What Courting In Regency England Was Actually Like

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  • Courtship during the Regency period was serious business. Finding a partner involved a series of practical and romantic considerations as well as a strict adherence to Regency courting etiquette.
    The Regency era - which technically lasted in Great Britain from 1811 to 1820, but was part of the larger social and cultural era of the late 18th and early 19th centuries - might have had a reputation for licentiousness when it came to matters of the heart. But it also was an era of politeness and gentility, and rules governed how middle- and upper-class couples should interact with one another.
    #RegencyEngland #DatingHistory #WeirdHistory

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  • @Gerry1of1
    @Gerry1of1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1375

    In Jane Austen's novels, which were written in the Regency Era, her ladies often had occasion to be with gentlemen alone, unchaperoned. Walking with Col. Fitzwilliam, Mr. Darcy's first visit to Elizabeth, etc. The ideal was to be chaperoned but I don't think they payed as much attention to that rule as historians think. Much like we today don't really behave according to good etiquette all the time either.

    • @41052
      @41052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Yeah but we are much more free to do what we want. But as we know back then it was much more strict.

    • @elizabethblackwell6242
      @elizabethblackwell6242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      This channel should not be mistaken for actual history. It's more like a reality TV show for history.

    • @phannah143
      @phannah143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Same with Bridgerton actually a lot of times Kate and Anthony were together alone i think that would only be a problem if someone sees them alone.

    • @birdydumpling1826
      @birdydumpling1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      They were alone but outdoors in public or alone in an open carriage.. Alone in a closed carriage now that different!

    • @birdydumpling1826
      @birdydumpling1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@phannah143 I read Bridgerton and it has nothing to do with the Regency. Their speech, manners, actions, notions, attitudes, etc none of it Regency. Hugely inaccurate and misleading.

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    @abijitrd5035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +820

    this channel found its niche, and its exploring topics that we all never cared about, but loved to hear

    • @lsrpjune3500
      @lsrpjune3500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lucy Summer why would an american need to know what England’s courting procedures were?! Lmfao stop the bull****

    • @lsrpjune3500
      @lsrpjune3500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lucy Summer don’t you think that’s a piece of very non-useful information to know? Why would I care of that when I can learn that true britons are practically all dead, and that the current Uk folk come from pagans who mass slaughtered the true britons once the romans left England. Yeah I bet an American would have no idea of such things. And I bet the usa wouldn’t teach it. No. We learned that too. This shit information rots the brain 😂😂😅 especially when it talks about first cousins having sex

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      @ashleelarsen5002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mostly about drugs

    • @eloisel7449
      @eloisel7449 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ur wrong i specifically searched abt this!! Im glad he made one!

  • @toomanyopinions8353
    @toomanyopinions8353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1466

    I would have liked to hear more about the lower class' traditions

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      They didn’t go elaborate lol were more honest in their courtships

    • @quanbrooklynkid7776
      @quanbrooklynkid7776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AstarionWifey ha

    • @sarahhavillamelooliveira5825
      @sarahhavillamelooliveira5825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I like you, you like me... let's marry? I hope something like that.

    • @elizabethblackwell6242
      @elizabethblackwell6242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The lower classes did not have "traditions".

    • @jp9707
      @jp9707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      @@elizabethblackwell6242 why wouldn't they? Every culture and sub-culture has their traditions. Just because the working class didn't have money, doesn't mean they didn't have any creativity or culture of their own. Their traditions probably just cost less!

  • @laserbeam002
    @laserbeam002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    I can understand the money thing....My old uncle used to say, "When poverty comes in the back door love goes out the front door". I found out the hard way he was right.

    • @morganeazar5864
      @morganeazar5864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      could you explain further what you mean by any chance? what does it have to do with love

    • @laserbeam002
      @laserbeam002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@morganeazar5864 My uncle meant that many times when a young couple fall in love and get married they are happy BUT then hard times come along and they go into poverty and suddenly they are yelling at each other and fighting all the time, usually about bills and money. That is when love goes out of the marriage.

    • @morganeazar5864
      @morganeazar5864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@laserbeam002 ohh okay, I understand now thank you

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@laserbeam002 hard times show how deep the love/care about each other actually is. If both are on the same page and act accordingly it shouldn't cause friction between them, especially because being together usually is cheaper per person than on your own

    • @14Aymara
      @14Aymara 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@laserbeam002 - Not always. When love is real, the couple joins forces and works even harder, never letting the lack of money break the marriage. I know, I've been there.

