Thank you for closely approximating and representing Father God's heart of love and grace through this study. There are far too many "teachers" laying the burden of the Law on people that neither they will nor cannot, nor anyone could carry. I greatly appreciate you! “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to." -Matthew 22:13
Yes he is exaggerating. I attend a weekly messanic gathering. Not everyone there agrees with everyone else but there is no bickering. The only divisive and unpleasant people I come across are people who don't WANT to obey Ha'Shem and their defensiveness lash out due to their internal guilty conscience, especially online.
06.02.2023 Brother Solberg, not to argue with you, for I greatly respect you & you've helped me. I was involved in the HRM for about 1 & 1/2 years. Just out of curiosity, do you celebrate Christmas? Which day do you observe the Sabbath? Thank you so much for your CALMNESS in explaining the importance of studying the Word. May our Father bless you abundantly.
Based on what he said around the 13 minute mark, Christians are free to esteem or not esteem a day as their conscience dictates. This would apply to Christmas. Sabbath is a bit more tricky, in my opinion. I, a pastor in the PCA, would argue for the Christian Sabbath (i.e. the Lord’s Day) on Sunday over against the Jewish Sabbath on Saturday. A few brief points: the Apostolic Church initially worshipped on Saturday at the Synagogue until those were closed to them in the 60s AD. At the same time, as the Gentiles converts swelled the church, they were less and less accepted by the Jews. By the writing of Revelation (either mid 60s or 90s), John is worshipping on the Lord’s Day. For Christians, the day of worship has changed. Second, the 10 Commandments are a summary of the Moral Law and are thus universally required. The 4th Commandment cannot simply be ignored. The best explanation I have is for the “Sabbath Principle” existing throughout Scripture, it the shape and practice of the principle being different. Example: Mana instructions in Exodus 16 before the Law in Ex. 20. The motivation for keeping Sabbath is entirely different in Ex. 20 and Deuteronomy 5. The Sabbath can be a day but also a year. For God, the Sabbath day never ended in Genesis 2. There awaits a Sabbath rest for the saints which earthy Sabbaths are a foretaste. Much more could be said. Thank you
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Sylvia, I was raised SDA as well, found the truth and got out completely about 4 or 5 years ago. They are so similar to Hebrew Roots without the feasts etc. I truly believe God rescued me from a false religion, and yes, sites like Robs are heaven sent - truly - for those of us willing to see the truth and follow Jesus, not religion!
@@marybrosseuk2144 Hi! Oh gosh, I didn't realize "Hebrew Roots" is a religion. I just recently subscribed and haven't really combed through all the videos. Which video explains the religion? And what are it's doctrines??? thanks.
@Sylvia I don't know a ton about them but I do know they believe we still must obey the law, including feasts and days etc. I think R. L. Solberg does explain a lot about them, I would look through all his TH-cam presentations as he does explain how they believe in his presentations. I was raised SDA, which is quite similar to the HR minus the feasts, etc, so I find his presentations very helpful.
Since covenants are agreements to keep the law , what does the LAW of the FLESH say and why we should not enter into covenant with it. “ do not heal someone on the Sabbath “… “ if you are hungry on the Sabbath while walking by a grain field don’t pick and rub it in your hands to remove the chaff because that is work”….” don’t eat your food with dirty hands “ “ do not eat with the gentiles since they are unclean “ instead enter into the covenant with the SPIRITUAL LAW which came from the Heavenly Jerusalem. Got Torah Got Truth
After leaving HR after 7 years I can testify that the fruit of that doctrine is fear, shame, condemnation, pride, judging, downright mocking, scoffing and criticizing "regular Christians", whom btw, some HR people dont even consider to be saved. They go through the Torah portions week after week with a fine tooth comb(which is inherently fine) but it becomes not ok when it supercedes the other 61 books, especially the NT we should be studying with a fine toothed comb as well. I tried to reconcile the NT with the Mosaic Law for 7 years and it requires changing of definitions and twisting of scriptures to make it fit, only twisting the NT btw. And it simply doesn't fit. If I may reference Cinderellas sisters trying to squeeze their feet into her slipper. God bless you!
Galatians 5:5-6 (ESV): 5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.
Husbands and wives each have their own love language. To be an effective loving spouse in a growing loving marriage we need to understand our spouses love language and serve our spouse accordingly. How much more HaShem who also has a love language? His is called obedience!! From what/where do we learn how to become obedient to live our life obediently demonstrating our obedience and speaking His love language? Torah!
Amen, Mitch! And we obey Him out of love for Him. His Word teaches us what HaShem loves and values and the indwelling of his Holy Spirit guides us as well. Shalom, Rob
Yes I've learned the Torah which teaches me how to live. I have noticed all the Torah teachers I've heard, not one teaches from the new testament. Red flag but I do love learning old testament.
I don't know what it matters to you But I am a Jew through and through A Bar Mitzvah, Levite and Rabbi too, Yes it's true But more importantly on July 31, 1991 plus 2 I became born anew And have always taught from Brit Chadasha says me to you
The scriptures state to fear God and keep His commandments while the Judaizers say fear us ( men of the flesh ) and keep our commandments such as “ don’t eat with the gentiles “ This is why Peter broke fellowship with the gentiles because he feared the Judaizers …Paul was able to rebuke Peter because Paul didn’t fear the Judaizers but feared God instead. So by rejecting the commandments of the flesh Paul was able to correctly instruct Peter on the right way to act using the Spiritual Law…. Got Torah Got Truth
This is a distortion. Paul was very specfically speaking about the Mosaic law in Gal. He even quoted some curses from the Mosaic law. Paul was not saying the judaizers were saying do not keep oral law or their man made traditions. All throughout Gal Paul refers to Mosaic law refering to Mount Sinai and the law that came 430 yrs after Abrahamic covenant. I was in this movement so i saw this distortion of Gal trying to make it say Paul was refering to oral law. In context that is not possible. Gal in context destroys the torah movements argument. Therefore the torah movement takes scriptures out of context and plays spiritual gymnastics with books like Gal because they cant deal with it or refute it in context.
Rob, I want to say that I found your presentation very informative, and I agree with most of what you said. I do have some reservations regarding the idea that Christians are permitted to continue observing the Law of Moses. I have watched a number of your videos and see this is a recurring phrase. This seems to contradict everything else you say about the nature and purpose of law. There is no manner of keeping the Law (or any law) other than obedience. While I understand that Romans 14 mentions a temporary exception to allow for the newly converted weak brethren to become strong, I believe it's important to emphasize that this is not the general rule for believers. As Paul makes clear that Christians are not under the law, but are dead to it and freed from its demands. Therefore, we cannot continue to cling to Moses with one hand and Christ with the other. The former must be let go of. I think it's crucial to avoid presenting the temporary exception in Romans 14 as a universal rule of permission for all believers to keep the Law of Moses. Rather, we should recognize that ultimately, the NT church is not subject to the opinions of the weak (14:1), but is called to mature to walk in the freedom and grace of Christ. “..become as me [Paul]..” Gal. 4:12 Thank you for your time and for sharing your insights with us. God Bless, Steve
Thanks, Steve. When I talk about “permitted but not required“ I try to be careful not to say “keep the law” but rather “keep the Mosaic rituals.“ In other words, I don’t think keeping the Mosaic law is appropriate for Christians in terms of legal obedience. But I do believe including rituals such as eating kosher or the Torah feasts in one’s Christian walk is not a problem. Particularly for Jewish believers in Jesus. Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots Thank you Rob. The Mosaic law was a legal code given to the Israelites, and its rituals were an integral part of that code. It is illusory to imagine that one can keep the rituals of the law without keeping the law itself. Attempting to separate the two is an arbitrary and artificial distinction. The rituals were designed to be inseparable from the legal obedience required of the Israelites, and not standalone practices that could be observed in isolation from the rest of the law. They were to be observed with specific rituals, sacrifices, and offerings at the Temple. Since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, it is not possible to observe these practices in the way they were instructed. And as believers in Christ, we are called to walk in the freedom and grace that He has given us, rather than attempting to blend the teachings of Christ with incomplete or outdated practices. The yearly feast days were prophetic of Christ. However, when these feasts were fulfilled in Christ's sacrifice, his resurrection, ascension, and the Day of Pentecost, there was no longer a need to continue the feasts. In fact, continuing to observe them would suggest a lack of belief in their fulfillment. We are now instructed to remember Christ's death through the observance of the Lord's Supper. Unlike the Mosaic feasts, the Lord's Supper is not prophetic but rather a commemoration of what Christ has already accomplished through his death and resurrection. Furthermore, trying to practice Mosaic rituals acknowledges the authority and relevance of the Law, which contradicts the teachings of Paul. As believers in Christ, we are called to walk in freedom and grace, rather than trying marry the teachings of Christ with elements of the Mosaic Law. Galatians 3:28 makes it clear that there is no distinction between Jewish and Gentile believers in Christ, so we should not cling to old legalistic practices. Though it may be tempting for Jewish believers in Jesus to maintain cultural practices, we must be cautious not to do so at the expense of the gospel message. Mixing the old and new covenants leads to confusion, division, and a distorted understanding of the gospel. Steve
If Paul was taken into the desert for three years after his conversion (I believe this) what was he taught? He already knew the Torah inside and out. He was being taught the New Covenant and this is what he taught the Galatians. The Galatians were made up of Celtic druids that had come in and ransacked the area and taken over. They were definitely not Jewish. Would Paul have taken years to teach them the Torah?
