@masegolfc And Trent, who was excellent in the first half of last season, missed the following 3 months. Robbo also missed significant game time and even when he returned, he was playing through injury to make sure he played in the Euros. Endo who stepped up in December big time, also missed 4-6 weeks due to Asia Cup.
Being aerially dominant for a CB is very important and its where Van Dijk is streets ahead of Saliba. 81% won vs 59%. Saliba is really poor in the air for the size of him.
Not just the duels, but when you watch him his technique in his headers are very poor as well. A lot of times headers on long balls are very soft and several have put the defense in awkward situations
@@Gunner9585There were a few instances in the Euros I noticed this. But I think Maignan made a big save for one and Kante bailed him out. Look, he's a class defender, but it's definitely something he needs to look into and maybe opposition need to target more.
It actually goes the same for Saliba! Arsenals defensive system is Saliba when he doesnt play Arsenal arent as solid at the back as you saw few seasons ago!!
Show me Saliba hitting a 70 yard diagonal, you can't, VVD is levels above even now, most of Arsenal players are system players, yes Salibas good, nowhere near the level people speak of him though
people tend to forget that Van Dijk for MAjority of the season last year maintained that level with Conor Bradley, Quash, Kelleher next to him meanwhile Saliba had a fully fit defense around him last year, Saliba is the second best defender in the world but that crown still belongs to Van Dijk
Oh Gosh...yall need to stop this narrative man Absolute nonsense you lot spew to convince yourselves of a false reality Liverpool fans are famed for creating.
No? His point is that people are overrating the individual players who while still good, also have a 100M DM in front of them and a compact system that offers a lot of protection. Hence why when people start acting like Spurs defenders are bad, they're wrong because Spurs play a much more demanding and expansive system that tends to yield more mistakes at risk of an increased attack.
@@carthag3mentioning Declan Rice’s price is irrelevant that’s like saying Colwill should be better because he’s got an over £200million midfield in front of him
@@dtm9792 It's very relevant. If you spend 100M on a DM you'd expect them to be a significant force in bolstering your defense. You're bringing up the 200M Chelsea midfield like I'm a Chelsea fan, which I'm not lmao. Caicedo and Enzo should be far better as well. Point is, not every club gets to dish out 100M on a midfielder whenever they want.
Saliba plays with 4 CB’s around him while Virgil has a defense around him, saliba himself said Virgil is the best CB in the premier league so theirs no point in arguing 😂
People forget that haaland scored 29 goals in 27 games for salzburg and scored 86 goals in 89 games for dortmund. Its him not the team. Put some respect on him!
One thing Saliba has had is a consistent CB partner next to him in Gabriel. Van Dijk had multiple partners next to him with matip and konate changing. And yet ye still shone as the main and made the others better too...haven't seen saliba make someone better next to him or had a different pairing
Fuad using the “security guard” argument to say Saliba is getting carried. Forgetting that VVD had Matip, Alisson, Robertson and Trent with Fabinho and Henderson in front of him during his prime 😂😂😂😂😂
Stop it man the type of football Arsenal play protect Saliba far more than virg with Liverpool. Arsenal are in control most of the time. In comparison to Liverpool playing a high line every game
Van dijk is the best cb in the league ik it’s not edgy to admit it’s still him but it’s just factual. No other cb has the level of responsibility he does. If anything he’s an even better reader of the game than pre injury. And Saliba is second but he has a way to go
VVD was the highest rated center back in the league according to Sqwuaka LAST YEAR. Also VVD dealt with Quansah and Konate being injured and changed the entire season and was still top. Just saying facts…
I remember our whole defense fell apart the moment saliba got injured when we were in the title race a season ago, same thing happened to Liverpool in that 2020-2021 season . van dijk and saliba are just special center backs . Saliba is just the younger version of van dijk and van dijk is the older version of saliba , that’s how I look at it 😂
Liverpool fell apart in the 20/21 season because all three of our senior centre backs picked up season ending injuries. We were actually doing okay without VVD until Matip and Gomez were both injured. Liverpool also had injury problems throughout that season in midfield as well Comparing one of the worst injury crises the league has seen in recent years to completely falling apart after losing one player despite having a relatively strong team is nonsensical
Everyone before the weekend. “Villa vs Arsenal is biggest game of the weekend” Then when Arsenal win. None of the content creators want to chat on it with priority 😂😂😂😂
When they do chat about it, it's all villa dominated and Arsenal are poor. I've heard more chat about this Rogers but in my books Boy lost the game and gave the ball to Trossard to score the first goal
@@stuartclarkson48exactly that. 😂 All about how many chances Villa had. But they don’t mention any of Arsenals chances or the fact they actually scored twice 😂
Trossard has much better end product then martinelli but martinellis consistent attack with pace and dribbling wears out the defense allowing Trossard to come in as the super sub and put the game away when its at a stalemate. Its the perfect mix for arteta . If you really pay attention Trossard is not as lethal when starting games
@auntieirohsteashop5548 Americans deserve no credit. There are people in Asia, Australia, New Zealand and Fiji, etc getting up at more awkward times. What about us in Europe who watch American sports and follow it until 3, 4, 5 and 6am even with west coast games? YOU LOT HAVE IT EASY. Edit - oh and you lot get all the games. We don't over here thanks to Sky and TNT.
