Episode 27. Richard Porter (@sniffpetrol) talks incessantly about his Land Rover Defender Heritage while Jonny Smith (@carpervert) politely smiles and nods.
I like the comments on G-wagen v. Defender. I never got the appeal of a G-wagen even though the new ones are loaded with new tech, they have lost some authenticity in the process. Looking around my local neighbourhood, G-wagens & Gucci seem to go together - Land Rovers & mountain bikes / skis / kayaks, depending on the season go together. My informal polling.
College Craft Project.. lmfao!! Seriously Rich, you need to waxoyl the inner chassis and bulkhead. Oh, and the inside of the doors too. I did my 2011 the day I bought her and shes still like new.
Apart from being a massive BL perv myself, there's just something really pleasing about seeing all the ancient switch gear. I'm not sure those switches are from the R6 Metro. They don't look quite right, but maybe the same mechanism under a new face. The hazard switch is from a facelift R6 (Rover 100), the earlier ones had a big blinking red button on the top of the steering column. I bloody love these final Defenders purely for the colour.
I have a Heritage 90 and a normal 110. Your right, it’s so cool. You either get them or you don’t and there’s nothing wrong if you don’t. No sane person would buy one. But values are rocketing ( not that I would sell either of mine) and the smiles per miles are off the planet. Great series of videos, love them all.
Funny that the colour of this should be Grasmere Green, as the last thing I watched before this video was a William Wordsworth documentary... road trip idea? Take it to the Lake District...
Customer of mine has one in his heated garage with his steam cars and vintage Bentleys. From memory it still has only delivery miles! Love one but not the Transit engine/gearbox!
The wolf’s were properly quick, the army had a solution to stop squaddies speeding, they would put a bolt through the throttle pedal to stop it going all the way to the floor, guess what the first thing we did was when getting in it?
Excellent video. I got to see the production line a few days before they stopped making them. Unfortunately most of the ones being made at that point were in a bling spec.
I bloody love Defenders. With regard to everything falling off, part of the PDI for Def's in my local Landie dealer was to whip the door cards of to make sure the window regulator and glass clamp bolts had been done up. Apparently got fed up of 2 week old Def's coming back in the the glass either stuck or broken in the bottom of the doors. 😂 They used to turn up with bolts loose etc. The way they were designed and built was partly their demise, it was too fiddly and human intensive.
Love it, love it, love it!! I so miss my Defender. Jonny you so need to electrify a Defender or a Series!! Make it Uber quick please......please! Oh and let me test drive it 😬😬😬
I've always thought that electric made great sense for an off-roader, because you get massive torque at 0 RPM. I guess range is still the issue though, as part of the appeal of a landy is the feeling that you could just hop in, and drive it across the Sahara if you felt like it, and that's not as easy with an electric vehicle.
Tom Range is getting better all the time as batteries get denser and new tech appears. Solid state batteries offer such a giant leap. 100 mile EV doing 1000 Miles with a pack of the same physical size. We are living in exciting times right now. Seismic changes in the way we move transport around. I’ve just watch a video of a test flight in a fully electric plane...the future today 😬
If you leave your Xmas decorations up all year this is the car for you. Its the Aga stove of British cars isn't it. Useful for three things you never do.
Love these vids. Regarding the switches, I used to work for the manufacturer. The window lift are MGF and those either side of the hazard are early Freelander. The rest are all JLR parts bin.
True, but the MGF and the Freelander, being parts bin specials themselves, took them from existing BL/ARG/Rover Group stuff like the 88.5MY Montego and R6 Metro.
Did they ever learn how to put these together properly before stopping making them? My parents bought a green V8 110 county new back in 1983, it broke down on the way home from the dealer, it leaked like a sieve, and the doors would regularly pop open on the motorway. They went Japanese after the LR and never looked back.
On the mis-alignment, stand in front and look at the square headlight surrounds, one side is level, other is few degrees tilted … "they're all like that sir!" … go find some of Johnathon Wards horror stories on laser-scanning D90/D110's for Icon re-manufactured versions, hilarious how 50yrs of hand-production/ancient tooling left signs of it everywhere. Love them all to bits ;)
Quick question, is that whirring tyre noise ? I have Goodyear wranglers on my 2012 puma and I get a very pronounced warble whine noise between 30-65mph.
I really do think there is a gap in the market for used defenders to be refurbished and improved (better bushes and softer G wagon style bumpstops) as long as they are not overpriced.
I love that defender owners have a wave too. Also I know how you feel with the brutish drive. (granted mines newer) I have an 09 jeep Jk Rubicon, yes it's a bumpy and wiggly, the steering is loose, and there's more road noise. Not to mention bad gas mileage. But I love every bit of it. Especially with no doors or top, it really makes me feel like my jeeps in her element and unique. I do really want to drive and maybe own a defender 110, also a Willy's mb or early cj.
Another good vid. You guys are right - I would not keep chickens in one down here in Australia without aircon thesedays. I was a bit younger and rather silly when I had the old S3 and thought aircon was for puffs back then......
