silicon comes from one mine in the US State of North Carolina. So China will never be a major producer or threat to the United States on microchips.
Your info is outdated The Chinese had “virtually” no chip making ability/foundries 6 years ago thanks to the USA who did the job for the Chinese Where their Government was trying to get their people to switch to homegrown chips before the sanctions China is now expected to take over those legacy chip markets If the USA was smarter instead of cutting off China from semiconductor chips and equipment for manufacturing They should have themselves and their allies, lowered prices even more, and dump even more chips on China Instead their idea was to force the hand of Chinese people at the time content with cheap imported chips. Hope they could not innovate When there is now a 7 volume 27 book series on what China invented first that says the world copied from them And China leads the world in 37 of the 44 critical technologies of the future 🙄 At one point China was importing over 300 billion in chips a year Now they will probably be exporting around 200 billion dollars worth of their own homegrown chips per year, within the products they export 👇 How Close Is China to World Dominance in Legacy Semiconductors? 27-02-2024 | By Paul Whytock * Bread and Butter Technology Obviously, China would like to be a major player when it comes to high-end sophisticated semiconductor devices, but that doesn’t mean they are not interested in the bread-and-butter end of the market, particularly when it comes to legacy products. In fact, they are very interested in the legacy market, and there are some very good reasons why. Legacy devices make up a huge amount of global chip sales. Most chips manufactured today are not advanced chips but legacy chips, and around 71% of devices * China's Aggressive Expansion in the Semiconductor Industry In September 2023, Reuters reported that China was set to launch a new state-backed fund aimed at raising about €43bn to support its chip industry, and according to research analysts, the Rhodium Group, in less than ten years, China is expected to domestically add nearly as much 50-180nm wafer manufacturing capacity as the rest of the World. The views of industry analysts and observers vary, but generally speaking, it’s thought that 22 wafer fabs are being built in the country, and there is an overall plan to create a total of 30 new wafer fabrication plants. Many of these will concentrate on the production of legacy devices. As for market share, industry intelligence gatherers Trendforce believe China’s legacy chip manufacturing base could provide as much as 30% of the global demand for older devices. ElectroPages
It not only that making microchips is one of the hardest things to do. There over 6,000 companies in the supply chain world wide to make a microchip. If one those companies falls out then you can't make microchips in China.
@@Madame702 seriously where did you come from under a rock? The Chinese had “virtually” no chip making ability/foundries 6 years ago thanks to the USA who did the job for the Chinese Where their Government was trying to get their people to switch to homegrown chips before the sanctions China is now expected to take over those legacy chip markets If the USA was smarter instead of cutting off China from semiconductor chips and equipment for manufacturing They should have themselves and their allies, lowered prices even more, and dump even more chips on China Instead their idea was to force the hand of Chinese people at the time content with cheap imported chips. Hope they could not innovate When there is now a 7 volume 27 book series on what China invented first that says the world copied from them And China leads the world in 37 of the 44 critical technologies of the future 🙄 At one point China was importing over 300 billion in chips a year Now they will probably be exporting around 200 billion dollars worth of their own homegrown chips per year, within the products they export 👇 How Close Is China to World Dominance in Legacy Semiconductors? 27-02-2024 | By Paul Whytock * Bread and Butter Technology Obviously, China would like to be a major player when it comes to high-end sophisticated semiconductor devices, but that doesn’t mean they are not interested in the bread-and-butter end of the market, particularly when it comes to legacy products. In fact, they are very interested in the legacy market, and there are some very good reasons why. Legacy devices make up a huge amount of global chip sales. Most chips manufactured today are not advanced chips but legacy chips, and around 71% of devices * China's Aggressive Expansion in the Semiconductor Industry In September 2023, Reuters reported that China was set to launch a new state-backed fund aimed at raising about €43bn to support its chip industry, and according to research analysts, the Rhodium Group, in less than ten years, China is expected to domestically add nearly as much 50-180nm wafer manufacturing capacity as the rest of the World. The views of industry analysts and observers vary, but generally speaking, it’s thought that 22 wafer fabs are being built in the country, and there is an overall plan to create a total of 30 new wafer fabrication plants. Many of these will concentrate on the production of legacy devices. As for market share, industry intelligence gatherers Trendforce believe China’s legacy chip manufacturing base could provide as much as 30% of the global demand for older devices. ElectroPages
China, Japan, South Korea couldn't even make Nvidia Chip clones...it's already advance. Did you know PS 5 can do 10 Teraflops? some say it's 8.9 teraflops after booting OS.
