WW2's Most Evil Comeback

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  • After shocking the world by assaulting the American Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor, the Japanese forces quickly moved to conquer the US-controlled Philippines; this was their one chance to seize the entirety of the Southwest Pacific and claim the resource-rich Dutch East Indies for themselves.
    Isolated and weakly armed, General Douglas MacArthur's troops in the Philippines were suddenly overwhelmed by a superior force. Still, Japan was gravely mistaken if it believed the US would relinquish the precious archipelago and its 7,100 islands without a fight.
    The Empire had to pay with blood for every inch of land gained as they slowly pushed the Americans south to the Bataan Peninsula. Then, a month into the invasion, the defenders had a glimpse of hope when they achieved the impossible: stopping a major offensive at the Orion-Bagac Line.
    Humiliated, Lieutenant General Masaharu Homma had to live with the shame of becoming the first Japanese commander to be defeated in the Pacific War. Suddenly, eradicating the US opposition in the islands became a matter of personal honor…
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  • @scottmccloud9029
    @scottmccloud9029 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    The real crime in the Pacific theater was when the Japanese criminals were tried and convicted their sentences were dismissed. That in and of itself is a slap in the face to the American and Philippino prisoners of war.

    • @scrappydoo7887
      @scrappydoo7887 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      100%

    • @NEOSCISSORSJAGUARPRIME
      @NEOSCISSORSJAGUARPRIME ปีที่แล้ว

      TRUE, MACARTHUR EXECUTED HOMMA AND YAMASHITA( RECENT INFO HAS DIVULGED THAT THEY MAY HAVE PUNISHED THEIR MEN FOR ATROCITIES ALTHOUGH HAVENT STOPPED THE MAJORITY BUT OTHERWISE WOULD'VE BEEN NOT GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES) BUT NOT MASANOBU TSUJI : ZEALOT, CANNIBAL, AND ARCHITECT OF THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH WHO LATER BECAME PART OF THE POST-WAR JAPANESE GOVT AND LATER CIA ASSET, SAME GOES FOR SHIRO ISHII AND HIS UNIT 731 IN EXCHANGE FOR BIOCHEM WARFARE DATA

    • @JoeBoozer
      @JoeBoozer ปีที่แล้ว +14

      only reason war started in the 1st place is because of roosevelt. so reap what you sow.

    • @scrappydoo7887
      @scrappydoo7887 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@JoeBoozer is that right? Would you please expand on that response?

    • @nathanrose3523
      @nathanrose3523 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes let off the hook by America so what's your point here

  • @Skipper.17
    @Skipper.17 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The only order that MacArthur obeyed was to leave the Philippines. But worse than that, he was awarded the medal of honour for doing it but when “skinny” wainwright was nominated for the award, MacArthur made sure it didn’t go through.

    • @talesoftheamericanempire
      @talesoftheamericanempire 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For a different historical view (one based on facts), search for this short video: "The American Empire's Disastrous Defeat in 1942"

    • @user-og1ux8nr3i
      @user-og1ux8nr3i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MacArthur was an incompetent coward. He proved that in WW2 and lost the Korean War for the UN.

    • @outcast668
      @outcast668 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In this day in age, I'd rather be a Wainright than a MacArthur with false Honors; besides, he would be fired by President Truman for considering to nuke China during the Korean Conflict. What a massive bullet we dodged, and the embarrassment from the fallout; plus the strains in politics, which are already tough enough...

    • @davidjackson2690
      @davidjackson2690 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Mac was a bum.

  • @sinoxenon1005
    @sinoxenon1005 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I once met an Australian veteran who was captured and interned by the Japanese in the Malay campaign. He was tortured and used as slave labour. However, he told a story that before his capture his unit was retreating to Singapore, the lines were very confused as the Japanese were racing ahead. At one point they came across a clearing in the jungle and the saw around 200 Japanese sitting down and having lunch. Before the Japanese saw them they surrounded the field with Bren guns and opened fire catching the Japanese off guard killing all of them. Many Japanese tried to charge his position. He said the barrel of his Bren was so red hot from firing that when he hit it against a tree to try to an unblock a round or remove the magazine the barrel wrapped around the tree. As such whenever he felt he couldn’t go on in prison he thought to himself there is nothing the Japanese could do that could ‘repay’ that fortunate ambush.

  • @noelongoco5532
    @noelongoco5532 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My grandfather Maj.Luis Gelacio, (+) USAFFE, fought in the Bataan defense lines and was eventually captured. He told me that he survived the Death March by eating grasshoppers, weeds,snails,any protein or carb they can find.He also told of soldiers eating even the leather of their shoes because of starvation.He survived the hellish conditions,as he wants to see my Grandma.I'm proud of his gallantry and steel resolve,his survival is my survival. I would not be writing this if not for his courage to live thru that hell...

    • @BoxingHolic1
      @BoxingHolic1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks to your grandfather, eternal memory for our heroes

    • @stepanbandera5206
      @stepanbandera5206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back when they made REAL men! 👍

  • @toddcooper2563
    @toddcooper2563 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I had the honor to meet Glenn McDole at his home in Des Moines, IA, before he passed. He was a Marine POW in the Philippines and one of the very few survivors of the Palawan Massacre. He signed and gave me a copy of his book, "Last Man Out", and the story will chill you to the bone. This would be a very good future topic for this channel.

