Working with External Instruments in Studio One 5
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- PreSonus Software Specialist Gregor Beyerle shows you how to work with external Synthesizers and Drum Machines in Studio One 5. FINALLY, two-track-workflows are a thing of the past.
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Slick presentation, but you are going MILES TOO FAST regarding inputs and outputs. Setting up external instruments like a Montage or Modx that are also controllers is not at all simple. It is actually very complicated for a beginner. Many people cannot HEAR the recording they have done via midi because the I/O setup is not easy to understand. You do not make it clear what the AUX channel is and what it actually does. Many users cannot hear the midi output as AUDIO because the in/out setup is complicated. You need to SLOW DOWN and give MUCH more detail and thorough explanations.
Just slow the TH-cam video speed to 0.75.
I get the impression he's always late for something, most probably a date . Or his mum's just put dinner on the table, a traffic warden has just turned up and he's tryin to move his car before he gets a ticket, it's 16:55 and he wants to go home. 🤷🏼♂️ One of the above....
@@rustic35that's the one!
Hi, please note that this is a video in a playlist - connecting inputs and outputs is covered in much more detail in earlier episodes. For example, here: th-cam.com/video/wt0ndsyM5Vk/w-d-xo.html
-GBY
I found these instructions in the Reference Manual and it may make it easier: Here's the process:
1.Click [External] in the Console Navigation column to open the External Devices panel.
2.Click the menu arrow for the external device.
3.Select Edit from the menu to open the control mapping window.
4.Click the Outputs button ().
5.Select Add Aux Channel at the bottom of the window. An Aux Channel appears in the Console.
6.If your external instrument has multiple outputs connected to your audio interface, add as many Aux Channels as you need.
7.Important: Click Save Default before closing the window; we'll explain that later.
8.Route the Aux Channel to the desired output. Your external device is now available the Console
Yo Gregor, I am so grateful for Presonus choosing you to assist us with all of our Studio One questions. You do an amazing job explaining and teaching us the tools we need to prosper on our musical journeys. Thank You!!!!!!!
Thank you so much! That makes my day. -GBY
Hi Gregor, you're brilliant!! This actually worked for connecting my Alesis digital piano to Studio One. I had to figure out that a double click is required on the External Devices tab in the mixer section to open up the controller settings box, but after that it worked. Even getting sound to be generated from my piano with local midi disconnected within it which I thought impossible. That's genius, thank you very much, I would never have worked this process out on my own this side of 5 years :-)
Gregor I’m grateful that Presonus chose you to help us with Studio One. You are easy to follow and sound great. Thank you!
Thank you so much! Really appreciate that. -GBY
I am often starting projects with backing tracks created by an arranger keyboard where the arrangement can consist of up to 16 seperate tracks. Setting these up as shown in the video is still a time consuming task and maybe Presonus should consider to bring in Track Templates in one of the future updates.
I was about to sell my Waldorf Blofeld because of how annoying it was with to set it up in Cubase (I'm a newcomer to Studio One). So in my mind I thought it would be as diificult in S1 and thar I had to do it with two channels, one for the synth and one for the audio. And then....here...in Studio One you showed me how easy it is to add an external synth and to add a bus channel. This is absolutely amazing. And I can also change the Bank and Program within Studio One. And a piece of cake to add my Blofeld as both an instrument and a control surface. I'm very happy about this. This is Christmas. :)
Gregor, you are a God! I have been trying to figure this out since I registered my software a few days ago and the reference manual is absolutely horrible. My Kurzweil PC3 isn't in the list of vendors in the control panel so these tutorials finally put the myth of adding this keyboard to S1 to rest. Thank you.
I've referred back to this one a lot. However, I am not able to export like he did and get anything but an empty file. I tried exporting stems, too. I know I could create an audio track and record that way, but that's not what Gregor told me I could do!
I'm so confused 😕 . I just bought a korg krome ex and a roland um-1 midi usb interface and I have cables, but I still can't play or hear the sounds from the korg krome in my daw( studio one4) HEEEELLLPPPP!!!!!
This sounds awesome, however, on my system it doesn't seem that low latency monitoring applies to the AUX channel, so if I have drop out protection on high (so there is a lot of latency) and then I switch on low latency monitoring, and then I monitor the external device, the Aux channel doesn't seem to be included in the low latency monitoring. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Perhaps this is a feature request?
Studio One 6 doesn't still solve this issue. To be honest, I don't think they're serious about users actually using this feature.