  • @annemariecronen9096
    @annemariecronen9096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1003

    I would love to hear the differences between England and the US when it came to courting(if there were any)during this time period

    • @PurnceNMe
      @PurnceNMe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      The United States was barely a country at this time. They were still “colonists.” There was much less elaborate courtship and stuff.

    • @annemariecronen9096
      @annemariecronen9096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      @@PurnceNMe I'm aware of the history of our country. But there still would've been rules in place when it came to courting. Especially being a young country still having influences and traditions from England

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  • @Global_Havoc18
    @Global_Havoc18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    I'm glad he used so many snippets from the 1995 Pride and Prejudice. It's my favorite, and I always get annoyed that it gets passed over for the 2005 one. Plus the Sense and Sensibility one from the same year (1995). Loved that one too :)

    • @annemurphy9339
      @annemurphy9339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I completely agree!

    • @QueenSnowPea
      @QueenSnowPea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I agree as well. The 1995 A&E version is 4 hours long and had more to the story and Mr. D'Arcy played by Colin Firth was a far better and better looking one as well.

    • @oneslikeme
      @oneslikeme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Completely agree!

    • @cchang93cc
      @cchang93cc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I loved the 2005 one and Matthew's portrayal of Mr. Darcy.

    • @ahuddleston6512
      @ahuddleston6512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh, Mr Darcy!

  • @arielklay23
    @arielklay23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    2:45 thank you for correcting the confused idea that Darcy and Elizabeth Bennet were not of the same class.

    • @tymanung6382
      @tymanung6382 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They were socially of same de jure class.but
      economically different (objective, but not
      subjective) de facto "classes".

    • @monmothma3358
      @monmothma3358 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      But...but... Her uncle was in trade... In CHEAPSIDE!

  • @lt530
    @lt530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    There's a few stories in my family of couples that got married in Scotland... it always confused me as we were English and Irish but I'm starting to understand now 🤣. The women in my family have never been good at being obedient.

    • @bethpemberton7980
      @bethpemberton7980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Gretna Green in Scotland was especially popular with couples in a hurry bec it's just north of England's border!!

    • @TallulahFoxxx
      @TallulahFoxxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      As someone above said, Gretna Green is a famous wedding location for that reason ☺️ It always astonishes me how many Americans don’t understand that England and Britain aren’t the same thing 🙄😂🤦🏼‍♀️ OF COURSE “it didn’t apply to Scotland” 😂😂 We have separate legal systems 😂🤦🏼‍♀️ the UK is 4 countries in a union - not one country, with England as the “owner” of the others 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @Odo55
      @Odo55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TallulahFoxxx Does England recognize entirely marriages performed in Scotland ? They must, after all Princess Anne married Tim up there in Scotland ... yet England remains stubborn with their laws.

    • @rubynibs
      @rubynibs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TallulahFoxxx It's astonishing that you don't understand that Great Britain referred to England, Wales (which is meaningless to most people), and Scotland, which had a different system, meaning only England was important. How can you not know this?

    • @diabloakland
      @diabloakland ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol i thought of gretna green like other commenters too. It’s so interesting

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    @khadijahnyabinghi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I love all of Jane Austen's novels. She is the best.

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      @BBB-rd2qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @hannahrobbins1017
    @hannahrobbins1017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Sounds a lot like the academic job market 😂
    Mixing in public at conference events intended to match candidates with schools, a “season” when it all goes down, sharing gossip to learn who’s hiring and who’s interviewing with whom, the total financial dependence as a candidate of waiting for a school to make you an offer…
    SO glad I don’t have to go through that again - and that I don’t have to court in Regency England

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Good comparison. Both of those things give me the same gross feeling in my soul.

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  • @rpandher1939
    @rpandher1939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    After having read at least 60 historical romance novels post Bridgerton, none of the facts are a surprise. They are delightful.

    • @froggywithaheart
      @froggywithaheart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd love to know some of your favourite books...💞

    • @rpandher1939
      @rpandher1939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@froggywithaheart I wouldn't know where to start. Lol.
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  • @kathyevans3251
    @kathyevans3251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Courtship feels a little complicated during this time. (It still is)

    • @nameless1016
      @nameless1016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      then courtship: money
      now courtship: money
      not complicated.