    • @jayk7422
      @jayk7422 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I visited that site in Palawan island about 8 years ago... the horror those men went through... respect from Australia 🙏

    • @dalepaladin916
      @dalepaladin916 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay? And there's only got meeting you able to shed light on yay or nay as to MacArthur's handling of the Philippine invasion?

    • @thejohn6614
      @thejohn6614 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@dalepaladin916 what are you trying to say?

  • @palerider660
    @palerider660 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    My great uncle Timothy Campbell Was captured at Corregidor after the submarine He was an officer on was sunk by a Japanese destroyer off the coast while attempting to bring in supplies during the last days of the siege. He survived the Bataan Death March, years in camp O’Donnell and a horrifying trip on a Hell ship to Japan. He was liberated after Japan surrendered and returned home. My family prayed every night of the war for his return and it was a true Miracle he survived that nightmare.

  • @sammyseguin2978
    @sammyseguin2978 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    arrogance + ego = D. MacArthur

  • @ronjamski3911
    @ronjamski3911 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    I never understood how MacArthur was made out to be a hero after the disgraceful way he led the defense of the PI.

    • @armyvet8279
      @armyvet8279 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      MacArthur thought he was God and was WAY over-rated.

    • @jeffersonwright6249
      @jeffersonwright6249 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      He should have been court-martialled after losing the Philippines

    • @wisdomleader85
      @wisdomleader85 ปีที่แล้ว

      MacArthur was embraced by the authorities for suppressing veterans with force during the 1932 Bonus Army protest.

    • @howieb3344
      @howieb3344 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Should have saved Wainwright and left MacArthur there.

    • @malcolmeunson5543
      @malcolmeunson5543 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      He had a good pr team…just like NZs Government!

  • @jamesocker5235
    @jamesocker5235 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    MacArthur didn’t have a lapse of judgement he had a huge streak of arrogance

    • @artrobinson9310
      @artrobinson9310 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mmmmmmmm, steak

    • @dalepaladin916
      @dalepaladin916 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I had heard that the loss of the Philippines was the fault of MacArthur and that he actually had advanced knowledge of the Japanese intent to invade the Philippines, and failed to respond accordingly. And that the order by the president Tim McArthur that he must vacate the Philippines was part of the show to cover for McArthur's failure

    • @sephen131
      @sephen131 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Dale Paladin this true about am advance warning, unfortunately the western world(who had fought in WW1) viewed the Japanese an inferior race.

    • @sephen131
      @sephen131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @The_Jaguar_ Knight ironic ain't it? Same with the Nazis

    • @kevintemple245
      @kevintemple245 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      To quote my grandpa, who fought in Korea under him: "MacArthur was a jackass." He entirely blamed MacArthur for getting the Chinese involved militarily and almost losing a war we were days from winning.

  • @quick-and-easy
    @quick-and-easy ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Mt wife's uncle was captured and endured the Bataan Death march. He hated the Japanese until the day he died.

  • @nataliegrn17
    @nataliegrn17 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    MacArthur should have paid attention to the assessment showing the Japanese were en route. Very sad

    • @ridgerunner5772
      @ridgerunner5772 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "They" did not call him DUG OUT DOUG for Nothing.......

    • @ret7army
      @ret7army ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He made repeated requests for additional support prior to outbreak of hostilities. They were ignored

    • @finscreenname
      @finscreenname ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ret7army and what were they supposed to send? A battleship fleet that had no place to refuel and no air cover? One of the 2 aircraft carriers we had at the time? We had no way to support the Philippians and Wash DC knew it. Mac did get brand new planes that were burned on the ground but he didnt really think of them as valuable being he was prepared to fight a WWI battle on an island in 1941.

    • @anthonycaruso8443
      @anthonycaruso8443 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He must have been sleeping on Dec.7,1941

    • @sirridesalot6652
      @sirridesalot6652 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ridgerunner5772 Are you sure it wasn't Bug Out Doug?

  • @WTH1812
    @WTH1812 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    McArthur was seen as a war hero only in his own bluster and propaganda.
    Dueto his failure to prepare to defend the Philippines, complete lack rain forest and jungle tactics, overall lack of tactical competence, dismissal of any talented subordinates questioning his orders, treatment of Allies' generals and Colonels, refusal to heed pre-invasion warnings, and freezing at the most crucial moment when the first attacks began, McArthur was seen as an inept glory hound by the Filipino, Australian, and New Zealand military. And the US Navy, Army, Marines, and Air Corps as well as any Brit sentenced to serve under him.

    • @craigbauer7793
      @craigbauer7793 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The man counted victories on the Kokoda Track by ANZAC casualties. Telling commanders they weren't aggressive enough.

    • @tomricketts7821
      @tomricketts7821 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      And so blindsided by his racism that he totally underestimated the Japanese

    • @The_OneManCrowd
      @The_OneManCrowd ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @The_Jaguar_ Knight Definitely a Patton fan but McArthur suffered from the same fate of all great men..."You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain".

    • @rikkiball6827
      @rikkiball6827 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He wasn't very good at defense. He was called upon for his offensive capabilities because that was his strength.

    • @WTH1812
      @WTH1812 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@rikkiball6827 ... McArthur was called upon to shut him up about making himself the senior commander in the Pacific, with Halsey reporting to him and supporting McArthur's land centric campaign instead of the much more effective island hopping campaign Admiral King and Halsey proposed following.

  • @PaulJohnson-vn7eh
    @PaulJohnson-vn7eh ปีที่แล้ว +150

    My exgf's grandfather survived Bataan and he wrote about it. How anyone could live through that is astounding.