My guitar is plugged into my Digitech Dt whammy pedal with the pedal plugged into the "guitar in" on the front of the Helix Rack. The Digitech Whammy pedal is connected from the pedal "midi in" from the digitech whammy pedal into the "midi out" on the back of my Helix Rack with a 5 pin midi cable. For example i want to record a guitar track and program the external digitech whammy pedal within studio one 6 to change sounds such as program change,modulation and expression " Please refer to the band Humanitys last breath' As this band does exactly what I am trying to Achieve by using the Digitech DT whammy pedal with automation. So with that being said. Once i record a guitar track in S1, and within my guitar amp sim i select "Read" I then add a seperate instrument track below my Guitar track. Within my Instrument track I select the Digitech pedal that is setup as a new intrument in the external devices panel as well as setting the Digitech whammy pedal external device to "Read". When i go within the intrument tracks controller setup the Dt whammy CC notes start from 0-127 with CC0 starting with "Bank select MSB" then CC1 being Modulation and so on being CC11 for expression but there is no "program Change" within the list of CC commands for the Dt whammy controller setup. Am i missing something? Ive reset the Digitech whammy pedal and also its pedal calibration. There is also a lot of midi configurations in the Helix Rack Itself that i may be doing wrong. I just know there isnt a specific video for this in studio one and when ive asked why its due to midi complexity.
Thanks for this now can you do it a little slower so we mere mortal know what you are doing and can follow it. I know I'll still have to watch it a few times but it will be easier to process for users new to studio one.
there are latencey isues you have side stepped here even bouncing the track down givess audio inaccuracies and timing errors
This is not Studio One's issue, but likely an issue of your interface reporting an inaccurate latency. Please watch this tutorial to learn how to fix these issues: th-cam.com/video/lOI1Thjc1Ts/w-d-xo.html
@@presonus my interface is the Presonus Studio 192 so you would think this would be compatible and an accurate latency report. thanks for the reply i will be setting things up as you suggest in the video. just one more question, as the project gets more complex with plugins and virtual instruments, as the pc comes under load and slows down would this not affect the latency
@@deesoundrecordingstudio9739 Latency doesn't change because of CPU load. You can always transform tracks to audio to save CPU. This preserves all your plug-ins and settings.
Just wanted to thank gregor and all involved ..been a great help many thanks
I am using Alchemy inside Logic as an 'external' synth triggered by my Midi controller and the audio is being recorded in S1. Works great. Love the Alchemy sounds. However, I would love to have the MIDI in S1 drive Alchemy. Probably impossible, but a fun use case.
Too bad there's no latency compensation during playback. I like to use Maschine for drums and my Behringer TD-3 using its internal sequencer, but it always sounds slightly off. The weird thing is that when I record the TD-3 to an audio track, that audio is then properly latency compensated. The latency compensation just doesn't seem to work during playback.
Kris how did you set your TD3 up? i'm really struggling! so i can get it to play through the Default tab, it records and that but the tempo is always wrong and it does look like theres latency too, how does yours run? through the instrument tab or through the Default ??
Hi, I have the Problem, that when I connect my MODX like this to Studio One ... hat if I add one MODX to my Production ... I can hear this sounds also If I use any other instrument. Have you an Idea what I have to change that hear my Synth or My Virtual Instruments when I like to record. I guess Problem is that I use MODX as well as my MIDI Imput Device for the Virtual Instruments? How can I fix that?
Great video, I'm however a bit confused why Bounce Selection (Ctrl+B) always renders a stereo file even though my Moog is mono.
Great video.
I have a Yamaha Modx8
At this moments read midi and can record audio no problem.
It cannot write midi within Studio One (works fine within FLSTUDIO).
What am i missing?
Greetings from Switzerland
Too have created a DAW like studio one Gregor and all the PreSonus team are very very talented😉. PreSonus is now leading from the front
Dear Gregor. I am extremely grateful to you for looking at Midi, as I am an old proponent of the system that has almost been left behind.
Please, StudioOne seems to have no option to display or work with external instrument preset listings. These seem to be completely out of reach. of course there can be thousands of them. do you know of any way that the preset listings for external instruments can at least be displayed within StudioOne.
@esemceX hello. yes SQ is a masterful work. and you are certainly correct to recommend it. I have spent many emails speaking with Mr.L who designed the software and built it himself. He is a man of deep honour, and a pure gentleman. yes, SQ offers an important landmark in that it will run as a VST behind S1 and allows full access to the preset listings in an environment which (after study) is fairly easy to navigate. However, at present release (2023) this software package will only offer access to a single instance of an external synth. EG. if you have 2xU220 and 3xU110 then you can only see one of each of them. Mr.L assures me that he will fix this issue in due course, though considering the complexity and diversity of the vast range of synths which SQ is capable of addressing, I would allow him a bit of time to get to the issue of multiple instances. - Hope this makes sense. 🙂
You addressed my concern right at the end, but only briefly. When we do the real-time bounce, are there any other steps needed to record the audio? Any options like record insert versus keeping it as an insert? Does the aux track turn into an audio track? It would've been nice for you to continue this through the bounce process.