Rob, Faith Working Through Love: Paul's Rejection of the Idea of Obedience to any or the Whole Law of Moses (Galatians 5) Paul's argument in Galatians is not limited to reacting to keeping certain aspects of the Law, such as days (4:9-10) and circumcision (5:1ff). His contention is that if any part of the Law is to be kept, then all of it must be kept, and this is what he strongly opposes. According to Paul's reasoning, the keeping of the "whole Law" is what believers are to not be entangled again with. The underlying assumption is that adherence to any part of the Law necessitates complete compliance and can only serve as a means of justification, rather than as a matter of personal choice. The Law's very essence requires obedience under the threat of punishment, leaving no room for voluntary observance. Hence, any effort to uphold the Law is inherently associated with the quest for justification. Although circumcision or a certain diet may be practiced for reasons unrelated to obedience to the Mosaic Law, popular and persisting practices of observing Jewish holy days, the Sabbath, garment regulations and tithing cannot be separated from obedience to the Law. The new covenant provides a superior, comprehensive and complete framework for faith, conduct, and practice, which includes not only the teachings and example of Jesus and the apostles but also the guidance and empowerment of the Holy Spirit. The concepts of "faith working through love" (Galatians 5:6) and "obeying the truth" (Galatians 5:7) are in opposition to the idea of being burdened by "a yoke of bondage" (Galatians 5:1) and attempting to "keep the whole law" (Galatians 5:3). In other words, the Christian life is not about following a set of rules and regulations, but rather it is characterized by an inward faith that expresses itself outwardly through love for God and others, by obedience to the truth revealed in Jesus Christ. The Law of Moses cannot bring salvation or true righteousness, as it is only through faith in Christ that we are justified and made right with God. Paul's gospel is that believers are dead to the practices of the whole Law, and any attempt to revert to the Old system that God has replaced through Christ is misguided and contrary to the exercise of faith working through love. Shalom, Steve
I don't believe so, Clif. Paul was an apostle and a teacher, not he's never called a prophet. And Jesus is the one who taught him (Gal. 1:11-12)! Shalom, RLS
“ You observe days and months and seasons and years “ if you look at the Greek you might notice that Paul is referring to Gentile practices , similar to Christian practices of Christ-mass and Easter and following the Pope’s calendar instead of the God’s calendar. Got Torah Got Truth
This was a great teaching, Rob! You explained it so clear! I just can’t understand why some people seem to prefer Slavery to freedom! I’m so glad Jesus set the Captives free! But I guess some people, unfortunately, don’t know what to do with their new found freedom, and decide to make their own rules, only to end up behind bars again.😒
I have heard that very thing that in order to understand the Gospel that we have to interpret it from the Jewish perspective. So the way you explained the "Christ Event" and the quote was fantastic and very helpful to me.
I don’t think the law of Moses was ever considered weak and elementary ways of the world. And the people of Galacia observed weeks and months and days and years could mean pagan worship of the goddess of Diana since the temple was just a stones throw away from where he was teaching. I think they too had their set-apart seasons.
Excellent concise teaching…sadly, the root of HRM is simply a need for control and ultimately pride. You will know them by their fruits. And more sad, is that a great portion of them, seem to be self proclaimed outcasts to begin with, broken by church harm (weakness), substance abuse, childhood trauma/abuse, etc. They are trying to find a place to belong…The Bride needs to stand up for the broken and outcast! Love God, Love people!
Regardless of the bad apples, they are dead right about believers obeying God's law. It is sad that so-called Christians twist Paul's letters to make him say what he does not say as Peter warned about, falling in the error of lawlessness. I HRM is messed up in terms of accountability, lack of spiritual maturity, even antisemitism, but they are right about the law of Moses. Isaiah 56:1-8 clearly says it. I am a Messianic Jew, I do not like the HRM nonsense but I have to agree with them that God did not come to abolish the law or the prophets as Messiah said in Matthew.
The Israelites in Egypt found favour ( grace ) , lived because of the blood of the lamb, went through the waters ( baptism )….How many entered the promised land? …not to many…Why?….they were disobedient. Got Torah Got Truth
Actually, Harry, the reason hardly anyone made it into the promised land was not because they disobeyed a law, it was because they lacked faith! "And the Lord said to Moses, “How long will this people despise me? And how long will they *not believe in me,* in spite of all the signs that I have done among them? (Num 14:11). And then Yahweh told Israel, "But as for you, your dead bodies shall fall in this wilderness. And your children shall be shepherds in the wilderness forty years and shall suffer *for your faithlessness,* until the last of your dead bodies lies in the wilderness" (Num 14:32-33). Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots even the demons believe, they just don’t obey. Believing in Yehoshua means obedience. Believing something about Him is just head knowledge. Faithlessness is disobedience where as faithfulness is obedience simply because you don’t have faith without being faithful. Abraham was called a man of faith because he was faithful, had he not obeyed God he would not have been referred to as a man of faith. Got Torah Got Truth
@@JeffSmith-it4tm Hello, Just for clarity can you point out when exactly Rob says Lawlessness is rejecting Torah? and What scripture do you call Torah?
The context is about Peter who turned again to sin, a servant of sin, not ambiguous at all. Like Hebrews he speaks of backsliding into a statute of sin, or repents is free from the bondage of sin, and prefers the forgiveness of grace and that statute. Paul is in the same position as Peter, and Paul preaches the gospel of grace for repentance from sin as Gal 6:1-10, grace is not a licence to sin. Unfortunately Christianity has the wrong perception of the Cross, as no.man can pay for anothers sins, we need forgiveness from repentance. The gospel of Christ is the opportunity of salvation by sanctification. They were not replacing the freedom of Christ, for works salvation, but turning to sin and sacrifice as slaves to sin.
Hello, Violet. I do not believe that Christians are obligated to tithe or observe the Mosaic Sabbath as a matter of obedience. We are free to do those things, of course. But what we are called to under the New Covenant is much bigger than that. We are called to generously give of our money, resources, and time to those in need, and to support those preaching and teaching the Word. We are also called to rest in the Lord, to honor Him and set aside time for (and with) Him, though it does not necessarily need to be expressed within the context of a seventh-day rest. Blessings, Rob
That is up to you.but if want to be part of the kingdom of Israel I would go to the holy spirit not a man..see Hebrew 4..read the whole chapter and pray about ..father coming very soon
@@TheBiblicalRoots Thanks for your reply, I also believe the same just that I wanted to hear from you since your teach about the law.I believe Jesus is the end of the law and we Christians have no need to observe the law.God bless you
@@JeffSmith-it4tm Your Cult loves to quote Matthew 7:21-23. Jesus is speaking to Torah Keepers who bragged about their WORKS, Hmmmm How did that work out? It is comments like yours is why I claim your Cult is for the LowIQ'd
Matthew Henry agrees with Rob "The Jewish convert might observe the ceremonies or assert his liberty, the Gentile might disregard them or might attend to them, provided he did not depend upon them. No outward privileges or profession will avail to acceptance with God, without sincere faith in our Lord Jesus. True faith is a working grace; it works by love to God, and to our brethren"
What is the Torah ? Torah members tell me different things, I think it’s basically what they want to observe . Also what does observe mean? to just look at or obligated to do it. Some act as if there is not a New Covenant because then the old wouldn’t be …fun anymore. Also if the Torah is just the 1st 5 books does that mean Jesus’ teachings aren’t Gods word or instructions. I think it’s because he was just quoting Torah so he really wasn’t saying anything NEW!