    • @troymerrell5790
      @troymerrell5790 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He is a lucky man because my uncle died during the death March and the family was never able to find out how he died or recover the body

    • @goodteacup
      @goodteacup ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@troymerrell5790He was very lucky and had some terrible stories about it. I am so sorry for your loss.🇺🇸

    • @cartersmith8560
      @cartersmith8560 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dante-esque

    • @titaniusanglesmith9690
      @titaniusanglesmith9690 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@troymerrell5790 I highly doubt you or their family would find any solace in that information. If it wasnt from starvation or disease after being captive. Some veterans like to pretend there is some promise to not share the details but its history. The japanese fancied themselves samurai so they behaved like them in many manners and it applies to this situation. Cowardice/weakness or rather their interpretation of what fit those definitions & also if the guards believed you were a burden was the usual justification that triggered most executions made after original surrender & capture. Food theft was another.
      Its an insane survival situation so no judgement really can be made with remotely any understanding

    • @dalepaladin916
      @dalepaladin916 ปีที่แล้ว

      And with that type of source, you can't offer an opinion from his knowledge as to MacArthurs conduct?

  • @bobmatig-a8840
    @bobmatig-a8840 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    My Dad lost 3 uncles during this Japanese onslaught. 1 in Corregidor, 1 during the Bataan Death March and another as a prisoner in Camp O'Donnell (concentration camp). All of them were brothers. I was so moved to see him get emotinal while clutching his uncles' unit colors when we visited the Bataan Heroe's Shrine.

    • @shimadwan8251
      @shimadwan8251 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      RIP

    • @jharris0341
      @jharris0341 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Respect to your great uncles from a grateful Texan.

    • @debrathomas1904
      @debrathomas1904 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      History has rightfully recognized your uncles as members of "America's Grestest" Generation. So proud of these gallant young men who gave everything they had to protect our country.

    • @patricknowlan8821
      @patricknowlan8821 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I lost a great grandfather on the Sandakan death marches of the almost 2500 British and Aussie soldiers sent their only six survived

    • @jharris0341
      @jharris0341 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patricknowlan8821 Respect to your great grandfather.

  • @infoscholar5221
    @infoscholar5221 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I knew a man who survived the death march. I worked in a library, in a small town, and he opened up to me about his experience. Later, his wife came to me, in astonishment, because she said, "he's never told anyone about those things that happened to him, back then." I think I should have been a priest.

    • @JeromeGardiner
      @JeromeGardiner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you should have written the account for his family.

    • @SIXPACFISH
      @SIXPACFISH ปีที่แล้ว

      My Uncle never told anyone about what happened to him when he was shot in the leg at the Kasserine Pass. And I pestered him a lot to talk about it. I am fairly sure his unit was one of the units that were decimated.

    • @JeromeGardiner
      @JeromeGardiner ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SIXPACFISH Intelligence failure was the problem, we had no business sending raw recruits into battle against a much better trained and much better equipped army. We had underestimated how big their force was we also underestimated their commitment to hold the pass. My father was captured in the bulge and it was the exact same failures that created that debacle. He was in the 106th division spread across 20 miles when the standard was five miles, with new recruits who had no battle experience.

  • @twentypdrparrott694
    @twentypdrparrott694 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    My uncle was at Bataan. He survived the death march but died of beriberi at Cabanatuan P.O.W. Camp

    • @ThePrader
      @ThePrader ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You mean he was murdered by the Japanese military. Words matter. History matters. Thank men such as your uncle. As a soldier at Bataan in 1941-1942 he would have had to have been a prewar volunteer. What bravery. What cruelty. RIP

  • @paulmorneault3994
    @paulmorneault3994 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    MacArthur was the best general the Japanese had!

  • @kevinquist
    @kevinquist ปีที่แล้ว +124

    My Grandfather fought in the pacific in WWII. he said "some of the things he saw the Japanese do? Humans just dont do that to humans". and he would shutter and go silent for a few hours.

    • @finscreenname
      @finscreenname ปีที่แล้ว

      Until the middle east and ISIS

    • @kevinquist
      @kevinquist ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@finscreenname AMEN! humans can be awful creatures.

    • @cameronmcconnachie7794
      @cameronmcconnachie7794 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      My Great Uncle was in the Battle of the Bulge, he’s always said the same thing about the Germans. He loved his walks in the woods but he’d never go during winter

    • @simonyoung1265
      @simonyoung1265 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My Geandfather fought in PNG buna Australian engineer corp..he said the same of them and hated everything japanese till the day he died...

    • @kevinquist
      @kevinquist ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@simonyoung1265 Yeah. my Grandfather had a term for them that I wont repeat. wouldnt even shake a Japanese persons hand. Same. hated them till he died. He would just scoff and walk away. Cant say I have the right to judge him. I cant live through what he did. He lived months on bananas and coconuts he found. going from 210 lbs (he was a tall, strong man) down to 130 lbs. I have never been shot at by them or any one.

  • @thomasheer825
    @thomasheer825 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Describing MacArthur as a marginal Military leader would be a massive overstatement. He was one of those leaders we see in many areas of employment, who are overconfident that they are the greatest while they ignore the truth going on. Then when they fail, there is ALWAYS an excuse that it wasn't their fault.

    • @megadoomerr
      @megadoomerr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You make a good point. He was determined to escape the consequences of his arrogant field mistakes. There is something to said for a leader bold enough to face overwhelming odds for no other reason than to defend his fellow marine and soldier. I can't judge too harshly though. I was never in one of the military services. I just can't help think about all those brave men who's lives MacArthur concluded were of lesser value than his own.