Thanks for the tutorial!
Hi Bezo, sorry for not addressing all of your questions here. There are no other steps required. All inserts applied on the aux channel will be rendered into the audio file if you export Mixdown. You also have the option to directly reimport this file onto a new audio track if you want to resample - but this is not necessary (unlike in the old days). I hope this helps! -GBY
PreSonus Audio Electronics, yes it does help. Thanks for responding. I was actually thinking about reimporting to an audio track, not bouncing the mix to audio like I said. Similar to when I use virtual instruments, I like to convert everything to audio before I mix.
I guess my real question is, is converting hardware audio a similar process to converting virtual instrument audio, with similar options regarding inserts?
Many thanks!
I've had an issue and I've seen others express the same. It seems that when you have the external instrument set to an aux channel, the bounced audio has extreme latency that cant be fixed by the usual methods. What I have found works is to set up the instrument just like this video says, and after you insert the external instrument into a project, disable the aux track in the instrument controller setup menu where you first created the aux channel. When you arm the track it will still play the audio from the aux channel, but when you bounce the audio it will provide a different bounce instrument option that will keep the audio in sync with the midi.
the only thing to be careful of is when you bounce the audio, it will ask you to manually set the I/O for each external instrument you're bouncing.
That's very interesting. Thanks for sharing, will investigate! -GBY
@@presonus Appreciate it! It seems someone inquired about the same issue answers.presonus.com/59357/bounce-external-instruments-aux-channel-recording-latency
Thanks for the demo. I am trying to make a multi instrument with external instruments. Is there a video for that too? Thank you.
Hello sir. Thanks for your tips and tricks. But can we change bank or patches on hardware realtime with using Studio one?
This was helpful but one thing I’m having trouble with is getting the external drum machine (EMU MP-7) to start on the 1st beat. It picks up at bar 2 and goes on as expected but when it comes in, it’s like rush of sound then business as usual. I would love to know how to get my sequencers/drum machines to fire as expected when using Studio One as the master. Could it be the interface? I’m
using the 1824c…
Thanks for any help!!
It's always cool how things are explained..but..why always in such a hurry??? It's sometimes really hard to follow that quick..such as a beginner from germany like me..! Next time slowing down a bit would be awsome..thx!
Hi G.L., this video is actually part 2 of another video that covers a lot more of the basics: th-cam.com/video/Wc-SOxMVIkU/w-d-xo.html
-GBY
I agree with your comments. Gregor really knows his stuff but I find myself constantly pausing the video to absorb what's being said since it all seems to fly by at 100 mph. A slightly slower pace would be much appreciated! Amazing content full of valuable information.
Thank you for the info as i (finally) achieved the new "one track" settings for studio one 5 and my 4 external synths.
But Greg is like Speedy Gonzales, i have to rewind many times, and next time i will run in slow motion not to miss a setting.
Am i too old for this kind of stuff ?
Please HELP !
I’m on Studio One 5 and this does not work for me. If I add my Take 5 synth as an instrument, I can hear my synth, but it will not record neither audio, nor midi from it.
I use this workflow with bitwig instruments but s1 can’t play from mid note for some reason
Why would I connect audio inputs? Auda City takes my Elektron Model:Samples normally only via USB. But Studio One keeps telling me that my audio interface is set incorrectly. If Auda City can do it, I don't see why Studio One can't.
cubase xml can be prepared for patches in cubase, your closest competitor. Why don't you have this feature? It is our right to see the feature in cubase in studio one. We love studio one and don't want to look for other daws for such simple features.
Great tutorial but it does not work for Yahama PSR-EW310. Just FYI
Hi Gregor, found out when I am using an old Midi sampler I need to create 2 new Audio Tracks. One to listen and one for midi. Im putting them into a folder track. Now it would be great to save that folder to create a already filled Folder Track easily in a new Song. I'm giving feedback, cause I didn't found a feedback section on persons site. Gretes
For some reason i am not seeing the option to route my external instruments to an auc channel? Can i create qn aux channel and have it respond to my midi? What am i missing?