The Torah aka the Pentateuch is the First 5 books of the bible. What is important to remember is that the Torah was written in the context of the ancient near East. The Torah is basically a Suzerain Treaty. A suzerain Treaty is where a King would take on another nation as a vassal. The Suzerain or Lord would establish what the vassal would now need to do to please their new overlord in the form of stipulations. Then the Suzerain would include what blessings they would receive if they were loyal and what curse would fall on them if they were not. Treaty stipulations do not legislate , they provide instructions in the wisdom of how to be loyal vassals. Suzerain took on vassals to glorify themselves and to make their name great. Vassals were seen as extensions of him and what they did reflected the character of the Suzerain. In this case God/YHWH is the Suzerain and the nation of Israel is the Vassals
@@salpezzino7803 I'm surprised that you never heard of the Suzerain Treaty. It was very common in the Ancient near East. And the people of Israel would have understood it. The concept of the suzerain Treaty is very much foreign in western culture.
@@joshuamelton9148 It wasnt a Suzerain Treaty that surprised me it was you rejecting a Covenant made by God in favor of a man made covenant. Thus, you piping a man-made doctrine.
Since the Mosaic Law came out of the mouth of GOD who came from Heaven it is impossible that the phrase “ weak and worthless elementary principles of the world “ is referring to the Torah. Try connecting the “ weak and worthless “ to the flesh ( man made). Got Torah Got Truth
Hello Rob. I'm gonna track you down and get your attention one way or another....(smile). The question below has been presented to you a couple of different times and maybe you haven't seen it, so I'll present it again here; I presented this question to you under another interview you did with Vocab Malone and I didn't get your reply. I'll restate my question and hopefully you will be able to respond. My question; If the black Hebrew's have been identified as imposters and the British theory just as questionable, how do you come to decide that the persons occupying the land of Israel today are the Semites of 1of the 12 tribes? Is Koestler a fraud? He wrote the book, "The 13th Tribe". Please help me to understand your position. Shalom!
Hello, Emmanuel. Just to set your expectations appropriately, there are not enough hours in the day for me to respond to your every question that is asked of me across all my social media channels. To answer this question, I do not presume that every person in Israel today has descended from one of the tribes of ancient Israel. Shalom, RLS
Rob doesn’t get Paul’s metaphor between Hagar and Sarah because he misses the context of the letter to the Galatians. He creates a straw-man argument against those who teach a balanced walk in the Law of Moshe (i.e., Laws of YaH). Paul addressing two covenants. The Sinai Covenant represents the birth of the nation and its wedding covenant. The context shows Paul is battling oral traditions of proselytising a gentile to becoming a Jew, trying to make them a full member of the covenant of Israel. Thus attaching oral law to this covenant making it a salvation by ethnicity. The Sinai Covenant doesn’t teach salvation by ethnicity. It’s not about wether to keep the laws of Moshe or not after being redeemed. Current Yerushalayim (sect of Pharisees) created a perverted means of coming into the covenant by physically becoming a Jew through their oral laws, thus acting like Avraham did with Hagar. Trying to make the promise come through physical means. Sarah represents the work of Yeshua. The promise comes through a supernatural work of YaHweh. Blessings Tony
Hi, Tony. Where do see the idea of "salvation by ethnicity"? I don't see that in the text or the context of Galatians. Also, I'm not quite following how "attaching oral law to this covenant" would make it "salvation by ethnicity." Even if the Judaizers were "proselytizing a gentile to becoming a Jew," that would not make the Gentiles _ethnic_ Jews but rather Jews in practice. There is no way for a Gentile to "physically become a Jew." Thanks for any clarification you care to offer. Shalom, RLS
Tony I was talking about you to your boy Mitch. You truly are nutZ. How many times a day do you say 'straw-man' about Christian Orthodoxy? Did you even find those 5 men of God who teach the Cross plus the law of Moses from 5 different Centuries? God throws false teachers into the Lake of Fire.
@@TheBiblicalRoots The entire book of Galatians is about the oral traditions built around the command of circumcision. It is what Paul called “works of law” or proselytising gentiles into their full Judaism. This was a system by the Pharisees bringing a gentile into full membership ( Matt 23:15). This was in their eyes a gentile becoming a Jew (i.e., full covenant member). Anything less and you weren’t truly a full member in the covenant. Once you completed their sectarian system, circumcision was the final step. One must go through the book of Galatians and see when the definite article “the” in Greek is use and see when it isn’t. The word “nomos” doesn’t always mean Law of Moshe in Galatians. It can also mean another law. The Greek term “Ioudaismos” in Gal 2:14 is also found in Esther 8:17 LXX. “Throughout every province and throughout every city, wherever the king’s edict and his law went, the Jews had gladness and joy, banquets and holidays. Many peoples of the land 👉🏻became Jews, (ιουδάιζον )👈🏻 because the fear of the Jews had overcome them.” Esther 8:17 Rob, are you not familiar with Josephus in Antiquities 20.17-48 where he recounts the conversion of King Izates of Adiabene and his mother Helena (ca. 44-47 CE). Izates adopted Jewish customs and beliefs when a Jewish merchant called Ananias visited the king's wives and "taught them to worship God after the manner of the Jewish tradition" and "persuaded him [prince Izates], in like manner, to embrace that religion." Concurrently, Queen Helena had "likewise been instructed by another Jew and had been brought over to their laws. Jews were not permitted to keep company or eat with someone who hadn’t fully converted and taken on their proselytising system. “And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an 👉🏻unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; 👈🏻 but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.” Acts 10:28 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 This not Law of Moshe but oral law (i.e., works of laws). This is ethnic pride and in the eyes of those forcing conversion, the gentile only becomes a full member of the covenant by converting. This is the driving force of Galatians. Paul is in no way teaching the circumcision party are teaching one must keep the law of Moshe to be saved. It’s their “works of law (ma’asei Torah) or proselytising system. messianicapologetics.blog/faqs/W_Works_of_the_Law.pdf
@@TonyPino777Yeshuasaves no it is not oral traditions that why Paul is LITERALLY quoting from the Law curses is anyone the doesn’t abide BY ALL THINGS >>WRITTEN
Rob, stop making strawman arguments and assumptions about people you don't know. The "don't believe me just look at my comment section" argument you make often about "torahists" (I hate that word) being divisive and vile is false. I see comment after comment of people explaining their rebuttle with eloquence, some in brevity and some with great detail. But then I see alot of "christian anti-torahists" throw one liners along with being very unpleasant and smug, yes that includes you. The only divisiveness I have ever experienced is from the people who don't WANT to obey Ha'Shem and will do anything an everything to prove it. BTW. I've met Warren Wiersbe, stayed at his house and eaten at his table many times. He explained the acorn analogy to me when I was young over breakfast. It didn't make sense then and still doesn't. He was a very jolly old man and his wife was the sweetest lady. But that doesn't mean I agree with him, not at all.
My brother do you mean tha Paul equated Worthless elementary principles of the world to the law of God? Let us be serious, that is the same Paul who asked in Romans 3:31 do we then nullify the law by this faith? Certainly not, we upholded the law.... that same feast that you call people legalistic for, we will continue celebrating them during the milenial reign of Jesus: from one new moon to another and from one sabbath to another isaiah 66:23
Have you read the scriptures before Romans 3:31? Or do you just vomit what your false teachers taught you? Romans 3:27 Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith.
@@jobjoseph1815 We know what it is not. it isnt the Law of Moses. Galatians 3:11Now it is clear that no one is justified before God by the law, because, “The righteous will live by faith.” 12The law, however, is not based on faith; on the contrary, “The man who does these things will live by them.” now check out the 'law of Christ'
@@jobjoseph1815 Peter wasn't prophesizing. It was obviously Jews and Jewish believers who were having a hard time understanding Paul. We see this throughout Acts. Acts 14: 19 But Jews came from Antioch and Iconium, and having persuaded the crowds, they stoned Paul and dragged him out of the city, supposing that he was dead.