    • @thomasheer825
      @thomasheer825 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@megadoomerr MacArthur always thought that he was the one with the Correct answer to the operation. Noticed that he IGNORED the established plan because he was convinced that HIS plan was far superior. Yes, that plan required more logistical work before first contact. Then when MacArthur's far superior, in his mind, collapsed within hours, he then switched to the Established Plans. By then it was far late to implement, later on, he complained that he was hobbled by a plan that couldn't work. He forgets to mention that he failed to follow the plan from the onset, and when he changed his mind and implemented the established plan, it was too late. Some have war gamed the Original War Plan, it seems as if it most likely would have worked, yes they would have lost much of the PI, but they could have withdrawn the troops in an orderly manner and at the same time bled the Japanese badly.

    • @megadoomerr
      @megadoomerr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomasheer825 I completely agree with you.

  • @michaelschneider6106
    @michaelschneider6106 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A high school friend's dad survived the death march and being a POW throughout the war. He never recovered his prewar weight.

  • @kentonyoderii3443
    @kentonyoderii3443 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Never forgotten ,Uncle Norman Griffin , Battery Gerry , Corregedor P.I. , death march , cabanatuan pow camp , hell ship to mainland japan, slave in the Mitsubishi coal mines. Lived to write about it and raise a fine family !! Rest in peace mighty warrior of my family !!

  • @JJ-qn3kg
    @JJ-qn3kg ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for the morning history session !

  • @catskinner3254
    @catskinner3254 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Dug Out Doug was one of the worst and incompetent generals in American history. He should have been arrested for his treatment of WW1 veterans in DC.

    • @GiantPopIts89
      @GiantPopIts89 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What?!? Never heard of this guy. What’s the scoop???

  • @othosos
    @othosos ปีที่แล้ว +35

    DarkDocs these WW2 videos are great keep em coming

  • @gregiles908
    @gregiles908 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There's a town called Terowie in South Australia, about 200kms north from Adelaide. It was at the Terowie Train Station that the rail guage changed, passengers had to change trains there. The press knew that MacArthur was traveling by train from Melbourne, through Adelaide and then up north to Darwin, but that he had to alight at Terowie. While MacArthur was changing trains at Terowie he first said those famous words as part of a larger speech "I have come out of the Bataan, and I shall return". There's a small plaque on Terowie Train Station commemorating the event, and there's newsreel footage of it also.

  • @life_with_bernie
    @life_with_bernie ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When I was a boy I had several neighbors and a few relatives who were WWII vets. One of them was a Death March survivor. He told me that, after the war, the US Congress passed a resolution that no Death March military survivor could ever be reduced in rank. I've never been able to confirm this, and I suspect it was just a tall tale told to a snot-nosed little kid, but if true it would have been a fitting tribute to the sacrifices and determination of those individuals.

  • @michaelallen8276
    @michaelallen8276 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I don’t understand why McArthur is venerated. I simply don’t. To me he was one of the worst allied generals of WW2

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because he still won even though he was initially very bad.
      And he was easily the best peacetime occupier

    • @peterharris38
      @peterharris38 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jason200912 yes , great response

    • @DreAmeoba1
      @DreAmeoba1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was only semi competent after the war during Japan's reconstruction, then went on to get fired by Truman during the Korean War...(basically a good "peacetime general")..

    • @jameswyatt2739
      @jameswyatt2739 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree with all of you. I had someone tell me he was great armchair general. In his defense he fought with nothing for long period. I think things may have been different if Gen. Wainwright had not surrendered. Those troops and equipment could harassed the Japanese deep into 1942 even 1943.

    • @jayman327
      @jayman327 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I can’t believe they gave him a Medal of Honor.

  • @jeremywells9019
    @jeremywells9019 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    MacArthur didn't like retreating. Unless he was sneaking out and abandoning his people in the middle of the night on a P.T. boat of course.

    • @cmleoj
      @cmleoj ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Reports from the time indicated he was fixated on maintaining his prestige and command during the escape, and didn’t once mention the troops left behind facing the overwhelming force of the Japanese. “Running away for me, not for thee!” 🛥

  • @lyntwo
    @lyntwo ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just think what a functioning torpedo would have meant to the Submarine arm of the USN in those weeks.

    • @Gronk79
      @Gronk79 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spot on comment Mr lyntwo! Right on target.

    • @oldegrunt
      @oldegrunt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and aggressive commanders...the Fleet had to move many of their earlier sub commanders from their slots for being too timid

    • @lyntwo
      @lyntwo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oldegrunt Are you speaking of the Submarine arm in particular or of the fleets deployed to the Southwestern Pacific in general?

    • @oldegrunt
      @oldegrunt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lyntwo from what I read it seemed to be a Pacific problem early in the war. Added to the torpedo problem and it limited the effectiveness of our submarines in those dark days of the war

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 ปีที่แล้ว

      The whole 1st year

  • @williambarrett70
    @williambarrett70 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Growing up, had a neighbor who survived the Bataan Death March.

  • @birddog7492
    @birddog7492 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I knew Johnson Pritt. I saw a tattoo on his arm one day and ask what it was. He told me that it was his numbers the Japanese put on him when he was taken prisoner at Bataan. We talked a little about it from time to time. He was a good man I miss him. He was a US Marine back in the day.

  • @theilluminatedone9214
    @theilluminatedone9214 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Douglas MacArthur truly was America's Bernard Montgomery.

