The Manchester airport case has not yet progressed due to the long queues in the legal system backlog, interviews and investigations....complex issues, supposedly If you watched the Black Belt Barrister, he explained all of this .... police woman w/ broken nose or a police man - the laws are cover both as equals; u stating police woman means nothing, due to feminist ''hard fought for'' supposed equality; one could be a 6'9'' trans, the other a 4ft weakling
White privilege ?? Er i think the word is indigenous white rights this is demographic west europe and we native Indigenous british are all north western natives more than just a skin colour its the indigenous colour we are not unlike usa more than just ( another white to be subjagated ) indigenous gets splattered round about with pride elsewhere but ohhhh no NO NEVER indigenous peaples of west ohh NO NEVER
Spot on - nothing like a victim mentality taken to the EXTREME - whereas, legally if there has been NO actual conviction of a 'crime' then there is NO victim only a 'complainant' kudos to Blackbelt Barrister for the definition (I have used a looser definition than he gave) but that about sums it up
In the good old pre-woke days the Police gathered intelligence. The base of this was the beat cop working in his community and talking to people. It was backed up by CHIS , covert human intelligence sources who communicated with plain clothes police further up the chain. Known to the criminals as “grasses”. This appears to be completely lost to the current crop of left wing woke cops. Remember, the old school cops spent years fighting left wing anarchists. Now they support these same anarchists. 🏴🇬🇧
I don't think they /do/ get arrested though. It's more like "will you come down to the pol stn?". If you them become confrontational, they'll hold you on a P Order offence. If you say yes, then all is well and good. The Polis could always find some reason to arrest anyone should they wish to. NCHIs don't really change this.
Mike Neville is spot on saying it is about control and oppression! If it is a non crime then it should be totally ignored! The police need to catch real criminals not ridiculous accusations about somebody!
I don't see this. Since forever, I've seen Police come round and 'give a good talking to' people who have done something borderline 'risky' but not illegal.
Let's not forget we have an ex human rights lawyer as prime minister. And we have the government pushing for more recording of non crime hate crimes. It says it all really.
Ok, so how did they know he was praying ? Did they ask him ? Did they use a brain scanner ? Any sensible Priest would have responded "I am alw*ys praying" or "that is betwixt me and my G**" or some such.
@@quantisedspace7047 FEB 2023. '''Priest and woman arrested as they 'silently prayed' cleared of 'thought crime' ''Father Sean Gough [He was never actually convicted, he won his case] has now accused the Government of 'censoring the streets' as it looks to expand the 'buffer zones' around all abortion facilities in the UK he sated, ''I prayed for free speech''. Although he was arrested/fined, his case was later overturned. 2 other cases overturned, one to go , - ie Adam Connolly Smith. All thse cases involve thick, naive, fake prosecutors/CPS, Council officials.. wasting tax payers money Saying the priest was ''convicted'' [he was not] & not mentioning we won his case is wrong!
'''A Catholic woman was arrested and searched for 'praying silently' near an abortion facility. Isabel Vaughan-Spruce was seen being detained by three police officers after saying that she “might be” praying inside her head inside a censorship zone surrounding the clinic. [she won 17 000 compensation; police mistreatment.... Priest also cleared] She maintained the facility was closed during the time she was there and she was not protesting - something which would not be allowed under the strict rules of censorship zones. Now she, along with a priest - Father Sean Gough - who was charged for praying within the same censorship zone in Birmingham, have today been cleared at Birmingham Magistrates Court. '' Wales Online
Starmer has nothing but contempt for the public and can't stand dissent or anyone who dares to challenge him in any way, and has proven that. This is what weak totalitarians do when they can't get the public to follow them willingly, Starmer and his totalitarian regime MUST go.
Gaol is where you are held in custody. They can do that for a variety of reasons. They'll probably find something real to charge you with diring that time.
Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998 protects the right to freedom of expression, which includes: Holding opinions, Expressing opinions without government interference, Receiving and sharing information and ideas without public authority interference, Freedom from interference by public authority, and Freedom without regard to frontiers.
