So SWEET! It's an amazing time to be alive for keyboard/synth guys like us. In 1980 I was the keyboard player for the Air Force Rock Band out of San Antonio, Texas (Lackland AFB). I have pic of myself from those days on my workstation which I love to show to people. I have a Fender Rhodes (ONE sound), Clavinet (ONE sound), ARP String ensemble (ONE sound with few variations) and an ARP Odyssey (which was monophonic and had no memory to save patches) stacked in front of me. To the side is a Farfisa organ (ONE sound) with a Leslie speaker. ALL of those had heave ATA Anvil cases which made my load in and out backbreaking. AND, we would do 2 shows a day! Now I have over 150 sound libraries (including Arturia with like, 30-something amazing synths, including the CS-80 and more), mutiple orchestra's, guitars, percussion, and on and on. ALL on SSD's that fit in my laptop case. Yes, it's an amazing time to be alive!
I hear you man, and yes, it's funny because there was a time when analog synths were going for a fortune (and most still are), before the VST's came out and I'm SURE there are 'those guys' around who probably crap on VST synths and say they're not as good and what not, but to me, it's like what Jay Leno says about some guys who say 'They don't make cars like they used to', to which his response is 'Yeah, and thank God they don't!'. The fact that you can own all these VST synths for dirt cheap now and that they're as good as they are just totally blows me away. I used to have a Roland Juno 60 in the 80's - it had no memory to store patches (the later model did), and it didn't have midi, not that it mattered because I don't even think midi existed at the time -- I just recorded on my Tascam reel-to-reel, no Mac computer and MOTU Performer software for me until about 1989 or so. So yeah, young people who want to get into this stuff nowadays probably have no idea how lucky they are compared to us back in the supposed 'good 'ol days', but people like us know the TRUE story! Ha ha. Cheers bud -- and keep on Rockin' the Casbah ☺
Thanks for chiming in! I'm really going to date myself here, I had a Roland SH-1000 which even had little "tabs" like they put on organs. But it was actually very versatile. It just so happens that I reorganized some of my libraries on my SSD's. I keep a running Word Doc and Excel SS and realized that I have 146. Yes, I'm a sound hog! That doesn't include Musio (by Cinesamples. I got in early and have the lifetime license. They add new "libraries with the library" at a pretty good pace) There are 91 Musio libraries which would give me 236. I'm not bragging, I'm actually astounded at how inexpensive they are--relatively speaking, so I can't help myself! LOL. Cheers to you too...
Not only was this an incredible review but it also serves as a history lesson to one of the most iconic synths ever created. You have done justice to this plugin more than softube themselves. Pat on the back to you sir 🎹.
Congratulations, this was the best explanation about how to program cs-80. I always struggled to make sound because of the complexity of the beast but you make it so easy. BTW great plugin by softube 🎉
Softube is amazing! Their synth emulations are some of the best on the market. Everything from the sound to the user interface is just as one would expect. Sounds and looks good. Great job on the video Dom! And if Softube sees this - great job as well!
yes, but they dont invent new things or upgrade software instruments and i m not speakting of vintage Emulation of old synth but instruments like heatbeat ....why, why, why ....why ? ...why
@@akigh-fh3hg Nowadays (the digital era of music production) people may not have access to those vintage synths that people loved in the past. Softube is just giving everyone access to those synths & sounds at an affordable price. Also, Softube tends to stick to emulations of analog gear which is why they don't have many new unique synths. However, since these are digital recreations, there's more possibilities for tweaking than one would have in the analog world so that adds a unique touch to these classic synths.
I was sold on Softube after Model 84. I'm hoping Model 81,82, and 83 are coming soon 😁, but only if Softube can do them justice. PS Jupiter 8, Juno 6/60, Jupiter 6
That first horn sound reminded me more of the one Queen used in Flash Gordon. Vangelis was a magician and his synth sounds had such a lightness. They breathed so organically. He was incomparable. :)
My second synth back in 1978 (first was a mini moog) I loved this instrument I had so much fun doing gigs with it I wish they would do a limited hardware run I'd definitely buy one. Cheers!
@@jimbotron70 Ha I didn't mean for anyone to take me literally about the remake I just meant it was a great synth at the time and nostalgia quite often makes the past better than it actually was in some respects the f'ing thing weighed a ton and needed two people to carry it and when you put it in a road case forget it you definitely needed roadies. Loved the sounds though.