Nice effort in putting the video together with time stamps etc, but sadly completely false teachings - please pray and re-evaluate your understanding of scripture. The Law of God is for all to keep.
He didn't say the Law of God wasn't for all, but this book of Galatians is about the Gospel is power unto Salvation and the Law can't do that despite The law being Good it has no power unto Salvation. The law only makes u a good doer or good person at following the law which is GOOD, but it doesn't deal with we are guilty CRIMINALS BEFORE GOD. If u read the book of galatians at what it says. U should come to that conclusions
@@TheBiblicalRoots I think you haven't understood my speech clearly, thats my fault. Ones who proclaim faith in jesus will follow the law of God, and yes they will apply what only applies to them, e.g I'm not a Leviticus priest, there isn't a temple and I'm not a woman. So keeping God's commandants that are applicable to day e.g Sabbaths feasts clean eating etc all for all who are grafted into Israel, which is I'm sure you are aware of is what happens when we are born again.
Last Dance... Have you ever read this? **He has revealed his word to Jacob, his laws and decrees to Israel. He has done this for NO OTHER nation; they DO NOT know his laws Psalm 147 Where is this law that God gave all humanity in the bible?
The two covenants , one of the FLESH which you listed as OLD came out of God’s mouth who came from Heaven. Can you please explain how you’ve come to the conclusion that what originated from God you’ve managed to put in the flesh category. It makes no sense that God frees the slaves in Egypt to put them back into slavery using the Torah. Got Torah Got Truth
HI Harry. It wasn't me that put the law in the slavery and flesh category. It sounds like your problem is with the apostle Paul. ;-) And, as I've mentioned a few times in this series, Paul is talking about one aspect of the law in this book. It is not his entire view of it. He is highlighting the restrictive aspect of the law as it compares to the freedom of Jesus and the Gospel. RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots I have absolutely no problem with Paul. He never refers to the two covenants as old or new , he refers to them as of the flesh or not of the flesh. In your video you referred the two covenants as old or new and and recognized that of the flesh was in reference to Abraham and Sara adding to God’s word. So whoever was adding to God’s word had to be man and since God is not a man and the Torah came from Heaven where Jerusalem is and the Torah is perfect, so attributing to flesh what came from God is not something Paul would do. Got Torah Got Truth
Paul compares the slavery in Egypt to slavery to sin which is the breaking of the Torah and not the keeping of the the Torah. In plain English NOT keeping the Torah is what enslaves people to sin because sin is the transgression of the Torah. Got Torah Got Truth
According this man, Paul preached a different gospel than Jesus Himself.. He is wrong. Im sorry. They both preached the same thing. What Paul is talking about is SALVATION.. Saved by Faith in Jesus, period. But what this man is teaching you all is that after you are saved, you should not be obedient to God. Its ridiculous. Salvation first, then the process of Sanctification.. We are to OBEY the commandments of God. There are several LAWS in Galatians. If you dont understand first century Judaisms you cannot understand Galatians.
Actually, Mr. Rogers. I believe and teach that we very much *are* called to obey God. Remember that not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands were only given to certain people (ex. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses), or for certain times (ex. building an ark, gathering manna) and we're each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. And the ceremonial Mosaic commands do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required, nor is a priesthood, or a temple.) “But now we are released from the law, having died with Christ to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6). Shalom, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots I agree with what you wrote here.. Many of the commands we CANNOT keep without the temple, priesthood etc. But what about the ones we can keep? Example- Shabbat? Or avoiding the unclean foods God has listed? There is no evidence I have found of the followers of Christ eating unclean foods after his death and resurrection. Not until much later. Jesus didnt do it, so why would we? Why not simply walk as HE walked (as much as possible).. After all He is our teacher correct?
Romans 14 is not about the Torah. The context is about peoples OPINIONS. It says so in the 1st verse. Scripture is much easier to understand if taken in context. Got Torah Got Truth
Exactly! In the church in Rome it was some people's opinion that certain days should be kept, or a certain diet should be kept. (He called this group the weak in faith.) It was other people's opinion that they were free to celebrate any day or eat any food as long as they did so in honor of the Lord. And Paul tells them not to quarrel over opinions. #GotTorahGotTruth RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots this was about eating and not eating certain days ( fasting ) or eating vegetables only ( vegetarian ) this was not an okay by Paul to sin by transgressing the Torah.. To honour Yehoshua would be obedient to His word. Disobedience would be a sure way to dishonour Him. Got Torah Got Truth
You are misunderstanding the words of Paul. He is not saying to Christians they do not have obey God's law if they are saved, but rather, don't follow Jewish law (man-made commandments which are worthless elementary principles of the world and not from God) in order to be saved as if by doing all those man-made requirements they could earn their salvation. That is the issue here. Paul makes sure to clarify this in his letter to the Romans where he asks the question "Do we nullify, make void, of no effect, forsake the Law of God by this faith in Jesus? God forbid! He answers to that question, and he adds, "on the contrary, we establish the Law". So the Law is how anyone that believes in God must live as Isaiah 56:1-8 reflects, including Gentiles coming to the faith. Therefore my friend, you are misreading the text, you are introducing ideas alien to Paul's mind and by doing so contradicting his own words. Peter warned us about people misinterpreting Paul's letter and falling in the error of lawlessness by doing so. The Law is still valid and good and will last until the end of the 1,000 years reign of Messiah from Jerusalem. The issue is like this, you have people that think they need to convert to rabbinic Judaism which is man-made (not God's Law given to Moses) in order to be saved, like getting circumcised not as a token of the faith (God's Law) but rather as symbol of conversion to Judaism as a means of salvation (rabbinic Judaism), and then you have those who reject God's Law because they think Jesus got rid of that even though Jesus himself in Matthew said not to even think such a thing (go figure). So both extremes are wrong. The correct interpretation is Paul's own explanation, do not try to earn your salvation by converting to a man-made religion (Judaism or any other) and do not think you can live your life in disobedience to God's Law if you have come to faith. So the believer MUST believe in Jesus to be saved then MUST obey God's Law as lifestyle, set apart for God if truly in covenant with him. Isaiah 56:1-8 is as clear as it can get for it is directed to Gentiles coming to faith until the end of times and even during the milenial reign of Messiah from Jerusalem, once the third temple is rebuilt.
As someone born under the law (Adventism, 4th Gen) this feels like freedom.
Praise God you got out! 🙏
Blessings Friend 🕊️
Same. Only I’m 3rd gen. My wife as well. Glad to be out!
This was great! Thank you for the drawings, they are so helpful to me as a visual learner.
This series is so helpful!
Rob.. very excellent presentation. 🙏
Thank you for closely approximating and representing Father God's heart of love and grace through this study. There are far too many "teachers" laying the burden of the Law on people that neither they will nor cannot, nor anyone could carry. I greatly appreciate you!
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to."
-Matthew 22:13
Would you disagree or agree that the Kingdom has a Constitution?
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Another excellent insite Rob
This happened to me, but I've come back to Grace through Faith.
I love your teachings
He is not exaggerating. I was in the movement. I deal with these folk all the time. He is right on target.
Yes he is exaggerating. I attend a weekly messanic gathering. Not everyone there agrees with everyone else but there is no bickering. The only divisive and unpleasant people I come across are people who don't WANT to obey Ha'Shem and their defensiveness lash out due to their internal guilty conscience, especially online.
Excellent unpacking work Rob! 👏👏👏
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Thank you for your time and commitment!
Brother Solberg, I am thoroughly enjoying these studies in Galatians. Will you ever have a similar series on Romans? Like Romans chapter 9 through 11?
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Brother Solberg, not to argue with you, for I greatly respect you & you've helped me. I was involved in the HRM for about 1 & 1/2 years. Just out of curiosity, do you celebrate Christmas? Which day do you observe the Sabbath? Thank you so much for your CALMNESS in explaining the importance of studying the Word. May our Father bless you abundantly.
Based on what he said around the 13 minute mark, Christians are free to esteem or not esteem a day as their conscience dictates.
This would apply to Christmas.
Sabbath is a bit more tricky, in my opinion. I, a pastor in the PCA, would argue for the Christian Sabbath (i.e. the Lord’s Day) on Sunday over against the Jewish Sabbath on Saturday.