Similar subject... my son is a great big caring boy who would never hurt a fly. Bunch of kids been ruining his time at school for 2 years school literally just admitted that they MIGHT have to start logging incidents as bullying. Now... had my boy been gay or trans... who wants to bet this would have been sorted. Society is breaking.
I'm bewildered as to how fast we've got to a stage of informers and a stasi type police. I would say our police are further along the five steps than the rest of us?
Under UK Law, if the Accused pleads Not Guilty, they have the right to have the Victim to come to Court to give Evidence This is perhaps why accused persons are 'persuaded' to plead Guilty?
I wrote to my MP asking how in the name of all that is holy, can an individual be put into jail for committing (?) a 'Non-crime - ??? what the hell does that even mean? Can I get KS put in jail for hurting my feelings calling me right wing and taking away money from me without any notice?
The concept was created by the College of Policing, a Quango with a baleful influence on the policing of this country, and police forces have to play ball.....
Yet you can download a terrorist manual and make weapons and without getting arrested untill you commit a crime,but comment about it and your fast tracked to prison
The highest authority in a school should be the Headteacher...not the police. A decent Headteacher should be able to ceal swiftly with all and any cases of bullying without paremts brining in the police. It's time we reiterated to our children that "sticks and stones may break our bones but names will never hurt me".
They used to control people by having societal norms and values, with an emphasis on politeness in the UK. We would air our grievances in debate and conversation which was where you could offend without judgement. This is what happens when you erode common decency, common sense & basic human truths.
The last 4yrs have worn people down 😢 A Heck Of Alot Of Frustration and Anger HS Built Up And After Internalisation, It's Being Let Out ,They Don't Know Where To Direct It! We've Been Duped And Folk's Are Starting To Realise That 😳 A Game Of Human Chess Is Being Played and Volunteer or Not 😢 We Are All On The Board😘❤️🙏🏼
I detest what the government has done to our once great police. I cannot imagine how current officers must feel. They are being used and the service overall is abused.
Yes but have neither the life experience nor the training to actually fight crime and catch criminals because they only have a cornflake packet degree which they gained whilst being brainwashed by pro Islamic and communist lecturers
There are more political prisoner's in Britain than in Russia so who's the suppressed country, we've been fed lie's constantly about Russia ask Guy martin
If it is decided that the incident is a non-crime, then no Police attendance should be required. Police should only attend real crimes. If it continues Chief Constables should lose their jobs. The Police can describe a person who makes a complaint a victim, only a judge can, they a complainant and he/she who alleges must prove. ‘Hate’ is subjective and should not be criminalised.
Keir Starmer is watching the petition closely, scheming how he can make space in prisons for 3mill+ far right thugs. Maybe he’ll send all the English Working Class to Rwanda? 😂
The obvious question that is not asked is why allow the police to record non-crime hate incidents (NCHI) on the DBS system as this is a concern since the purpose of DBS is to disclose criminal convictions and police cautions. A NCHI is not the same as a police caution, which is a formal warning where someone accepts committing an offense. A NCHI is subjective based on perception and consequently is very much open to abuse, false accusations and maliciousness. NCHI was developed under previous Tory administrations since 2010.
Think about it. If 'everybody' gets NCHIs recorded against them, then DBS will lose its meaning. Eventually, noone will care about what it says when considering you for a job.
@@quantisedspace7047 You think about it. Following your line of argument it would take well over 2,500 years for everybody to have a recorded NHCI against them based on the current reporting rate and population. A more sensible approach would be not to have NCHI included in the DBS check on the basis there is no recorded crime.
NCHI can be used against those who criticise "the powers that be" - to put "black marks" on the records of people they deem as a threat. NCHIs can be applied to make employment difficult - makes perfect sense to try and deny a livelihood to "problematic citizens".
So, during the summer starmer labelled everybody that is concerned about illegal migrants entering the country as 'far right' and 'modern day hitlers'. I am concerned and therfore, offended by his remarks and feel like he is hating on people like me. If he is saying hate things about me, and others, can he be reported to the police via a non crime hate incident?
Freedom of speech...gone
Censorship...here to stay
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Wait so kids Can't call each other names but criminals CAN punch a policewoman in the face........... have I got this wrong?
No. You have it exactly correct.