Same here. And I think I know the reason. Look carefully at Gregor's set up. He is not routing the external midi synth directly via USB into Studio One. He is using a QUANTUM audio and midi interface and routing the external synth into that, and THEN into Studio One. Without that intermediate device, you cannot just set up an Aux channel. I'm pretty sure of this because I spent hours and hours trying to do it. When he sets up the Aux Channel it is the Quantum device that is providing the link to the "output" option in the external instrument dialogue. Without that step there is no "output" option so nowhere to route the AUX Channel. This is a bad oversight by Presonus and is counter to their explanation about setting an Aux fader.
At 4:00 my screen does not have that arrow next to the "Auto: Off" button so I'm completely stuck
Doesnt Work with the NTS1 and SM Pro Audio M-Patch Active 1..... I am desperated......
Hi Gregor
Would be realy great to add for Studio One the ability to make user Panel Editor with choice of Knobs/Faders/Sliders etc... to place like we want, adding option to midi CC/NRPN/Sysex and Paires of Midi CC like Novation use on Bass Station 2 Peak/Summit.
This way we can creat and share with others, nice way to use Synth like Plugins make Automations, save patches etc...
Perfect timing! I'm new to Studio One and I'm trying out v5 to see how well it handles MPE data and editing.
Figuring out the keyboard vs instrument setup is somewhat, mmm, inconvenient. :P
Still, it seems to work pretty well in the end.
Thanks!
Hi Ricchard, this design is very convenient if you don't want to play all of your synthesizers from their dedicated keyboards, but use one central master keyboard instead. Ergonomically, I'd say that's definitely the way to go in most cases. -GBY
@@presonus In Ableton Live this setup was much more easier. I didn't need even to read the manual or look up a youtube video on it like with Studio One. Maybe you should look into how it's done in other DAWs
@@presonusGregor would this be a good idea to connect an MPC One this way to bypass having to use the MPC software and sequence straight into S1? Thanks.
Perfect, but I have some confusion, how to audio record these MIDI external instruments? Thank you.
I have done the process the way showed but there is a problem I'm facing. whenever I want to change sound from hardware, it is not possible. for example in 1st track I've recorded pluck and then in 2nd individual track i want to record bas then it is not working. both the track has the sounds instead of different different sounds as I want to record. kindly tell how to do that?
I'm trying to understand how I can add a stereo instrument track ... Can somebody help... I'm trying to add in different ways and they come in mono but show they are stereo in the mixer... I'm confused 🤔 h.ere
I’m trying to record an instrumental track using the “impact” instrument but when I hit record and play it doesn’t record. It acts like it’s recording but once I stop it just goes away
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think this works as it should since there is no delay compensation which means huge delay in playback. I discovered that it's better to use Pipeline which does have delay compensation meaning I can use my synths without huge lag. I actually stopped using my synths because of this until I found Pipeline, coming from Ableton. Please do correct me if I'm wrong!
Hi Richard, Aux Channels are fully plugin delay compensated as of version 5.2. -GBY
@@presonus hey. I'm on 5.2 and in a project I have a Midi part on an Aux track sending to my Peak. When I hit play there's a delay in playback, however, when I play that midi part, muting the aux track and have the input come in through pipeline there is absolutely no lag.
@@presonus This has nothing to do with plugin delay compensation. What the Aux channels need is delay compensation for audio interface roundtrip latency. Without that the Aux channels are useless and external synths will always lag behind VSTi's.
Isn't Pipeline for external audio effects? How do you use it with synths?
@@kris_lx yes I meant audio interface latency. It just works in Ableton using their external instrument device. It accounts for the lag.
Anyway in S1 I use Pipeline as a workaround on the aux and there's absolutely no lag.
S1 need to fix this big time. I'd also like to be able to turn on and off the aux channels, much like Abletons External instrument device, so that I don't have to export in real time. A simple device like pipeline but for instruments would be good.
Everything seems correctly set up but no signal from studio one to external device. Not so easy as portrayed here, often things begin to work correctly by accident rather than following directions specifically.
Hi Greg! Could you explain more how to plug a computer with another daw and sync it with SO 5? Thanks!! Sorry for my basic english... Greetings fron Argentina
Thank you for your knowledge
Is Studio One version 5 available in the free version as well? Honestly all I want to do is record a voiceover or podcast. I haven’t even been able to get my mic setup in this app. I end up using Audition
Hi Code Deb, yes, there will be a Prime version soon. Please watch this tutorial to learn how to set up your microphone in Studio One: th-cam.com/video/wt0ndsyM5Vk/w-d-xo.html
-GBY
I don't understand. I have the midi into my computer from a synth. Now you're saying I have to link it directly with cables. Where do those plug into a computer? You send send it into a mixer. Okay how do I get that sound into the computer?