    • @thegillmachine
      @thegillmachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@nameless1016 Yes! I always side-eye people when they complain how women today have gone downhill because they only care about money. I don’t remember it being any other way in history LOL.

    • @user-px2ot
      @user-px2ot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@thegillmachine and it even makes sense. If a woman wants to have kids with a man, she automatically puts herself in economical disadvantage. Realistically, even on time off, she will earn less. A man with good financial stability is important for the family's wellbeing. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather remain a "spinster" or be called a gold digger than marry a cheap ass. Men today expect women to go 50/50 but also cook, take care of the kids and be sexy and nice all the time.

  • @tremorsfan
    @tremorsfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I've always liked the clothing of the Regency Era. I feel like the Victorian Era was a step back.

    • @monicaline
      @monicaline ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Victorian era clothes look so heavy I’m so happy I’m in 2023 lol

    • @monicaline
      @monicaline ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can’t imagine my life without sweat pants and crop tops lol

  • @hilarymoonmurphy
    @hilarymoonmurphy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    But in the actual regency era, correspondence was not allowed between courting couples who were not yet engaged. This is a major plot point in Sense and Sensibility, and the main reason why Darcy's letter to Elizabeth was handled so discreetly, and why Elizabeth could not with propriety respond to him. Writing in courtship before being engaged was only allowed later in the Victorian era.

  • @brunoonoahu
    @brunoonoahu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Telling her to "jog on".....lol.....I love it......

  • @clarangakoana2634
    @clarangakoana2634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    The times were rigid as hell ,imagine going around with a chaperone on a date I would feel uncomfortable cause I'm already shy and here aunt magret is tapping along checking on us every minute. No thank u I would be a proud spinster 😂

    • @SonOfTheDawn515
      @SonOfTheDawn515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Rainbow Rose Princess Mishti you going on dates in the middle of the woods? There are people everywhere.

    • @bunnyfrosting1744
      @bunnyfrosting1744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@SonOfTheDawn515 so? People attack people in broad daylight in downtown squares all the time lol. I’m glad you haven’t had any scary experiences on dates yet though, the police don’t do much

    • @SonOfTheDawn515
      @SonOfTheDawn515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bunnyfrosting1744 I don't trust people as it is and I don't have an issue with new women who want their friends nearby. I'd encourage it but I don't want them as a third wheel.

    • @thegreencat9947
      @thegreencat9947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My grandmother was presiding when I had my first date. What a lecture I got afterwards. Nothing happened at all....how could it!

    • @KarenLeos91
      @KarenLeos91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not aunt margret!! 😭

  • @GoddessNeith
    @GoddessNeith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    NOTHING on Bridgerton is to be taken seriously from the clothing to the manners, to well, ANYTHING.

    • @sonnyroy497
      @sonnyroy497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      During the Regency period there was no mixing of the races in the middle or upper classes.

    • @GoddessNeith
      @GoddessNeith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sonnyroy497 this isn't reality or true history. It's a romance novel/show. Everyone knows it isn't showing facts. So they can use no traditional actors, horrible costumes and modern attitudes. Duh.

  • @LorienInksong
    @LorienInksong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I hate to say it but my social surroundings and first marriage were clearly really influenced by these ideals. Its a good wake-up call to be more careful if I ever pursue love again about what kind of social toxicity to look out for. If there's a next time its going to be different.

    • @Snezit1
      @Snezit1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who asked?

    • @slcRN1971
      @slcRN1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good luck, I can empathize with you. Fortunately, I’m remarried to a husband that looks out for my well-being and I look out for his.

    • @NegativeAccelerate
      @NegativeAccelerate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you explain more? We're you looking for a chaste wife and now you don't care?

  • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
    @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    According to my old-money adoptive Grandma, these rules behind 'appropriate marriage' didn't relax until the 1970's in affluent America, even on the west coast. If you're an Oregonian, you know about Lake Oswego.
    Right family name (and not too many cousins removed from the source...), attend the right church, live on the right side of the tracks, right schools, no history of associating with Jews or mingling between Catholics vs Presbyterians vs Lutherans, etc.

    • @ShelbyPlatt
      @ShelbyPlatt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What are the odds I’d find and watch a TH-cam video with a comment about the place I’m from? 😂❤

    • @connaeris8230
      @connaeris8230 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's why I say protestants aren't nice... Imagine not wanting to mingle with fellow protestants 😬

    • @monmothma3358
      @monmothma3358 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah that's partly what the hippie movement was about, I guess

  • @mulekickhandmadeguitars8465
    @mulekickhandmadeguitars8465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Money must be a matter of concern in love. Just ask the many women who fell hopelessly in love with, and married, men who left them with nothing to support and raise their children.