    • @scrappydoo7887
      @scrappydoo7887 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No. Montgomery had actual use beyond being a name.

    • @michaelmccotter4293
      @michaelmccotter4293 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes he was.
      A couple of egotistical, elitist, jackasses the both of them. They both foolishly got a lot of good men killed.

    • @jukkahaukka9682
      @jukkahaukka9682 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@scrappydoo7887 Monty? overrated and overcareful guy. Always acting when numbers were his side.

    • @scrappydoo7887
      @scrappydoo7887 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jukkahaukka9682 wrong.

    • @uranusismightybig5111
      @uranusismightybig5111 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@scrappydoo7887 and that says it all about the British wartime high command😂👍

  • @drmarkintexas-400
    @drmarkintexas-400 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for sharing
    🤗🇺🇲🙏🏆

  • @donalddowning4108
    @donalddowning4108 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Masanobu Tsuji was an interesting SOB. At one time he worked for the CIA. At another time he possibly was part of an attempted coup against the Japanese government and also possibly worked for the North Vietnamese army. He was never tried for his atrocities in the P.I.

  • @havennewbowtow8835
    @havennewbowtow8835 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Mc Arthur was full of his own wind and piss, very aware of himself being the focus.

  • @blackbird5634
    @blackbird5634 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Philippine Rangers today, are a serious fighting force. The Chinese, if they think they'd like to unload some of their FAKE fishing vessels and disgorge some infantry to invade, are in for a terrible surprise. It will cost them severely.
    Never again will that island nation be caught off guard by an invading force.

  • @dalepaladin916
    @dalepaladin916 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had heard that the loss of the Philippines was the fault of MacArthur and that he actually had advanced knowledge of the Japanese intent to invade the Philippines, and failed to respond accordingly. And that the order by the president Tim McArthur that he must vacate the Philippines was part of the show to cover for McArthur's failure

  • @davidwhitney1171
    @davidwhitney1171 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The film clips used in this video- which I assume were made for newsreels and documentaries- were NOT from the period discussed, which was late 1941 to mid-1942, but from later in the war. In 1941 and through approximately mid-1942, American GIs and Marines were still wearing WWI- type uniforms, including the famous, British-derived WWI "Tin Hat" or 'soup bowl" helmets. Not until Guadalcanal in August 1942 were American troops equipped with the updated 'brain bucket" helmets (which would be used until the 1980s) and uniforms shown here....

    • @Pwnulolumad
      @Pwnulolumad ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You must be new to this channel, there are countless comments pointing out inaccuracies ranging from minor illustrative errors, to inaccurate figures, or flat out misinformation… it was even worse in the first year of the channel.

  • @poetinhybernation
    @poetinhybernation ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My granduncle served as chaplain in WW2. He survived The Death March and became one of the youngest bishops in the Philippines.

  • @svt9800
    @svt9800 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The worst part is that the japanese knew it was a bluff and if the americans and philipinos would had resisted a little longer the japanese would had retreated for logistics problems

  • @dogphlap6749
    @dogphlap6749 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The title of this piece has me confused. Who's evil comeback does it refer to ? Surely not the US or their General Macarthur so I guess that leaves the Japanese, but I see no Japanese comeback referenced here just near complete military victory followed eventually by total defeat.

    • @joshmccoy1522
      @joshmccoy1522 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I gathered it was referring to Homma's second attempt, after the first was stalled. That's all I could think of as far as a "comeback."

  • @TheFlutecart
    @TheFlutecart ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Macarthur should have been fired after such a mistake and disregard for reality. Reduced to a desk in DC. But he was allowed to blunder on, just like Monty did. Ego driven Generals, though useful do not win wars, logistics and manageable situations win the war. Ike and Nimitz were the masters of that craft.

  • @gilbertjones9157
    @gilbertjones9157 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    What if, MacArthur followed the planning of Orange 3 but prepared to work a defensive response to Japan? This would mean that he dispersed more aircraft to airfields spread across the archipelago and development of clandestine supply dumps with a network of communications between corps Ranger Scouts primary fortifications with three back ups; allowing them to make the Japanese spend from 3 to 4 men lost per meter of ground taken. Then when faced with over whelming odds, retreat to back up redoubts and finally disperse into the wild. The key across the archipelago is logistics and supply staging. Make the enemy campaign for every yard of ground on every large island in the archipelago and patrol around every small island, which would tie down massive amounts of men and equipment both army and navy.

    • @megadoomerr
      @megadoomerr ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Excellent freakin point. Staging a consolidated equipment package based on lead times, method of logistics and level of urgency is a decisive factor

    • @brookeshenfield7156
      @brookeshenfield7156 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      MacArthur was a complete failure as a military leader, but he was excellent at promoting his “abilities”.
      The hours-long delay in any action after word of Pearl Harbor arrived in Manila has never been explained, nor his impulsive rejection of War Plan Orange 3.

  • @tophyl7558
    @tophyl7558 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Japanese general wasn't the first to be defeated by the Americans the admiral who attacked Wake Island was

  • @kudgeond755
    @kudgeond755 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Initially the Japanese campaign was devastating and inefficient in its advance in the Southeast Pacific." At least he corrected the location in the description.

  • @cedricliggins7528
    @cedricliggins7528 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Homma was an outstanding general. History never gives him his due credit

    • @oldegrunt
      @oldegrunt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sadly he was also a scapegoat for MacArthur's failures, The Great Man wanted Homma punished for kicking his ass

    • @cedricliggins7528
      @cedricliggins7528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oldegrunt Dugout Doug had him executed after the war for war crimes he didn't commit

    • @stephenkalatucka6213
      @stephenkalatucka6213 ปีที่แล้ว

      Historians are Hommaphobic.

