So something like vigoro is made by Scott's it's the exact same product just in a different bag with a different price point all fertilizers are the same don't matter what the price is the only difference is if they have an added ingredient which normally makes the cost higher like maybe if it has iron in it or maybe like a methotriazone also known as tenacity. Which may be used for Pacific applications such as seeding. You normally will get a better result with a more expensive one but if you're just feeding your lawn do you really have to spend all that money to get pretty close to the same results. The cheapest place you'll find fertilizer is going to be Menards or Walmart and the best time of year to buy it is in August or later when it all goes on sale and you buy it for next year.
House brand all day for me. Every year around November and December, lowes will clearance out some of their fertilizers. I just grabbed some 12000sqf bags of sta green 22-0-4 for $6 each. Even some scotts and major brands will be over 75% off. Always keep an eye out for those yellow price tags.
Great video--thanks! I typically buy based on particle size, as I find a smaller particle size gives me more even distribution and better overall coverage.
Great job Brandon on the research and explaining. I equate this to electronics where the name brands have always been more expensive yet the lower known brands or less marketed brands are actually great products when you look at their specs and performance
@@TurfCulture Addha is very popular here but Gro-Power out of Chino California packs a micro balance granular that is all oxides and there are no bad reviews of their product. They are the Rose Bowl fertilizer supplier.
Regarding the Vigoro, I believe you have it backwards, 21% is fast release and 7% is slow release. That is what it says right on the bag. I believe you explained it backwards…….
I have bought the triple 10's and 16's and 15's for years, its all from the same mines and plants as Scotts. Then get a sack of potassium sulfate and add that in for veggie fertilization as you see fit. No better way outside of buying it in a dump truck load. 8-10-40 would be my target for tomatoes and such. And some manure topping. When I go down that fertilizer aisle in home depot, I just about get overloaded from all the crazy mixtures and claims.
Cheaper fertilizers might have stuff that acidifies soil or has higher salt content as its cheaper than the purer fertilizers like ammonium nitrate is better than ammoniun sulfate, and muriate of potash has a lot of salt and chlorine and can burn plants, potassium sulfate does not.
Thank you for all this info especially this season! Quick question tho, I just bought YM double dark. My soil test indicated that I was very low on iron so I thought this product was a good choice. I’ve read that iron oxide is not available for plant uptake above a pH of 6. My soil test said my pH was 7.2. Did I just waste my money on the double dark fert? It says it’s iron oxide
Thanks for watching! I wouldn’t be overly concerned about low iron on your soil test, you can easily increase the ppm of Fe over time by incorporating chelated iron into your program or by using a foliar product (spray). Unfortunately you are correct, iron oxide is not plant available even with a pH below 6 it takes a very long time to do so. Just my two cents, the double dark label on the YM fertilizer is a tad gimmicky.
@@andyrussell8510 since you already bought a bag of fertilizer I wouldn’t suggest going out and buying another $50 bag of Scotts. I would suggest picking up a 3lb bag if FeAture i-want-feature.square.site/ chelated iron 👍🏻
Great research. Can you confirm that I can spread agricultural fertilisers that farmers use on my lawn and that these fertilisers are the exact same as the big brand big store and highly marketed products like Scott’s..Nitrogen is nitrogen is it not, the only difference is the % of the nitrogen in the bag and the form it is present, ie soluble or slow release.. Sorry about the long..question…you are providing a very important service.
The ingredients are all the same. If you go to and agricultural co-op they will sell you the exact same product that is sold to growers. They will usually have these products already packaged in smaller quantities for homeowners.