von M-Audio Oxygen Pro Mini gibt es weder ein Direkt Link noch lassen sich beispielsweise die Transporttasten über Midi Learn connecten... wird dieses Problem irgendwann mal angegangen? Mackie/Hui klappt auch nicht. :( sehr schade
I cannot get Studio One to play any external instruments I have connected. I've got USB MIDI connected and I can use my controller keyboards perfectly well but getting Studio One to play MIDI out to a hardware synth doesn't seem to work. I assume it is something in the set-up but this video just glosses over the set-up with out explaining what each thing is for. e.g. I have no idea what the "Receive From" and "Send To" settings are for. Are they for the instrument you are setting up or for Studio One? i.e. Is it "Studio One Receive From" or is it "Instrument Receive From"? I can't find anything abut it in the help and I cannot get my hardware to respond to MIDI from Studio One.
Thank you, all the information i need to connect my old Korg Karma is there, i will just have to replay it at half speed as my brain isn't that quick :-)
Hahaha, no worries Paul! :) Take your time. You might also want to watch the previous episode, if you want to record notes from the Korg Karma keyboard (instead of using a dedicated Midi master keyboard for that): th-cam.com/video/Wc-SOxMVIkU/w-d-xo.html
-GBY
PreSonus Audio Electronics Thanks for the link Gregor, will do
Great stuff, thanks. Do have a tutorial for connecting a synth, like my new Roland Fantom 08, to Studio One via USB audio? I’m using SO5 on Win 11 and the Roland USB driver is working fine but not sure how to map tracks from the Roland to Studio One. Also using a Studio 192 in setup but want to avoid using analog outputs from Synth. Thanks!
I would love to be able to use Arturias Vocoder properly in studio one!!
I need to use an external sequencer, part of a PC3x workstation, to control a Studio One virtual instrument. Using the keyboard to play virtual instruments works fine. And having Studio One tracks play the Synth module in my PC3x works fine. BUT- in weeks of searches, I can't find a way use a previously sequenced track (on PC3x) to play that track using a virtual instrument in Studio One. Help?
Hello everyone, I have Studio One Presonus 5. When I hit the drum instrument, the sound doubled. I have the delay turned off. Does anyone know how to fix this, so I don't hear double drum sounds?
im having external insturment lag where when i play a note on my yamaha, it comes out dalayed on studio one
What I don’t understand though, is with the local control off how do you play your instrument to record anything? You can play it from the computer but not from the actual keyboard??
Hi, Gregor! I have some issues with external instruments. I did everything as same as in this video, but when I press or write any note in piano roll external instruments plays only the first note and the sound which generates from this note never stop to sounds. Maybe I have to do some other midi settings? I will be so happy, if you can help me! :))
Very helpful! I have to setup new keyboard and new instrument Just to hear sound? Any ideas why?
what if you have a synth which xmits both midi and audio over USB? I have a Jupiter XM that I'm having trouble connecting to S1
Can we connect external keyboard to presonus audiobox for recording?
2:54, so also Presonus uses RME FF400 ;)
Absolutely great video! Thank you for all you do! I was wondering if you could do a video even if it was a 1-minute video I'm bouncing after you have recorded the external instrument. I'm having issues with that. Thank you!
th-cam.com/video/BzezPPG8eys/w-d-xo.html
There's a video here on this topic :)
Hey Gregor, the "checkbox" for program in the inspector is not available. How do i get to become available so i can use bank/prog. Program is available but the "checkbox" is not. Please help.
Hi Isaac, the check box should become available as soon as the channel's output is routed to the Midi Port of an external Instrument. -GBY
You go through the video entirely too quickly. I had to watch it over a dozen times before I could get everything done. I finally was able to set up aux channels for two external instruments, but the volume faders on those two channels don't work properly. When I move the volume faders all the way down, there's still sound heard from those channels. Can you tell me why that is and how to fix the problem?
are external instruments not be delay compensated? IN this case they are useless. I tried also converting the external instrumentt to an audio track, but the delay issue is still there. so you record the whole input buffer when recording external instruments with this "external instrument". i can not see what sense this makes ?!? Can someone help me?
When I do it the old way and play Midi with an instrumenttrack and make an additional audiotrack, after recording the input buffer is compensated (as expected). why does this not work with an External Instrument? Absolute annoying
What if I need to record it with the real time effects, for example, filter? Only audio record?
if you want to print a section so that your external effects are available again to process other things, simply render the external instrument part with the cmd+b (Mac) or ctrl+b (Windows) keyboard shortcut. :) -GBY
Thats exactly what I did and it dont seem to work. I have fishman tripleplay connected with my guitar and i made a midi send to my audio interface wich have a midi interface built in, and from there i connected midi out from my interface tomy external device called V3 and connected that through midi cable. It dont seem to receive any midi commands. I know the problem is for sure at my end some more setup is needed. I have other way of hooking this up, so I will tinker with it. I want 2 instruments to play at once. Triple play wich is software, and V3 external.