Sadly, in the new paradigm, yes, you've got it wrong!! It seems we're now at the point of 2+2=5!!🤷♂
Don’t forget nonces walking free from court whilst people are languishing in prison for posting on social media.
Muslim far-right male
vs
Non-muslim female police officer.
The Manchester airport case has not yet progressed due to the long queues in the legal system backlog, interviews and investigations....complex issues, supposedly
If you watched the Black Belt Barrister, he explained all of this .... police woman w/ broken nose or a police man - the laws are cover both as equals; u stating police woman means nothing, due to feminist ''hard fought for'' supposed equality; one could be a 6'9'' trans, the other a 4ft weakling
There's no such thing as a non crime hate incident. It's a contradiction of terms.
1984'ish gobble gook 😮
precisely 'orwellian new-speak' to obfuscate and confuse!
That cop, is proper old school. GOOD! We need real cops now more than ever!!
He's retired
Meaning he actually has a 'thinking brain'......and a solid spine!
What about the hate preachers stirring up ....
And councillors. Don't vote Green or Labour.
They even talk OPENLY about taking over the u.k.?? Look what happened to iran and Lebanon in 70s??? Wake up you idiots
If it’s a non crime, why the hell are they coming near people??? It’s rubbish.
Control
Let's stop talking about white 'privilege' and start talking about 'victim' privilege!
Well said!!
I wish I could up vote your comment 1000 times! Hit the nail on the head
White privilege ?? Er i think the word is indigenous white rights this is demographic west europe and we native Indigenous british are all north western natives more than just a skin colour its the indigenous colour we are not unlike usa more than just ( another white to be subjagated ) indigenous gets splattered round about with pride elsewhere but ohhhh no NO NEVER indigenous peaples of west ohh NO NEVER
Spot on - nothing like a victim mentality taken to the EXTREME - whereas, legally if there has been NO actual conviction of a 'crime' then there is NO victim only a 'complainant' kudos to Blackbelt Barrister for the definition (I have used a looser definition than he gave) but that about sums it up
It is a crime that the police are doing this.
Isn't a citizen entitled to know the specifics of why he or she is being arrested?
Yes. Of course.
In the good old pre-woke days the Police gathered intelligence. The base of this was the beat cop working in his community and talking to people. It was backed up by CHIS , covert human intelligence sources who communicated with plain clothes police further up the chain. Known to the criminals as “grasses”. This appears to be completely lost to the current crop of left wing woke cops. Remember, the old school cops spent years fighting left wing anarchists. Now they support these same anarchists. 🏴🇬🇧
And face your accuser!!
I don't think they /do/ get arrested though. It's more like "will you come down to the pol stn?". If you them become confrontational, they'll hold you on a P Order offence. If you say yes, then all is well and good.
The Polis could always find some reason to arrest anyone should they wish to. NCHIs don't really change this.
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Mike Neville is spot on saying it is about control and oppression!
If it is a non crime then it should be totally ignored! The police need to catch real criminals not ridiculous accusations about somebody!
I don't see this. Since forever, I've seen Police come round and 'give a good talking to' people who have done something borderline 'risky' but not illegal.
@@quantisedspace7047Non crime means you thank them for their time and then close the door.
This non crime hate stupidity needs to stop now! If it's not a crime then the police should have no authority to pursue people!
I'm fine in Leicestershire because the Police don't attend addresses with an odd house number
And the king sitting watching his country Goe down the drain. What's the point.
WEF charlie. I've no respect
There is no King.Long gone
@@madeleinedonaldson4422 This country died with the death of Elizabeth the second.
Could this country get any more ridiculous
Not really, it is such a shame.
Oh yes - this is just the tip of the iceberg...
It will get a whole lot worse.@@jimblamire3312
Oh yes, way to go yet !!
No!
Let's not forget we have an ex human rights lawyer as prime minister.
And we have the government pushing for more recording of non crime hate crimes.
It says it all really.
We live in a country that has convicted a priest for praying in his head. What is going on. Thought crime, come on guys.
Ok, so how did they know he was praying ?
Did they ask him ? Did they use a brain scanner ?
Any sensible Priest would have responded "I am alw*ys praying" or "that is betwixt me and my G**" or some such.