Like, lot of us in Europe watch NBA, NFL, PGA Tour, UFC, boxing, and WWE, and we don't get gassed up. I watch NBA, NFL, WWE, and PGA Tour golf. Regularly, I have stayed up at obscene hours. So what? Yet Americans always have to beat their chest looking for adulation. Most of you guys also bandwagoned the successful teams, whether at the time or now. Oooh, on rare occasions, you may have to get up at 5am or 7 am depending on the timezone for a game. Tough life! I have followed the Knicks for 14 years when they were largely shit and staying up to even 5 or 6am some games.
@LoCoAde87 For real. They are so insufferable. They pay so little to get all the games on TV or app handily vs us paying a fortune to see our teams 'legally' maybe 15 times a season in the league if we are lucky.
Cams has improved a lot when talking about Liverpool over the last several months, but he is back looking at things in black and white like a Twitter teen with regards to Van Dijk. Van Dijk was Liverpool's best player last season in a season where until April they were pushing for the Quad with an injury ravaged side + international tourneys from January to April onwards. There is no way in hell Saliba does that. Maybe in the future, he does, but not now. Saliba also said Van Dijk is the best in EPL history very recently too. Picked him over Adams, Terry and Rio even. Like you did with Salah in his first season at Liverpool. Let's wait until certain men win something of note before all time chatter.
Trophy logic when comparing players is dense because then you can’t say vvd is an all timer in comparison to others. IMO at his peak VVD is the best CB in prem history but as of right now saliba is better,he’ll win trophies regardless of whether it’s at Arsenal or not,trophy based arguments for individuals is nonsensical
What did u expect Saliba to say, to slander VVD? And Saliba was the reason we lost the league 2 seasons ago...VVD is an icon, but Saliba has been better in the past 2 season, especially last season.
I mean bro , you wrote a whole paragraph just bc cams said at this moment in time , saliba is the best defender in the league . It’s not that deep , obviously vvd has a greater legacy but keep in mind , saliba has still not entered his prime
@@eddynovia3536if he said himself was the best they’d still come for him 🤣 humans are too hypocritical. Mind you 2 years ago he said Ruben Dias was the best defender in the league,he has also said Gabriel is better than himself on skysports so i don’t even know what they are going on about
@@eddynovia3536 LOL. Given the Liverpool Derrangement Syndrome out there, he could have said Rio and Terry. I might disagree, but them 3 are the best in the EPL I have seen since 1994/1995.
So we're down to "a good striker should score a hattrick against Ipswich". Dude has 7 hattricks in two full seasons so far. Some people just doesn't care about sounding intelligent as long as they can be controversial. "It's all KdB. He's delivering easy balls to Haaland". The problem is Haaland was setting records waaaay before coming to City and playing with KdB. He had record numbers in the UCL, in the Bundesliga and in the national scene. He was scoring hattricks in Austria.
The legend respect is too funny because when Fuad was calling KDB the greatest midfielder in the prem, they kept bringing up Gerrard as if KDB still has more to do when he’s been in the league for 10 years
"what cant saliba do" well he wins less than 50% of his aerials. but isnt it funny how you people are utterly incapable of praising literally any player without mentioning their superior liverpool counterpart?
Saliba got a great defensive system around him. Whereas Virgil Van Dijk is the SYSTEM! Respect the Goat. Insecure man utd fans like Cams not giving Virgil his flowers because he's already surpassing names like vidic and Ferdinand 😂
You’re proving his point,respect the goat. We are talking about right now mate. Saliba won man of the match at anfield after VVD made that stupid mistake by letting the ball bounce and then got shoved by martinelli. Y’all are just too insecure,i’m glad a United fan is the one saying Saliba is better if it was an arsenal fan we’d be hearing your delusional
@@SWERVEtammyYT van Dijk delivered in the big moments, same can't be said about Saliba. Until he does, keep my defenders names outta your mouths. Go compare him Lisandro Martinez and Romero's
Saying Trossard just scores goals is disrespectful imo, his movement is elite and on the ball he has the quickest feet in the club, can’t get the ball off him.
Enzo has just become a scapegoat. Bare people were calling him out after the first half, but he was actually the better out of him and Caicedo. Defensively, he wasn’t great, but if he was playing in that deeper role, we wouldn’t have given away possession so easily. I think Caicedo can do better in that role, but I prefer Enzo there
I think people forget that Van Dijk was the best defender in the league for two years running when he was at Southampton. It’s like people act like he miraculously became great at Liverpool.
The fact that vanpussy has been in the p leage longer and he's older then him Saliba is younger then him and he's shiting on every cb in the p leage rival fans like yourself won't admit it.
@@preciouskaunda7162 the day Saliba has the trophies and individual honours, including coming second in a Balon Dor to the greatest player ever to play the game, I will come back here and eat my words. Until then, my feet are up.
The bale money window would have been up there if not for Eriksen, Lamela (when he was fit) and Chadli. The duds were Capoue, Paulinho, Soldado and Chiriches.
Saliba is a joke freak of nature absolute beast the man is 23 three PFA team of the year in his position shows the levels and let’s not forget he won young player in France while on loan nothing gets past his mistakes happen in every sport but in terms of closest thing to perfection in that position no one comes close no rudiger Vvd non of that nonsense the man’s a brick wall and shows it week in week out .. LEVELS !!!!!