Hey Dom…just purchased. I have all the Softtube synths…they’re all fantastic. I had the Juno 106 (2 at one point), and their version is as close as it gets.
This video was worth it for the excellent explanation of the CS-80's idiosyncratic envelopes alone! I owned a CS-80 from 2001-03, sold it because it was so difficult to tune, let alone maintain. Have not been impressed with any of the modern emulations (including Deckards Dream) until now.
I Hear You Now (Jon & Vangelis) is one of my favourite songs - it's just so beautiful. I don't know if Vangelis used a CS-80 or not but the synth sounds are exquisite.
@cnfuzz I read an interview with the guy who used to be Vangelis's assistant. Iirc he said they also cranked up the voltages on the CS80 to make the filters a bit more aggressive.
I don't know why but La Petite Fille de la Mer was one of my first songs. True, I was in love with this melody. I was like seven or eight years old. Many years later, I discovered it's title with Vangelis himself, the great maestro, of course. It was a great moment!
Absolutely stunning. Softube's synths are really out of this world. Better than the original hardware if you ask me. The Juno emulation is also unbelievable!
Dom, I always enjoy your demos and commentary. Your comment about the envelope reminded me of my Korg Poly-800 - In my 80s rock band, it was my long-sought upgrade from the Realistic "Elton John" micro-Moog. The envelopes each had 6 stages: Attack, Decay, Break Point, Slope, Sustain & Release. With lots of time and experimentation, I could get a lot of fairly intricate sounds out of that very inexpensive synth.
I loved the CS80 I had years ago.. sadly I had to pass it on due to it being to heavy on my system back then.. but MAN oh man did I love it. thanks for the reminder I need this back in my life
To answer everybody's question, it's not a monitor, it's an insert. It covers his gears in a way that it's not ergonomic at all. But it inspires every one to purchase a 42/48 inch TV as a monitor.
Vangelis was (and always will be) "The" synth wizard. 🙏 I believe I know very well all of his albums, since I listened to all of them many times, and a few days ago, the "Direct" album was on heavy rotation in my house (this album has no overdubs, and it's very interesting how it was performed). I don't know if there's any album where Vangelis _didn't_ use the CS-80, even if for brief moments, even in his latest albums. The CS-80 became part of Vangelis sound signature. That being said, most TOTL Yamaha synths usually have these iconic sounds, which are not that hard to replicate for quite some time. 😉 Having the ability to have an emulation of the CS-80 to play with is interesting, but in all fairness, I don't know if it is the most rewarding synth experience. Just like many synths from the past, it was amazing at producing some specific sounds (the most recognizable have an additional external reverb, of course), but not necessarily great at anything else. That's also part of the beauty of vintage synths (even digital and romplers), because they used to be different due to their technical inability to do "better". I own the Motif-ES rack and the MODX 8+, and they easily blow any vintage synth (or romoler) out of the water at playing acoustic piano, acoustic guitars and many other real instruments. But the "acoustic" piano and some organ sounds from the Korg M1/Roland D50 (just to name a few sounds and synths) became iconic instruments by themselves, since those sounds didn't exist before, and they were present in many songs that could easily be recorded on real pianos by those artists... ...but they wouldn't sound remotely similar! 🙂 Coming back from an age where I couldn't afford a (then new) DX-7, and being lucky to own an YS-200 (nothing to write home about) with an RX-7, I can't certainly complaint about all the insanely good sounds that I have at my disposal (and certainly not having Cubase any many vst libraries). But I often feel a bit paralyzed by the insane amount of great sounds that I have at my disposal, and at the same time, noticing that it becomes harder and harder to be amazed by new sounds. I wrote several songs that started by playing some notes on a sound that felt really good, often when I wasn't even trying to write anything at all. Unlike any acoustic instrument, the synthesizer is supposed to create sounds that didn't exist before, and many gurus at the most well known synth brands were amazing at creating incredible and inspiring sounds, even if the user could tweak them. Coming back to the CS-80 (which comes from an era where the end user would have to create his own sounds), I believe that having these emulations is great, but I guess that most users will end up using some presets, namely those made and used by famous artists, since they also emulate all the sonic limits that were present in the original hardware. After all these decades and so many insanely good artists/sound designers that made music with the CS-80, I honestly doubt that anyone can accomplish something new and better, but I can be wrong, and I always have my ears open to that. 🙂
Nice sounds and an essential poly synth VSTi. If you are into Softube, it’s a no brainer. Arturia CS 80 V nails the full functionality and is great with our Hydrasynth Deluxe. I imagine this would be similar here. CS envelopes are the bomb.