@@quantisedspace7047 FEB 2023. '''Priest and woman arrested as they 'silently prayed' cleared of 'thought crime'
''Father Sean Gough [He was never actually convicted, he won his case] has now accused the Government of 'censoring the streets' as it looks to expand the 'buffer zones' around all abortion facilities in the UK he sated, ''I prayed for free speech''.
Although he was arrested/fined, his case was later overturned. 2 other cases overturned, one to go , - ie Adam Connolly Smith. All thse cases involve thick, naive, fake prosecutors/CPS, Council officials.. wasting tax payers money
Saying the priest was ''convicted'' [he was not] & not mentioning we won his case is wrong!
'''A Catholic woman was arrested and searched for 'praying silently' near an abortion facility. Isabel Vaughan-Spruce was seen being detained by three police officers after saying that she “might be” praying inside her head inside a censorship zone surrounding the clinic. [she won 17 000 compensation; police mistreatment.... Priest also cleared]
She maintained the facility was closed during the time she was there and she was not protesting - something which would not be allowed under the strict rules of censorship zones. Now she, along with a
priest - Father Sean Gough - who was charged for praying within the same censorship zone in Birmingham, have today been cleared at Birmingham Magistrates Court. '' Wales Online
They used to execute people in the Tudor times for thought crimes. We’ve literally regressed.
Yep. All very orwellian and dystopian! We are ALL 'Winston'
Starmer has nothing but contempt for the public and can't stand dissent or anyone who dares to challenge him in any way, and has proven that. This is what weak totalitarians do when they can't get the public to follow them willingly, Starmer and his totalitarian regime MUST go.
Bullies are always cowards
@@DodiSage Very true.
Put in is beginning to look good next to stammers
@@Enceladus007 At least with Putin people knew what they were getting, he never pretended to be anything other than he is, unlike this shower.
he's a lifelong communist.. check out when he was secretary for the pro-soviet Lawyers for Labour.
surely freedom ensures the right to not like certain people
If it is a Non-crime, then how come they can give jail time? You all need to tell your leaders "NO!".
Gaol is where you are held in custody. They can do that for a variety of reasons. They'll probably find something real to charge you with diring that time.
Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998 protects the right to freedom of expression, which includes: Holding opinions, Expressing opinions without government interference, Receiving and sharing information and ideas without public authority interference, Freedom from interference by public authority, and Freedom without regard to frontiers.
I have no faith in the police.
Oh I do... trouble is batting on the wrong side.
What i want to know is what school employee phoned the police about two children arguing in a playground?
Maybe one of the kids mums rang up after school. It's got to be that .... Pathetic action through!
Hate is an emotion not a crime. We are living in a bad version of the Minority Report.
HOORAY for bloody common sense!
"I think therefore I'm arrested"
Exactly .
It's called fascism
Correct- it's not left or right. It's control.
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@@lat1419 It's definitely from the left.
@LAMF24 that's an opinion, you're welcome. Seen much more from the right historically around the globe.
@@lat1419 No, it's demonstrably true in the UK.
Project FEAR for the last 4 years stopping you in your tracks 😀
The CONTROL should be on the GOVERNMENT not the public.
If you haven't broken any laws, do not talk to the police. It will only be used against you.
Indeed, it appears to be a police state.
Similar subject... my son is a great big caring boy who would never hurt a fly. Bunch of kids been ruining his time at school for 2 years school literally just admitted that they MIGHT have to start logging incidents as bullying. Now... had my boy been gay or trans... who wants to bet this would have been sorted. Society is breaking.
If it persists contact the local education offices and complain. From what you say the school sounds negligent in their duty.
@bl4531 no argument at all. Its all about massaging their stats
Bring back the sharp old-timers as advisers.
Unfortunately alot of those Fine Specimens were culled over the last 4yrs 😢😘❤️🙏🏼🎉
I thought we were all innocent until proven guilty.
How can it be right that you can be accused and not know the nature of the crime or your accuser?
but we are all far right now.
Why would you think that ? We are all guilty of whatever The Party says we are.
This is just like the Gestapo!
RachelBaba and her 401 Thieves
The police are supposed to be the servants of the public, not their masters
Same as the Gov should be serving us.... Not laying the law down N dictating
I'm bewildered as to how fast we've got to a stage of informers and a stasi type police.