    • @hawsrulebegin7768
      @hawsrulebegin7768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Of course women are allowed to go out to work themselves these days I hear. They can even have bank accounts. I know, it was a shock to me too.

    • @AllisonChains64
      @AllisonChains64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well if you're going to speak about that, then you can also speak on the women that look for a man with the sole purpose of being a parasite that only looks to suck him dry of his hard earned money. It goes both ways.

    • @mulekickhandmadeguitars8465
      @mulekickhandmadeguitars8465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AllisonChains64 Depend on no one but you.

    • @mulekickhandmadeguitars8465
      @mulekickhandmadeguitars8465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hawsrulebegin7768 Those are the women who don't fall for the losers.

    • @AllisonChains64
      @AllisonChains64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mulekickhandmadeguitars8465 Lmao please just shut up. You don't know what point you're trying to make.

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Regency courtship sounds like a lot of work!
    🧑‍🔧🧑‍🔧🧑‍🔧🧑‍🔧

  • @hibiscus752
    @hibiscus752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love the narrator’s humor. It’s one of the reasons why I really like this channel.

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    @ShaySovaOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

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  • @cherryblossoms85
    @cherryblossoms85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I like the letter writing part I think it's sweet. I've always wondered why they called each other by their last names during this time too.

    • @delphinidin
      @delphinidin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Actually, one thing that the video doesn't explain is that generally, couples weren't allowed to write to one another until they were officially engaged! Toward the end of Jane Austen's Northanger Abbey, Catherine Morland's parents very kindly turn a blind eye to the fact that she and Mr. Tilney are clearly writing to one another, because they're *unofficially* engaged, so Mr. and Mrs. Morland feel like they can bend the rules for them!

    • @cherryblossoms85
      @cherryblossoms85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@delphinidin Ohh ok. See I didn't know that but thanks for stating it. :)

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      @k.h.6991 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @lemonecricket8501
    @lemonecricket8501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I would like to know about recency wedding trousseau. I would also like to know how they packed all their things in a trunk without it being just a goofy mess

  • @kimichan5
    @kimichan5 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I gotta admit though, I think modern American culture could take some notes from this era. We need more romance! And more manners and structure. Things are too casual and annoying these days 😩

    • @richelleg225
      @richelleg225 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The feminist movement kinda killed it.

    • @user-fw6xs5ko6g
      @user-fw6xs5ko6g ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@richelleg225 Woke culture in general.

    • @TheGamer2001
      @TheGamer2001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richelleg225 And males gladly jumped aboard. Don't try to blame everything on the woman and be sexist, dear, men are as guilty at propping up this "evil" as women, but I don't see people blaming them as well for some reason.

    • @cleanchannel3029
      @cleanchannel3029 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@richelleg225naw male culture killed it. Feminism came about because of male hypocrisy and trying to take away female autonomy and rights.

    • @yumi9626
      @yumi9626 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@richelleg225 it’s kind of weird to imagine that romance can only happen if people adhere to social norms

  • @tessat338
    @tessat338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The NFL Draft/Trade analogy was SPOT ON!

  • @terrylynn9984
    @terrylynn9984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    My 4th gr grandparents wed in 1808 in the Regency era, they were Harriet and Charles. Harriet was the daughter of a well to do merchant , she was 16 and Charles was 36 and a gentleman.
    I have a picture of their miniatures. Fascinating history for sure.

    • @rpandher1939
      @rpandher1939 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How fascinating!

    • @esmeraldagreen1992
      @esmeraldagreen1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rpandher1939
      Yes it is, it looks to me you are jealous.

    • @esmeraldagreen1992
      @esmeraldagreen1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My great grandmother was 20 years younger than her husband. Family legend has it that greatgrandfather was friends with her father and that when he saw my great grandmother as a child of 10, she was so beautiful that he told her father that he would wait for her to grow up and then he would marry her. Kinda of creepy if you ask me, but he did wait and they got married when she turned 18. Reportedly it was a happy marriage; it produced 7 children, one died young but the other six, my grandmother and her siblings lived long lives. After her husband died my great grandmother never remarried. Neither were nobility or upper-class, just regular middle class.