Lol Fuad saying VVD as the best CB last season. In the same breath dissing Martinelli who capitalised on VVD mistakes last season at the emirates. No one did that to Saliba in the league last season
We need to play a game where put up the blind resume of stats for premier league CBs and see which ones Fuad picks based on just there stats without knowing who the player is. I wanna see how many times he picks Saliba or Gabbie when his bias against Arsenal is forcibly removed. Great show as always fellas. Keep shining ✨
@@superdoo9874 saliba is better then VVD right now and you know it, you are just salty that your best CB is getting older and declining. You are just envious lol
To be fair to Rashford, he’s averaged 52 games a season in the last 9 years. 465 games in 9 seasons is crazy at 26 years old. Plus he’s had 5 different managers in 9 seasons.
Dude is always wrong when he bring up a stat. Henry had 4 Golden boots , Welbeck scored is 100 premier league goal not is 100 all comp and it's Harry who assisted Son 3 times. Every time he says a stats, I check if it is right.
@@GokuOverJesusno welbeck didnt score his 100th prem goal hahahahaah. Be serious man. Its his 100th CLUB GOAL. So you are wrong pal. Do your research. Did I say the stats about kane or my cohost???
Wolves and Everton are in big trouble this season I think. Everyone automatically assumes the newly promoted sides will go back down but I think they could be in danger if they don't fix up quickly, Premier League comes at you fast. Also, it's so mad to see Chelsea fans using historical results to banter other clubs when they used to mock Arsenal, Liverpool and United fans for doing the same thing.
There’s currently nothing Saliba is clearly better than van dijk at. Van Dijk however is a far better passes and header of the ball than Saliba is or ever will be. Saliba will overtake VVD because of age but he will never reach the peak because VVD is just too complete
The fact that we haven’t beaten united at old toilet since the 5-0 3 seasons ago and we didn’t beat once in 3 occasions last season says to me that we might put a beat down on united next week.
NOT 18 months just 11 months and internaly we know its cus we have no left side BUT marti did have a bad game, i think he should not start till merino starts
No body talk about noni work rate in defensive action he was defending until last minute and he was ready to attack..mudryk does the defense part but he get lost in attack
I love van dijk as a defrnder and im an arsenal fan so you could call it bias. But last season saliba was the better defender, van dijk definitely has the highest peak of the two at the moment but van dijk has not been better than saliba for the last 2 seasons
@azgardian32odinson a game of football doesn't solely revolve around statistics. Arsenal who control possession far better than Liverpool last season are naturally going to face less threats at goal so therefore the stats aren't always going to favour saliba over van dijk. And other than in the air I believe saliba was all round better than van dijk last season
@@reggiega7989 only Arsenal fans believe this 😂 why do Arsenal get so hurt over it.. no one thinks saliba is bad, he’s very and probably the best in his age bracket except for maybe araujo but a small criticism is that Ariel duels he’s not good almost at all.
“He’s a CB, is Saliba supposed to win trophies all on his own?” CAMS, Virgil literally scored the winner (twice) in a MOTM display at Wembley last season to win us a trophy. Joke all you want Saliba ain’t scoring that header you bum
VVD won us the league and champions league. Until Saliba does that i am not accepting the comparison. Also look at aerial duals, passing acuracy, dribbled past. VVD is clear.
Mo Salah is not far from Henry in terms of PL GOAT status if we're being honest. After all, he is the ultimate big game player in the league, something Henry wasn't. He also won CL with Liverpool. Yes Henry was more skillful and aesthetic, but Salah is all round not far all things considered.
Sarah doesn't even come close to Henry. No shade on Salah but Henry was unreal. The fact that Nedved got a got a Balon d'or over Henry should be a crime .
Fuad is a funny guy, let's not act like VVD wasn't destroyed by Atalanta last season but you wanna talk about Saliba against Bayern LOL. Same guy that said Udogie will be world class and best lb back in the league wants us to not talk about Saliba LOL. Same Udogie that has been exposed to have bozo gene, can't defend, very rash and loses the ball. Typical Spurs fan LOL
why every fan channel and radio pundit make excuses for maguire !? the goal was his fault his not going to die if you admit his not good enough what is going on in england
Arsenal are cooked, if one key player like Saliba gets injured. Chelsea had the worst injury crisis in the past 3 seasons and we only finished below 6th position once. Let's see how Arseanal survive with just two main starters missing most of the season.
Haaland is the coldest finisher since Van Nistlerooy but he's DEAD outside of that. Aguero was a FAAAARRR superior footballer, I don't think it's disrespectful to point that out
Facts it’s disrespectful what Mikel has been doing I mean have ur opinion but to bring a man on ur podcast as a former player dats disgusting, I think Jackson ain’t all dat but come on
I don’t mind presenters having their favorite teams and biases, as long as they know how to put their biases to the side. Fuad does not do that. It’s like having an IRL Twitter argument. You really need to question his capacity to provide decent commentary. Any time Arsenal is mentioned, you can hear the “mmmmmm” in the background. At best, he’s a debate pitbull for Spurs fans.