Nvidia cuts China AI chip prices amid competition from Huawei- Reuters Among the three, the H20, which is the most powerful, was seeing subdued demand in China, and in some cases, was being sold at an over 10% discount to a similar offering from Huawei- the Ascend 910B, the Reuters report said. The Ascend 910B was also seeing substantially more orders than the H20 from state-backed enterprises, Reuters said, citing limited government data. This came following a mandate from Beijing for state enterprises to use China-made silicon. The 910B is the most advanced Chinese AI chip, and has shot up in popularity in the country following U.S. sanctions that attempted to block China’s access to the latest AI advancements. Its popularity in China presents more headwinds for Nvidia’s business in the country. The chipmaker has struggled to maintain its foothold in Chinese markets following the U.S. sanctions. During its first quarter earnings this week, the company warned that China was becoming an increasingly competitive market, and that the firm’s data center revenue in China fell “significantly.” Steep discounts on the H20 also present more margin pressure for Nvidia. Finance Yahoo
NVIDIA H20 chip faces competition from Huawei Written by Rebecca Uffindell Mon 5 Feb 2024 Reuters reported NVIDIA priced orders for H20 distributors in China in a range of £9,531 ($12,000) to £11,914 ($15,000) per card. Some distributors have promoted the NVIDIA chips at a markup toward the lower end of the range, around £12,167 ($15,320). In contrast, Huawei’s 910B is priced at about £13,388 ($16,856), citing sources familiar with the matter. Distributors are reportedly selling NVIDIA H20 servers pre-configured with eight AI chips for £156,560 ($196,745). This marked a significant price drop compared to servers equipped with eight H800 chips, which sold for around £223,657 ($281,065) when launched a year ago. The specifications for the NVIDIA H20 chip indicated it is less powerful than the Huawei Ascend 910B in key areas. According to a source, one example of where the H20 appears to lag is the 910B in its floating point 32-bit (FP32) performance. This is a metric that measures how rapidly a chip can process common tasks. The H20 chip’s FP32 performance is reported to be less than half of its rival’s capability. However, the H20 appears to outperform the 910B in interconnect speed, which is crucial for transferring data between chips. This advantage allows the H20 to stay competitive with the 910B in applications needing numerous chips linked together to function as a system. Before the US introduced the chip export restrictions to China, NVIDIA had a 90% market share in China. However, NVIDIA now faces competition from rivals domestic to China. Huawei’s 910B chip is currently seen as China’s top AI offering, gaining popularity amid concerns about restricted access to NVIDIA products due to US sanctions. Techerati
It doesn't matter in order to make microchips your silicon wafer must be 99.9997% pure. Only one mine in the US State of North Carolina produces such silicon. So 85% of worlds silicon comes from that mine. China does make synthetic silicon but it is at 10 times the cost. So it not cost effect to take on the United States.
@@Madame702 China’s Homegrown CPU and Lithography Machine for 7nm Chips Conquer New Heights Aug 2, 2023 Shanghai Micro Electronics has developed advanced 28nm immersion lithography machines domestically in China, bringing them closer to 7nm chip manufacturing capabilities. Medium
@@Madame702 China Starts First Mass-Production of Super-Pure Silicon LIAO SHUMIN DATE: JUN 07 2018 The development of domestic electronic-grade polycrystalline silicon producers is a key part of efforts in China to reduce the integrated circuit sector's dependency on imports of the material in the long-term. YicaiGlobal
China is at 14 nm with US at 7 nm One version behind, but 48billion maybe a game changer. We may see in 5 years chinese high tech 5 nm chips flooding the market.
China can only make 90nm chips on its own. It did get some deep ultra violate lithographic machine which old technology to make a brute force 25nm chips for the smart phones but it really eats up your battery.
What Xi Jinping found out is that Americans are one's in China that did the quality checks on the silicon wafers for the microchips at every stage of the process. Without Americans doing the checks China cannot make the AI microchips which are 10nm or less.
Also, 85% of the 99.9997% pure silicon to make microchips and fake boobs come from one mine in the US State of North Carolina. So at anytime American cut off your supply of microchips or fake boobs any time they feel like it.
Nvidia's chip technology is too advanced to copy, and the US is fiercely protective of its intellectual property. In response, they’ve fortified their defenses with measures like moats, castle walls, armed security guards, and super passwords. 😂 Nvidia, alongside TSMC, has become a trillion-dollar company on the stock exchange, with their stock prices continuously soaring. Countries across the globe, including African nations, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Brazil, and China, all need Nvidia chips. As a result, Nvidia is evolving into a multinational corporation with financial power surpassing that of the Chinese government and military, and even the Russian military. In response, China has decided to create its own video game chip, leading to a crackdown on GAOKAO students and illegal immigrants to prevent them from leaving the country. The Chinese government is also restricting the movement of its nationals to ensure they stay within China.