    • @rpandher1939
      @rpandher1939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Esmeralda Green I do not mock. I am genuinely fascinated in a good way, I love history and any link we can find to it. You are indeed lucky to have preserved a link to your ancestors, a miniature is so rare and thing to be cherished. I myself, belong to the family of Indian Matyr of Battle of Sarqgarhi and we have one potrait of him which we hold dear. Much love!

    • @terrylynn9984
      @terrylynn9984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rpandher1939 they actually attended King George the 4th coronation in 1820, the miniature of my 4 the great grandma on her gown was what she wore to it❤
      Love my family history, my french side to my mom I traced back to 1600s in France.

  • @k.c1126
    @k.c1126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I would have mentioned the predilection for young women - 16 to 22 - to marry men more than 10 years their senior. While I am aware this wasn't a particularly Regency thing to do, it seemed to be almost expected, regardless of class.

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And you had to marry somebody who was already out there making money.

    • @KarenLeos91
      @KarenLeos91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      True, I’ve read this in several regency romance novels and it always makes me feel icky

    • @k.c1126
      @k.c1126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@jasondashney LITERALLY. Young men not of the well to do levels of society usually had to wait until they were 'established' because the money they made had to provide for the entire family. It's really only been in the last 60 to 75 years when a woman who wanted to make sure her children were well provided for could opt for a man less than 7-10 years here senior. And men were expected to marry nubile, fertile young wives.

    • @k.c1126
      @k.c1126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@KarenLeos91 Really only stopped happening in the 1960s... If you read romance novels from that period you will find that the women were generally under 25, while the men were at least 35.

    • @tamtruong6657
      @tamtruong6657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ah Jane Eyre makes sense to me now

  • @diabloakland
    @diabloakland ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yesss i live for this shit. Been watching you for a few years now. I had a horrible health issue on the pandemic and was hospitalized for 2 months, i had watched you before but i think i binged all your videos that time. You really got me thru it. I love history especially regency restaurants culture. Can you do more like these

  • @alexblakney4860
    @alexblakney4860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    There would have been a population boom if Lord Marvin Gaye was played on the set list...

  • @gettfoffmynews3315
    @gettfoffmynews3315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Regency courtship wasn't the least bit romantic and modern courtship isn't either. The only romance is in a drama or a 📖.

  • @lux.illuminaughty
    @lux.illuminaughty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What do I think? I think your James Joyce quip was perfectly timed and hilarious! What a dirty birdy!

  • @jonahkuske4252
    @jonahkuske4252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    It's interesting that a widow was forbidden from marrying into the same family. Old testament Jews were actually instructed to marry their brother's widow.

    • @annemurphy9339
      @annemurphy9339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I believe that was strictly if the brother had died without producing an heir. If that occurred, the brother was to take the wife and sire an heir for his brother’s line, which always makes me wonder if only the first child was considered the child of the deceased brother, or if the surviving brother had to take an additional wife to have children considered his own. Probably the former … does anybody know?

    • @meganshah6079
      @meganshah6079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same in Islam

    • @JB-vd8bi
      @JB-vd8bi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah not once King Henry Vlll had his way.

    • @JB-vd8bi
      @JB-vd8bi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@annemurphy9339 yes it would cause succession issues

    • @Holidaygal
      @Holidaygal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JB-vd8bi It was due to Henry 8th when law a man could not marry his brother’s widow came into law in England, was not law in Scotland

  • @xplays7992
    @xplays7992 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Any Bridgerton watchers here ?🤚

    • @andreamartinez6929
      @andreamartinez6929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      me this is very interesting

    • @mread958
      @mread958 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me. Started latest season. Almost done. All the rules and customs confuse me so much. It would be so stifling to be a woman in that time.

  • @joesantos2455
    @joesantos2455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Haaaaaaa! "Except for the interesting conversation part!" ....you SLAY me Weird History you SLAY ME!!

  • @spriggansiedeutsch6817
    @spriggansiedeutsch6817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Loved that joke about the Knightleys. Jane Austen, for the win!

  • @elizabethzook4127
    @elizabethzook4127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The love letters 100% FALSE it was actually socially unacceptable for a single woman to correspond with a potential suitor in the regency period.

    • @LFalby
      @LFalby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree. He got that wrong. When Marianne Dashwood writes letters to Willoughby, that is confirmation to her sister Elinor, and everyone in the household who sees the letters, that Marianne and Willoughby have a secret engagement. Otherwise it is totally unacceptable for them to write to each other.