  • @schlirf
    @schlirf ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing that McArthur wasn't relieved of command.

  • @fbi3679
    @fbi3679 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    An eye for an eye.
    A leg for a leg.
    Two cities for a harbor.

    • @megadoomerr
      @megadoomerr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that a Haiku? If it's not, then it should be.

    • @fbi3679
      @fbi3679 ปีที่แล้ว

      @EpicOldMan76 I am from Burma. My grandma was there when the Japanese occupied the Burma. And for f sake, it's a fuuking meme. Get a life, too work up over a fuuking meme.

  • @ThePrader
    @ThePrader ปีที่แล้ว +3

    MacArthur doesn't appear to have been all that "brilliant" on December 8, 1941. He also appears indecisive in the months that followed. He must have learned at the expense of many American lives. He did eventually learn, but what an ago !!!

  • @gregiles908
    @gregiles908 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I lived just near Macarthur Highway in Tarlac on Luzon in the Philippines. It was an eerie feeling knowing that it was along where the Bataan Death Marches took place in WW2.

  • @manwithmountain
    @manwithmountain ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wished this was posted on the Bataan Anniversary.

  • @robertbeirne9813
    @robertbeirne9813 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Technically a good account of the battle, but didn’t really convey the dire situation of the troops defending Bataan. Lack of food, water, ammunition, etc.

  • @troygroomes104
    @troygroomes104 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Correction the Philippines was invaded by the US in 1944 , not 1945

  • @georgebenta3435
    @georgebenta3435 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Homma was not defeated in the Philippines, his superiors were disappointed because it took so long for the Philippines to fall causing a delay in there time table.

  • @jktv3332
    @jktv3332 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MANY PLACES ARE NAMED AFTER GEN. MAC ARTHUR HERE IN THE PHILIPPINES TO HONOR HIM

  • @paulroberts3639
    @paulroberts3639 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am very glad that McArthur returned to The Phillipines. As an Australian, I have to say that we didn’t want him.

  • @danielbraun6621
    @danielbraun6621 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MacArthur was a total egotist. Horrible man. Truman finally got rid of him.

    • @carlorrman8769
      @carlorrman8769 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said. More people should be a wake up to that bastard.

  • @trajan75
    @trajan75 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Despite the Philippines, Macarthur was the most brilliant of the American WW2 commanders.He captured the most territory of any Allied Commander while incurring the fewest casualties, His New Guinea Campaign was a master use of the tactic of envelopment. He conducted 82 amphibious inavsions all successful. Read Manchester's "American Caesar"" and Dolan's "War at the End of the World". The Japanese were completely mobilized. They swept all before them. The Americans were unprepared all around the world.

  • @tysoncutler3630
    @tysoncutler3630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My visit to Bataan and Corregidor has been one of the most moving almost spiritual experiences I've ever experienced. Many of the artillery peppered and scarred from the air and structures and remains of the HQ cave where still there in '97. I hope it hasn't rusted away and still available to visit.

  • @paulladuke2259
    @paulladuke2259 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I recognize a lot of these film clips as being from other battles later in the war.

    • @stephenkalatucka6213
      @stephenkalatucka6213 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt that there's many film clips from Bataan. US forces there still had the WW1 "doughboy" helmets.

  • @ocsplc
    @ocsplc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    …not forgetting the bravery and sacrifice of our fighting men and even women who fought to the end at Corregidor…

  • @bobbybluntrock8928
    @bobbybluntrock8928 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I didn't care for MacArthur and World War II and he got fired at a Korea so what does that tell you about the man his last words were old soldiers never die they just fade away.

  • @airplayn
    @airplayn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From his brutal suppression of the bonus army during the depression to his final dismissal by Truman, McArthur was a terrible soldier who blustered and bullied his way through failure after failure while his pride and inflated ego cost thousands of lives. He was an embarrassment to the army and our country.

  • @kombik7189
    @kombik7189 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MacArthur was up there with the worst Allied generals. After Bataan he should’ve been relieved of his command. A significant number of US soldiers had no respect for him. And after he arrived in Australia he routinely derided the Australian troops to emphasise the superiority of the US troops. He called the desperately outnumbered and courageous Aussie troops who had broken the Japanese on the Kokoda Track a pack of cowards, failing to recognise that their sacrifices allowed his US troops to beat the Japanese. He ignored intelligence or wilfully misinterpreted it, he said he’d been on the ground in places he’d never even visited, and he was arrogant and incompetent. I read once that he was a WW2 general fighting like he was in WW1. There’s no greater condemnation than that. Montgomery has been accused of hubris. At least he won some battles before screwing up. MacArthur deserves no credit for success in the Pacific.

  • @Mondo762
    @Mondo762 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The US Army was fighting in the Pacific from day one. They did not surrender for over 4 months against an overwhelming Japanese Army. They were subjected to the worst treatment of any POW's in the war.

    • @johnathanh2660
      @johnathanh2660 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Japanese were barbaric to all their POWs. For example the prisoners they took at Singapore, or the Chinese at Nanking.

    • @madaro504
      @madaro504 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What day would that be? 1 sept 39? 8 Dec 41 when McArthur got his ass handed to him?

    • @madaro504
      @madaro504 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A few million pows from the eastern front may disagree with your last sentence.