A few brief points: the Apostolic Church initially worshipped on Saturday at the Synagogue until those were closed to them in the 60s AD. At the same time, as the Gentiles converts swelled the church, they were less and less accepted by the Jews. By the writing of Revelation (either mid 60s or 90s), John is worshipping on the Lord’s Day. For Christians, the day of worship has changed.
Second, the 10 Commandments are a summary of the Moral Law and are thus universally required. The 4th Commandment cannot simply be ignored. The best explanation I have is for the “Sabbath Principle” existing throughout Scripture, it the shape and practice of the principle being different.
Example: Mana instructions in Exodus 16 before the Law in Ex. 20.
The motivation for keeping Sabbath is entirely different in Ex. 20 and Deuteronomy 5.
The Sabbath can be a day but also a year.
For God, the Sabbath day never ended in Genesis 2.
There awaits a Sabbath rest for the saints which earthy Sabbaths are a foretaste.
Much more could be said. Thank you
*Hello Brother Solberg. I just discovered your channel today (Apr 24, 2023). Recently had come across Rabbi Singer's channel and I was very upset how he denied Christ and how he argued with others about how the NT is false, etc... HOW REFRESHING TO HAVE DISCOVERED YOUR WONDERFUL, RATIONAL, FAIR, CHANNEL!!!! GOD Bless you for explaining things and helping us navigate opinions and perspectives. But mostly, how you point to the bible and Christ! **#BEST** CHANNEL I'VE SUBSCRIBED TO IN PAST FEW YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!* p.s. I'm a Seventh-Day Adventist 😇👍
Welcome, Sylvia! I am so glad you found us.
Blessings, Rob
Sylvia, I was raised SDA as well, found the truth and got out completely about 4 or 5 years ago. They are so similar to Hebrew Roots without the feasts etc. I truly believe God rescued me from a false religion, and yes, sites like Robs are heaven sent - truly - for those of us willing to see the truth and follow Jesus, not religion!
@@marybrosseuk2144 Hi! Oh gosh, I didn't realize "Hebrew Roots" is a religion. I just recently subscribed and haven't really combed through all the videos. Which video explains the religion? And what are it's doctrines??? thanks.
Hebrew Roots have no formal doctrines that I know of. No religious guidelines.
@Sylvia I don't know a ton about them but I do know they believe we still must obey the law, including feasts and days etc. I think R. L. Solberg does explain a lot about them, I would look through all his TH-cam presentations as he does explain how they believe in his presentations. I was raised SDA, which is quite similar to the HR minus the feasts, etc, so I find his presentations very helpful.
Hi enjoying the Galations study brother...when do we expect part 6 & 7....😊
Thanks, MI! Part 6 comes out this Sunday, the 21st.
RLS
Since covenants are agreements to keep the law , what does the LAW of the FLESH say and why we should not enter into covenant with it. “ do not heal someone on the Sabbath “…
“ if you are hungry on the Sabbath while walking by a grain field don’t pick and rub it in your hands to remove the chaff because that is work”….” don’t eat your food with dirty hands “
“ do not eat with the gentiles since they are unclean “ instead enter into the covenant with the SPIRITUAL LAW which came from the Heavenly Jerusalem. Got Torah Got Truth
After leaving HR after 7 years I can testify that the fruit of that doctrine is fear, shame, condemnation, pride, judging, downright mocking, scoffing and criticizing "regular Christians", whom btw, some HR people dont even consider to be saved.
They go through the Torah portions week after week with a fine tooth comb(which is inherently fine) but it becomes not ok when it supercedes the other 61 books, especially the NT we should be studying with a fine toothed comb as well.
I tried to reconcile the NT with the Mosaic Law for 7 years and it requires changing of definitions and twisting of scriptures to make it fit, only twisting the NT btw. And it simply doesn't fit. If I may reference Cinderellas sisters trying to squeeze their feet into her slipper.
God bless you!
Hallelujah! 🎉
Very appropriate video! We believe in eliminating the traditions of man and encouraging people to read the bible for themselves. -UHC
Galatians 5:5-6 (ESV): 5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.
Very informative as always. I found it interesting the illustration that Paul used with Hagar and Sarah
Husbands and wives each have their own love language. To be an effective loving spouse in a growing loving marriage we need to understand our spouses love language and serve our spouse accordingly.
How much more HaShem who also has a love language?
His is called obedience!!
From what/where do we learn how to become obedient to live our life obediently demonstrating our obedience and speaking His love language?
Torah!
Amen, Mitch! And we obey Him out of love for Him. His Word teaches us what HaShem loves and values and the indwelling of his Holy Spirit guides us as well.
Shalom, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots What does it say about our love and the commands which are the connectors to YHVH?
Yes I've learned the Torah which teaches me how to live. I have noticed all the Torah teachers I've heard, not one teaches from the new testament. Red flag but I do love learning old testament.
I don't know what it matters to you
But I am a Jew through and through
A Bar Mitzvah, Levite and Rabbi too,
Yes it's true
But more importantly on
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And have always taught from Brit Chadasha says me to you
Excellent explanation! Love the breakdown of the allegory!
The scriptures state to fear God and keep His commandments while the Judaizers say fear us ( men of the flesh ) and keep our commandments such as “ don’t eat with the gentiles “
This is why Peter broke fellowship with the gentiles because he feared the Judaizers …Paul
was able to rebuke Peter because Paul didn’t fear the Judaizers but feared God instead. So by rejecting the commandments of the flesh Paul was able to correctly instruct Peter on the right way to act using the Spiritual Law…. Got Torah Got Truth
This is a distortion. Paul was very specfically speaking about the Mosaic law in Gal. He even quoted some curses from the Mosaic law. Paul was not saying the judaizers were saying do not keep oral law or their man made traditions. All throughout Gal Paul refers to Mosaic law refering to Mount Sinai and the law that came 430 yrs after Abrahamic covenant. I was in this movement so i saw this distortion of Gal trying to make it say Paul was refering to oral law. In context that is not possible. Gal in context destroys the torah movements argument. Therefore the torah movement takes scriptures out of context and plays spiritual gymnastics with books like Gal because they cant deal with it or refute it in context.
Rob, I want to say that I found your presentation very informative, and I agree with most of what you said. I do have some reservations regarding the idea that Christians are permitted to continue observing the Law of Moses. I have watched a number of your videos and see this is a recurring phrase. This seems to contradict everything else you say about the nature and purpose of law. There is no manner of keeping the Law (or any law) other than obedience.
While I understand that Romans 14 mentions a temporary exception to allow for the newly converted weak brethren to become strong, I believe it's important to emphasize that this is not the general rule for believers. As Paul makes clear that Christians are not under the law, but are dead to it and freed from its demands. Therefore, we cannot continue to cling to Moses with one hand and Christ with the other. The former must be let go of.
I think it's crucial to avoid presenting the temporary exception in Romans 14 as a universal rule of permission for all believers to keep the Law of Moses. Rather, we should recognize that ultimately, the NT church is not subject to the opinions of the weak (14:1), but is called to mature to walk in the freedom and grace of Christ.
“..become as me [Paul]..” Gal. 4:12
Thank you for your time and for sharing your insights with us.
God Bless, Steve
Thanks, Steve. When I talk about “permitted but not required“ I try to be careful not to say “keep the law” but rather “keep the Mosaic rituals.“ In other words, I don’t think keeping the Mosaic law is appropriate for Christians in terms of legal obedience. But I do believe including rituals such as eating kosher or the Torah feasts in one’s Christian walk is not a problem. Particularly for Jewish believers in Jesus.
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots Thank you Rob. The Mosaic law was a legal code given to the Israelites, and its rituals were an integral part of that code. It is illusory to imagine that one can keep the rituals of the law without keeping the law itself. Attempting to separate the two is an arbitrary and artificial distinction. The rituals were designed to be inseparable from the legal obedience required of the Israelites, and not standalone practices that could be observed in isolation from the rest of the law. They were to be observed with specific rituals, sacrifices, and offerings at the Temple. Since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, it is not possible to observe these practices in the way they were instructed. And as believers in Christ, we are called to walk in the freedom and grace that He has given us, rather than attempting to blend the teachings of Christ with incomplete or outdated practices.
