Here’s how we choose new street tree locations!
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- Here’s how we got about selecting the right tree for street tree planting in a small city. There are many factors to consider when choosing the right tree: if it’s native or not, space underground and above ground, tree pit size, utilities, proximity to houses or buildings, heat tolerance, sun exposure, pollution tolerance, and much more.
In my opinion, Brandywine Urban Forest, who I work for, is doing it right - planting eastern-US-native species nearly 100% of the time, and prioritizing the large-maturing ecological powerhouse trees like native oaks. Working with them on these projects has been refreshing and encouraging! Check out their page for more info on urban forestry!
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Big street trees SHOULD be here. Without them we have more flooding and less life
... I'm sorry, there are people who don't like tall urban trees?
I think people are irrationally afraid of their cars being crushed during storms
I live in the country and one of my neighbors HATES trees. Has them all cut down except on the edges of his property line.
@@akamiddlechild People are really like this, they move out to the forest and then realize it's a liability and end up clearing an open field instead...
Unfortunately there are lots of them! People don't like cleaning up after trees, don't want the trees to shade out their precious turf lawns, or are irrationally afraid of them.
Yup, people will have trees in their yard and complain about leaves dropping
Don't gum trees have roots that travel a long distance? Think roots pushing up is a serious consideration. Would also like to see bioswales instead of ground level plantings like you're doing. Bioswales add extra benefit that reduces tree maintenance as well as reduce general infrastructure costs.
Who the hell isn’t a fan of street trees?! They literally make any place look so much nicer, allow for shade, and curb the heat island effect.
Look at any neighborhood that has mature trees in the yards and around the roads, you’re looking at multi thousand dollar homes. Now look at neighborhoods with no trees, not even near as close.
Who the hell actually doesn’t like large street trees?! WHO?!
Sadly a good portion of folks around here either:
1. Don't want any tree at all because it's too much for them to clean up (lazy excuse), because they love their turf lawns too much, or because they're afraid of trees falling. Or,
2. They want a small-maturing, flowering, pretty tree like an eastern redbud, flowering dogwood, or Japanese maple. Many of these folks don't see the value of trees beyond how pretty it may be to the human eye.
It's quite unfortunate! While I was marking these trees, a number of folks came out and sort of rudely told me to go away because they don't want a tree here.
@@Andrew_the_Arborist Do they actually have any recourse to protest? It's city land I'm assuming, so they'd have to go to whatever planning board to explain why they don't want a goddamn tree in front of their house?
And sorry you had to bear the brunt of that.
@@abydosianchulac2 We technically could go and plant a tree in their pit because the city does own that right-of-way, but generally the city doesn't want to make it a contentious issue. I feel like folks should be happy to get a tree in their empty pit or strip, but it's surprisingly uncommon around here lol.
My grandmother didn't want a tree in front of her house, many many years ago. She didn't want to clean up around it and was afraid of something falling on her car- but she also did not trust the people picking trees to pick good ones! This was in the 50s, and she had seen a lot of bad trees in the area. I like to think we've gotten better at it over time, as this video speaks on, but this channel also extensively talks about poor tree choices in the past. I think we can understand how people have been burned.
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That's where she could do research and suggest a tree that's compatible with her goals. A tree I suggest is a honey locust. It produces edible beans (must be cooked), light shade and small leaves, as well as fix nitrogen.
What kind of monster doesn't like street trees?
Anyone that wants to be able to park
Man, that sounds like a great job.
I'm so glad to see more native trees being used this way. Well done!
Hip hip hurray 🎉🎉🎉
We need a million more of you working for every town. Thank you so much for doing this for your community!! ❤
That’s an awesome job to have. Entire generations of people will live out their lives walking underneath, driving past, and looking out their windows at the trees that you choose to plant. You’re doing the big work.
Thanks so much. I enjoy it ❤️🌳
A couple months ago I told you that in the Mt. Vernon neighborhood of Baltimore I noticed signs in old tree plots that said a tree will be planted here soon and I thought you like to know that they all have new trees in them now. It's nice to see.
That's terrific! Hopefully they put some good ones in there :)
Why did people of the past who did their job choose trees that were not native, smelled bad, or were not beneficial to the neighborhood? WHY NO FRUIT TREES?
For the stupid aesthetics but thankfully that’s been changing in some places thanks to conservationists and biologists
@@souljahaden6184 Oh good! Nothing bothers me more when you see trees that don't belong, cause trouble to the neighbor like shed badly or just smell horrible.
So many challenges of planting trees. Along corridors there are never any neighbors to water them after planing. Especially if there are large setbacks. Grates in tree over never get cut to choke off the tree. Emerald ash bore has turned my city from a jungle to the Sahara. Sidewalk repair is considered the proper owners responsibility except if it’s a tree then you call and the city fights you on it. It’s a struggle at every turn for trees, departments, and residents. Keep up the good work.
What would be smart is to to do bioswales to assist in watering. It would reduce flooding and ground subsidence effects.
Thank you so much for planting native.
Large trees provide shade for parking and comfortable places to walk . Also keep heating and cooling costs down for residents. They provide places for wildlife which give us hours of viewing from the shade they share.