    • @jamo491
      @jamo491 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm not sure how you quantify suffering but to say American pow had it worse than Chinese, Brits ,the indigenous tribes that fought the Japanese or worse than the Russians had it from the Nazis and vice versa is not correct. What the Japanese did in Korea was horrendous. Let's not make statements that can belittle the suffering of others eh?

    • @ronaldwhitman1377
      @ronaldwhitman1377 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jamo491 it's simple we simply don't give a fuck about them

  • @davidcunningham2074
    @davidcunningham2074 ปีที่แล้ว

    the best doc on corregidor i have seen.

  • @BaronEvola123
    @BaronEvola123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3 countries who got their oil cut off:
    Italy, Japan and Germany.
    3 countries who's debt was piling up:
    Italy, Japan and Germany.
    Interesting how that works.

    • @billwilliams3580
      @billwilliams3580 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Debt piles up fast when preparing for war with an ever increasing population to feed

  • @michaelheater1969
    @michaelheater1969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I lived on the Bataan Death March trail, it's highway now and there's kilometer markers showing how far the men marched, and I could feel something different there and on Mt Samat when I visited it. Even the land was made sad by what happened there 😢

  • @4OHz
    @4OHz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s amazing that we forget that at the time the Philippines and its peoples were Americans

  • @MrCraft1111
    @MrCraft1111 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Our grandfathers were all heros.

  • @commando4481
    @commando4481 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dug out Doug. Love how Americans spend so much time writing about how much they hate Monty while offering little criticism for people like MacArthur.

    • @miketrusky476
      @miketrusky476 ปีที่แล้ว

      MacArthur's plan cost fewer American lives for enemy deaths then any General in WWll. He did not waste A soldiers life. Now look up his requests, before the war, to protect the Philippines that Congress said no to.

  • @YVO007
    @YVO007 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best TH-cam video productions and narrations.
    Thank You Dark Doc's Some things never change such as war still being hell. Only be grateful because if war changed as much as technocracy our lives cern-tainly we have become extinct some time ago. Keep up the good history lessens they are just as relevant today as the day's these and many survival stories were then. YVO

  • @alanmoffat4454
    @alanmoffat4454 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    YES NO PROVISION FOR SO MANY OR SUCH BRUTALITY.

  • @shamanmann001
    @shamanmann001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Douglas McArthur was a terrible leader. Lied to his men, and my grandpa lived thru the Bataan death march and being a pow and always said McArthur told them reinforcements would be there and never told them about his retreat. Worthless military leader leading the brave and best. Rip Grandpa Harry Steen.

  • @frenstcht
    @frenstcht ปีที่แล้ว

    He's such a war hero that he was known as Dug-Out Doug as a testament to cowardice.

  • @YahooMurray
    @YahooMurray ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was stationed at Tan Son Nhut AB in the RSVN in 1971, SPS perimeter guard, E-3. There was a E-4 in my barracks who looked about 50 or 55 years old, or even older. I never recall him ever saying a word to anyone. When we would come off the perimeter at dawn, every morning he would wordlessly drink 6 beers out of his small refrigerator and go to sleep. It was said he had to be told each night where his post was and driven to it in a jeep, instead of the usual trucks that took us out and back every night. I asked my E-6 why the USAF kept him around. I was informed "it would take an Act of Congress to make him retire. He has a home for the rest of his life in some branch of our military. He is a Bataan death march survivor". I held him in awe after that, and still do some 52 years later.

  • @brentbackman2911
    @brentbackman2911 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The town named in this video is called Orion, like Oreo the very popular cookie with an "n" on the end, not the constellation in the night sky. My wife and I have a farmlot here. It's very humbling to live here with all this history all around us.

  • @stevecastro1325
    @stevecastro1325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would retitle it as “Best Comeback Against Evil”.

  • @adub1300
    @adub1300 ปีที่แล้ว

    “The nukes were war crimes and were not necessary to win the war” one was for Pearl, the second was for Bataan. Don’t start a fight you can’t win.

  • @allenlibranda7527
    @allenlibranda7527 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gen. MacArthur didn't follow WPO 3 and did not believe the IJN attacked pearl. That crippled the US Airforce in Clark, destroyed without a fight.

  • @awquinlaful
    @awquinlaful ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those nukes were well earned

  • @zulefunel2172
    @zulefunel2172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the most underrated historical fact is the Japanese feared the moros in Mindanao and is actually losing grounds which they describe as Much more brutal and evil
    the Japanese soldier in that time won't stay in the ground rather they would sleep in their Cruisers or destroyers due to fear of being Kidnap and beheaded, it is also considered unlucky if you are on patrol duty as they are the most the one to hit hard and while the Japanese love the BANZAI Charge in their attack this was considered as useless tactics against the moro as it is mostly favored the moro the most to close in the distance of their enemy by letting the bayonet hit their shoulder and slash the Japanese in their neck at this time also the Filipino Moro are fighting both the Japanese, Philippine Government and the US military at the same time though they are bartering with the US and Phil Gov for Ammunition by exchanging pair of Japanese Soldier Ears.

    • @mariodizon5583
      @mariodizon5583 ปีที่แล้ว

      How will they know that the ear is from the japanese?