my dad still own his CS80, but havent used in over a decade, he won´t let me use either! i am just waiting for his time to come! this will be the first thing I will start using
I really love the bit at the end! Also, nice to see a demo from someone who knows how to program it. I have two of the other emulations: Cherry Audio’s GX-80 and Arturia’s CS-80 V, both of which have effects, filters, or other features that extend beyond those of the original gear. Until your video, I wasn’t that impressed with the CS-80 by itself.
I have the Arturia CS80 Version and never work with it. You're right, it killed me. I hope to have time to deal with it in more detail when I retire from my “real” job in a few months. 🤗
Very nice! That is a great rendition of that track from Apocalypse des Animaux, however, I believe he was actually using a Rhodes for that high pitched sound. (Wish you would've tried the Guitar 1 and 2 since that was such an iconic sound for ol' Mr. V)
I was actually hoping this was the next one softube was making, wanted a good emulation since playing around with the arturia version. Hope they make arp 2600 next, softube softsynths are the only ones I'm still buying 👍
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing! It looks like the perfect instrument to complement the new Kontrol S88 Mk3. Btw, how does the key bed action. Of the Mk3 compare to Montage m8x?
It's pretty amazing. The new firmware (for the S88 MK3) allows you to also fine-tune the Polyphonic aftertouch and even add delay so it doesn't kick in straight away. The Montage M8X still has the best keybed for my taste though :)
Guys you have to check out Chariots Of Fire by Julian Croot. He used the Arturia version of the CS80 and it sounds really close to Vangelis. Is this Softtube version better than Arturia?
This isn't a CS-80 emulation. It is a dual panel CS-60 and the CS-60 didn't have the Chorus or tremolo that the CS-80 had. Instead they drench the sounds in a great big reverb for the Model 77. To me this is like a Juno-106 without its fantastic Chorus. Not a Juno 106. It gets aways with this with its use of spread and the big great sounding reverb... I would bet that if you put the other emulations (like the Arturia) through a great reverb (not some inbuilt) you would get a better result for some of the sounds.
@@theboofin Yes, REALLY! It is no less than a two layer CS-60 with some extras like the reverb and stereo spread and unison. It is NOT a CS-80 since it lacks both the chorus and the tremolo. It may sound very authentic to a CS-80 that has these two things de-activated....(some of the classic sounds do have that).
Check out how Vangelis manages the envelopes and ring modulation on Pinta, Nina, Santa Maria from around 7m:50s into the song... you can only do this when you have perfect manual control over the knobs. It would be interesting to see how close one can come to this using the Softube plugin. Anyway, I don't want to sound like Vangelis which is why I prefer to stay away from CS80-emulations. For me it's not a synth, it is Vangelis...
I experimented with the demo and it sounds brighter and louder than the Memorymoon ME80, maybe a bit more modern sounding? It's neat, though since I already got an emulation, might wait till the price drops on this one to justify another CS-80 emulation. Sounds good though!
The most innovative and creative use by far of a CS-80 ever was by Eddie Jobson in the band UK (album title "UK", 1978). Far beyond anything being shown here (no offense, guy). If any CS-80 enthusiasts don't know that music, definitely seek it out.
Jobson did some good things with the CS-80 in the 3 UK albums and the "A" LP with Jethro Tull... but let's be serious, Vangelis was probably the only player who spent the time required to master properly this instrument.
Thank you very much for the demonstration and the review of the CS80, it was really very interesting, I think that with a keyboard like the Expressive E Osmose it must be really gorgeous in terms of expressiveness. I'm literally a fan of your preset at 3:11, is it possible to get it somewhere? Thank you in advance. Cheers from France 🇫🇷
I love synthesizers and synthesizer history. The CS-80 is like the Porsche of classic -cars- synths. That being said, I would want a higher end MIDI controller and especially with aftertouch in order to make the experience more immersive in regards to playing the OG instrument instead of merely a marionette in the DAW-box. Out of healthy curiosity -- what MIDI controller would you recommend for the task? Someone in the comments already suggested the Hydrasynth (not a MIDI controller, but makes sense) -- interesting take!