Here the thing you need to understand. The Lithographic machine that etch the microchips are made by the Dutch and we have sanction China so they cannot buy the machine. The lens used by that machine is made by the Germans and China cannot buy the lens. America controls 85% of the silicon it comes from one mine in North Caroline which means we control the world supply of silicon.
But the research finds that China leads the U.S. by a few other measures, including being ahead of the U.S. in producing top-tier AI researchers, based on undergraduate degrees, with China at 47% and the U.S. lagging with 18%. Additionally, among top-tier AI researchers working at U.S. institutions, 38% have China as their country of origin, compared with 37% from the U.S. CNBC
US is desperate, it can not contain china, huawei just got record high profit , and huawei just produced its 5nm chip , and sold more than 20 million fone in 7 month, while samsung only produce memory chips, not CPU, d,mzz , and samsung has lost most of its market share in china because of many chinese chip manufacturers produce memories ships
What are you talking about? It's Samsung that asked to meet Chinese pm. South Korea has run a trade deficit with china, making it for the first time in 31 years.
US never mention its own overcapacity of printing US dollars.
Do you mean toilet papers?
Fake news
China extend 47bil chip funding
US extend 95bil war funding.
Make America Great Always
😂
China has spent a total of 380 billion
@@mapalochansa9965USA nearly a trillions to create more wars and turmoil in the world
@@mapalochansa9965 for their science research, better than 95B investment for wars
@@mapalochansa9965Afghanistan war alone cost Americans 2 trillions. Let alone other regions, Iraq , Libia, Syria…..
@@mapalochansa9965i am glad americans like you can be fooled easily. people like you are the main reason the politicians in USA rule so long. thanks for ur support to make america great!
Apparently the reporter is in Hong Kong. Why did she say Beijing?
It’s Hong kong
She used to be based in Beijing.
It is HK taxi in background 😮
Karena jika tidak berbohong akan dosa terhadap kebenatan 😂😂
That's not China mainland, that's Hongkong. U fooling around, huh CNBC ?
She travels quite often in China.
They can’t even get their facts straight 😂
in a few years, cnbc news: cn overcapacity on semiconductors
EUV technology is difficult, but by no means insurmountable. I give them 5 years to build a viable EUV machine.
Interesting, China actually started the decoupling. How come the Chinese is always one step ahead of us?
I think they just reacting to the US chip sanctions on them.
言而有信，你们要脱钩我们就积极配合，毕竟面对美国客户我们会尽量做的更好
@@user-xe4db4nx4g 哈哈哈哈……这是怎样的服务精神
China is not de-coupling. It cannot. The Eurozone population is crashing. Their people are now moving into mass retirement. China has now done more trade with the United States, they just did a record breaking $758 billion dollar in single year despite President Trump and President Biden putting tariff on Chinese goods.
You guys keeps on telling yourself that lies...China is way advance in chip production and AI development. Companies like Huawei new graphics card is way faster then NVIDIA. In the last 2 yrs sales of Tesla, Apple and NVIDIA has drop significantly, companies in China and around the Global South start using Chinese Homemade products which is more affordable and best quality.
Sorry, only one company that is Dutch makes the machine that etches the silicon wafers for the microchips and Chinese cannot buy it. The Germans make the lens for that machine and the Chinese cannot buy it. 85% of worlds Silicon comes from the United States so we control the world supply of Silicon to make microchip wafers.
China is not a threat to flood the world with cheap microchips. It a total scam Xi Jinping is a Mao's he doesn't understand "Supply Chains and Logistics" and no one in China is going to tell him for fear of being arrested or executed.
@@HellBot-gi5sisorry but your info is outdated
The standard that is set on the Chinese is their lithography machine needs to be 100% homemade and their semiconductor chips need to be 100% homemade
Which they are already there if not very close to it
ASML imports 85% of its parts from around the world
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China’s Homegrown CPU and Lithography Machine for 7nm Chips Conquer New Heights
Aug 2, 2023
Shanghai Micro Electronics has developed advanced 28nm immersion lithography machines domestically in China, bringing them closer to 7nm chip manufacturing capabilities.
Medium
@@DW-op7ly Sorry DW but not only do you not know how to make the lithographic machines you don't know how to do the quality checks on silicon wafers.