Fuad really showing that Arsenal bias. VVD was NOT better than Saliba or Gabriel last season. Saliba has been consistent for 2 going on to 3 seasons now. Saliba yes wasn't great in the CL but so was VVD when his team needed him in that EL. VVD has always been overrated internationally and it's been proven time and time again.
Except VVD was statistically better than every single CB I. The PL last season and almost all of Europe. He played with a 2nd keeper and 2 kids next to him for 5 months. He was also MOTM in a final. And has been MOTM jn 3 finals. He’s been MOTM in more finals than saliba has even appeared in. “Arsenal bias”. You are the one with bias.
Fuad looks like he’s about to do a mean oil change.
Nahhhh
😂
Van Dijk had different CB partners and Alisson injured for 3 months.
@masegolfc And Trent, who was excellent in the first half of last season, missed the following 3 months. Robbo also missed significant game time and even when he returned, he was playing through injury to make sure he played in the Euros. Endo who stepped up in December big time, also missed 4-6 weeks due to Asia Cup.
Being aerially dominant for a CB is very important and its where Van Dijk is streets ahead of Saliba. 81% won vs 59%. Saliba is really poor in the air for the size of him.
Not just the duels, but when you watch him his technique in his headers are very poor as well. A lot of times headers on long balls are very soft and several have put the defense in awkward situations
Nonsense @@Gunner9585
@@Gunner9585There were a few instances in the Euros I noticed this. But I think Maignan made a big save for one and Kante bailed him out. Look, he's a class defender, but it's definitely something he needs to look into and maybe opposition need to target more.
Difference between VVd and Saliba is that Saliba has a sound defensive system around him at Arsenal while VVD is the defensive system at Liverpool.
It actually goes the same for Saliba! Arsenals defensive system is Saliba when he doesnt play Arsenal arent as solid at the back as you saw few seasons ago!!
@@yonzblock5956arsenal play with 4 CBs and 2 DMs.
@@yonzblock5956uh no. Arsenal play with 4 CBs for a reason mate.
But Saliba was great at Marseille in his last season with them, he was in team of the year in France that season. He's an excellent defender.
So robbo trent Fabinho and those guys are frauds?! Okay got it
Show me Saliba hitting a 70 yard diagonal, you can't, VVD is levels above even now, most of Arsenal players are system players, yes Salibas good, nowhere near the level people speak of him though
To be fair, VVD is a Premier League legend and has years under his belt. But it would be unfair to say Saliba is not on that same trajectory
people tend to forget that Van Dijk for MAjority of the season last year maintained that level with Conor Bradley, Quash, Kelleher next to him meanwhile Saliba had a fully fit defense around him last year, Saliba is the second best defender in the world but that crown still belongs to Van Dijk
Oh Gosh...yall need to stop this narrative man
Absolute nonsense you lot spew to convince yourselves of a false reality Liverpool fans are famed for creating.
@@Mago_7 what did I state that was a false reality?
@@Mago_7arsenal fans desperate to be relevant.
Winning the least spending the most and comparing yourselves to Liverpool 😂😂
@@Mago_7bruh wym??? Let Saliba slide in with Kelleher, Bradley & Quansah. He is not getting the same praise
So by Fuad's logic, no defensive player at Arsenal can individually get credit because of the collective??? make it make sense.
Fr bro acting like saliba didn’t keep a clean sheet against Messi , mbappe and Neymar
No? His point is that people are overrating the individual players who while still good, also have a 100M DM in front of them and a compact system that offers a lot of protection. Hence why when people start acting like Spurs defenders are bad, they're wrong because Spurs play a much more demanding and expansive system that tends to yield more mistakes at risk of an increased attack.
@@carthag3mentioning Declan Rice’s price is irrelevant that’s like saying Colwill should be better because he’s got an over £200million midfield in front of him
@@dtm9792 It's very relevant. If you spend 100M on a DM you'd expect them to be a significant force in bolstering your defense. You're bringing up the 200M Chelsea midfield like I'm a Chelsea fan, which I'm not lmao. Caicedo and Enzo should be far better as well. Point is, not every club gets to dish out 100M on a midfielder whenever they want.
@@carthag3rice was so high up the field 😂
Saliba plays with 4 CB’s around him while Virgil has a defense around him, saliba himself said Virgil is the best CB in the premier league so theirs no point in arguing 😂
People forget that haaland scored 29 goals in 27 games for salzburg and scored 86 goals in 89 games for dortmund. Its him not the team. Put some respect on him!
They forget. He did it wherever he was.
Yup, he's a classic goalscorer. World class at what he does.
Even for Norway the numbers are top
@shyneeelo484 wtf? You still need to create for him.
"It's him, not the team" screams football Twitter level trash
@ThatGuy-Kyle Yes. He scored 1 vs 11 for all those teams. You kids and casuals are painful.
We got VVD and then we got 97 points and became the defensive team in the league only conceding 22 goals and btw arsenal have never beaten that
In his prime...in his prime. Don't forget that as well. Let's see the level of Saliba at 27 then we can chat🤫
At age of 27 years old 😂, talk about today
@@ABD-G9 got a lot of talk for a defender who has only won a charity shield
@@mark-134 with that logic about trophies, Ruben Dias and stones and company is better then Vvd. I am cool with it
Arsenal fans need to change the narrative in sheer desperation for validation 😂
23:37 Cams in mid-season form with that dig at drogba's numbers 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fuad talks wazz, and shouting his mouth off, doesnt mean your right
One thing Saliba has had is a consistent CB partner next to him in Gabriel. Van Dijk had multiple partners next to him with matip and konate changing. And yet ye still shone as the main and made the others better too...haven't seen saliba make someone better next to him or had a different pairing
But at the same time , our whole defense fell apart the moment saliba got injured in that title race 23 season . Saliba does carry our defense too
Haven’t seen him make the people next to him better?