A similar to what he uses here. Native Instruments Komplete control S61 mark 3. That has polyphonic aftertouch too and loads of great controller options and good integration with NI plus many other VST-i brands...
@@brianbergmusic5288 I had a CS80 years back. The MPE Roli Seaboard surpasses the CS80 and Hydrasynth for expression. And soon the Roli Airwave will be available to further enhance your playing.
Is the HP filter controlled by the filter envelope or is it static? How do we control which filter (the HP or the LP) the filter envelope controls? Thanks for this great presentation.
I suppose you know also the arturia v collection. It contains an other vst of the cs80. What do you think to compare them ? Your version seems easier to Programm, but what's about the sound. Which one provide sound most like from the real Yamaha CS80 ?
I’m still not quite convinced with the 77 yet. The CS80v seems closer to the real thing so far. That said, Strobe 2 can get even closer but only in certain areas. Straight out of the box as it were the 77 sounds like it was modelled on a CS80 that was not quite calibrated right, it shows up mostly on the guitar 1 and 2 having the IA amount in the filter section too fast and Brass 1 and 2 global brightness is too open. But as time goes by I am working on patches for it that should be much much closer to the real girl.
Wouldn't it make more sense to control to from your Montage M8x with poly aftertouch and pair with the M8x ANX engine including the CS80 patches YOU created?
Your greatest ending ever. 👍
So SWEET! It's an amazing time to be alive for keyboard/synth guys like us. In 1980 I was the keyboard player for the Air Force Rock Band out of San Antonio, Texas (Lackland AFB). I have pic of myself from those days on my workstation which I love to show to people. I have a Fender Rhodes (ONE sound), Clavinet (ONE sound), ARP String ensemble (ONE sound with few variations) and an ARP Odyssey (which was monophonic and had no memory to save patches) stacked in front of me. To the side is a Farfisa organ (ONE sound) with a Leslie speaker. ALL of those had heave ATA Anvil cases which made my load in and out backbreaking. AND, we would do 2 shows a day! Now I have over 150 sound libraries (including Arturia with like, 30-something amazing synths, including the CS-80 and more), mutiple orchestra's, guitars, percussion, and on and on. ALL on SSD's that fit in my laptop case. Yes, it's an amazing time to be alive!
I hear you man, and yes, it's funny because there was a time when analog synths were going for a fortune (and most still are), before the VST's came out and I'm SURE there are 'those guys' around who probably crap on VST synths and say they're not as good and what not, but to me, it's like what Jay Leno says about some guys who say 'They don't make cars like they used to', to which his response is 'Yeah, and thank God they don't!'. The fact that you can own all these VST synths for dirt cheap now and that they're as good as they are just totally blows me away. I used to have a Roland Juno 60 in the 80's - it had no memory to store patches (the later model did), and it didn't have midi, not that it mattered because I don't even think midi existed at the time -- I just recorded on my Tascam reel-to-reel, no Mac computer and MOTU Performer software for me until about 1989 or so. So yeah, young people who want to get into this stuff nowadays probably have no idea how lucky they are compared to us back in the supposed 'good 'ol days', but people like us know the TRUE story! Ha ha. Cheers bud -- and keep on Rockin' the Casbah ☺
Thanks for chiming in! I'm really going to date myself here, I had a Roland SH-1000 which even had little "tabs" like they put on organs. But it was actually very versatile.
It just so happens that I reorganized some of my libraries on my SSD's. I keep a running Word Doc and Excel SS and realized that I have 146. Yes, I'm a sound hog! That doesn't include Musio (by Cinesamples. I got in early and have the lifetime license. They add new "libraries with the library" at a pretty good pace) There are 91 Musio libraries which would give me 236. I'm not bragging, I'm actually astounded at how inexpensive they are--relatively speaking, so I can't help myself! LOL. Cheers to you too...
Not only was this an incredible review but it also serves as a history lesson to one of the most iconic synths ever created. You have done justice to this plugin more than softube themselves. Pat on the back to you sir 🎹.
Thank you for the kind words ❤
That was "La Petite Fille de la mer" such a lovely song.
Considering he was probably using a Rhodes there
A classic.