@@DW-op7ly You see that you don't understand America uses the entire world to make Microchips. Where China is trying to do it all by itself which it doesn't have the technology and manufacturing to do so.
Well China has breakthrough on making sub 10nm chips with DUV and multiple patterning. This allows Huawei to make 5G SOC and AI chips again, resulting in both Apple and Nvidia losing market shares in China and lowered their prices to respond. How was this not a good investment?
The white lady cant believe it 😂
She is one of anti-China reporters in CNBC channel.
One side is busy blocking, suppressing, sanctioning and resorting to ill-talking.
The other side is busy working hard and getting things done.
The former is the mentality of sore losers. The latter the mentality of winners.
Murican Pride ! We invest in UKR and Izzy defense with hundreds of Billions… and worry about Chyna over capacity?! Ummm yeah that’s the ticket 😂😂😂
For those saying we have to stand for Taiwan because it represents freedom. How do you explain US foreign policy having a rich history of overthrowing democracies and a rich history of siding with non-democracies?
Taiwan stole show, only bcos of China. Nothing else
Those are naughty democracies. Not the type of democracy we needed. Not good for the free world.
@@TheJohnnyJohnny What's a naughty democracy? An elected official that doesn't serve US interests?
And are you going to say there are good non-democracy nations next?
@@yumyumgimmesumlast I checked the USA was causing the demise or assisting in causing the demise of people in 20 countries in just Africa alone
Simply because the religion these people practice is deemed too strict for Americans to like to Govern that African Nation
While ironically supporting Saudi Arabia (who the Americans trade protection and weapons in exchange for oil)
whose dominant Wah habism is exported and taught in Madrassa schools in Pakistan. Learning that strict religious extre mism
Who ironically supplied the Tali ban with recruits that recently pushed America out of Afghanistan
The best example is Iran. The US helped overthrown their democratically elected government to install a dictator king to replace it , for the sake of controling their oil resources. The coup end with failure and the mullahs took power. They created a hostile enemy.
That's Hong Kong. Not Beijing. Why you lie.
Better than war
CCP been spending on military too
@@jeremytine of course, they need to defend while accelerating on their economy, but not to feed war in other country
@@dimsky5355 by defending you mean gearing up to invade Taiwan and selling to Russia for their invasion. 😉
Not completion with US. China accepted the American challenge to de-couple. Western countries stop exporting chips to China. China only humbly obliged. Win-win situation.
In fact, China is building factories in Mexico to sell into the American markets.
China have set up an investment fund to boost the development of the semiconductor industry as China seeks to strengthen self-reliance in critical technologies amid growing protectionism and restrictions by the US.
The fund underscores China's firm resolve and confidence in boosting the semiconductor industry, and it will accelerate technological breakthroughs, especially in the manufacturing of advanced chips.
The fund is also expected to finance research and development projects that enhance AI capabilities using existing chipmaking technology.
In addition to supporting the development of chip manufacturing equipment subject to U.S. restrictions, the fund is expected to aid major Chinese semiconductor companies' moves to rapidly switch from international to domestic suppliers for silicon wafers, chemicals and industrial gases by providing financing to Chinese makers of these products.
The US force China into the corner in total capitulation and to destroy China and to prevent China from competing with the US.
China is fighting for survival in order to overcome US multiple sanctions and total destruction and obliteration in core high-tech technology business.
The US multiple sanctions is a deliberate attempt by the US to obliterate China from the highly advanced technology industry.
The US chip sanctions has long been a diplomatic and economic tool used by US seeking to influence others to submit to US demand and interest.
The US aims to destroys China’s capability in sustaining China’s progress in chip manufacturing.
The US aims to disrupt China’s strategic planning and hinder its progress in the semiconductor sector.
US imposed economic war with economic sanctions on chip technology to China.
This catalyzed a quick respond for China to developed its own independent research and development in chip sector in key technology and become self-sufficient in the production of chip technology.
The US wanted to destroys China and its economy in order to prevent China from competing with the US.
The US Bureau of Industry and Security issued a document with its 139 pages of dense bureaucratic jargon and minute technical detail is a declaration of economic war on China.
The US government announced its intention to cripple China’s ability to produce or even purchase the highest-end chips.
The US wanted to impact China’s A.I. industry and the semiconductor stuff is the means to that end.
China was cut off not just from importing the most advanced chips, but also from acquiring the inputs to develop its own advanced semiconductors and supercomputers, and even from the U.S.-origin components, technology and software that could be used to produce semiconductor-manufacturing equipment to eventually build their own fabs to make their own chips.