As a Series 3 Land-Rover Driver, I wouldn't wave to somebody in a new defender. You're not experiencing major discomfort, your ride's not this harsh, Your engine's not this noisy, Your steering's not this heavy, You've got fancy smancy painted wheel arches! You can't be in our club!
a couple of amateur drivers and their opinions.... (yawn) thanks for fast forward. I bought mine same 3-door model in 1973. Presently, I drive a 2016 Disco 4 HSE Lux. (I mellowed out in my old age)
"and then the butter started melting off" 😂😂😂
Brilliant. Brought back memories of being thrown around in the back of a 110 as a child.
Defenders are brilliant, the perfect vehicle for where I live. Would love to own one..
Is there anything better in life than chatting shit with a mate?
I'll have to take your word for that SRM.
I like the comments on G-wagen v. Defender. I never got the appeal of a G-wagen even though the new ones are loaded with new tech, they have lost some authenticity in the process.
Looking around my local neighbourhood, G-wagens & Gucci seem to go together - Land Rovers & mountain bikes / skis / kayaks, depending on the season go together. My informal polling.
@@PL-fh8cz I own a defender 90 and carry my mountain bike on the back. hahaha your informal polling is rather accurate.
I love my defender 90 puma! The rattles the terrible ride the horrid heaters it’s great! Big wave to defender fam 😂
I love the A/C in my Defender. But I do live in Australia and would die without it. They are an imperfect car but I do love my Defender 90.
College Craft Project.. lmfao!! Seriously Rich, you need to waxoyl the inner chassis and bulkhead. Oh, and the inside of the doors too. I did my 2011 the day I bought her and shes still like new.
Oh yes. Had it done as soon as I got it. Nothing like finishing the jobs the factory couldn't be bothered to do. R
Nice tee shirt Jonny. I'm wondering how many people had to google it to see what it was. My first car was an Avenger, not a Tiger obv!!
I live in the USA and have a Jeep Wrangler and love and hate it in the same way you love/ hate the defender. Keep up the great work.
Ckeith Martin America is also a right-wing fascist islamaphobic xenophobic racist shithole, just like Britain.
@@paddymuppy well maybe if you only visited like one part of alabama that might be true
Avenger Tiger, cool T Shirt Jonny
Yet another Smith and Sniff to end the week...
What do you think of the new one? Not much point of it, I think and it’s hugely expensive.
I'd have one
LR must be laughing all the way to the bank after parting so many fools from their money!
Wait till the gearbox falls out. These cars are complete rubbish.
Richard was sold on the wotsits very quick.
Essential vehicle for Londoners to travel to their second homes in Rock, Cornwall because the roads here aren't surfaced.
"I think I got a good one"
Apart from being a massive BL perv myself, there's just something really pleasing about seeing all the ancient switch gear.
I'm not sure those switches are from the R6 Metro. They don't look quite right, but maybe the same mechanism under a new face. The hazard switch is from a facelift R6 (Rover 100), the earlier ones had a big blinking red button on the top of the steering column.
I bloody love these final Defenders purely for the colour.
Do you know what this paint color is called?
Imagine seeing you here Mr Westby
@@chancywww Grasmere Green.
How has this channel not blown up? Great content and awesome, genuine conversation between two friends.
S NB Because most people have lives and have better thing to do.
SRM Solar radiation management Geoengineering Right, especially when these folks buy a 4x4 to look “cool” Defenders make shitty road cars
SRM Solar radiation management Geoengineering unlike you
I have a Heritage 90 and a normal 110. Your right, it’s so cool. You either get them or you don’t and there’s nothing wrong if you don’t. No sane person would buy one. But values are rocketing ( not that I would sell either of mine) and the smiles per miles are off the planet. Great series of videos, love them all.
I drive a 110 as a daily driver. It never fails to cheer me up when I get in and turn the key. Told my wife I'll sell her before I sell the car.
How much are/were they over there?
Funny that the colour of this should be Grasmere Green, as the last thing I watched before this video was a William Wordsworth documentary... road trip idea? Take it to the Lake District...
Customer of mine has one in his heated garage with his steam cars and vintage Bentleys. From memory it still has only delivery miles! Love one but not the Transit engine/gearbox!
I love his BL geekiness.
A/C should be in every car as you can use it for hot and cold 🤷♂️
The wolf’s were properly quick, the army had a solution to stop squaddies speeding, they would put a bolt through the throttle pedal to stop it going all the way to the floor, guess what the first thing we did was when getting in it?
Excellent video. I got to see the production line a few days before they stopped making them. Unfortunately most of the ones being made at that point were in a bling spec.
I like Richard but I bet he lives in Crouch End to think Land Rovers are in anyway cool outside their original purpose.
I bloody love Defenders. With regard to everything falling off, part of the PDI for Def's in my local Landie dealer was to whip the door cards of to make sure the window regulator and glass clamp bolts had been done up. Apparently got fed up of 2 week old Def's coming back in the the glass either stuck or broken in the bottom of the doors. 😂 They used to turn up with bolts loose etc. The way they were designed and built was partly their demise, it was too fiddly and human intensive.
Love it, love it, love it!! I so miss my Defender. Jonny you so need to electrify a Defender or a Series!! Make it Uber quick please......please! Oh and let me test drive it 😬😬😬
I've always thought that electric made great sense for an off-roader, because you get massive torque at 0 RPM.