    • @randichance2857
      @randichance2857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's right. And when Mr Darcy wrote his letter of explanation to Elizabeth Bennet in Pride and Prejudice (clips shown in this video), he was going to extreme measures because he felt so strongly that he must explain himself. It was NOT something a gentleman was supposed to do. That's why he had to wait around outside to run into her on her walk to give the letter to her secretly before she left to go back home. If he had missed her, his chance would have been lost because he could not have sent the letter to her home.

  • @btetschner
    @btetschner 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A+ video!
    LOVE IT! Never knew the courting process was so fascinating!

  • @hopefletcher7420
    @hopefletcher7420 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoyed reading many Regency Romance novels and knew, of course, about eloping to Gretna Green. I never thought about *why* they'd go to Scotland, so thank you for explaining it!

  • @laceisaverb
    @laceisaverb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Important to note that historically child marriages were never consummated until they were both of age. Child marriages were about securing family alliances, and the young pair were kept separate until they were old enough.

  • @ThatgeekNolan
    @ThatgeekNolan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People are still eloping to Gretna Green to this day, although usually they invite a few friends and family members along fo the party. My husband and I got married in the old blacksmith’s shop, last year.

  • @KaylaNoelle1
    @KaylaNoelle1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Damn, so my theatre degree would help me bag a wealthy gentleman back in the day?? They made us learn accounting and business negotiation skills though... I'm not sure a man of that era would appreciate that very much. :(

    • @marymaryquitecontrary
      @marymaryquitecontrary 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your participation in the theatre, with or without a degree (ever heard the term "opera dancer"?), could easily net you a the attention of a wealthy man. But not a wedding ring, alas.

  • @Benni777
    @Benni777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Kinda sounds like a theatre major, except without the conversation part”
    Me: a theatre kid at heart: *E X C U S E ME?!?!* 🙀😂

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your response, all caps, in bold, with a spaced out first word for no reason could not more perfectly have illustrated his point.

    • @Benni777
      @Benni777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasondashney *t h a n k s I t r y* 😏😂

  • @wildchild96
    @wildchild96 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think I’m considered to be upper middle class but my husband is lower middle class/ and he has taught me so so much in way of politics. But I can say I am so thankful I found him and if I were living in a different decade I would say say my parents wouldn’t approve and I wouldn’t be as happy as I am. Love that there isn’t a social standard for marriage and dating (at least for my social class)

  • @nknh
    @nknh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I clicked on this video, I had to watch two ads for the show Bridgertons and at the end of the video there's an ad for the show Outlander. Just wanted to let youtube know that their marketing algorithm is working, that's all.

  • @datheamore6395
    @datheamore6395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That theater major zinger you snuck in there was solid.😂

  • @cadillacdeville5828
    @cadillacdeville5828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    WH uploading is always a win.

  • @maiyukinoshita2458
    @maiyukinoshita2458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this tradition's courting process.

  • @monicafur
    @monicafur ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finding love in a marriage is rare. Love comes after outside of marriage and women could too if she was discreet. Lol! "Children need love, adults need money." I really love this video. Thank you!

  • @dachshundsaremylife667
    @dachshundsaremylife667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these kind of Chanel’s so much! I love Learning and being entertained it’s sticks longer and it’s just super fascinating. I am so glad in a lot of ways for modern times and how things have changed.

  • @BoninBrighton
    @BoninBrighton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The season included Brighton which offered a less formal season by the sea. The nobility went there to escape the hot smelly summers in London.

  • @Michelle-bf7ph
    @Michelle-bf7ph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I am a history nerd 💯. I really appreciate these videos. It's just absolutely fascinating.

  • @darthlaurel
    @darthlaurel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I think is that I'd definitely forgotten how much I hated the 2005 P&P.
    Thanks for the reminder.

  • @alicedrewe2330
    @alicedrewe2330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    1. They had to marry within the same class because there were no jobs for them. The gentry lived off the interest on the estate they inherited.
    2. Young age was normal because the average age of death was lower and there was no welfare system. What's to become of a 15 year old girl if her father dies? She had to get married to survive.
    3. Women had to have a pure virginal reputation because there was no cure for sexually transmitted diseases. Sexual relations had to be strictly governed by everyone or incurable disease could pass. We forget what life was like before antibiotics.

    • @juliac3933
      @juliac3933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Men get STDs too???