The yearly feast days were prophetic of Christ. However, when these feasts were fulfilled in Christ's sacrifice, his resurrection, ascension, and the Day of Pentecost, there was no longer a need to continue the feasts. In fact, continuing to observe them would suggest a lack of belief in their fulfillment. We are now instructed to remember Christ's death through the observance of the Lord's Supper. Unlike the Mosaic feasts, the Lord's Supper is not prophetic but rather a commemoration of what Christ has already accomplished through his death and resurrection.
Furthermore, trying to practice Mosaic rituals acknowledges the authority and relevance of the Law, which contradicts the teachings of Paul. As believers in Christ, we are called to walk in freedom and grace, rather than trying marry the teachings of Christ with elements of the Mosaic Law.
Galatians 3:28 makes it clear that there is no distinction between Jewish and Gentile believers in Christ, so we should not cling to old legalistic practices. Though it may be tempting for Jewish believers in Jesus to maintain cultural practices, we must be cautious not to do so at the expense of the gospel message. Mixing the old and new covenants leads to confusion, division, and a distorted understanding of the gospel. Steve
If Paul was taken into the desert for three years after his conversion (I believe this) what was he taught? He already knew the Torah inside and out. He was being taught the New Covenant and this is what he taught the Galatians. The Galatians were made up of Celtic druids that had come in and ransacked the area and taken over. They were definitely not Jewish. Would Paul have taken years to teach them the Torah?
Great point!
RLS
Thanks Rob for another great teaching on Galatians.
Rob, Faith Working Through Love: Paul's Rejection of the Idea of Obedience to any or the Whole Law of Moses (Galatians 5)
Paul's argument in Galatians is not limited to reacting to keeping certain aspects of the Law, such as days (4:9-10) and circumcision (5:1ff). His contention is that if any part of the Law is to be kept, then all of it must be kept, and this is what he strongly opposes. According to Paul's reasoning, the keeping of the "whole Law" is what believers are to not be entangled again with.
The underlying assumption is that adherence to any part of the Law necessitates complete compliance and can only serve as a means of justification, rather than as a matter of personal choice. The Law's very essence requires obedience under the threat of punishment, leaving no room for voluntary observance. Hence, any effort to uphold the Law is inherently associated with the quest for justification.
Although circumcision or a certain diet may be practiced for reasons unrelated to obedience to the Mosaic Law, popular and persisting practices of observing Jewish holy days, the Sabbath, garment regulations and tithing cannot be separated from obedience to the Law. The new covenant provides a superior, comprehensive and complete framework for faith, conduct, and practice, which includes not only the teachings and example of Jesus and the apostles but also the guidance and empowerment of the Holy Spirit.
The concepts of "faith working through love" (Galatians 5:6) and "obeying the truth" (Galatians 5:7) are in opposition to the idea of being burdened by "a yoke of bondage" (Galatians 5:1) and attempting to "keep the whole law" (Galatians 5:3). In other words, the Christian life is not about following a set of rules and regulations, but rather it is characterized by an inward faith that expresses itself outwardly through love for God and others, by obedience to the truth revealed in Jesus Christ. The Law of Moses cannot bring salvation or true righteousness, as it is only through faith in Christ that we are justified and made right with God.
Paul's gospel is that believers are dead to the practices of the whole Law, and any attempt to revert to the Old system that God has replaced through Christ is misguided and contrary to the exercise of faith working through love.
Shalom,
Steve
In deuteronomy 18v15 could you see paul as the prophet that is necessary to listen to
I don't believe so, Clif. Paul was an apostle and a teacher, not he's never called a prophet. And Jesus is the one who taught him (Gal. 1:11-12)!
Shalom, RLS
“ You observe days and months and seasons and years “ if you look at the Greek you might notice that Paul is referring to Gentile practices , similar to Christian practices of Christ-mass and Easter and following the Pope’s calendar instead of the God’s calendar. Got Torah Got Truth
And you follow the pagan Babylonian calendar which the Jewish calendar TODAY is based off
This was a great teaching, Rob! You explained it so clear! I just can’t understand why some people seem to prefer Slavery to freedom! I’m so glad Jesus set the Captives free!
But I guess some people, unfortunately, don’t know what to do with their new found freedom, and decide to make their own rules, only to end up behind bars again.😒
Thanks Rob…this was such a rich teaching packed with so much….I love the chalk board…I’m a visual learner…brilliant ❤️🙏
Thanks, Robyn! I'm a visual learner, too.
Shalom, Rob
I have heard that very thing that in order to understand the Gospel that we have to interpret it from the Jewish perspective. So the way you explained the "Christ Event" and the quote was fantastic and very helpful to me.
I don’t think the law of Moses was ever considered weak and elementary ways of the world. And the people of Galacia observed weeks and months and days and years could mean pagan worship of the goddess of Diana since the temple was just a stones throw away from where he was teaching. I think they too had their set-apart seasons.
Excellent concise teaching…sadly, the root of HRM is simply a need for control and ultimately pride. You will know them by their fruits. And more sad, is that a great portion of them, seem to be self proclaimed outcasts to begin with, broken by church harm (weakness), substance abuse, childhood trauma/abuse, etc. They are trying to find a place to belong…The Bride needs to stand up for the broken and outcast! Love God, Love people!
Regardless of the bad apples, they are dead right about believers obeying God's law. It is sad that so-called Christians twist Paul's letters to make him say what he does not say as Peter warned about, falling in the error of lawlessness. I HRM is messed up in terms of accountability, lack of spiritual maturity, even antisemitism, but they are right about the law of Moses. Isaiah 56:1-8 clearly says it. I am a Messianic Jew, I do not like the HRM nonsense but I have to agree with them that God did not come to abolish the law or the prophets as Messiah said in Matthew.
@@moisesg.v.1575, physical descendant of Abraham?
@@moisesg.v.1575, how are you doing at keeping the whole law?
The Israelites in Egypt found favour ( grace ) , lived because of the blood of the lamb, went through the waters ( baptism )….How many entered the promised land? …not to many…Why?….they were disobedient. Got Torah Got Truth
Actually, Harry, the reason hardly anyone made it into the promised land was not because they disobeyed a law, it was because they lacked faith!
"And the Lord said to Moses, “How long will this people despise me? And how long will they *not believe in me,* in spite of all the signs that I have done among them? (Num 14:11). And then Yahweh told Israel, "But as for you, your dead bodies shall fall in this wilderness. And your children shall be shepherds in the wilderness forty years and shall suffer *for your faithlessness,* until the last of your dead bodies lies in the wilderness" (Num 14:32-33).
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots even the demons believe, they just don’t obey. Believing in Yehoshua means obedience. Believing something about Him is just head knowledge. Faithlessness is disobedience where as faithfulness is obedience simply because you don’t have faith without being faithful. Abraham was called a man of faith because he was faithful, had he not obeyed God he would not have been referred to as a man of faith. Got Torah Got Truth
@@harryabrahams2770 "Abram believed the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness" (Gen 15:6).
@@TheBiblicalRoots Had Abraham not obeyed would he still have been credited with righteousness? Got Torah Got Truth
Let’s not forget to pray for our Torah observant peeps !
Yes. Great reminder. Thank you.
@@JeffSmith-it4tm Hello, Just for clarity can you point out when exactly Rob says Lawlessness is rejecting Torah? and What scripture do you call Torah?
Excellent💕...cast out the slave woman( the old covenant) and her son ( adherents of the old covenant ) Jews and judaizers
The context is about Peter who turned again to sin, a servant of sin, not ambiguous at all. Like Hebrews he speaks of backsliding into a statute of sin, or repents is free from the bondage of sin, and prefers the forgiveness of grace and that statute.
Paul is in the same position as Peter, and Paul preaches the gospel of grace for repentance from sin as Gal 6:1-10, grace is not a licence to sin.
Unfortunately Christianity has the wrong perception of the Cross, as no.man can pay for anothers sins, we need forgiveness from repentance. The gospel of Christ is the opportunity of salvation by sanctification.
They were not replacing the freedom of Christ, for works salvation, but turning to sin and sacrifice as slaves to sin.
My question is , I know that we Gentiles were never part of the law that was given to Moses, do we have to pay tithe and observe Sabbath?