I guess range is still the issue though, as part of the appeal of a landy is the feeling that you could just hop in, and drive it across the Sahara if you felt like it, and that's not as easy with an electric vehicle.
Tom Range is getting better all the time as batteries get denser and new tech appears. Solid state batteries offer such a giant leap. 100 mile EV doing 1000 Miles with a pack of the same physical size. We are living in exciting times right now. Seismic changes in the way we move transport around. I’ve just watch a video of a test flight in a fully electric plane...the future today 😬
go talk to richard at electric classic cars
Shame they didn’t put the heritage dash, windows, door handles, air vents and ash tray in the heritage edition
If you leave your Xmas decorations up all year this is the car for you. Its the Aga stove of British cars isn't it. Useful for three things you never do.
So, so good. I didn't even watch this at 2x speed, THAT'S how good ti was. Absolutely fantastic video, could spend a week watching shit like this.
These are such a joy to watch. Though maybe I'm just becoming an old fart who finds these things interesting.
What did you pay for all that technology?
I'll give you some cheesy whatsits mate😂😂😂nice one.
Love these vids. Regarding the switches, I used to work for the manufacturer. The window lift are MGF and those either side of the hazard are early Freelander. The rest are all JLR parts bin.
True, but the MGF and the Freelander, being parts bin specials themselves, took them from existing BL/ARG/Rover Group stuff like the 88.5MY Montego and R6 Metro.
Like a classic band their last concert was the start of last concerts.
I didn't know watching a sparetire can be this enjoyable, thanks lads!
The centre dashboard console has a look of Wall-E about it
Did they ever learn how to put these together properly before stopping making them? My parents bought a green V8 110 county new back in 1983, it broke down on the way home from the dealer, it leaked like a sieve, and the doors would regularly pop open on the motorway. They went Japanese after the LR and never looked back.
On the mis-alignment, stand in front and look at the square headlight surrounds, one side is level, other is few degrees tilted … "they're all like that sir!" … go find some of Johnathon Wards horror stories on laser-scanning D90/D110's for Icon re-manufactured versions, hilarious how 50yrs of hand-production/ancient tooling left signs of it everywhere. Love them all to bits ;)
Quick question, is that whirring tyre noise ? I have Goodyear wranglers on my 2012 puma and I get a very pronounced warble whine noise between 30-65mph.
I really do think there is a gap in the market for used defenders to be refurbished and improved (better bushes and softer G wagon style bumpstops) as long as they are not overpriced.
I love that defender owners have a wave too. Also I know how you feel with the brutish drive. (granted mines newer) I have an 09 jeep Jk Rubicon, yes it's a bumpy and wiggly, the steering is loose, and there's more road noise. Not to mention bad gas mileage. But I love every bit of it. Especially with no doors or top, it really makes me feel like my jeeps in her element and unique. I do really want to drive and maybe own a defender 110, also a Willy's mb or early cj.
I would buy that Defender over the new one anytime, any day!👌🥰👍
Another good vid. You guys are right - I would not keep chickens in one down here in Australia without aircon thesedays. I was a bit younger and rather silly when I had the old S3 and thought aircon was for puffs back then......
Looking forward to Jonny getting his licence!
The fashion accessory Land Rover for people who bemoan Land Rover catering too much to the fashion accessory market.
I drive a td5 110, and can confirm you've summed everything about the car perfectly
Really enjoyed. However, would have been lovely to have mentioned the off road capability!
Check out Perentie defender guys my daily :) love the heritage edition very nice indeed.
surprisingly I've actually seen a few of these on the road (either it's a weird coincidence or they're replicas)
I had an old series III for years. In 2011 I drove a brand new defender and it felt like a Rolls Royce.
Jesus, all those lousy military defenders i drove are actually worth money?
love the retro tri pod :D
Love a Defender particularly with TD5
Same indicator stalks as my Reliant Robin haha
What is this paint color called?
Nite watches with NATO serial numbers
Fantastic! Perfect car review. Thank you.
This is the best youtube channel at the moment. Great video!
I wish I could have one ......
Looks like a 70's Velbon tripod strapped in the back..
Andrew Higgins you're right, it does. Well, I'm not sure of the vintage of the one we have somewhere but it's at least 35.
I have that same tripod.
my dream car
Just fantastic.
Brilliant
Great....Thanks Guys
As a Series 3 Land-Rover Driver, I wouldn't wave to somebody in a new defender. You're not experiencing major discomfort, your ride's not this harsh, Your engine's not this noisy, Your steering's not this heavy, You've got fancy smancy painted wheel arches! You can't be in our club!
Fair enough. R
Smith and Sniff
Well, not really. If you wave at me, I'll wave back.
Why is Richard always driving so fast, especially in a vehicle like this...
Tragic. Is your testosterone so low, you feel compelled to grow ridiculous face bushes? :/
a couple of amateur drivers and their opinions.... (yawn) thanks for fast forward. I bought mine same 3-door model in 1973. Presently, I drive a 2016 Disco 4 HSE Lux. (I mellowed out in my old age)