    • @TheMcKenzieHaus
      @TheMcKenzieHaus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of those virgins got the STDs from their husbands. The women were virgins because of society expectations of how women needed to be pure and to ensure that paternity was clear.

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@juliac3933 duh lol

    • @SassyyjuicyMaria
      @SassyyjuicyMaria 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Double standards right there. Men also
      got STDs, din't they???

    • @Gergentine
      @Gergentine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah. I get it but damn thats an awful way to live 🤣 really makes you realize not to take what you have for granted.

  • @amyj.4992
    @amyj.4992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hail from polite southern society, the English and the south shared similar upper class manners and behaviors with courting

    • @amyj.4992
      @amyj.4992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Etiquette matter, in the Southern Belle culture

  • @hawsrulebegin7768
    @hawsrulebegin7768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The good ol’ days. Writing letters! Wild!

  • @ButtonsCasey
    @ButtonsCasey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Now I want to go read a historical romance based in regency times.

    • @elizabethwoolnough4358
      @elizabethwoolnough4358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Georgette Heyer is the Queen of regency romance. Her books are meticulously researched and authentic.

    • @randichance2857
      @randichance2857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Try Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen!

  • @itspierre8415
    @itspierre8415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best combination of knowledge history and comedy

  • @alicerivierre
    @alicerivierre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, I gotta read this book! 📖❤

  • @nahoooli
    @nahoooli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone from an upper class Arab Muslim family - most of these customs are still very much intact today. It was so cool to see the Bridgerton girls get chaperoned.

  • @TheTeutonicPlague
    @TheTeutonicPlague 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How bout courtship in the antebellum south?

    • @itsniquenique45
      @itsniquenique45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was similar. So I'd be interested to see comparisons and contrasts

  • @chrystal108reading4
    @chrystal108reading4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    brilliantly and whittingly portrayed...I just found your YT channel..you have a new subscriber ,)

  • @middleagedCFCL
    @middleagedCFCL ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Going to use this with my 11th graders. We're reading Pride & Prejudice.

  • @cjayj442
    @cjayj442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So...are those romance novels you flashed on screen any good? Asking for a friend...

  • @dianariverjackson5123
    @dianariverjackson5123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Am I weird that I want these types of etiquettes back?

  • @riam3906
    @riam3906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Exchanging letters before an Engagement was also very scandalous

  • @the100yearslatenewsletter3
    @the100yearslatenewsletter3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't expect to learn so much, haha, well done 👍

  • @zchesiq
    @zchesiq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the humor of this channel 💯💯💯

  • @joy5816
    @joy5816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Books and movies always make this era look so desirable but I watched Weird History's videos about hygiene back then and no thanks, I'm thankful for toilet paper and choosing who I marry when I please

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A lot of people don't realize how much of life's comforts were only developed in the last 50-80 years. I saw a 1950s-60s video on the early 1800s not too long ago and even THEY were like "Now THAT'S old fashioned". A 1950s kid would honestly have more in common with an 80s-90s kid than an 1800s or early 1900s one. The world and society changed so much from World War II and other factors.

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's funny that that era seems desirable to you. The fact you were almost completely denied social mobility, and had almost every aspect of your life ruled by arbitrary rules makes that time seem absolutely unbearable to me.

    • @joy5816
      @joy5816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasondashney That was the downfall, but they had the best styles and castles! Lol

    • @md.aquibnazri6866
      @md.aquibnazri6866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol people can still use water . And majority of world still use water which they have been using since thousand of years ... Not to mention , toilet paper may not do the work as good as the water can do

    • @md.aquibnazri6866
      @md.aquibnazri6866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jasondashney our lives are still ruled by arbitrary rules . It's not like u have the "absolute freedom" to do whatever u want to do ... Every society enforces it rules on the people living in it and the freedom which they provide has boundaries decided by what's acceptable/unacceptable to the society

  • @DeadSetOnDestruction
    @DeadSetOnDestruction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I learnt all this from the movie Austenland

  • @anneneville6255
    @anneneville6255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel in some cultures there is still the chaperone tradition. One of my friends is from Afghanistan and officially she couldn’t stay with her fiancé alone until they are married… she was 25!

  • @BBB-rd2qi
    @BBB-rd2qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is hilarious history. Your best one yet. As a long time watcher of Weird History, this is your best one yet!

  • @ModernPlumbingFan
    @ModernPlumbingFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fall asleep to this channel to the soothing vocal lulls of the Black Plague and other weird things all the time! Of course that’s weird but so is weird history!