  • @gusward2568
    @gusward2568 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MacArthur should have been court-martialed for his poor judgment he lost his whole army protecting his ass

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A wonderful introduction of that war circumstances( assaults & defense)on Phillipines Islands between two invaders ( USA 🇺🇸 & Japan's)... thanks ( Dark Docs) channel

  • @evenbet9603
    @evenbet9603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MacArthur was prepared to die at Bataan. He was ordered out by his Commander and Chief, President Roosevelt. His island hopping strategy was highly successful and saved many American lives. Total casualties for all his WW2 campaigns were less than 30,000. The Marines were not under his command. Patton said he was the bravest soldier he ever met and the Pentagon brass was in awe of him. In peace he was a magnanimous and wise sovereign of Japan. He was eccentric and paranoid and made many enemies but he was arguably our best Field Commander.With regards to Plan Orange, it was superceded by what later became known as Rainbow five: the aim of which was to defeat Nazi Germany first. As William Manchester wrote in his famous biography of MacArthur: "The Phillipines...was being abandoned. No one put it quite that way, and there were no plans for evacuating the Americans off the islands, but that was the gist of it." The reader should also bear in mind that MacArthur at that time was acting as a Field Marshall for the Phillipines military, he had retired three years prior from the U.S. Army and was considered somewhat of an outsider. He was of course reinstated and ordered off Bataan with the promise that he would be given the forces to reconquer the islands--it would have been absurd to lose our best and most experienced General. From Marshall to Eisenhower on down they had all been his subordinates

  • @AwesomeNinja1027
    @AwesomeNinja1027 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just shows that the Filipino soldier will not go down quietly into the night. Anyone who think they can easily get their hands on my motherland the Philippines will find out that we are a nation of fighters. We will make you lose a lot of men before you can occupy us. Japan knows this and it was one bitter pill for them to swallow.

  • @Spoeism
    @Spoeism ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This wasn't "Evil" this was war
    Now UNIT 731 .... that was pure evil.

  • @rimshot2270
    @rimshot2270 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MacArthur's forces invaded the Philippines on October 20, 1944. Japanese resistance continued up to the end of the war.

  • @alexhydell3608
    @alexhydell3608 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. This guy has the most interesting voice on TH-cam

  • @flycatchful
    @flycatchful ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It always amazes me that little is said about the Japanese atrocities during WWII unlike the Germans.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh yeah that whole awakening a sleeping giant thing.

  • @allanfraser3485
    @allanfraser3485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All those men and woman lost their lives and the others who faced the hell of being prisoners of the Japanese until the end of the war just because of one man's arrogance. Macarthur was not fit to be in command of any forces

  • @troyraymund8256
    @troyraymund8256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandfather was a guerilla back then, sneaking supplies like Garands through his tractor, he fought bravely but sadly was Killed by a sniper on the outskirts of Manila during the liberation of 1945

  • @alumycrick2911
    @alumycrick2911 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, you are correct in asserting that the Japanese armed forces were devastatingly efficient in the early months of the Pacific war. That's because their many landings against distracted or unprepared enemies were essentially unopposed. But in 1942 at the Orion-Bagac Line, and later the same year at Milne Bay, just as at Khalkhin Gol in 1939 and in any number of "this time, decisive!" offensives in China in their drawn-out 1937-45 war with that country, the Japanese were defeated when there was a sufficiently strong and competently-led force to oppose them.

  • @The_OneManCrowd
    @The_OneManCrowd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting. All of the stock footage being used is post 1941 notice the absence of Doughboy helmets which America started the war with and wore during this battle.

  • @thomasgumersell9607
    @thomasgumersell9607 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A very sad piece to watch. Yet i did learn alot from your short video. As the Bataan Death March claimed so many service men's lives. After some Japanese Imperial Army leaders were brought to justice. Not enough I honestly believe received what they deserved which was to be executed for War Crimes. Hopefully this type of thing never occurs again. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨

    • @sirridesalot6652
      @sirridesalot6652 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's happening right now in the Ukraine.

    • @thomasgumersell9607
      @thomasgumersell9607 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sirridesalot6652 yes I have heard that certain war crimes are being perpetrated by the Russians. Hopefully the UN comes to the aid of Ukraine.💪🏻🙏🏻✨

  • @ronaldfinkelstein6335
    @ronaldfinkelstein6335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Homma said something that was re-quoted many times, and proved him either as incredibly cynical, or incredibly oblivious as to how his troops behaved. What did he say? "We Japanese are not barbarians".
    This is long after the so-called "Rape of Nanking" where the Japanese soldiers spent about 6 weeks, after the city fell, savaging the Chinese civilians. The only question there is how many Chinese they killed...at least 100,000 dead. So, it was obvious that Homma's statement was a lie, whether he knew it or not.
    Making things worse, was a 'holier than thou' Imperial General Staff officer, a Colonel Tsuji, who went around fomenting atrocities against the American POWs. He was quoted as saying "To show them mercy is to prolong the war". [IMHO, the reverse was the truth]

  • @rexringtail471
    @rexringtail471 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish you wouldnt have glossed over the PT boat escape. THEY WERE EXPENDABLE is one of the most thrilling military adventures of the USA in WW2

  • @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4
    @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ignoring Dugout Doug and how terrible that egotistical maniac is. What saddens me is how the defenders and resistance forces were done dirty. especially the generals, commanders, and leaders who continued the fight even after the fall.

  • @logon235
    @logon235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WPO3 would not have helped given that most of the Pacific fleet had been sunk. MacArthur's plan was optimistic about the ability of the American and Filipino forces to meet the Japanese head on. Perhaps he could have gathered more resources for holding Bataan but maybe not enough for the years it took for the Americans to finally focus on the Pacific. It would have been an interesting What If.