I would say our police are further along the five steps than the rest of us?
The last 4yrs has taught me that Some people are just mean spirited 😢 and vindictive 😘❤️🙏🏼
@@amyshoneye5455So, you're what, 8 years old ?
@@quantisedspace7047 Are You 8yrs Old My ❤️ 🙏🏼
Under UK Law, if the Accused pleads Not Guilty, they have the right to have the Victim to come to Court to give Evidence This is perhaps why accused persons are 'persuaded' to plead Guilty?
This.
If I post hurty words on Facebook i could be arrested, if I report a crime i get a crime number, let that sink in how pathetic we've become.
Remove the woke , uniformed thugs posing as police 🚨.
I wrote to my MP asking how in the name of all that is holy, can an individual be put into jail for committing (?) a 'Non-crime - ??? what the hell does that even mean? Can I get KS put in jail for hurting my feelings calling me right wing and taking away money from me without any notice?
The issue with Starmer was after Southport.He was concerned that the identity of the attacker might be exposed.More worried about him than the kids.
I still do not understand how the police get involved if it is not a crime
The concept was created by the College of Policing, a Quango with a baleful influence on the policing of this country, and police forces have to play ball.....
Police get involved in all sorts of stuff that are not crimes. This is nothing new.
Police the streets not the tweets.
Excellent slogan! ... Needs to be EVERYWHERE on caps, slogans , posters , stickers.ect at any upcoming protests.
'Trust is good but control is better'....Lenin etc
Yet you can download a terrorist manual and make weapons and without getting arrested untill you commit a crime,but comment about it and your fast tracked to prison
We’re all doomed
Dad's army, the Scots guy, used to say that! How right he was...
I was stabbed in the face, an inch below my eye by a known neighbour and the police did nothing. Not enough evidence apparently
STARMERLIN AND LIE-LABOUR...GET THEM OUT!!!
In other words blasphemy against Islam 🤫
It's pathetic
Is it a none crime hate crime police don’t investigate burglaries? Or other REAL crimes?
non-crime
The highest authority in a school should be the Headteacher...not the police. A decent Headteacher should be able to ceal swiftly with all and any cases of bullying without paremts brining in the police. It's time we reiterated to our children that "sticks and stones may break our bones but names will never hurt me".
They used to control people by having societal norms and values, with an emphasis on politeness in the UK.
We would air our grievances in debate and conversation which was where you could offend without judgement.
This is what happens when you erode common decency, common sense & basic human truths.
That's what we need an old school copper, not woke and being leaned on by the gov, starmers using them as his bodyguards
We need Old School Coppers to form their own private security companies.
The last 4yrs have worn people down 😢 A Heck Of Alot Of Frustration and Anger HS Built Up And After Internalisation, It's Being Let Out ,They Don't Know Where To Direct It! We've Been Duped And Folk's Are Starting To Realise That 😳 A Game Of Human Chess Is Being Played and Volunteer or Not 😢 We Are All On The Board😘❤️🙏🏼
The left wing method, used by the Tories as much as Labour.
Very worrying indeed
Labour are a disgrace!!
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That’s exactly what this about scare and control tactics
I detest what the government has done to our once great police. I cannot imagine how current officers must feel. They are being used and the service overall is abused.
I laugh with dispare
Wasting police time and using up money on speak crime omg
The Police must remember they are working for the public to ensure safety. That is it, no other role.
It sounds very Gestapo like calls in the night and then people dissappear, its not acceptable in a democracey....
If this country was a democracy, I'd agree with you
No, it isn't but why do you bring up the idea of a 'democracy' ? We are talking about the UK, not what happens in a democracy.
While crime figures rise daily this is now a police priority???????
No one is frightened of the police anymore. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER.
Well err. I don't know about that. There seems to be quite a lot of people who /are/ afraid of them, and it isn't the crims
This is what the "20 thousand extra police officers" were employed for.
Yes but have neither the life experience nor the training to actually fight crime and catch criminals because they only have a cornflake packet degree which they gained whilst being brainwashed by pro Islamic and communist lecturers
I'm offended by our government every single day. Can the police go an give them an NCHI?