How do prevent the roots from lifting underneath concrete?
You can't really prevent it, but we try to only plant big trees where there's enough space for the tree's large structural roots and trunk flare. If they lift the sidewalk eventually, it can be fixed without cutting roots.
@@Andrew_the_Arborist thank you for answering I really appreciate you sharing this information!
SOIL VOLUME! Thank god an urban forester who talks about it in a video. Developers suck and rarely create adequate soil volume for the trees they plant.
In my neighbourhood up here in Canada there are large trees I love to walk under during summer as they give so much needed shade when we have heat waves and in the park near me sadly there aren’t many big trees so there’s barely any shade
How do you know if the space is large enough for the tree roots? Or do the roots spread out parallel to the sidewalk instead of growing under them? Is that a thing
PLEASE move to portland. Theyre planting maple trees under power lines, and not on the other side of the street 😭
I do wish the city or landowners would keep up better with the sidewalk repairs - I think the number of lifted sidewalks here in west Philly can really give a bad impression for the big sidewalk trees. (Are the old London plane trees more likely to do that?) I love the big trees here but also my partner ended up in the ER a few weeks back after tripping on one of those “tented” sidewalks.
A bunch of trees do. It's better to pick trees with politer roots than to assume homeowners and the city will get it right.
A stitch in time saves nine.
People who don't want trees in their cities don't seem to understand that it would cool off the scorching temps. I work in a parkinglot and i want so many more fucking trees. We only have a couple 12' trees that are not very healthy and its so fucking hot
Learn to propagate and grow some your self while you’re out there. Pick a native key stone species that fits the size requirements where you would ideally put it. It’s kinda a fun project to learn how to propogate plants and trees for free. Maybe a $5 bottle of rooting hormone but for most part it’s cheap. And or free.
With oak wilt and bacterial leaf scorch ravaging the Philly suburbs how do you see the long term prospects of oaks here in the mid Atlantic?
Oak wilt hasn't yet been confirmed in our area, thankfully. As of now, it remains west of the Susquehanna. There were a couple of false positives in the last year or two that were overturned by state scientists. As for BLS, we tend to plant more oaks within the white oak group (bur oak, white oak, swamp white oak) than red oaks because the white oaks are less susceptible. We still do plant a good amount of willow oak and shingle oak, though. My experience with BLS is that it really only is an issue for trees that are planted outside their ideal conditions.
For example, Pin oaks (Q. palustris) were abundantly planted along our streets and in the landscape several decades ago, regardless of their preference for moist, acidic, lowland soils. When pin oak is planted in dry, upland, or alkaline sites, it may grow fine for a while, but eventually the stress catches up with it and that's when BLS begins to take over. For susceptible red oaks, if you can plant them in their ideal locations or soil types and maintain a mostly healthy plant, it will be able to fight off BLS for much longer. For example, pin oaks in their natural environment in lowland swamps or along streams very rarely succumb to BLS.
@@Andrew_the_Arborist this is so helpful and interesting, and helps me better understand what's going on in our suburb. I'd kill to get your take on my town's tres and what I should do with my trees in particular. I love your content
@@JonSteitzer Thanks a lot! :)
What a great job you have 💪🌎
gods work
NYC HERE, CITY PLANTED GINKOS ALONG AVE.
THE ONES WITH STINKY BLOOMS, STORE
OWNERS ROMOVED SAME UNDER COVER
OF DARKNESS, REPLACED WITH CRABAPPLES.
HA! HA!
NYC HERE, CITY PLANTED GINKOS ALONG AVE.
THE ONES WITH STINKY BLOOMS, STORE
OWNERS ROMOVED SAME UNDER COVER
OF DARKNESS, REPLACED WITH CRABAPPLES.
HA! HA!
NYC HERE, CITY PLANTED GINKOS ALONG AVE.
THE ONES WITH STINKY BLOOMS, STORE
OWNERS ROMOVED SAME UNDER COVER
OF DARKNESS, REPLACED WITH CRABAPPLES.
HA! HA!
I'm glad you are making good choices. I remember visiting Detroit one time and seeing the crazy number of Sycamore trees planted on city streets. Maybe in 1950 people thought it was a nice tree to go there, but sixty years later when I was there.... them suckers were really big!
Genuine question, from an obvious amateur....wouldn't evergreens be best in most situations? I say this, as they require much less energy usage, and landscaping workers to take care of the leaves.
Can you please tell me how raising sidewalks (or driveways) can be addressed? It seems like I see a lot of trees being cut down because of it. It is very sad. Thank you so much for your channel!
I always wondered why they don't just re-do the sidewalk instead of cutting down a decades-old tree. With all of human engineering, can't we pave an accessible hill over top of the roots?
We should have more than just trees too. Bushes are great too, and when applicable, a place for native wildflowers
Imagine you have solar panels and you spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on them and then this guy comes around and Plants trees and within 15 to 20 years there's no more sunlight I would be furious
They also make drivers drive slower! It has something to do with feeling closed in, so people will drive more carefully than they would on a street with no trees!