Have you watched the last three seasons and when he hasn’t played?
@@Darwin-santos last season he wasn't and still lost a few crucial games
@jimbojimbo6873 thing is he has only.played with gabriel...that's it. Could.he make Holding into a better defender, kiwor
@@Darwin-santos
But he was fit the whole of last season yet you guys won nothing
Fuad using the “security guard” argument to say Saliba is getting carried. Forgetting that VVD had Matip, Alisson, Robertson and Trent with Fabinho and Henderson in front of him during his prime 😂😂😂😂😂
Vvd came along and we won everything you could win in club football. Saliba has a plate to his name.
@@joshuamurray9818use common sense Van dijk is at the end of his career
@@joshuamurray9818 So ruben dias is a better defender than vvd, per your trophies logic. Nice.
None of you rated matip or hendo so why using him as an excuse now.. stfu
Stop it man the type of football Arsenal play protect Saliba far more than virg with Liverpool. Arsenal are in control most of the time. In comparison to Liverpool playing a high line every game
Cam I respected you. But the Saliba gas over Van Dijk is bad.
Van dijk is the best cb in the league ik it’s not edgy to admit it’s still him but it’s just factual. No other cb has the level of responsibility he does. If anything he’s an even better reader of the game than pre injury.
And Saliba is second but he has a way to go
VVD was the highest rated center back in the league according to Sqwuaka LAST YEAR. Also VVD dealt with Quansah and Konate being injured and changed the entire season and was still top. Just saying facts…
That average cb 😂😂😂
@@Triplemillionseller7454city nothing without sugar daddy lottery.
I remember our whole defense fell apart the moment saliba got injured when we were in the title race a season ago, same thing happened to Liverpool in that 2020-2021 season . van dijk and saliba are just special center backs . Saliba is just the younger version of van dijk and van dijk is the older version of saliba , that’s how I look at it 😂
Liverpool fell apart in the 20/21 season because all three of our senior centre backs picked up season ending injuries. We were actually doing okay without VVD until Matip and Gomez were both injured. Liverpool also had injury problems throughout that season in midfield as well
Comparing one of the worst injury crises the league has seen in recent years to completely falling apart after losing one player despite having a relatively strong team is nonsensical
@@fivestarman5130So, your statements proves Saliba is more important for Arsenal. And Liverpool is ok without VVD?🤔
@@southgunner21
When he wins something we can talk
@@southgunner21yes because that liverpool team is stronger than this arsenal team not because saliba is better than VVD
@@michaelelah8106with that Logic, John Stones and Ruben dias is better then VVD
Everyone before the weekend.
“Villa vs Arsenal is biggest game of the weekend”
Then when Arsenal win. None of the content creators want to chat on it with priority 😂😂😂😂
When they do chat about it, it's all villa dominated and Arsenal are poor. I've heard more chat about this Rogers but in my books Boy lost the game and gave the ball to Trossard to score the first goal
@@stuartclarkson48 u lot so dumb Ollie watckins cost them that game it’s a 50 / 50 and he got unlucky with that ball
Well you can't expect priority when Chelsea scored 6
Yeah we get it, arsenal are victims blah blah blah
@@stuartclarkson48exactly that. 😂
All about how many chances Villa had. But they don’t mention any of Arsenals chances or the fact they actually scored twice 😂
Cams still got the Vvd agenda…hmmmmmm
Not a aganda bro, VVD is the best CB in prem history, but right now Saliba is better CB. Let’s be honest
Trossard has much better end product then martinelli but martinellis consistent attack with pace and dribbling wears out the defense allowing Trossard to come in as the super sub and put the game away when its at a stalemate. Its the perfect mix for arteta . If you really pay attention Trossard is not as lethal when starting games
That tweet about watching the PL from North America. You don’t know the pain we endured waking up early morning to watch second season Conteball.
Brother thank God im from Europe.. if I had to watch Lampard 2nd season and Conte 2nd season at 5am, police would be called to my residence…
At least we don’t have TV blackouts
@auntieirohsteashop5548 Americans deserve no credit. There are people in Asia, Australia, New Zealand and Fiji, etc getting up at more awkward times.
What about us in Europe who watch American sports and follow it until 3, 4, 5 and 6am even with west coast games?
YOU LOT HAVE IT EASY.
Edit - oh and you lot get all the games. We don't over here thanks to Sky and TNT.
Like, lot of us in Europe watch NBA, NFL, PGA Tour, UFC, boxing, and WWE, and we don't get gassed up. I watch NBA, NFL, WWE, and PGA Tour golf. Regularly, I have stayed up at obscene hours. So what? Yet Americans always have to beat their chest looking for adulation. Most of you guys also bandwagoned the successful teams, whether at the time or now. Oooh, on rare occasions, you may have to get up at 5am or 7 am depending on the timezone for a game. Tough life! I have followed the Knicks for 14 years when they were largely shit and staying up to even 5 or 6am some games.