I watch ferts both granular/ Liquids and soil amendments all year round. I have landed outstanding deep discounts on brand names as well as generic stuff. It all works good, it's the time you put into the lawn that makes the biggest difference IMO. Is it spring yet? 🤔
Imo fertilizers are sooooo over rated, i probably apply 1 pound per year, yes per year to my bermuda, sand and a reel mower is what you need, other than the insectices and fungucides i only apply pgr and organic fert 2 times per year, i mulch the clippings so thwy do the work.
yep, ingredients are mostly all the same.. Another point worth considering to help differentiate these products is the particle size. Scotts and other in-house brands tend to have lower SGN than the ultra cheap stuff and I personally find a few bucks of value in having the product spread like a dream. Looking forward to a season of content from you :)
40 pounds of 10-10-10 at Walmart for $14. Delivered! About 1/4 of ANYONE and anything else with that rating. triple 16 a few bucks more. Scotts is all bullshit and hype. Marketing stupidity.
Walmart bags says plant fert, but doesn't mention lawn. Also application is 15 lb/1000sqft so takes 5 times the material as a 3 lb/1000sqft bag. Not so cheap then.
Just get Milo aka Milorganite. Its safer and cheaper. Doesn't even need to be watered in and it is idiot-proof cause it will never burn your lawn and its eco friendly. Thank me later!
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This video is the REAL DEAL....💯💯💯💯💯💯💢💢💯
Thanks!
Local "grain/feed elevators" often carry their own brand or no name at great prices.
Great explanation on this as well B-Money. I like your style. Straight to the meat and potatoes. No fluff. Keep it going!
By far the best informational video of 2022.
Thanks, for the down to earth explanations.
Nice video Brandon. With rising prices everywhere it’s important to know what you’re getting for the cost.
Great video Brandon. Like I always say, Shop Local!
7:04 Not 2% but 0.2% Pot Chl and Iron Sucrate. BIG difference!
So something like vigoro is made by Scott's it's the exact same product just in a different bag with a different price point all fertilizers are the same don't matter what the price is the only difference is if they have an added ingredient which normally makes the cost higher like maybe if it has iron in it or maybe like a methotriazone also known as tenacity. Which may be used for Pacific applications such as seeding. You normally will get a better result with a more expensive one but if you're just feeding your lawn do you really have to spend all that money to get pretty close to the same results. The cheapest place you'll find fertilizer is going to be Menards or Walmart and the best time of year to buy it is in August or later when it all goes on sale and you buy it for next year.
House brand all day for me. Every year around November and December, lowes will clearance out some of their fertilizers. I just grabbed some 12000sqf bags of sta green 22-0-4 for $6 each. Even some scotts and major brands will be over 75% off. Always keep an eye out for those yellow price tags.
Good information Brandon. Thanks for the research on fertilizer analysis. High prices smarter purchases.
Exactly, not hard to find good products if you take some time to look.
Great video--thanks! I typically buy based on particle size, as I find a smaller particle size gives me more even distribution and better overall coverage.
Absolutely particle size is important, can’t believe I failed to mention this. Scott’s products are very close to greens grade.
Great job Brandon on the research and explaining. I equate this to electronics where the name brands have always been more expensive yet the lower known brands or less marketed brands are actually great products when you look at their specs and performance
You can apply this type of scenario to many industries.
Absolutely agree Brandon success is going to be there either way as long as you have solid cultural practices. Thanks for the great content 👍
Say it with me, cultural practices!
Iron Sucrate is the same as oxide, just has some sugar mixed in. Still mostly non-soluble as shown on the label (.05%)
It is for high ph soil.
Iron oxide is not and never will be plant available.
@@TurfCulture Addha is very popular here but Gro-Power out of Chino California packs a micro balance granular that is all oxides and there are no bad reviews of their product.
They are the Rose Bowl fertilizer supplier.
Regarding the Vigoro, I believe you have it backwards, 21% is fast release and 7% is slow release. That is what it says right on the bag. I believe you explained it backwards…….
Good catch. Looks like I got my wires crossed!
@@TurfCulture Thanks. Great video!
I have bought the triple 10's and 16's and 15's for years, its all from the same mines and plants as Scotts. Then get a sack of potassium sulfate and add that in for veggie fertilization as you see fit. No better way outside of buying it in a dump truck load. 8-10-40 would be my target for tomatoes and such. And some manure topping. When I go down that fertilizer aisle in home depot, I just about get overloaded from all the crazy mixtures and claims.