After 2023, Oct. 7, the US forbids any persons to engage in any activity that supports the production of advanced semiconductors in China, whether by maintaining or repairing equipment in a Chinese fab, offering advice or even authorizing deliveries to a Chinese semiconductor manufacturer.
For China, the race for technological self-sufficiency presents perhaps a greater challenge than any the country has faced.
The Oct. 7 export controls, while crippling China’s advanced chip-making ability for the foreseeable future, may end up spurring long-term growth.
Now Chinese companies must innovate together or die.
US attempts to curtail China’s technological rise enabling China to endure the economic hardships imposed by the sanctions into a catalyst for indigenous innovation inadvertently.
The latest addition to the investment fund comes as the US continues to impose restrictions on sales of chips and related products to China, in an attempt to contain China's technological rise.
China strong support for the semiconductor industry conveys confidence to the entire industry, indicating that China has strong financial resources and technical support, and also has firm determination in terms of chip independence.
Continuing to convey confidence and determination is crucial to the development of the industry.
China's chip industry has not stopped developing but has instead grown rapidly.
China continued increase in investment will further enhance confidence in the industry.
Couldn't have said it better
It just propaganda China will never become a leading microchip producer. The quality checks on the silicon wafers was done by Americans or westerns no that they are gone China cannot produce high quality microchips.
Also, 85% of the Silicon comes form one mine in world that North Caroline that in United States. The lens that are made etch the microchips come from Germany. The Dutch are one that that make the Lithographic machines that etch the microchip wafers. Now America has sanction the Chinese they cannot buy the lithographic machine to make microchips.
@@HellBot-gi5si
China is the world's largest silicon producer, with a production volume estimated at 6.6 million metric tons in 2023. The second-largest producer of this metalloid was Russia, which produced 620,000 metric tons in the same year.
Statista
@@HellBot-gi5siyou are barking up the wrong tree it’s not just Silicon that goes into semiconductors
At best America if they get the ability to refine heavy rare earths????
That will go to the US military no to you American consumers
The Chinese had “virtually” no chip making ability/foundries 6 years ago
thanks to the USA who did the job for the Chinese
Where their Government was trying to get their people to switch to homegrown chips before the sanctions
China is now expected to take over those legacy chip markets
If the USA was smarter instead of cutting off China from semiconductor chips and equipment for manufacturing
They should have themselves and their allies, lowered prices even more, and dump even more chips on China
Instead their idea was to force the hand of Chinese people at the time content with cheap imported chips.
Hope they could not innovate
When there is now a 7 volume 27 book series on what China invented first that says the world copied from them
And China leads the world in 37 of the 44 critical technologies of the future 🙄
At one point China was importing over 300 billion in chips a year
Now they will probably be exporting around 200 billion dollars worth of their own homegrown chips per year, within the products they export
👇
How Close Is China to World Dominance in Legacy Semiconductors? 27-02-2024 | By Paul Whytock
* Bread and Butter Technology
Obviously, China would like to be a major player when it comes to high-end sophisticated semiconductor devices, but that doesn’t mean they are not interested in the bread-and-butter end of the market, particularly when it comes to legacy products.
In fact, they are very interested in the legacy market, and there are some very good reasons why.
Legacy devices make up a huge amount of global chip sales. Most chips manufactured today are not advanced chips but legacy chips, and around 71% of devices
* China's Aggressive Expansion in the Semiconductor Industry
In September 2023, Reuters reported that China was set to launch a new state-backed fund aimed at raising about €43bn to support its chip industry, and according to research analysts, the Rhodium Group, in less than ten years, China is expected to domestically add nearly as much 50-180nm wafer manufacturing capacity as the rest of the World.
The views of industry analysts and observers vary, but generally speaking, it’s thought that 22 wafer fabs are being built in the country, and there is an overall plan to create a total of 30 new wafer fabrication plants.
Many of these will concentrate on the production of legacy devices.
As for market share, industry intelligence gatherers
Trendforce believe China’s legacy chip manufacturing base could provide as much as 30% of the global demand for older devices.
ElectroPages
Why on earth do they have a studio on the street so that we have to watch idiots making stupid signs outside?
Both are idiots. Inside the studio and outside
so what? they use their own money, invest in their own country, for their own companies.
More sanctions! More sanctions! More sanctions!
Might as well say more inflation for us consumers.
The US is over use it paper toilets........!!!!!!!!
To no one's surprise.