@LoCoAde87 For real. They are so insufferable. They pay so little to get all the games on TV or app handily vs us paying a fortune to see our teams 'legally' maybe 15 times a season in the league if we are lucky.
Cams has improved a lot when talking about Liverpool over the last several months, but he is back looking at things in black and white like a Twitter teen with regards to Van Dijk.
Van Dijk was Liverpool's best player last season in a season where until April they were pushing for the Quad with an injury ravaged side + international tourneys from January to April onwards. There is no way in hell Saliba does that. Maybe in the future, he does, but not now.
Saliba also said Van Dijk is the best in EPL history very recently too. Picked him over Adams, Terry and Rio even.
Like you did with Salah in his first season at Liverpool. Let's wait until certain men win something of note before all time chatter.
Trophy logic when comparing players is dense because then you can’t say vvd is an all timer in comparison to others.
IMO at his peak VVD is the best CB in prem history but as of right now saliba is better,he’ll win trophies regardless of whether it’s at Arsenal or not,trophy based arguments for individuals is nonsensical
What did u expect Saliba to say, to slander VVD? And Saliba was the reason we lost the league 2 seasons ago...VVD is an icon, but Saliba has been better in the past 2 season, especially last season.
I mean bro , you wrote a whole paragraph just bc cams said at this moment in time , saliba is the best defender in the league . It’s not that deep , obviously vvd has a greater legacy but keep in mind , saliba has still not entered his prime
@@eddynovia3536if he said himself was the best they’d still come for him 🤣 humans are too hypocritical. Mind you 2 years ago he said Ruben Dias was the best defender in the league,he has also said Gabriel is better than himself on skysports so i don’t even know what they are going on about
@@eddynovia3536 LOL. Given the Liverpool Derrangement Syndrome out there, he could have said Rio and Terry. I might disagree, but them 3 are the best in the EPL I have seen since 1994/1995.
So we're down to "a good striker should score a hattrick against Ipswich". Dude has 7 hattricks in two full seasons so far. Some people just doesn't care about sounding intelligent as long as they can be controversial. "It's all KdB. He's delivering easy balls to Haaland". The problem is Haaland was setting records waaaay before coming to City and playing with KdB. He had record numbers in the UCL, in the Bundesliga and in the national scene. He was scoring hattricks in Austria.
Check the defensive stats. Vvd was better last season. And even Saliba just admitted VVD is the best besides Ramos
When Saliba comes second in a Balon Dor competition or even get a nomination then we can chat. And vvd was second to Messi btw
By 7 votes. Has a vote ever been that close before?
The legend respect is too funny because when Fuad was calling KDB the greatest midfielder in the prem, they kept bringing up Gerrard as if KDB still has more to do when he’s been in the league for 10 years
This is the new vibe with 5. Brilliant bants and sensible takes.
"what cant saliba do"
well he wins less than 50% of his aerials. but isnt it funny how you people are utterly incapable of praising literally any player without mentioning their superior liverpool counterpart?
There is no defender alive who is 'superior' to Saliba, and VVD definitely isn't.
@@adams...on what metric is saliba the best CB in the world? And what metric is he better than VVD? Zero.
@@adams...😂😂😂😂 Nice it's important to make people laugh.
Saliba got a great defensive system around him. Whereas Virgil Van Dijk is the SYSTEM! Respect the Goat. Insecure man utd fans like Cams not giving Virgil his flowers because he's already surpassing names like vidic and Ferdinand 😂
You’re proving his point,respect the goat. We are talking about right now mate. Saliba won man of the match at anfield after VVD made that stupid mistake by letting the ball bounce and then got shoved by martinelli. Y’all are just too insecure,i’m glad a United fan is the one saying Saliba is better if it was an arsenal fan we’d be hearing your delusional
@@SWERVEtammyYT van Dijk delivered in the big moments, same can't be said about Saliba. Until he does, keep my defenders names outta your mouths. Go compare him Lisandro Martinez and Romero's
@@SultanaConceptwith that logic Ruben Dias is better than VVD because he has achieved more. Lol
@@ABD-G9 I didn't speak about trophies I spoke about "MOMENTS". Please read properly
@@SultanaConcept yes they have more moments to win more trophies then VVD
Fuad can be unbearable with the arsenal bias
Saying Trossard just scores goals is disrespectful imo, his movement is elite and on the ball he has the quickest feet in the club, can’t get the ball off him.
Swear you’re Pep with the analysis
@@tidedetergent4382 i’m black
Enzo has just become a scapegoat. Bare people were calling him out after the first half, but he was actually the better out of him and Caicedo. Defensively, he wasn’t great, but if he was playing in that deeper role, we wouldn’t have given away possession so easily. I think Caicedo can do better in that role, but I prefer Enzo there
I think people forget that Van Dijk was the best defender in the league for two years running when he was at Southampton. It’s like people act like he miraculously became great at Liverpool.
You cannot take anything fuad said about arsenal serious
Fuad goes from backing Trossard like a proper gooner then start to chat rubbish abour Saliba hahaha
Saliba isn’t and has never been better than Van Dijk.
Saka isn’t and has never been better than Salah.