What about a eurorack system ?
Can you explain a little bit what you are doing starting at around 03:55 ?? You have two Pro-2 devices. Why did you pick the lower one? Why assign it to Aux? When you click on Aux a fader appears called Inserts. So is this basically equivalent to creating an instrument track and assigning the external instrument to it?
Hi, yes that's right. As I mention in the video, the Instrument Track is just sending out the MIDI data. But in order to hear & record the synth in Studio One, we also need to capture the audio that it's sending back to us. That's why we're connecting the Aux to the Instrument Track. This way we get both Midi and Audio in the same Track, which is very convenient. Hope that clears things up. -GBY
@@presonus Thanks Gregor. Only question left is... why did you pick the lower Pro-2 on the list? Why not the one at the top? The reason I ask is because I went through a lot of frustration trying to get my external keyboard, Yamaha S08, to play back audio. It appears that when I load the driver for the Yamaha keyboard, it creates two instruments, S08-1 and S08-2. I assumed either one would work, but nope. After great frustration with Studio One I decided to try my Finale notation program to drive the Yamaha. If I picked S08-1 it worked. If I picked S08-2 it did not. And it turned out this was also the case with Studio One, that only S08-1 would play back, not s08-2. So how was I supposed to know which one to pick? There is guidance for the Yamaha driver or anything else. That's why I'm asking why you have two different Pro-2 on your list, and why did you pick the one you did. Could you have picked either one?
Also I find the terminology is a bit confusing. In Track View we have either "Audio" which refers to an actual analog signal, whereas "Instrument" refers to the recording of MIDI events. But when defining an external device, the word "Keyboard" is now used for the MIDI device and "Instrument" is now the analog device. Since "Instrument" has somewhat different meanings depending on context, I have to think harder, it's not as intuitive. Maybe with time it will make more sense, but at first it's confusing.
I have a Boss Dr880 drum machine.
It only works when it is setup as as a keyboard but not when setup as an external instrument.
Any work around so I can send the midi data from the instrument track to the DR880 drum machine to use it's own sounds? as oppsed to a VST like EZ drummer?. Thank you.
Is it possible to send midi clock all the time and also when studio stop ?
Gregor, I'll ask here because Presonus support has no idea. I have a Yamaha P 125. It has connectivity via a USB cable which transfers both MIDI and Audio without having an external audio device. Logic records both with no problem. Studio One records MIDI but no audio. I have tried EVERYTHING, but nothing works. Any ideas what's going on here or am I going to have to convert all my stuff back over to Logic. Cheers!
Thanks for the epilepsy
Some incorrect things there:
1) You would only need local control set to off if you are connecting both MIDI In AND Out to the computer. If you're just connecting MIDI In, then you can still play the device's keyboard without having to route it back to the DAW - the disadvantage is that you won't be able to record automation on the synth's knobs, but some synths don't even send that information, to begin with.
2) At 3:36 this is not true, there are quite a few DAWs that can do this now... Bitwig Studio had it basically from the start (HW Instrument), Ableton has it too (External Instrument). I'm a Studio One user myself, so I'm not trying to start a flame war, but the fact is this functionality is not original to S1. One of the big reasons I've thought about switching is the lack of this, so glad it's finally become available - also thanks for adding external clocks.
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I tried this on my e-drum and it's not working! Is it different to connecting a synthesizer? Than can you explain to me how can i route kick, snare...on different output in studio one?
Great Update Gregor...Ext Device set up good...can you advise how I can get my combination program patch names into studio one ( Korg 05RW/w + Korg M1) ? 🙏 my Atom now controls patches ( not patch names) how do we download and install (if possible) ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Gregor, thanks again for an excellent tutorial. But I’m Thor clear on this video on how to do what I’d like to do.
I’d like to record my external synth as MIDI. I’d like to be able to edit the MIDI, but have it play “as if” it was a virtual instrument, just an external one. So I WANT (essentially) a MIDI track. In this video, you didn’t really demonstrate recording, editing it, etc. I’d have liked to have seen what you end up with on this new hybrid Studio One 5 track when you record. Is it audio? MIDI? Is it both? Thanks.