The more they spread or sales of their products the more they will occupy properties
47 billion is not a lot of money
$47 billion is not a lot of money ?? Well, if America is giving a way $500 billion for a war, no one wants, and another $400 billion to Israel, You guys must be very well loaded. unfortunately for the American people the tax is massive, Big Mac is costing $18 and a car garage $1 million, to pay for that.
Elon alone has way more than that
May not seem much in US term, but that is quite a lot for China.
@@herrwolf5184 if you divide it with their population, it's just so small for China.
@@Liboch I don't think technology scales with population.
The transistor density of Samsung's 3nm chips is between TSMC's 5nm and 7nm, so it is not a true 3nm technology. Nano is just a business term; it does not represent its true computing power. Only transistor density is related to computing power.
Since China has yet to release detailed data, its 5nm technology may be worse than TSMC's 10nm technology.
Nvidia's AI Graphics Card could be employed to block copyrighted video game content on platforms like TH-cam, Twitch, Google, and Yahoo. This measure aims to prevent players and viewers from accessing game endings without purchasing the game, thus protecting intellectual property rights. This initiative, driven by Biden's chip act, is part of a broader effort to combat video game piracy on streaming platforms. Nvidia is now mandated to use AI to block unauthorized streams, screen recordings, or live views in real-time, including those by overseas entities or individuals engaged in corporate espionage.
What happens if China can manufacture advanced semiconductors? A frightening thought indeed 😅
Then you'll be able to get everything in one tenth of price you pay now: phones, PCs, TVs, cars... Why frightened?
Not really you see in order to make microchips the silicon wafer must be 99.9997% pure. 85% of that highly pure silicon comes from one mine in the US State of North Carolina. So China will never be a major producer or threat to the United States on microchips.
Now China does make synectic silicon but at 10 times the cost of mining it. So China will never be cost competitive as well.
China never disappoints the world.
is does when it comes to human rights 😂
@jeremytine How are your two fathers doing?😅🤣😂😂😅😅🤣🤣🤣
@@Seven.Heavenly.Sins.666 weak
@@jeremytine Three men is a crowd😅🤣😂🤣😂😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
License julio yglesia
Thanks to the United States for giving China the opportunity to rise in chips.😂
US over military capacity
throwing money at the problem isnt the solution when all previous attempts have failed due to serious corruption within the industry & the government.
Your info is outdated
The Chinese had “virtually” no chip making ability/foundries 6 years ago
thanks to the USA who did the job for the Chinese
Where their Government was trying to get their people to switch to homegrown chips before the sanctions
China is now expected to take over those legacy chip markets
If the USA was smarter instead of cutting off China from semiconductor chips and equipment for manufacturing
They should have themselves and their allies, lowered prices even more, and dump even more chips on China
Instead their idea was to force the hand of Chinese people at the time content with cheap imported chips.
Hope they could not innovate
When there is now a 7 volume 27 book series on what China invented first that says the world copied from them
And China leads the world in 37 of the 44 critical technologies of the future 🙄
At one point China was importing over 300 billion in chips a year
Now they will probably be exporting around 200 billion dollars worth of their own homegrown chips per year, within the products they export
👇
How Close Is China to World Dominance in Legacy Semiconductors? 27-02-2024 | By Paul Whytock
* Bread and Butter Technology
Obviously, China would like to be a major player when it comes to high-end sophisticated semiconductor devices, but that doesn’t mean they are not interested in the bread-and-butter end of the market, particularly when it comes to legacy products.
In fact, they are very interested in the legacy market, and there are some very good reasons why.
Legacy devices make up a huge amount of global chip sales. Most chips manufactured today are not advanced chips but legacy chips, and around 71% of devices
* China's Aggressive Expansion in the Semiconductor Industry
In September 2023, Reuters reported that China was set to launch a new state-backed fund aimed at raising about €43bn to support its chip industry, and according to research analysts, the Rhodium Group, in less than ten years, China is expected to domestically add nearly as much 50-180nm wafer manufacturing capacity as the rest of the World.
The views of industry analysts and observers vary, but generally speaking, it’s thought that 22 wafer fabs are being built in the country, and there is an overall plan to create a total of 30 new wafer fabrication plants.
Many of these will concentrate on the production of legacy devices.
As for market share, industry intelligence gatherers
Trendforce believe China’s legacy chip manufacturing base could provide as much as 30% of the global demand for older devices.
ElectroPages
It not only that making microchips is one of the hardest things to do. There over 6,000 companies in the supply chain world wide to make a microchip. If one those companies falls out then you can't make microchips in China.
@@Madame702 seriously where did you come from under a rock?