100% I love it
Yes, it was this one ! But he played other things also from Vangelis like 1492.
god bless you
Congratulations, this was the best explanation about how to program cs-80. I always struggled to make sound because of the complexity of the beast but you make it so easy. BTW great plugin by softube 🎉
Wow that last part is amazing 🤩🤩🤩
you definitively should be paid by Softube .
this is the clearer/better video I watched about the Model 77. Thanks a lot for creating it for us
Softube is amazing! Their synth emulations are some of the best on the market. Everything from the sound to the user interface is just as one would expect. Sounds and looks good. Great job on the video Dom! And if Softube sees this - great job as well!
yes, but they dont invent new things or upgrade software instruments and i m not speakting of vintage Emulation of old synth but instruments like heatbeat ....why, why, why ....why ? ...why
this is why they are now doing only vintage stuff
@@akigh-fh3hg Nowadays (the digital era of music production) people may not have access to those vintage synths that people loved in the past. Softube is just giving everyone access to those synths & sounds at an affordable price. Also, Softube tends to stick to emulations of analog gear which is why they don't have many new unique synths. However, since these are digital recreations, there's more possibilities for tweaking than one would have in the analog world so that adds a unique touch to these classic synths.
I was sold on Softube after Model 84.
I'm hoping Model 81,82, and 83 are coming soon 😁, but only if Softube can do them justice.
PS Jupiter 8, Juno 6/60, Jupiter 6
The first synthesizer I ever bought was a CS80. It was used and I think I paid $400 for it and I loved that thing!
lol
Me thinks Dom fell in love all over again..Beautiful sounds xx
Great sound! Love the CS-80, and late Vangelis ❤️❤️
A good demo as well, Dom!
Dom, great job. You showed and explained. And most of us now know why CS80 was so appreciated. Thanks a lot!
When you played "La Petite Fille de la Mer" i felt my eyes fill up with tears. It instantly took me back to my childhood. Thank you, sir!
❤️❤️❤️
That first horn sound... It just made me tear up. It's so lush and wonderful...
this thing was an instant buy, not regretting it
yep, the CS-80 is a beast Dom, i have the Arturia emulation, it's just like the real thing minus the cost and the weight 😁
Amazing playing and descriptions as always Dom! Killer work 💥
Thank you Todd ❤❤❤
Absolutely love the CS 80 V4 but Sooo hard to get it's handle .. great vid 🤛 got loads of sounds, your instruction won't be aced .. respect Dom !
Wait a minute! Dom's monitor isn't that big. Nice overlay. Now I really need this synth....thanks to this great tutorial.
That first horn sound reminded me more of the one Queen used in Flash Gordon. Vangelis was a magician and his synth sounds had such a lightness. They breathed so organically. He was incomparable. :)
My second synth back in 1978 (first was a mini moog) I loved this instrument I had so much fun doing gigs with it I wish they would do a limited hardware run I'd definitely buy one. Cheers!
I wish it got a proper, non-limited run
this thing still has a place today and deserves a full production run
@@NoeticConcordance-149 Don't hold your breath...
@@jimbotron70 Ha I didn't mean for anyone to take me literally about the remake I just meant it was a great synth at the time and nostalgia quite often makes the past better than it actually was in some respects the f'ing thing weighed a ton and needed two people to carry it and when you put it in a road case forget it you definitely needed roadies. Loved the sounds though.
Hey Dom…just purchased. I have all the Softtube synths…they’re all fantastic. I had the Juno 106 (2 at one point), and their version is as close as it gets.
Way too cool, Thanks, Dom !
This video was worth it for the excellent explanation of the CS-80's idiosyncratic envelopes alone! I owned a CS-80 from 2001-03, sold it because it was so difficult to tune, let alone maintain. Have not been impressed with any of the modern emulations (including Deckards Dream) until now.
Lucky U! ... should have held on to it = ultimate pension pot! 😂🤑
Awesome vid! Thanks so much for taking the time to make this. I ended up grabbing the model 77 right after. Cheers!
Awesome you control...please make a Vangelis Library with Model 77
I Hear You Now (Jon & Vangelis) is one of my favourite songs - it's just so beautiful. I don't know if Vangelis used a CS-80 or not but the synth sounds are exquisite.
There are CS80 sounds in that song, without a doubt.
@@tonyrapa-tonyrapa Vangelis used a CS-80 on his arguably most famous soundtrack, Bladerunner
@@tonyrapa-tonyrapa People forget he used Roland system 100 a lot with a 9 volt battery on it's filter input to make it go extra bright.