"Mummy mummy, they're poking fun of me" - I'm really starting to worry about this country.
If it’s not a crime it has nothing to do with the police.
We don’t need, want nor should we stand for, thought police.
Well said👏🏻
There are more political prisoner's in Britain than in Russia so who's the suppressed country, we've been fed lie's constantly about Russia ask Guy martin
If it is decided that the incident is a non-crime, then no Police attendance should be required. Police should only attend real crimes. If it continues Chief Constables should lose their jobs. The Police can describe a person who makes a complaint a victim, only a judge can, they a complainant and he/she who alleges must prove. ‘Hate’ is subjective and should not be criminalised.
The same is happening here in Australia.
Wef are behind all of it.
I so hope that people will vote differently the next elections you have. The insanity is mind-blowing and scary!
What makes you think we are going to have elections any more ?
Being so called 'Far Right', I am confidently expecting a knock on the door one day. It won't stop me saying what I think.
Oh for goodness sake,Petty nonsense.Starmer is a Psychopath and so are all these nutcases.Disputes should be between 2 people alone
Keir Starmer is watching the petition closely, scheming how he can make space in prisons for 3mill+ far right thugs. Maybe he’ll send all the English Working Class to Rwanda? 😂
Surely a really good lawyer would get this stupidity thrown out of court given it is called non crime that does not make sense,
what youre describing here has a name its called FASCISM AND TYRANNY
It heartbreaking that our country has been quietly taken over by a corrupt elite who have no love for our nation and the freedoms so many died for.
The obvious question that is not asked is why allow the police to record non-crime hate incidents (NCHI) on the DBS system as this is a concern since the purpose of DBS is to disclose criminal convictions and police cautions. A NCHI is not the same as a police caution, which is a formal warning where someone accepts committing an offense. A NCHI is subjective based on perception and consequently is very much open to abuse, false accusations and maliciousness. NCHI was developed under previous Tory administrations since 2010.
Think about it. If 'everybody' gets NCHIs recorded against them, then DBS will lose its meaning. Eventually, noone will care about what it says when considering you for a job.
@@quantisedspace7047 You think about it. Following your line of argument it would take well over 2,500 years for everybody to have a recorded NHCI against them based on the current reporting rate and population. A more sensible approach would be not to have NCHI included in the DBS check on the basis there is no recorded crime.
Ban non hate crime ,get rid of this pathetic government and elect one that has guts to sort this country out and make Britain great again
Not fit for purpose! Grate Britain!
Non crime hate = an opinion you don't like
NCHI can be used against those who criticise "the powers that be" - to put "black marks" on the records of people they deem as a threat.
NCHIs can be applied to make employment difficult - makes perfect sense to try and deny a livelihood to "problematic citizens".
Sign the petition to remove this Government, NOW !
Who decides what is hate speech? People used to be stronger than to be offended by someones hurty words. Get a spine for heavens sake.
This book explains how things can go wrong easily, "Ordinary Men by by Christopher Browning".
So your opinion, even your thoughts are "hate crimes"!!! God help us!! Stand up Britain, get your authentic self back, hurry!!😢
Under UK Law you are not a Victim until the person you has been to Court and found guilty, time the Police stopped making their own Laws !!
1984 is well and truly here folks. And it is only going to get worse under stazi Starmer, after all he learnt how to do this at a camp run by the KGB.
Communism 101
The minute Starmer and Liberals are out, this stupid law has to go!!!
Every time I hear Mike Neville's name I think of the newsreader from Tyne Tees Television.
This is just conditioning to bring in reporting your neighbours for wrong speak. Drip, drip, drip.
Actually, it will be used as an excuse to not hire a British citizen for a position, then they can "rightfully" give it to an illegal migrant.
So, during the summer starmer labelled everybody that is concerned about illegal migrants entering the country as 'far right' and 'modern day hitlers'. I am concerned and therfore, offended by his remarks and feel like he is hating on people like me. If he is saying hate things about me, and others, can he be reported to the police via a non crime hate incident?
If the govt hates you, you're on the right track. You only have to worry when the govt likes you.
How is it that the right is wrong & the lefts opions are right