Hello, Violet. I do not believe that Christians are obligated to tithe or observe the Mosaic Sabbath as a matter of obedience. We are free to do those things, of course. But what we are called to under the New Covenant is much bigger than that. We are called to generously give of our money, resources, and time to those in need, and to support those preaching and teaching the Word. We are also called to rest in the Lord, to honor Him and set aside time for (and with) Him, though it does not necessarily need to be expressed within the context of a seventh-day rest.
Blessings, Rob
That is up to you.but if want to be part of the kingdom of Israel I would go to the holy spirit not a man..see Hebrew 4..read the whole chapter and pray about ..father coming very soon
@@TheBiblicalRoots Thanks for your reply, I also believe the same just that I wanted to hear from you since your teach about the law.I believe Jesus is the end of the law and we Christians have no need to observe the law.God bless you
@@JeffSmith-it4tm Your Cult loves to quote Matthew 7:21-23. Jesus is speaking to Torah Keepers who bragged about their WORKS, Hmmmm How did that work out? It is comments like yours is why I claim your Cult is for the LowIQ'd
Matthew Henry agrees with Rob "The Jewish convert might observe the ceremonies or assert his liberty, the Gentile might disregard them or might attend to them, provided he did not depend upon them. No outward privileges or profession will avail to acceptance with God, without sincere faith in our Lord Jesus. True faith is a working grace; it works by love to God, and to our brethren"
Don't you think you are out context ?
What is the Torah ? Torah members tell me different things, I think it’s basically what they want to observe . Also what does observe mean? to just look at or obligated to do it. Some act as if there is not a New Covenant because then the old wouldn’t be …fun anymore. Also if the Torah is just the 1st 5 books does that mean Jesus’ teachings aren’t Gods word or instructions. I think it’s because he was just quoting Torah so he really wasn’t saying anything NEW!
The well never give a definition, they throw that word around as the do Matthew 5. It is their ignorance that confuses them
The Torah aka the Pentateuch is the First 5 books of the bible.
What is important to remember is that the Torah was written in the context of the ancient near East.
The Torah is basically a Suzerain Treaty.
A suzerain Treaty is where a King would take on another nation as a vassal.
The Suzerain or Lord would establish what the vassal would now need to do to please their new overlord in the form of stipulations.
Then the Suzerain would include what blessings they would receive if they were loyal and what curse would fall on them if they were not.
Treaty stipulations do not legislate , they provide instructions in the wisdom of how to be loyal vassals.
Suzerain took on vassals to glorify themselves and to make their name great.
Vassals were seen as extensions of him and what they did reflected the character of the Suzerain.
In this case God/YHWH is the Suzerain and the nation of Israel is the Vassals
@@joshuamelton9148 You just showed us what the Doctrine of man looks like
@@salpezzino7803 I'm surprised that you never heard of the Suzerain Treaty. It was very common in the Ancient near East. And the people of Israel would have understood it.
The concept of the suzerain Treaty is very much foreign in western culture.
@@joshuamelton9148 It wasnt a Suzerain Treaty that surprised me it was you rejecting a Covenant made by God in favor of a man made covenant. Thus, you piping a man-made doctrine.
Since the Mosaic Law came out of the mouth of GOD who came from Heaven it is impossible that the phrase “ weak and worthless elementary principles of the world “ is referring to the Torah. Try connecting the “ weak and worthless “ to the flesh ( man made). Got Torah Got Truth
Hello Rob.
I'm gonna track you down and get your attention one way or another....(smile). The question below has been presented to you a couple of different times and maybe you haven't seen it, so I'll present it again here;
I presented this question to you under another interview you did with Vocab Malone and I didn't get your reply. I'll restate my question and hopefully you will be able to respond. My question;
If the black Hebrew's have been identified as imposters and the British theory just as questionable, how do you come to decide that the persons occupying the land of Israel today are the Semites of 1of the 12 tribes? Is Koestler a fraud? He wrote the book, "The 13th Tribe". Please help me to understand your position. Shalom!
Hello, Emmanuel. Just to set your expectations appropriately, there are not enough hours in the day for me to respond to your every question that is asked of me across all my social media channels. To answer this question, I do not presume that every person in Israel today has descended from one of the tribes of ancient Israel. Shalom, RLS
Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the expectation. Shalom!
Rob doesn’t get Paul’s metaphor between Hagar and Sarah because he misses the context of the letter to the Galatians. He creates a straw-man argument against those who teach a balanced walk in the Law of Moshe (i.e., Laws of YaH).
Paul addressing two covenants. The Sinai Covenant represents the birth of the nation and its wedding covenant. The context shows Paul is battling oral traditions of proselytising a gentile to becoming a Jew, trying to make them a full member of the covenant of Israel. Thus attaching oral law to this covenant making it a salvation by ethnicity. The Sinai Covenant doesn’t teach salvation by ethnicity. It’s not about wether to keep the laws of Moshe or not after being redeemed. Current Yerushalayim (sect of Pharisees) created a perverted means of coming into the covenant by physically becoming a Jew through their oral laws, thus acting like Avraham did with Hagar. Trying to make the promise come through physical means.
Sarah represents the work of Yeshua. The promise comes through a supernatural work of YaHweh.
Blessings
Tony
Hi, Tony. Where do see the idea of "salvation by ethnicity"? I don't see that in the text or the context of Galatians.
Also, I'm not quite following how "attaching oral law to this covenant" would make it "salvation by ethnicity." Even if the Judaizers were "proselytizing a gentile to becoming a Jew," that would not make the Gentiles _ethnic_ Jews but rather Jews in practice. There is no way for a Gentile to "physically become a Jew."
Thanks for any clarification you care to offer.
Shalom, RLS
Tony I was talking about you to your boy Mitch. You truly are nutZ. How many times a day do you say 'straw-man' about Christian Orthodoxy? Did you even find those 5 men of God who teach the Cross plus the law of Moses from 5 different Centuries? God throws false teachers into the Lake of Fire.
@@TheBiblicalRoots He played the 'oral law' with me. I believe he has a drinking problem
@@TheBiblicalRoots
The entire book of Galatians is about the oral traditions built around the command of circumcision. It is what Paul called “works of law” or proselytising gentiles into their full Judaism. This was a system by the Pharisees bringing a gentile into full membership ( Matt 23:15). This was in their eyes a gentile becoming a Jew (i.e., full covenant member). Anything less and you weren’t truly a full member in the covenant. Once you completed their sectarian system, circumcision was the final step. One must go through the book of Galatians and see when the definite article “the” in Greek is use and see when it isn’t. The word “nomos” doesn’t always mean Law of Moshe in Galatians. It can also mean another law.
The Greek term “Ioudaismos” in Gal 2:14 is also found in Esther 8:17 LXX.
“Throughout every province and throughout every city, wherever the king’s edict and his law went, the Jews had gladness and joy, banquets and holidays. Many peoples of the land 👉🏻became Jews, (ιουδάιζον )👈🏻 because the fear of the Jews had overcome them.”
Esther 8:17
Rob, are you not familiar with Josephus in Antiquities 20.17-48 where he recounts the conversion of King Izates of Adiabene and his mother Helena (ca. 44-47 CE). Izates adopted Jewish customs and beliefs when a Jewish merchant called Ananias visited the king's wives and "taught them to worship God after the manner of the Jewish tradition" and "persuaded him [prince Izates], in like manner, to embrace that religion." Concurrently, Queen Helena had "likewise been instructed by another Jew and had been brought over to their laws.
Jews were not permitted to keep company or eat with someone who hadn’t fully converted and taken on their proselytising system.
“And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an 👉🏻unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; 👈🏻 but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.”
Acts 10:28
👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 This not Law of Moshe but oral law (i.e., works of laws).
This is ethnic pride and in the eyes of those forcing conversion, the gentile only becomes a full member of the covenant by converting. This is the driving force of Galatians. Paul is in no way teaching the circumcision party are teaching one must keep the law of Moshe to be saved. It’s their “works of law (ma’asei Torah) or proselytising system.
messianicapologetics.blog/faqs/W_Works_of_the_Law.pdf
@@TonyPino777Yeshuasaves no it is not oral traditions that why Paul is LITERALLY quoting from the Law curses is anyone the doesn’t abide BY ALL THINGS >>WRITTEN
Rob, stop making strawman arguments and assumptions about people you don't know. The "don't believe me just look at my comment section" argument you make often about "torahists" (I hate that word) being divisive and vile is false. I see comment after comment of people explaining their rebuttle with eloquence, some in brevity and some with great detail. But then I see alot of "christian anti-torahists" throw one liners along with being very unpleasant and smug, yes that includes you.