@cnfuzz I read an interview with the guy who used to be Vangelis's assistant. Iirc he said they also cranked up the voltages on the CS80 to make the filters a bit more aggressive.
I don't know why but La Petite Fille de la Mer was one of my first songs. True, I was in love with this melody. I was like seven or eight years old. Many years later, I discovered it's title with Vangelis himself, the great maestro, of course. It was a great moment!
I love vintage 🎹
The final was celestial!!!
You played ' 1492 Conquest of Paradise ' by Vangelis very nice !
By the way my father learned sound design with Vangelis 60 years ago.
One of your best videos! Awesome sounding synth. I will surely buy this in the coming days.
Mind blowing! 👏👏👏
Absolutely stunning. Softube's synths are really out of this world. Better than the original hardware if you ask me. The Juno emulation is also unbelievable!
That Ring Modulator! Beauborg! LOL Amazing. Damn, I need Model 77 :D
Great review thanks Dom!
I learned to program a Cs80. Thanks haha
(17:25) That alone gets a 👍and a comment. 😁
Keep up the great content, Dom! 👍
Love it, what a sound, thank you for this video.
Charriots of Fire was a song of the human soul beyoned any hardwear or softwear synth ,,,I Loved that song still do ..
great demo. Really shows off the emulation.
Hi Dom, great video, as always…how would you compare this implementation of the CS-80 against the Arturia CS-80? Any thoughts?
Excellent review and production.
Amazing 🔥
Dom, I always enjoy your demos and commentary. Your comment about the envelope reminded me of my Korg Poly-800 - In my 80s rock band, it was my long-sought upgrade from the Realistic "Elton John" micro-Moog. The envelopes each had 6 stages: Attack, Decay, Break Point, Slope, Sustain & Release. With lots of time and experimentation, I could get a lot of fairly intricate sounds out of that very inexpensive synth.
Great❤❤❤❤ my steinberg friend!!!
great channel! Awesome playing.
Great explanation
La petite fille de la mer
I always thought it was a Rhodes but something was not quite right about that
Thank you Dom
The best tutorial EVER
I loved the CS80 I had years ago.. sadly I had to pass it on due to it being to heavy on my system back then.. but MAN oh man did I love it. thanks for the reminder I need this back in my life
You are blessed for owning one- it's the ONE synth I would love to own but maintaining it alone is a task!
@@DomSigalas that was the issue!
I did not have the money to keep it maintained! hence it being to heavy on my system!
this plugin tho... OMG
- Beautiful.
Awesomeee
Love that setup
To answer everybody's question, it's not a monitor, it's an insert. It covers his gears in a way that it's not ergonomic at all. But it inspires every one to purchase a 42/48 inch TV as a monitor.
Sounds great .. Hydrasynth is the perfect master keyboard for CS 80 emus .. both poly aftertouch and touch strip 🙂
I have a Hydrasynth Deluxe as well as 2 CS80 emus, and I can confirm!
I was thinking the same thing
agree! hydrasynth deluxe user with GS80
If I'm not mistaken, the strip on the hydrasynth cannot be used on external instruments. Only on the Hydrasynth itself.
@@CorryDMGI need to be sure about that... Planning to buy Hydrasynth deluxe. Can some real owner give us some info?
Vangelis was (and always will be) "The" synth wizard. 🙏
I believe I know very well all of his albums, since I listened to all of them many times, and a few days ago, the "Direct" album was on heavy rotation in my house (this album has no overdubs, and it's very interesting how it was performed).
I don't know if there's any album where Vangelis _didn't_ use the CS-80, even if for brief moments, even in his latest albums.
The CS-80 became part of Vangelis sound signature.
That being said, most TOTL Yamaha synths usually have these iconic sounds, which are not that hard to replicate for quite some time. 😉
Having the ability to have an emulation of the CS-80 to play with is interesting, but in all fairness, I don't know if it is the most rewarding synth experience.
Just like many synths from the past, it was amazing at producing some specific sounds (the most recognizable have an additional external reverb, of course), but not necessarily great at anything else.
That's also part of the beauty of vintage synths (even digital and romplers), because they used to be different due to their technical inability to do "better".
I own the Motif-ES rack and the MODX 8+, and they easily blow any vintage synth (or romoler) out of the water at playing acoustic piano, acoustic guitars and many other real instruments.