The Chinese had “virtually” no chip making ability/foundries 6 years ago
thanks to the USA who did the job for the Chinese
Where their Government was trying to get their people to switch to homegrown chips before the sanctions
China is now expected to take over those legacy chip markets
If the USA was smarter instead of cutting off China from semiconductor chips and equipment for manufacturing
They should have themselves and their allies, lowered prices even more, and dump even more chips on China
Instead their idea was to force the hand of Chinese people at the time content with cheap imported chips.
Hope they could not innovate
When there is now a 7 volume 27 book series on what China invented first that says the world copied from them
And China leads the world in 37 of the 44 critical technologies of the future 🙄
At one point China was importing over 300 billion in chips a year
Now they will probably be exporting around 200 billion dollars worth of their own homegrown chips per year, within the products they export
👇
How Close Is China to World Dominance in Legacy Semiconductors? 27-02-2024 | By Paul Whytock
* Bread and Butter Technology
Obviously, China would like to be a major player when it comes to high-end sophisticated semiconductor devices, but that doesn’t mean they are not interested in the bread-and-butter end of the market, particularly when it comes to legacy products.
In fact, they are very interested in the legacy market, and there are some very good reasons why.
Legacy devices make up a huge amount of global chip sales. Most chips manufactured today are not advanced chips but legacy chips, and around 71% of devices
* China's Aggressive Expansion in the Semiconductor Industry
In September 2023, Reuters reported that China was set to launch a new state-backed fund aimed at raising about €43bn to support its chip industry, and according to research analysts, the Rhodium Group, in less than ten years, China is expected to domestically add nearly as much 50-180nm wafer manufacturing capacity as the rest of the World.
The views of industry analysts and observers vary, but generally speaking, it’s thought that 22 wafer fabs are being built in the country, and there is an overall plan to create a total of 30 new wafer fabrication plants.
Many of these will concentrate on the production of legacy devices.
As for market share, industry intelligence gatherers
Trendforce believe China’s legacy chip manufacturing base could provide as much as 30% of the global demand for older devices.
ElectroPages
China stocks vroom vroom
China, Japan, South Korea couldn't even make Nvidia Chip clones...it's already advance. Did you know PS 5 can do 10 Teraflops? some say it's 8.9 teraflops after booting OS.
Nvidia cuts China AI chip prices amid competition from Huawei-
Reuters
Among the three, the H20, which is the most powerful, was seeing subdued demand in China, and in some cases, was being sold at an over 10% discount to a similar offering from Huawei- the Ascend 910B, the Reuters report said.
The Ascend 910B was also seeing substantially more orders than the H20 from state-backed enterprises, Reuters said, citing limited government data. This came following a mandate from Beijing for state enterprises to use China-made silicon.
The 910B is the most advanced Chinese AI chip, and has shot up in popularity in the country following U.S. sanctions that attempted to block China’s access to the latest AI advancements.
Its popularity in China presents more headwinds for Nvidia’s business in the country. The chipmaker has struggled to maintain its foothold in Chinese markets following the U.S. sanctions.
During its first quarter earnings this week, the company warned that China was becoming an increasingly competitive market, and that the firm’s data center revenue in China fell “significantly.”
Steep discounts on the H20 also present more margin pressure for Nvidia.
Finance Yahoo
NVIDIA H20 chip faces competition from Huawei
Written by Rebecca Uffindell Mon 5 Feb 2024
Reuters reported NVIDIA priced orders for H20 distributors in China in a range of £9,531 ($12,000) to £11,914 ($15,000) per card. Some distributors have promoted the NVIDIA chips at a markup toward the lower end of the range, around £12,167 ($15,320).
In contrast, Huawei’s 910B is priced at about £13,388 ($16,856), citing sources familiar with the matter.
Distributors are reportedly selling NVIDIA H20 servers pre-configured with eight AI chips for £156,560 ($196,745). This marked a significant price drop compared to servers equipped with eight H800 chips, which sold for around £223,657 ($281,065) when launched a year ago.
The specifications for the NVIDIA H20 chip indicated it is less powerful than the Huawei Ascend 910B in key areas.
According to a source, one example of where the H20 appears to lag is the 910B in its floating point 32-bit (FP32) performance. This is a metric that measures how rapidly a chip can process common tasks. The H20 chip’s FP32 performance is reported to be less than half of its rival’s capability.
However, the H20 appears to outperform the 910B in interconnect speed, which is crucial for transferring data between chips. This advantage allows the H20 to stay competitive with the 910B in applications needing numerous chips linked together to function as a system.