Hi David, can you clarify what you mean by "when you record on this new hybrid Studio One 5 track"? It will behave exactly the same way as any virtual instrument track does. For example: If you bounce an event of Mai Tai, Studio One will render it as Audio and insert it on a new Audio Track - This is exactly what would happen on the external instrument track as well. Editing wise, it looks and feels identical to working with a virtual instrument track when you set up your external instrument as shown here. Hope this helps! -GBY
@@presonus Hi, first of all... Thanks for the quick reply. I often tell people considering S1 that the best feature of S1 for newbies is... "Gregor" to help learn.
OK, so maybe I'm just completely confused here but here's what I need clarification on.
There are workflows where (I presume, perhaps erroneously) that an external SGU can NOT "behave exactly the same way as any virtual instrument". And that... would be workflows where you EDIT the MIDI and thus require the audio to be RE-RENDERED.
And my assumption is that while S1 "knows how to" re-render a virtual instrument-generated audio track (the same way it does when you export a mix or a stem)., that it does NOT know hot to do that for an external SGU which of course (unlike a VST) must be done in real-time and on demand with actual audio going thru the interface, etc.
So what I'd like to see explained, perhaps in a subsequent video is the workflow where I record an external SGU track this way. Then... I edit the midi in some way that causes the audio track that was record to NO LONGER be an accurate reflection of the MIDI track.
NOW.... what state is the associated audio in? How do I get the audio track re-rendered to reflect the MIDI? etc.
Hope that explains what I'm looking for. And... has to be said... thanks again for ALL that you do, and... for how WELL and DEDICATED you do it.
@@davidblickstein Thanks ever so much for your kind words! To your question: Well, most people would just not render their virtual instruments at all until it is time to render the whole song - only then they would be exported into an actual Audio file. It's the same idea with external instruments in Studio One 5 with Aux Channels. Simply assign program and bank numbers in the track inspector on the left to have your external instrument recall the preset used in your Song, then apply any processing like you would on any virtual instrument, and render it with everything else in realtime at the very end. If you want to commit, you can print any external instrument part before you export a mixdown of course. The workflow here would be the same as for any virtual instrument event that you want to commit to. Simply select the midi notes you want to render, then "bounce selection" with cmd+b (Mac) or ctrl+b (Windows) to bounce to a new Audio track. The Midi event will be muted, so that it doesn't play twice upon playback. You can also render in any used insert / send effects by using the "Mixdown selection" command instead. Hope this helps! -GBY
Let me float the "use case" here for you as to when you would want to render your external SGU track to an audio track. This is the work flow I'm trying to accomplish.
You record a track at home or at a soundcheck when your SGU is connected to your computer. But then... you want to take your session to the hotel room... or the bus. .... or use it on another computer.... to do some MIDI editing). Some working environment where you don't have access to the SGU. Granted, what you can do is very limited by the fact that you can't accurately hear your edits.
In fact, it might make sense to NOT have it as an SGU (have it as a VST) while you are still editing it, but maybe you really prefer to edit hearing audio of the SGU to hear it in context.
Now, you may ask "why not just use VSTs"? Well, it's a reasonable question. I'll tell you why at least *I* dont'. I have a Korg Kronos. We are an opening act for nationals. Most of the time, we're told we have 10 minutes to setup, 5 minutes to sound check and 10 minutes to get our stuff off the stage. (That might be a generous stage manager). So I like the fact that my setup is one very capable keyboard (a Korg Kronos) , a stand and my IEMs.
If I was to use VSTs in the studio, and wanted to replicate that live... OK... I know how you'd respond: "Hey Dave, the S1 V5 "Show" feature" was MADE for you!!!! And I love that and will use it. But... It means that I have to have a laptop in my rig. And well... I LIKE programming my Kronos. :-)
So... that is why I prefer to record and perform with an SGU. But I also need to work when my Kronos is not around. Back home. In the "truck". Starbucks wouldn't let me set it up at my table. Etc. :-)
So I do recognize this may be a very hybrid use case that is not worth supporting. But if not... here's the features I could imagine adding to S1 to support it.
1. Support the notion of knowing a) WHEN and b) WHERE (what sections) a MIDI edit or what not requires the recorded audio to be reprinted (it is "out of date" due to the MIDI edits)
2. Support a workflow for reprinting it that doesn't involve muting all the other tracks, and blah blah blah.
3. Support the notion of a "substitute" VST that is used when the SGU is not available.
If you think this is crazy, too unusual a use case, and not worth it, I will NOT be offended.
I'm just grateful for even the time you've spent reading this crazy idea. :-)
Thanks again.
When monitoring through Studio One I still get maybe 20ms of latency when recording my TR8-S through 828ES. I can compensate for this with a -20 delay on the track but then this throws out my timing when recording. Is there a way of adjusting the latency per hardware device?