Agreed it’s pretty much all the same with the exception of stabilizing urea and MESA.
Very good info. Thanks
This was very enlightening thanks.
Thanks for watching, Grace. Hope all is well!
I guess they are doing their marketing job because I would buy name brand over store brand thanks for going over this
Don’t let the marketing machine get one over on you!
Cheaper fertilizers might have stuff that acidifies soil or has higher salt content as its cheaper than the purer fertilizers like ammonium nitrate is better than ammoniun sulfate, and muriate of potash has a lot of salt and chlorine and can burn plants, potassium sulfate does not.
Thank you for all this info especially this season! Quick question tho, I just bought YM double dark. My soil test indicated that I was very low on iron so I thought this product was a good choice. I’ve read that iron oxide is not available for plant uptake above a pH of 6. My soil test said my pH was 7.2. Did I just waste my money on the double dark fert? It says it’s iron oxide
Thanks for watching! I wouldn’t be overly concerned about low iron on your soil test, you can easily increase the ppm of Fe over time by incorporating chelated iron into your program or by using a foliar product (spray). Unfortunately you are correct, iron oxide is not plant available even with a pH below 6 it takes a very long time to do so. Just my two cents, the double dark label on the YM fertilizer is a tad gimmicky.
@@TurfCulture thank you for your info. Would the Scott’s green max be worth my money since it is the iron sucrate?
@@andyrussell8510 since you already bought a bag of fertilizer I wouldn’t suggest going out and buying another $50 bag of Scotts. I would suggest picking up a 3lb bag if FeAture i-want-feature.square.site/ chelated iron 👍🏻
Great research. Can you confirm that I can spread agricultural fertilisers that farmers use on my lawn and that these fertilisers are the exact same as the big brand big store and highly marketed products like Scott’s..Nitrogen is nitrogen is it not, the only difference is the % of the nitrogen in the bag and the form it is present, ie soluble or slow release.. Sorry about the long..question…you are providing a very important service.
The ingredients are all the same. If you go to and agricultural co-op they will sell you the exact same product that is sold to growers. They will usually have these products already packaged in smaller quantities for homeowners.
@@TurfCulture many times thanks..
Why all the dots, just use normal punctuation.
I watch ferts both granular/ Liquids and soil amendments all year round. I have landed outstanding deep discounts on brand names as well as generic stuff. It all works good, it's the time you put into the lawn that makes the biggest difference IMO. Is it spring yet? 🤔
Nothing better than the annual Walmart fertilizer purge at the end of the season!
Imo fertilizers are sooooo over rated, i probably apply 1 pound per year, yes per year to my bermuda, sand and a reel mower is what you need, other than the insectices and fungucides i only apply pgr and organic fert 2 times per year, i mulch the clippings so thwy do the work.
12-12-12 and my yard looks great
yep, ingredients are mostly all the same.. Another point worth considering to help differentiate these products is the particle size. Scotts and other in-house brands tend to have lower SGN than the ultra cheap stuff and I personally find a few bucks of value in having the product spread like a dream. Looking forward to a season of content from you :)
Can’t believe I forgot to mention particle size!
Man,you are highly educated.
Some may disagree lol
A proper video I needed......
Thanks for watching!
40 pounds of 10-10-10 at Walmart for $14. Delivered! About 1/4 of ANYONE and anything else with that rating. triple 16 a few bucks more. Scotts is all bullshit and hype. Marketing stupidity.
Walmart bags says plant fert, but doesn't mention lawn. Also application is 15 lb/1000sqft so takes 5 times the material as a 3 lb/1000sqft bag. Not so cheap then.
Just get Milo aka Milorganite. Its safer and cheaper. Doesn't even need to be watered in and it is idiot-proof cause it will never burn your lawn and its eco friendly. Thank me later!
Nah
@@TurfCulture You suck!😆
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Such a stupid comment. How? He wasn't biased at all. Just facts.