Before the US introduced the chip export restrictions to China, NVIDIA had a 90% market share in China. However, NVIDIA now faces competition from rivals domestic to China.
Huawei’s 910B chip is currently seen as China’s top AI offering, gaining popularity amid concerns about restricted access to NVIDIA products due to US sanctions.
Techerati
It doesn't matter in order to make microchips your silicon wafer must be 99.9997% pure. Only one mine in the US State of North Carolina produces such silicon. So 85% of worlds silicon comes from that mine. China does make synthetic silicon but it is at 10 times the cost. So it not cost effect to take on the United States.
@@Madame702
China’s Homegrown CPU and Lithography Machine for 7nm Chips Conquer New Heights
Aug 2, 2023
Shanghai Micro Electronics has developed advanced 28nm immersion lithography machines domestically in China, bringing them closer to 7nm chip manufacturing capabilities.
Medium
@@Madame702
China Starts First Mass-Production of Super-Pure Silicon
LIAO SHUMIN
DATE: JUN 07 2018
The development of domestic electronic-grade polycrystalline silicon producers is a key part of efforts in China to reduce the integrated circuit sector's dependency on imports of the material in the long-term.
YicaiGlobal
why media always find a face look like native to be the reporter? more like a expert?
Lol, China is making 3 nm
abc的妆容真的有点逆天……
China is at 14 nm with US at 7 nm
One version behind, but 48billion maybe a game changer. We may see in 5 years chinese high tech 5 nm chips flooding the market.
China can only make 90nm chips on its own. It did get some deep ultra violate lithographic machine which old technology to make a brute force 25nm chips for the smart phones but it really eats up your battery.
What Xi Jinping found out is that Americans are one's in China that did the quality checks on the silicon wafers for the microchips at every stage of the process. Without Americans doing the checks China cannot make the AI microchips which are 10nm or less.
Also, 85% of the 99.9997% pure silicon to make microchips and fake boobs come from one mine in the US State of North Carolina. So at anytime American cut off your supply of microchips or fake boobs any time they feel like it.
you couldn't find a better looking Asian reporter to lie about the Chinese? damn...
This is beauty in American standard, the world need to accept them.
Overcapacity 😂😂😂
Junk news overload
The Chinese are very far really. Lol
Wartawatinya anak durhaka kata ibunya
Tekanan tuntutan kerja Dan hidup di negara orang
Nvidia's chip technology is too advanced to copy, and the US is fiercely protective of its intellectual property. In response, they’ve fortified their defenses with measures like moats, castle walls, armed security guards, and super passwords. 😂
Nvidia, alongside TSMC, has become a trillion-dollar company on the stock exchange, with their stock prices continuously soaring. Countries across the globe, including African nations, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Brazil, and China, all need Nvidia chips. As a result, Nvidia is evolving into a multinational corporation with financial power surpassing that of the Chinese government and military, and even the Russian military.
In response, China has decided to create its own video game chip, leading to a crackdown on GAOKAO students and illegal immigrants to prevent them from leaving the country. The Chinese government is also restricting the movement of its nationals to ensure they stay within China.
Here the thing you need to understand. The Lithographic machine that etch the microchips are made by the Dutch and we have sanction China so they cannot buy the machine. The lens used by that machine is made by the Germans and China cannot buy the lens. America controls 85% of the silicon it comes from one mine in North Caroline which means we control the world supply of silicon.
But the research finds that China leads the U.S. by a few other measures, including being ahead of the U.S. in producing top-tier AI researchers, based on undergraduate degrees, with China at 47% and the U.S. lagging with 18%. Additionally, among top-tier AI researchers working at U.S. institutions, 38% have China as their country of origin, compared with 37% from the U.S.
CNBC
US is not the only country that knows how to print money.
china is a manufaturing country, they dont have to print much unlike the US.
The
China is Desperate. They bow running back to Samsung😂😂😂. Huawei is not doing too well😂
US is desperate, it can not contain china, huawei just got record high profit , and huawei just produced its 5nm chip , and sold more than 20 million fone in 7 month, while samsung only produce memory chips, not CPU, d,mzz , and samsung has lost most of its market share in china because of many chinese chip manufacturers produce memories ships
@@xinyiquan666 🤣🤣👌
What are you talking about? It's Samsung that asked to meet Chinese pm. South Korea has run a trade deficit with china, making it for the first time in 31 years.
Asia powerhouse china
@@io2068
Usa crying
You forgot to mention about the overcapacity of genders,homeless people,drugs,dollars,debts, weapons,military bases,wars...of the US 😂