Whiny people complaining about big trees are such a nuisance. As long as you don't have any limitations to the spot, the bigger the better
Large trees don't belong on sidewalks or near power lines or homes. Whenever there is high winds and rain these trees cause a lot of property damage.
Trees have been removed due to sewer line replacement where the tree is in the way. Might be a good idea to ask the building owner if the line was replaced recently before putting a tree over or near a line.
Why not try and plant trees that grow food where's they fit, imagine an entire neighborhood that just has free oranges growing on the sidewalk every year would that not be great
Do you have an eye toward purposely choosing keystone species?
Here , they used a plumb bob to get the live oaks directly under the power lines .
Paris is a beautiful city because it's full of trees. Keep planting.
Ooooh service berries. A little treat for humans as well. They will be messy once they are ripe tho
How would a crepe Myrtle do in this spot between the street and driveway?
Those lifted sidewalks are free bike jumps 😁
How did you get into being allowed to plant trees along city roads?
plant native wildgrasses and wildflowers
I was wondering how trees get water that planted like on 0:05 second? there are no open soil around
Big trees give streets that homey feel especially in the fall
Will they let you plant edible trees and shrubs?
The best neighborhoods in a city are the ones with a lot of street trees.
Plum trees are the best, free food
What city are you in Near Philly?
How does one get into this profession?
ur vids r the coolest ever, i love seeing the process of restoring our natural environments while in a more urban setting. its so inspirational to see what restoration looks like and how possible the process actually is, it rly gets me going to invest time into my garden :)))
Thanks so much, I appreciate that! :)
I have been honestly for a while thinking about getting a Sugar maple in early autumn for my backyard which will be planted behind my Tulip Poplar and sorta across from my Red maple,-->
also don't worry they're both young trees. This specific Sugar maple will be the Caddo ecotype and cultivar of it will be the fireflash cause well despite living in Indiana. I want said tree to well not experience the same problems as its more common northernly relatives due to well a climate that is becoming warmer and more volatile.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
I love big trees
Is there still a way to request a street tree in Philadelphia county?
Yes! Here's the link phsonline.org/programs/tree-programs/get-a-tree
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Sidewalks are far too wide in many places. Sidewalks should be narrower or even moved to accommodate larger trees whenever possible.
Wide streets are the problem not sidewalks
Well some areas do have much wider sidewalks than necessary. Like no amount of pedestrian traffic reasonable for the area could require so much concrete slabbage.
@@abydosianchulac2 I always notice the areas that don't even have sidewalks and force people to walk in the street.
There's areas in my city where there's no sidewalks too. There's a lot of disparity here. Skyscrapers literally a few miles from dirt roads the city refuses to maintain despite the fact they are in the middle of the city and bounded by city roads at each end. And other places in residential neighborhoods mixed with a few businesses on the same street where major roads go through--and there's no sidewalks along the roads in that whole area.
Another great idea for taxpayer money 😂.
Plant more fruit trees urban areas NOW to curve starvation in case of; store shortages and or government collapse🙃 it would be wise
Many of these native trees produce edible and nutritious fruit! Serviceberries and crabapples have edible berries, redbuds have edible flowers and immature seed pods, and even big oaks produce tons of edible acorns that are nutritious and versatile! I hope folks start to use these more too because they benefit wildlife in addition to humans. Traditional fruit trees often have a small ecological value, don’t do too well as street trees, and take a lot of effort to maintain.
Mmmm, crabapples are edible, but rarely palatable in my experience. Then again, I just discovered 9 mature apple?/crabapple? trees under the buckthorn and M.rose at my dad's house, so maybe I'll have my assumptions challenged soon.
@@abydosianchulac2there are a few delicious crab apples though I’ve never seen them planted as street trees Whitney crab is better than a honeycrisp imo
Fruit trees should be grown in people's yards or on community plots/gardens. And if we're worried about feeding people, we shouldn't limit fruit trees to natives, but whatever grows easiest without sprays and much maintenance. Street lined with fruit trees would have a lot of fallen fruit on the ground and sidewalk.
They really need to keep the trees to natural/ native trees that can survive in the area with the least amount of care. Fruit trees that you are suggesting, that provide ample fruits, are most time not natural. They have been crossed or genetically modified to produce larger fruits that are pleasing. Not many people today would want to eat fruit from natural/native fruit bearing trees.
And always in front of a stop sign
We can't plant within 25 feet of a stop sign in this municipality.
Bs. Plant fruit bearing trees.
I have a fruit tree on my property, and I can assure you, I have never gotten a single fruit from it- just a lot of happy birds, and their poop. Now, I don't mind, because the tree is older than I am and I don't like the fruit it gives- but I can't imagine anyone on this street would be faster than the hungry birds. ;)
there Are native fruit trees and they Do plant them, don't be so grouchy!
Many of them literally are. What are you on about?
And now the side walk is covered in dropped fruit, animal crap, and weird smells
Joined TH-cam 9 hours ago, belligerently says some off the wall ill-informed thing… almost like the only purpose of your online presence is to start controversy.
Bs. Plant fruit bearing trees.
The issue is with the fruit that people don't want or cannot reach, falling onto vehicles, roads and footpaths, which means that someone has to keep cleaning it all up. Nice idea though.