But the "acoustic" piano and some organ sounds from the Korg M1/Roland D50 (just to name a few sounds and synths) became iconic instruments by themselves, since those sounds didn't exist before, and they were present in many songs that could easily be recorded on real pianos by those artists...
...but they wouldn't sound remotely similar! 🙂
Coming back from an age where I couldn't afford a (then new) DX-7, and being lucky to own an YS-200 (nothing to write home about) with an RX-7, I can't certainly complaint about all the insanely good sounds that I have at my disposal (and certainly not having Cubase any many vst libraries).
But I often feel a bit paralyzed by the insane amount of great sounds that I have at my disposal, and at the same time, noticing that it becomes harder and harder to be amazed by new sounds.
I wrote several songs that started by playing some notes on a sound that felt really good, often when I wasn't even trying to write anything at all.
Unlike any acoustic instrument, the synthesizer is supposed to create sounds that didn't exist before, and many gurus at the most well known synth brands were amazing at creating incredible and inspiring sounds, even if the user could tweak them.
Coming back to the CS-80 (which comes from an era where the end user would have to create his own sounds), I believe that having these emulations is great, but I guess that most users will end up using some presets, namely those made and used by famous artists, since they also emulate all the sonic limits that were present in the original hardware.
After all these decades and so many insanely good artists/sound designers that made music with the CS-80, I honestly doubt that anyone can accomplish something new and better, but I can be wrong, and I always have my ears open to that. 🙂
Nice sounds and an essential poly synth VSTi. If you are into Softube, it’s a no brainer. Arturia CS 80 V nails the full functionality and is great with our Hydrasynth Deluxe. I imagine this would be similar here. CS envelopes are the bomb.
5:55 yeeehhhhhh lolz smile at 5:58 cracking up
If I didn't have the m8x that would be a no brainer purchase. I still might get it at some point. Great plugin by the looks of it.
As a bassist I used to play an SH101, now and then, also a Juno 6 & DX7.
my dad still own his CS80, but havent used in over a decade, he won´t let me use either! i am just waiting for his time to come! this will be the first thing I will start using
I have the arturia and cherry versions and they don’t hold a candle to softubes🔊✨✨✨ great vid
I would buy it if it came with Vangelis patches designed by you. Awesome Video, thank you.
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I really love the bit at the end! Also, nice to see a demo from someone who knows how to program it. I have two of the other emulations: Cherry Audio’s GX-80 and Arturia’s CS-80 V, both of which have effects, filters, or other features that extend beyond those of the original gear. Until your video, I wasn’t that impressed with the CS-80 by itself.
i used to own a cs50 great video Dom will give this a try I do have the Arturia one so will good to see how they compare
WONDERFUL VIDEO .
I have the Arturia CS80 Version and never work with it. You're right, it killed me. I hope to have time to deal with it in more detail when I retire from my “real” job in a few months. 🤗
sounds great
Very nice! That is a great rendition of that track from Apocalypse des Animaux, however, I believe he was actually using a Rhodes for that high pitched sound. (Wish you would've tried the Guitar 1 and 2 since that was such an iconic sound for ol' Mr. V)
For me this is the best CS 80 Emulation 👌
I was actually hoping this was the next one softube was making, wanted a good emulation since playing around with the arturia version. Hope they make arp 2600 next, softube softsynths are the only ones I'm still buying 👍
Awesomeness
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing!
It looks like the perfect instrument to complement the new Kontrol S88 Mk3. Btw, how does the key bed action. Of the Mk3 compare to Montage m8x?
It's pretty amazing. The new firmware (for the S88 MK3) allows you to also fine-tune the Polyphonic aftertouch and even add delay so it doesn't kick in straight away. The Montage M8X still has the best keybed for my taste though :)
Sounds good
Nice 'god light' effect
Guys you have to check out Chariots Of Fire by Julian Croot. He used the Arturia version of the CS80 and it sounds really close to Vangelis.
Is this Softtube version better than Arturia?
@@oldendays9554 that's what I was asking myself ...
This isn't a CS-80 emulation. It is a dual panel CS-60 and the CS-60 didn't have the Chorus or tremolo that the CS-80 had. Instead they drench the sounds in a great big reverb for the Model 77.
To me this is like a Juno-106 without its fantastic Chorus. Not a Juno 106.
It gets aways with this with its use of spread and the big great sounding reverb...
I would bet that if you put the other emulations (like the Arturia) through a great reverb (not some inbuilt) you would get a better result for some of the sounds.