The fact that vanpussy has been in the p leage longer and he's older then him
Saliba is younger then him and he's shiting on every cb in the p leage rival fans like yourself won't admit it.
Saliba is currently better than Van Disney lil bro
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Only when he wins a trophy 😢😂
Only Liverpool fans say 🥱
@@Triplemillionseller7454 lmaooo not a word 🥱🥱🥱
Saliba will never get close to VVDs peak
So you came from the future? 😂
@@preciouskaunda7162 the day Saliba has the trophies and individual honours, including coming second in a Balon Dor to the greatest player ever to play the game, I will come back here and eat my words. Until then, my feet are up.
@@JKnight23that’s not how it works
thank you cams for being real on saliba tho. real ball knowledge
The bale money window would have been up there if not for Eriksen, Lamela (when he was fit) and Chadli.
The duds were Capoue, Paulinho, Soldado and Chiriches.
Saliba is a joke freak of nature absolute beast the man is 23 three PFA team of the year in his position shows the levels and let’s not forget he won young player in France while on loan nothing gets past his mistakes happen in every sport but in terms of closest thing to perfection in that position no one comes close no rudiger Vvd non of that nonsense the man’s a brick wall and shows it week in week out .. LEVELS !!!!!
dont compare saliba to vvd its a debate he will always lose. class cb tho
@@AhmedOmar-fu6puif the debate is who is better right now, VVD is loosing every single time
Mayowa is too "chelsea media trained" speak your mind man
People don’t watch vvd , this guy is more then a defender! Have you seen his long passes. Ball control!
Lol Fuad saying VVD as the best CB last season. In the same breath dissing Martinelli who capitalised on VVD mistakes last season at the emirates. No one did that to Saliba in the league last season
bruddas saliba isn’t even better than ruben dias
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Saliba will replace Rudiger at Madrid eventually
People should know, this show is without prejudice, one of the very best football roundup showsnout there. Well done DR sports
Haaland has been offside 1 or 2 times a season. His timing & desire sets him apart.
Mays has no personality man he gets out classes by Cams every week 😭😭
Someone turn down Fuads mic abeg
We need to play a game where put up the blind resume of stats for premier league CBs and see which ones Fuad picks based on just there stats without knowing who the player is. I wanna see how many times he picks Saliba or Gabbie when his bias against Arsenal is forcibly removed. Great show as always fellas. Keep shining ✨
saliba not part of the conversation until he wins a league title and champions league
VVD isn’t the best then,cause Ruben Dias has every trophy more than him. Since y’all want to think with legs and not brains
Company, Stones and Ruben Dias is better then VVD then. If that’s the logic we are using.
@@ABD-G9 they are all part of the conversation saliba aint you're just a salty arsenal fan that cant spell kompany ahahahha
@@superdoo9874 saliba is better then VVD right now and you know it, you are just salty that your best CB is getting older and declining. You are just envious lol
@@superdoo9874 even Rudiger, Militao, Gabriel, Diaz, bastoni are better then VVD right now, not even close mate
To be fair to Rashford, he’s averaged 52 games a season in the last 9 years. 465 games in 9 seasons is crazy at 26 years old. Plus he’s had 5 different managers in 9 seasons.
It's a Cole World at the moment out there in the Prem 🦁
Great stream again guys love your content ❤
Cams speaking facts.
Dude is always wrong when he bring up a stat. Henry had 4 Golden boots , Welbeck scored is 100 premier league goal not is 100 all comp and it's Harry who assisted Son 3 times. Every time he says a stats, I check if it is right.
@@GokuOverJesusno welbeck didnt score his 100th prem goal hahahahaah. Be serious man. Its his 100th CLUB GOAL. So you are wrong pal. Do your research. Did I say the stats about kane or my cohost???
So nobody is gonna talk about cam's 80s shoulder pads.
Fuad with a howler man sed vvd was better last season shaaaalap
Wolves and Everton are in big trouble this season I think. Everyone automatically assumes the newly promoted sides will go back down but I think they could be in danger if they don't fix up quickly, Premier League comes at you fast.
Also, it's so mad to see Chelsea fans using historical results to banter other clubs when they used to mock Arsenal, Liverpool and United fans for doing the same thing.
There’s currently nothing Saliba is clearly better than van dijk at. Van Dijk however is a far better passes and header of the ball than Saliba is or ever will be. Saliba will overtake VVD because of age but he will never reach the peak because VVD is just too complete
I wish you lot would do some NBA content too. It's obvious you man are well versed in it
Mayowa said depleted squad is this who “represents Chelsea” Chelsea never let him back in the building
The fact that we haven’t beaten united at old toilet since the 5-0 3 seasons ago and we didn’t beat once in 3 occasions last season says to me that we might put a beat down on united next week.
Giving Rashford a 300k contract was a huge mistake. They should have sold him instead
NOT 18 months just 11 months and internaly we know its cus we have no left side BUT marti did have a bad game, i think he should not start till merino starts
“What can saliba do” - he can’t win an aerial duel to win his life.
Get off Fbref
No body talk about noni work rate in defensive action he was defending until last minute and he was ready to attack..mudryk does the defense part but he get lost in attack
Bring Lyes back
City beat united 6-1 at OT aswell.
David Cameron was prime minister.
Kyle Walker peters did it for Kane
Martinelli disrespect is mad.