The only divisiveness I have ever experienced is from the people who don't WANT to obey Ha'Shem and will do anything an everything to prove it.
BTW. I've met Warren Wiersbe, stayed at his house and eaten at his table many times. He explained the acorn analogy to me when I was young over breakfast. It didn't make sense then and still doesn't. He was a very jolly old man and his wife was the sweetest lady. But that doesn't mean I agree with him, not at all.
My brother do you mean tha Paul equated Worthless elementary principles of the world to the law of God? Let us be serious, that is the same Paul who asked in Romans 3:31 do we then nullify the law by this faith? Certainly not, we upholded the law.... that same feast that you call people legalistic for, we will continue celebrating them during the milenial reign of Jesus: from one new moon to another and from one sabbath to another isaiah 66:23
Have you read the scriptures before Romans 3:31? Or do you just vomit what your false teachers taught you? Romans 3:27 Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith.
My brother thank you. What is the law of faith then? Peter was right when he prophesied in 2 Peter 3: 15 -17.
@@jobjoseph1815 We know what it is not. it isnt the Law of Moses. Galatians 3:11Now it is clear that no one is justified before God by the law, because, “The righteous will live by faith.” 12The law, however, is not based on faith; on the contrary, “The man who does these things will live by them.” now check out the 'law of Christ'
@@jobjoseph1815 Peter wasn't prophesizing. It was obviously Jews and Jewish believers who were having a hard time understanding Paul. We see this throughout Acts. Acts 14: 19 But Jews came from Antioch and Iconium, and having persuaded the crowds, they stoned Paul and dragged him out of the city, supposing that he was dead.
@@salpezzino7803 plz list all of the laws of the law of Christ...thanks
Nice effort in putting the video together with time stamps etc, but sadly completely false teachings - please pray and re-evaluate your understanding of scripture. The Law of God is for all to keep.
He didn't say the Law of God wasn't for all, but this book of Galatians is about the Gospel is power unto Salvation and the Law can't do that despite The law being Good it has no power unto Salvation. The law only makes u a good doer or good person at following the law which is GOOD, but it doesn't deal with we are guilty CRIMINALS BEFORE GOD. If u read the book of galatians at what it says. U should come to that conclusions
Thanks, LD! I agree that we're each expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us.
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots I think you haven't understood my speech clearly, thats my fault. Ones who proclaim faith in jesus will follow the law of God, and yes they will apply what only applies to them, e.g I'm not a Leviticus priest, there isn't a temple and I'm not a woman. So keeping God's commandants that are applicable to day e.g Sabbaths feasts clean eating etc all for all who are grafted into Israel, which is I'm sure you are aware of is what happens when we are born again.
@@lastdance29 It is hard to understand those who are dead. The Word is folly to you, those In Christ read the Word with the help of the Helper
Last Dance...
Have you ever read this?
**He has revealed his word to Jacob,
his laws and decrees to Israel.
He has done this for NO OTHER nation;
they DO NOT know his laws Psalm 147
Where is this law that God gave all humanity in the bible?
The two covenants , one of the FLESH which you listed as OLD came out of God’s mouth who came from Heaven. Can you please explain how you’ve come to the conclusion that what originated from God you’ve managed to put in the flesh category. It makes no sense
that God frees the slaves in Egypt to put them back into slavery using the Torah. Got Torah Got Truth
HI Harry. It wasn't me that put the law in the slavery and flesh category. It sounds like your problem is with the apostle Paul. ;-) And, as I've mentioned a few times in this series, Paul is talking about one aspect of the law in this book. It is not his entire view of it. He is highlighting the restrictive aspect of the law as it compares to the freedom of Jesus and the Gospel.
RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots I have absolutely no problem with Paul. He never refers to the two covenants as old or new , he refers to them as of the flesh or not of the flesh. In your video you referred the two covenants as old or new and and recognized that of the flesh was in reference to Abraham and Sara adding to God’s word. So whoever was adding to God’s word had to be man and since God is not a man and the Torah came from Heaven where Jerusalem is and the Torah is perfect, so attributing to flesh what came from God is not something Paul would do. Got Torah Got Truth
Paul compares the slavery in Egypt to slavery to sin which is the breaking of the Torah and not the keeping of the the Torah. In plain English NOT keeping the Torah is what enslaves people to sin because sin is the transgression of the Torah. Got Torah Got Truth
According this man, Paul preached a different gospel than Jesus Himself.. He is wrong. Im sorry. They both preached the same thing. What Paul is talking about is SALVATION.. Saved by Faith in Jesus, period. But what this man is teaching you all is that after you are saved, you should not be obedient to God. Its ridiculous. Salvation first, then the process of Sanctification.. We are to OBEY the commandments of God. There are several LAWS in Galatians. If you dont understand first century Judaisms you cannot understand Galatians.
Actually, Mr. Rogers. I believe and teach that we very much *are* called to obey God. Remember that not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands were only given to certain people (ex. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses), or for certain times (ex. building an ark, gathering manna) and we're each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. And the ceremonial Mosaic commands do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required, nor is a priesthood, or a temple.) “But now we are released from the law, having died with Christ to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6).
Shalom, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots I agree with what you wrote here.. Many of the commands we CANNOT keep without the temple, priesthood etc. But what about the ones we can keep? Example- Shabbat? Or avoiding the unclean foods God has listed? There is no evidence I have found of the followers of Christ eating unclean foods after his death and resurrection. Not until much later. Jesus didnt do it, so why would we? Why not simply walk as HE walked (as much as possible).. After all He is our teacher correct?
Romans 14 is not about the Torah. The context is about peoples OPINIONS. It says so in the
1st verse. Scripture is much easier to understand if taken in context. Got Torah Got Truth
Wrong🤣
Exactly! In the church in Rome it was some people's opinion that certain days should be kept, or a certain diet should be kept. (He called this group the weak in faith.) It was other people's opinion that they were free to celebrate any day or eat any food as long as they did so in honor of the Lord. And Paul tells them not to quarrel over opinions. #GotTorahGotTruth
RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots this was about eating and not eating certain days ( fasting ) or eating vegetables only ( vegetarian ) this was not an okay by Paul to sin by transgressing the Torah.. To honour
Yehoshua would be obedient to His word. Disobedience would be a sure way to dishonour Him. Got Torah Got Truth
7:25
You are misunderstanding the words of Paul. He is not saying to Christians they do not have obey God's law if they are saved, but rather, don't follow Jewish law (man-made commandments which are worthless elementary principles of the world and not from God) in order to be saved as if by doing all those man-made requirements they could earn their salvation. That is the issue here. Paul makes sure to clarify this in his letter to the Romans where he asks the question "Do we nullify, make void, of no effect, forsake the Law of God by this faith in Jesus? God forbid! He answers to that question, and he adds, "on the contrary, we establish the Law". So the Law is how anyone that believes in God must live as Isaiah 56:1-8 reflects, including Gentiles coming to the faith. Therefore my friend, you are misreading the text, you are introducing ideas alien to Paul's mind and by doing so contradicting his own words. Peter warned us about people misinterpreting Paul's letter and falling in the error of lawlessness by doing so. The Law is still valid and good and will last until the end of the 1,000 years reign of Messiah from Jerusalem. The issue is like this, you have people that think they need to convert to rabbinic Judaism which is man-made (not God's Law given to Moses) in order to be saved, like getting circumcised not as a token of the faith (God's Law) but rather as symbol of conversion to Judaism as a means of salvation (rabbinic Judaism), and then you have those who reject God's Law because they think Jesus got rid of that even though Jesus himself in Matthew said not to even think such a thing (go figure). So both extremes are wrong. The correct interpretation is Paul's own explanation, do not try to earn your salvation by converting to a man-made religion (Judaism or any other) and do not think you can live your life in disobedience to God's Law if you have come to faith. So the believer MUST believe in Jesus to be saved then MUST obey God's Law as lifestyle, set apart for God if truly in covenant with him. Isaiah 56:1-8 is as clear as it can get for it is directed to Gentiles coming to faith until the end of times and even during the milenial reign of Messiah from Jerusalem, once the third temple is rebuilt.