@@Magnus_Loov Yeah, not really lol....
@@theboofin Yes, REALLY! It is no less than a two layer CS-60 with some extras like the reverb and stereo spread and unison.
It is NOT a CS-80 since it lacks both the chorus and the tremolo.
It may sound very authentic to a CS-80 that has these two things de-activated....(some of the classic sounds do have that).
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Check out how Vangelis manages the envelopes and ring modulation on Pinta, Nina, Santa Maria from around 7m:50s into the song... you can only do this when you have perfect manual control over the knobs. It would be interesting to see how close one can come to this using the Softube plugin.
Anyway, I don't want to sound like Vangelis which is why I prefer to stay away from CS80-emulations. For me it's not a synth, it is Vangelis...
Cool Dude
Thank you for your video and time. Very good synth.
That huge screen is a TV or any display from any brand?
I experimented with the demo and it sounds brighter and louder than the Memorymoon ME80, maybe a bit more modern sounding? It's neat, though since I already got an emulation, might wait till the price drops on this one to justify another CS-80 emulation. Sounds good though!
The most innovative and creative use by far of a CS-80 ever was by Eddie Jobson in the band UK (album title "UK", 1978). Far beyond anything being shown here (no offense, guy). If any CS-80 enthusiasts don't know that music, definitely seek it out.
Jobson did some good things with the CS-80 in the 3 UK albums and the "A" LP with Jethro Tull... but let's be serious, Vangelis was probably the only player who spent the time required to master properly this instrument.
Luv luv luv it, I want one but guess it costs a fortune as al excuisit things do
響きがとても音楽的に感じられる
Thank you very much for the demonstration and the review of the CS80, it was really very interesting, I think that with a keyboard like the Expressive E Osmose it must be really gorgeous in terms of expressiveness.
I'm literally a fan of your preset at 3:11, is it possible to get it somewhere? Thank you in advance.
Cheers from France 🇫🇷
Judging by the sudden surge in reviews, the devs handed out a bunch of free licences
I love synthesizers and synthesizer history. The CS-80 is like the Porsche of classic -cars- synths. That being said, I would want a higher end MIDI controller and especially with aftertouch in order to make the experience more immersive in regards to playing the OG instrument instead of merely a marionette in the DAW-box. Out of healthy curiosity -- what MIDI controller would you recommend for the task?
Someone in the comments already suggested the Hydrasynth (not a MIDI controller, but makes sense) -- interesting take!
A similar to what he uses here. Native Instruments Komplete control S61 mark 3. That has polyphonic aftertouch too and loads of great controller options and good integration with NI plus many other VST-i brands...
@@brianbergmusic5288 I had a CS80 years back. The MPE Roli Seaboard surpasses the CS80 and Hydrasynth for expression. And soon the Roli Airwave will be available to further enhance your playing.
It would be cool if his monitor was a touch screen and he could manipulate multiple features at the same time with both hands for faster setup/tuning.
Hello, Dom! What do you think about Arturia's emulation of CS-80? Especially compared to Softube.
Lovely
Is the HP filter controlled by the filter envelope or is it static? How do we control which filter (the HP or the LP) the filter envelope controls? Thanks for this great presentation.
Es hermoso tremendo teclado
I suppose you know also the arturia v collection. It contains an other vst of the cs80. What do you think to compare them ? Your version seems easier to Programm, but what's about the sound. Which one provide sound most like from the real Yamaha CS80 ?
Good sounding VST! Do you think it sounds different from the Arturia one?
nice sounds. btw. what video camera are you using for recording videos ?
I already have 2 VSTi replicas of the mighty CS80. I guess now I'm going to have another one. 😀 Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
I’m still not quite convinced with the 77 yet. The CS80v seems closer to the real thing so far. That said, Strobe 2 can get even closer but only in certain areas. Straight out of the box as it were the 77 sounds like it was modelled on a CS80 that was not quite calibrated right, it shows up mostly on the guitar 1 and 2 having the IA amount in the filter section too fast and Brass 1 and 2 global brightness is too open. But as time goes by I am working on patches for it that should be much much closer to the real girl.
Wouldn't it make more sense to control to from your Montage M8x with poly aftertouch and pair with the M8x ANX engine including the CS80 patches YOU created?
Brah ? It sounds Amazing !??!?! Almost no difference to teh hardware no ? Creepy good the SOFTUBE stuff