Scores in big games. All the time.
City, Liverpool and so on
So does Rashford, doesn’t make them great players tho.
Jackson is too funny 🤣
Instead of olise we got neto on the side that we actually needed a winger no need for olise we have noni
Is saliba better than vvd right now prolly not, but at 22 vvd was at celtic and was no where near being one of the best cbs itw
Couches>Desk
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I love van dijk as a defrnder and im an arsenal fan so you could call it bias. But last season saliba was the better defender, van dijk definitely has the highest peak of the two at the moment but van dijk has not been better than saliba for the last 2 seasons
Only he wasn’t, statistically saliba wasn’t even better than Thiago silva.. salibas biggest issue is he needs to be better in the air
@azgardian32odinson a game of football doesn't solely revolve around statistics. Arsenal who control possession far better than Liverpool last season are naturally going to face less threats at goal so therefore the stats aren't always going to favour saliba over van dijk. And other than in the air I believe saliba was all round better than van dijk last season
@@reggiega7989 only Arsenal fans believe this 😂 why do Arsenal get so hurt over it.. no one thinks saliba is bad, he’s very and probably the best in his age bracket except for maybe araujo but a small criticism is that Ariel duels he’s not good almost at all.
“He’s a CB, is Saliba supposed to win trophies all on his own?” CAMS, Virgil literally scored the winner (twice) in a MOTM display at Wembley last season to win us a trophy. Joke all you want Saliba ain’t scoring that header you bum
VVD won us the league and champions league. Until Saliba does that i am not accepting the comparison. Also look at aerial duals, passing acuracy, dribbled past. VVD is clear.
Mo Salah is not far from Henry in terms of PL GOAT status if we're being honest.
After all, he is the ultimate big game player in the league, something Henry wasn't.
He also won CL with Liverpool.
Yes Henry was more skillful and aesthetic, but Salah is all round not far all things considered.
Henry was 110% a big game player. You know nothing my friend
not a big game player?????? jesus christ.
Naa
I guess Henry goals against United , Liverpool, Chelsea , juventus , Real Madrid , inter Milan , ac Milan were all small games
Sarah doesn't even come close to Henry. No shade on Salah but Henry was unreal. The fact that Nedved got a got a Balon d'or over Henry should be a crime .
Funny show, great job. 😂
Tell me you dont understand football without telling me you dont understand football. The fuad edition lol
Fuad just can’t admit the truth with saliba because he’s a arsenal boy. look with your eyes & live in the present please
Btw Saliba will never reach VVDs peak level
Cant lie i think this brudda will beat ksi on a biggest forehead contest
Fix your audio quality
Fuad is a funny guy, let's not act like VVD wasn't destroyed by Atalanta last season but you wanna talk about Saliba against Bayern LOL. Same guy that said Udogie will be world class and best lb back in the league wants us to not talk about Saliba LOL. Same Udogie that has been exposed to have bozo gene, can't defend, very rash and loses the ball. Typical Spurs fan LOL
why every fan channel and radio pundit make excuses for maguire !? the goal was his fault his not going to die if you admit his not good enough what is going on in england
I dont get why united always play the same formation can they try something different
Arsenal are cooked, if one key player like Saliba gets injured. Chelsea had the worst injury crisis in the past 3 seasons and we only finished below 6th position once. Let's see how Arseanal survive with just two main starters missing most of the season.
Haaland MUST get 44 goals minimum this season, any less is a failure
London is Blue once more
Keep trying to ignore spurs yall, the doubt makes the dub that much sweetaaa 😜
Fuad camera not in focus
Haaland is the coldest finisher since Van Nistlerooy but he's DEAD outside of that. Aguero was a FAAAARRR superior footballer, I don't think it's disrespectful to point that out
But he’s clear of van nistlerooy
CULTURE SCAMS reign as a TOP RED was shorter than Lisandro Martinez 😂😂😂
Facts it’s disrespectful what Mikel has been doing I mean have ur opinion but to bring a man on ur podcast as a former player dats disgusting, I think Jackson ain’t all dat but come on
the way no one cares about spurs 😂😂😂😂
I don’t mind presenters having their favorite teams and biases, as long as they know how to put their biases to the side. Fuad does not do that. It’s like having an IRL Twitter argument. You really need to question his capacity to provide decent commentary. Any time Arsenal is mentioned, you can hear the “mmmmmm” in the background. At best, he’s a debate pitbull for Spurs fans.
Fuad really showing that Arsenal bias. VVD was NOT better than Saliba or Gabriel last season. Saliba has been consistent for 2 going on to 3 seasons now. Saliba yes wasn't great in the CL but so was VVD when his team needed him in that EL. VVD has always been overrated internationally and it's been proven time and time again.
Except VVD was statistically better than every single CB I. The PL last season and almost all of Europe. He played with a 2nd keeper and 2 kids next to him for 5 months.
He was also MOTM in a final. And has been MOTM jn 3 finals. He’s been MOTM in more finals than saliba has even appeared in.
“Arsenal bias”. You are the one with bias.
I want my centre back to be dominant in aerial duels, Saliba simply isn’t. End of debate
What 😂 ? . Vvd literally runs away from forwards
@@VARMOT123No he doesn't stop looking at memes and thinking that's football.