Great video, does this same setup work with a turntable? I am trying to connect my Pioneer PLX-1000 to Studio One 5 so I can rip vinyl or sample.
Hei Gregor.
Ich habe ein Problem mit der Verbindung meines Roland FA08 zu Studio One. Ich möchte ihn wie in deinem Video beschrieben konfigurieren um Midi und Audio in einer Spur aufnehmen zu können. Als Audio Ein-und Ausgabegerät dient das integrierte Interface des FA08. Die Verbindung zum Mac läuft über USB. Im FA08 ist die Einstellung für Midi auf Verdor ( Audio +Midi ) eingestellt.
Im DAW Modus ist der Tx Channel auf 16 eingestellt. Die Ausgänge ( Midi ), sollen auf die Kanäle 1-15 zurück an den FA 08 gesendet werden können.
Wie von Dir beschrieben, benötige ich um die Tastatur des FA08 sehen und nutzen zu können das externe Instrument "Keyboard". Lege ich dies als Eingabegerät an, kann ich den selben Eingang nicht mehr für das Instrument verwenden. Da kommt ne Warnmeldung wegen Doppelbelegung.
Ich bin hier echt ratlos, denn in Ableton Live funktioniert das ganze über den DAW Modus sehr gut.
Über Hilfe wäre ich sehr froh
Danke
So can I use sektor digital synthesizer with presonus?
Hello Gregor, I appreciate your expertise on connections. I have EZ Drummer 2 installed on Studio One 4 Pro that works fine. I am trying to use AKAI MPD218 to control EZ Drummer. Studio One gives me "Failed to Open MPD218" error... Please help.
Hello Gregor, I wanted to know how to connect two separate keyboards to studio one. I would like to use one keyboard for Presence and use the other for my Korg N1 sound module. I have them both keyboards connected and my Korg N1 to studio one, but I have to click the track every time I want to hear the separate sound. I work in a cove band and I need each keyboard to sound with out clicking the tracks in order to hear them. Is this possible and if so, can you possibly do a video showing how this can be done. Thank you.
Can you show me how to sequence cc parameter changes to 4 synths at once please? I can play back note data with no issues but sometimes presonus wont play back my filter cutoff to my synths. & i don't understand why I cant see the automation ivd input via midi. Very confusing. The manual assumes I want to automate software. I want to sequence my hardware. It should be easy!!
How does this work with sustain pedals or similar connected to the instrument. They are not recorded.
Hi Gregor, I have sync my mpc to studio one 6 and I’m using it as a master controller but can i use the mpc to trigger start recording in studio one 6
When exporting Mixdown or Bounce of my external synth to track my audio is 1822-1442 samples off. When I bounce with aux turned off its 1358 samples off at 512 audio buffer. When i dont disable the aux track, i get 5393 samples late. With the aux track enabled, record offset has no effect on the bounce or mixdown. Just trying to figure out whats the best way to get the audio recorded as sample accurate as possible. I feel like im chasing my tail here.
I'm very happy with the way S1 supports external synths now, but will the bank/patch selector ever be expanded to support patch names? For me names are so much more useful than numbers.
Hi Raymond, you can use the track notes feature for that (nested in the track options [wrench icon at the top of the track list]). -GBY
@@presonus That is a good solution once you've found the sound, but not really a comparison for selecting a familiar patchname in a list (like e.g. Sonar had). The latter is much easier (for me) than trying to remember bank/patch numbers. Could this be done with a macro maybe?
midi input is not working with teh instrument here, i see notes incoming in teh monitor but they are not recorded and teh itput doent show up in the selector
if i create a separe keyboard with teh input it works ?! bug ?
IL n'ya a til pas un site presonus francais?
Good job!!!
So, here's something slightly more complex. I have an 8 channel midi patchbay that shows up on other daw preferences (Ableton, Maschine, MPC Studio) but can't work out how to configure it to work with S1 5. Please help, my analogue hardware is screaming out to get involved!
Hi Stevie, assign all of your used instruments to the same MIDI out, but assign each one to their own individual Midi Channel number. I have a very similar setup. Hope this helps! -GBY
On the window that is show for the ext instrument, is there a method of importing the banks and individual sounds for the synth
No... This is feature that Presonus keeps ignoring for sma decade now. Not sure why
How/where am i going to connect the aux cable if i use the cheap midi to USB converters? Can someone please help me?
Hey Gregor, Great video but I have a question? Is there anyway to map a knob on my midi controller like the Atom to change the Bank/program field in Studio one to change banks and programs from an external synthesizer. I can do it with my mouse but would love to map it to a knob on my Atom. Thanks Vthatguy