  • @ccaiside6010
    @ccaiside6010 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish you had talked about the legal side of it all, and about marriage contracts and the marriage "portion."

  • @jenrules
    @jenrules 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lord Marvin of Gaye!! 🎶 I’m dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @datboi988
    @datboi988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Come for the history, stay for the analogies

  • @Mr2greys
    @Mr2greys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The taboo of 1st cousins being married is a tad overblown, inbreeding issues don't show up as much as portrayed, Canada actually legalized it back in the 90s. Now rampant marrying of cousins in the same family for over several generations so you get loopback is a different story.

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In Pakistan a third of all marriages are to relations. It's a little surprising to see this in the modern age when we understand genetics but it is what it is.

    • @maya-cc2sx
      @maya-cc2sx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      where I live religion wise we are not supposed to marry anyone that is related to you under 6 generations, so it does consider 1st cousins as inbreeding

    • @vornamenachnahme
      @vornamenachnahme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In Germany you can marry your family first removed(? is that how you say it?). First cousins could marry or even a niece and an uncle but in practice it seems to happen rarely.

    • @hawkeyeten2450
      @hawkeyeten2450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Heck, although large swaths of America ban it at the moment, cousin marriages were unabashedly happening around World War II (one decorated US soldier publicly kissed his cousin after being honored IIRC). It traditionally WASN'T vilified like today.

  • @btetschner
    @btetschner 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:15 Actually just watched the premiere of the music video "Lifetimes" by Katy Perry on TH-cam.
    Fantastic song and music video!

  • @fckingangryblackwomen
    @fckingangryblackwomen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your series. Big history buff but this era is my fav. Keep it coming!

  • @lbh002
    @lbh002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wasn't really interested in regency England, but I now know more about what I have been watching on Bridgerton. Thx!

    • @SK-ut6tw
      @SK-ut6tw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That show is so historically inaccurate... it's almost tear jerking.

    • @RosesAndIvy
      @RosesAndIvy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SK-ut6tw Tbf it’s not really trying to be historically accurate, it’s pure fantasy

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kinda sad that it didn’t interest you till that show

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      History has so much to offer

    • @susi-emily
      @susi-emily 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the Regency era but can't stand Bridgerton. It's awful.

  • @yoursubconscious
    @yoursubconscious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    could you, if it is worth it, do a video on London Foundling Hospital?

  • @radstorm
    @radstorm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel.. you learn and laugh at times as a bonus :o)

  • @inksu8380
    @inksu8380 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the relieved sigh I let out when they also used Pride and prejudice 1995 clips

  • @angelaferrante7234
    @angelaferrante7234 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really loved this, well done.

  • @sybariticcupboardrat3763
    @sybariticcupboardrat3763 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wonder how many of those unwed pregnancies were the result of sexual assaults. Then victims were legally compelled to identify their attacker. I doubt there was much of an attempt at keeping them safe from retaliation.

  • @TheQuestionmarkstudi
    @TheQuestionmarkstudi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wouldn't mind the kilt part. Quicker access to the goods during the honeymoon;).

  • @andreathomas2099
    @andreathomas2099 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im still dying from lord Marvin of gayeton😂

  • @trudymaenza9672
    @trudymaenza9672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Romantic only in books! My Mom only had to remind me I wasn't Cinderella!

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Suggestion: That time in 1984 when Richard Pryor had his own kids' show "Pryor Place". It was, I believe, one of the last Sid & Marty Kroft Productions television shows.
    This show had a Sesame Street/Wonder Years vibe. Richard Pryor would introduce the episode's plot, which featured a younger version of himself, who, coincidentally, was also named Richard. The show also featured the trademarked Kroft puppets, some of which were sentient bakery goods.
    To top off each episode, R&B legend Ray Parker, Jr. sang the show's theme song.
    Quite a concept, a family friendly Richard Pryor performance.

  • @valeriejean6507
    @valeriejean6507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Albert and Victoria were first cousins.

  • @historyhub5406
    @historyhub5406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a video on the history of emergency services during history

  • @Lost_feline613
    @Lost_feline613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was so entertaining 😂 you’ve got yourself a new subscriber

  • @7ylerD
    @7ylerD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m about 99% sure you could get married in a kilt in Vegas, too.

  • @madicurrier9739
    @madicurrier9739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the copious amounts of joy 🙏😂